I too have the 2X model in my personal PC. I also game with a headset and agree that I can't hear any noise. Good setup!🤝🙂 Thank you for checking out my video.
I went with the 2x, mainly because it was on sale for $80 less than the 3x. I don't hear it at all, but my case is under my desk, but even if I could, I almost always play with a headset on anyway
I have both 3X and 2X, and my experience with a very small portable computer case got hotter with the 3X, because the 3X just filled up the case space that restricts the air circulation from the other fans inside the case. It is all about air flow and air circulation.
Spend an extra 200 dollars just to get the temperature 8 degrees Celsius lower and the fan speed reduced by 4000 rpm while the performance remains unchanged, the warranty is the same, I bought 2 fans, thank you
8 degrees lower while being much more quiet for $20 is no joke. You could probably lower the fan curve to match the temps of the x2 fan model while being dead silent at like 1000-1200 rpm
Something i noticed about the 2X, the fins are parallel to the card, so it vents out the back. The 3X has the same fin design as the 4080/4090s, and it vents hot air into the case. This makes the 2X a much better option for SFF builds as it won’t heat up the case as much
Depends. Not everyone, and not everytimes. I play a lot (too much) and I like sometimes to put off the headset for a period. Like Star Citizen long flights or waiting time. There are also games with extremely important sounds like Tarkov, you want no background noise at all if possible, despite the headset (it's never 100%)
Thank you! I must say I didn’t really expect much differences. If your case would fit an Ventura 3 is definitely worth it. Sadly my case only fits an Ventura 2 however I must also say, I rarely hear my gpu fans. Question first you mentioned an I7 and later an I5, what do you run?
Personal PC = i7 14700KF. But I've built the i5 14400 PC to test more budget-friendly GPU options such as RTX 4060 and RX 7600, etc on it. I believe, that would convey a more real-life experience to those who are looking for information about these GPUs before they build a PC. I'm not happy with how popular TH-camrs test these GPUs paired with the best performing CPUs (7800X3D/14900K) that no sane person would use in their actual budget PC build. Hopefully, I'll be able to get my hands on said GPUs soon.🙂 No luck with that just yet tho.
hey we have the same name :O yeah here in brazil 1 dollar = 5,50 Reais lol and the triple fan it's like 500 reais more expensive (90 dollars) I don't think it's worth it
I just got a prebuilt with the 2 fan version and I must say even with a little coil whine (at least I think that’s what it is) and fan noise I am happy with the upgrade from using my laptop with a 6 gb 3060 immeasurably. My laptop fans were so loud that even the loudest this rig gets seems quiet to me lol. Plus I usually use headphones anyway
Experiencing such a contrast can be powerful. I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying your new PC.🙂 I'm using the Ventus 2X in my daily driver PC as well. It's a fine card.
Great video, thanks)) In your opinion, what is the quietest card in this series?) Could you recommend this? The system unit is on the table, noise is important.
Gaming x slim is pretty quiet. But even the Ventus 3x was fine for me. But I didn’t try it during the hot months of summer. So, it might be a bit less quieter than when I experienced it before making this video.
Beautiful video. I just wanted to know if you know the difference between the Ventus 3x and the Ventus 3x version E. On the site, the comparison presents no differences. Thanks.
The 2x is great for a portable experience with an itx build. If the performance isn't affected between their sizes, then the lunchbox case is very much doable. Have the gpu on top with a mesh case to don't have heat problems because of blocked off flow from a glass enclosure, and you'll be fine
Your videos are great 👍 I have a question may I know GeForce RTX™ 4070 VENTUS 3X 12G OC is better or zotac gaming geforce rtx 4070 super trinity black edition 12gb gddr6x is better ?
Thanks!🤝🙂 Unfortunately, I've never experienced the Zotac card. So, can't say anything good or bad about it. What I can say is that the Ventus 3X is a good card. I wouldn't mind owning it.
In most games - no. I wouldn't worry about it. Enjoy playing games on your new GPU🫡 Rare examples are poorly optimised games such as Dragon's Dogma 2 when you are in the city. I haven't seen a single CPU that can smoothly run that games in that scenario. I have i5 14400 and i7 14700KF. While the 14700KF provides a smoother experience, it is still far from normal. In contrast, the i5 is stuttering like crazy in the same scenario. As long as you don't play games like that then you'll be fine.
Thanks i see now whats the problem!! Mine ventus 2x rtx 4060 ti while gaming is always 80c temperature!! 8GB Version, but when i put gpu power 62 its always 69 - 74 temperature!! MUST BE PROBLEM in ventus 2x!! , so guys dont buy ventus 2x if you want your gpu to live longer.
Can't say that I do. But when I tested Warzone for my big 4070 SUPER review I didn't notice any stutters - th-cam.com/video/g3cVRPDGtyo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uk6l8PvZcAhCctE5&t=3099 I wish you a wonderful weekend as well!🤝 Thanks for watching my videos. I appreciate it🙂
I bought the Ventus 2x on the 14th May, sound does not bother me because most of the time I am wearing headphones while gaming or general computing. What did upset me and got me a bit worried was my Ventus 2x blew up last Sunday the 26th of May. I was playing a game on 4k, Ghost of Tsushima about 5 mins in and there was a puff sound and smoke came out of the side of the card and luckily my PC shut down. I had played the game for 45mins on the Friday with no problems. I removed the card immediately and it did not feel hot I then installed one of my old cards (GTX970) to see if the machine would boot up ok which it did. The dealer who sold me the card tested the card and it smoked for them too so they replaced the card with a new one. No problems with the new card up to now, was not sure if I should have asked for a different manufactorer,. I have Afterburner running now so I can keep a eye on the temps....lol a frightening experience even for a old guy like me.
That is very unfortunate. I'm happy to hear that you got a replacement so swiftly. There's always a chance to get a defective unit. No matter the manufacturer. I wouldn't worry about watching the temperature because that problem didn't happen because of overheating. It was an electrical problem. You can't catch it by watching the temps🙂 Luckily, modern power supplies come with all sorts of protections. That's why I thank that PSU is the most important part of PC. It can prevent fires and damage to other components by cutting power when required.
Thanks for your reply, I agree about psu’s. My computer had a Corsair M650 w psu, after the problem with the card and reading some reviews I have upgraded my psu to a Corsair RM850x so I have some overhead.
@@kamipls6790fair point. 20 bucks is 20 bucks after all 😀 By the way, the Ventus 3X doesn’t need support even though it’s long because it is still a relatively lightweight card. No sagging.
Well I use always a very primitive but highly effective noisblocker that already existed 2000 BC, I drill a hole in a wall and place the PC in an other room... where it can also render at night... That brings me to my actual question: I woudl prefer the smaller Card in my case, noise does not care at all, BUT I will render a lot - meaning it will sometimes run 3-4 months straigt.... Noiselevel doesn't matter. If I am correct, I can simply go with the smaller card and with fans spinning fast it will just stay as cold and live as long? Or would you think the 3X will provide more longlivety? I will probabaly use it 4-6 years until I upgrade...
A lot of folks say these Ventus underperform other GPU cards. In your experience, is this the case? Or did you notice results in line with other 4070 Supers?
Well it's kinda true, tou shouldn't buy the chipset gpu usually im buying same card for 125 $ more expensive for better cooling solution and being quiet
I have 4080 Super, and I undervolted it to 230-240watt (0.9V) instead of 320watt (3 coolers). My fans work on 35% (1325 rpm) with 100% gpu usage, temperature is less than 67C. And it's only 2-4% less FPS in games with undervolt. I like silence.:) I suppose that undervolt can make this dual-cooler videocard less loud than 3-cooler in stock. I used undervolt for 4070 too. It worked on 30% of rpm with 160watt (it had 3 coolers).
just paired 4070 super/7800x3d. its been a beast. a friend of mine wants to get a 4070 super but he has a i7 12700k. Do you think he will have bottlenecking issues?
Depends on what games your friend plays. In graphically demanding games the 12700K will do just fine. In competitive with lower graphics settings you may start feeling that the CPU may be holding you back. Not by much tho. So I'd say - go for it!👍
In 720p or 1080p, if you play >300 FPS, there are small bottleneck issues. If you play 1440p, you can go with most cpus >$200 and if you play 4k, even an i5 12600 KF for $160 is good enough. If you like eye candy, raytracing, $200 more for the GPU is a lot better than buying a better CPU.
Operating at 95-100+ C is pretty normal for silicon-based chips. The product will become obsolete way before you'll see any meaningful degradation because of temperature. Irresponsible use of voltage on the other hand is more important than temperature as was proven by Intel's latest issues plaguing some top-tier 13th and 14th gen CPU units.
I have 3 fan ventus 4080s. I have set the curve for fans manually to run it at nearly 2500+ rpm above 55 degree Celsius temps. So the temp of my card hovers around 50-58 degress on load. Yes that much rpm makes signifant noise, but I would rather have a cooler gpu than noise. And since mostly I play with headphones on so hardly ever I could hear it during gaming sessions.
My MSI Mech OC 5700 XT with its Torx 3.0 fans was obnoxiously loud and would always spin up to 100% to get the same temps (73C while drawing 200W) at the same room temp and with good case airflow. The heatsink looks exactly the same so I guess Torx 4.0 fans are just that much better
I've not had a chance to experience it. But if I remember correctly, Hardware Unboxed tested it and it was good. Check their TH-cam channel to make sure that I'm not wrong.
TL;DR : if your computer case can fit it, there is no reason at all to not go for 3X right ? The more the component can cool, better it is anyway, disregarding noise. Less heat is always better. The price difference is irrelevant IMO. The card is already too expensive but it's common sadly now.
Should i apply that card holder MSI gives for 3x or its fine without it because its slim version? This thing is pretty big and need to remove some case for it.
I didn't have any holder with my Ventus 3X. To me it's feels fine without additional support because the card is not that heavy. I haven't seen any bending or GPU sagging. Also, if you don't like big brackets then you can get another types of GPU support that are much more compact. Just search for "GPU support" on a large online retailer of your choice.
No, my units were fine. However, based on my extensive experience with countless graphics cards from different manufacturers, I can confidently say that any model has the potential to develop coil whine. It's a common occurrence; you could have 100 identical cards, and one of them might have this issue.
I ordered the 2X because the 3X was not available at BHPhoto. Since I will use it for AI, I will be dialing the power back to about 70-80% so probably not going to have any heat issues. Thanks for the video. Very good information.
There's no heat issues even with out of the box settings. It's just a little bit more noisy. That's all. I'm sure you'll have a good time with yours. Enjoy!😉
I bought the PNY 4070 super VERTO Dual Fan, but am concerned after learning recently about the durability issues with GeForce. I'm wondering whether to buy another triple fan model or the RX7800XT triple fan model. In my country, PNY products come with a three-year warranty, so if they break within that period, they can be airlifted to the US for repair or replacement, but I feel like if I buy the Hellhound 7800XT, which has better cooling performance, I can play safely for five years. I think it's more important to have a triple fan, even if it has slightly lower performance, than to have a 4070 super. Since I haven't even unboxed the PNY Dual yet, I can buy the Hellhound 7800XT without any loss.
@@theivadim I think it depends on the environment and how you use it, but many people have reported that the grease and thermal pads inside their graphic boards are deteriorating faster than expected. A board that can no longer handle the heat will have hot spots exceeding 100 degrees within minutes. If the 4000 generation breaks within a year of purchase, it is assumed that poor processing and poor quality materials during manufacturing were the cause. I haven't decided which board I will use yet, but whatever I use, I plan to use it while blowing air from the bottom of the case towards the board.
I wouldn't worry about that if you plan on using your PC in normal conditions like 18-27C ambient room temperature. Any Ventus card will do fine. I still prefer the 3X version🙂
great video, I've always wanted to know difference, but certainly 3x is worth the extra money. Less rpm means less noise, and less wear and tear for the fans, resulting in a longer duration components for the card.
Are you referring to the one with glass front? It's called CyberPower Prism. I don't think you can get it on its own. It comes as part of the CyberPower prebuilt PC.
I've been looking for the name of my CASE PC for a while. And it’s the first time I’ve seen the same CASE PC as mine! Could you give me the brand and model please? (in case I break the window, I want to be able to order it but I don't know the name of the PC case) thanks in advance.
Are you asking about the one in the second half of the video? Fish tank style? It came as part of Cyberpower pre-built PC. I was trying to find it as well but couldn't. Looks like some kind of Cyberpower exclusive case.
I'm glad you're enjoying my content. TLDR: get 3X if you want a very quiet GPU. But if other fans in your PC are not silent then saving some money by going with the 2X version is a good choice. It's not that loud. I'm pretty comfortable with the 2X noise level. I have it in my personal PC.
The fin-stack's are also running Horizontal on the 2X (which could conflict with front intake fans depending on space, but doesn't blow hot air down onto your Motherboard) Vertical fin-stack on the 3x (my 3080TI has this type & no issues with front fan intake but does try to cook your Motherboard so I mounted mine on a riser Vertical mount) 👍👍
How come a GPU that only pulls 200W is generating so much heat... Damn. 76ºc GPU and 86ºc Hotspot... with 2000 RPM! I have a RX 7800XT that pulls 280W (Sapphire Pulse, also 2-fan model) and at that wattage, my fan curve gets to about 1500-1600RPM with 60ºc on GPU and 80ºc on Hotspot, and the best thing is that it's barely audible.
What I need to know is how thermally efficient is the 2 fan model and how much noisier is it with the fans running if it gets hot? I think the 2 fan model is going to be better as its smaller and more compact does not use as much power and can fit in smaller cases the 3 fan GPU's now are getting stupid in size and weight.
I didn't check. Had to return the 3X already, so can't satisfy your curiosity. They didn't look different tho. Even if they were, it wan't drastic. Otherwise I would've noticed for sure.
It turns out that varies from connector to connector. I had an opportunity to put this GPU into other PCs with other PSUs and cables and sometimes it's hard to unplug it, sometimes it's easy.
does the 2X have rgb or no? I can't figure it out from the video, sometimes I looks like it does and then sometimes like it doesn't. Also can't find it anywhere on any website hahah
Thanks for the review. Even if it was a 50 dollar difference i would still get the 3 Fan GPU. I want good cooling meaning fans spin less and more silence
8 degree C difference is not nothing too in terms of making your room hot. The extra bucks of the 3 fan will definitely pay itself in not having to lower your AC temperature to compensate.
That's not how energy transfer works. Your PC will still dump the same amount of heat (energy) into your room no matter how many fans you have on your GPU. 200W is still 200W no matter how many fans you use to disperse it.
I'd imagine the choice is similar to the cards you see in this video. Want quieter operation - then go for 3-fan model. Don't mind a little bit of noise then 2-fan will do fine.
Technically, it's true because both cards utilise the same fan. 2-fan card runs its fans faster, which means that they will break sooner if the quality and environment conditions are exactly the same. However, in normal use over a normal lifespan I don't think you'll experience any difference. You'll most likely upgrade to a new GPU well before anything breaks.
@@theivadim tanks bro for your responding. If you can help me i would be very tankful. I want to use it for gaming in 2k resolution and my brother want to use it for video editing and rending. In my country iran there is a huge gap between 2x and 3x . Around 80 dollars difference. 80 dollars in my country means 20 days of working for 8 hours a day. For my usage which one do you recommend to buy? I wnat to buy the cheaper but i know that i can’t replace it to newer one for long time because of irans currency.
I don't think the 3x version is worth it over 2x if the price difference is that high. 20-30 dollars then maybe I'd say go for 3x. But not for 80. I think you'll be happy with the 2x version.
@@nixon-a1 Watch some benchmarking videos on youtube. 3060 is too weak to utilize 12GB vram. Whenever it utilize more than 8GB vram the frametime graph become is so much unstable that it almost unplayable. Do some research on internet and see with your own eye.
If there was Power color 4070 super Hellhound it would be high on my shoping list, i know they are AMD only. My 7800xt was like 30 euros more than ref and it works dead silent on 55/70c.. I dont like entry 4070/super models at all, they look to cheap for that price. Like GPUs from two tiers bellow. Its just my opinion.
They are not only looking cheap , they are indeed cheap , and if you want a good looking one with a good built quality you usually have to pay 100-150$ extra to get one.
I'm seriously thinking about selling my unopened PNY 4070s dual and buying an rx7800xt Hellhound. The cooling performance of Power color's triple fan model is extraordinary. I would have bought Hellhound if PNY didn't have a special sale...
Greetings and good evening. I switched from 4060 graphics card to MSI Ventus 4070 super 2x graphics card. I saw 83 degrees in the furmark test. I know it is a series that gets hot. I don't think the air flow of my case is that good. The city I'm in is Denizli, it's hot, it's a roadside house, the heat of the road hits the room, I don't have air conditioning, so it's very hot, there's only a fan. There are no drops or anything, it plays stable, but it came to my mind and I wanted to ask, does anyone have an idea to do something like this? My previous card had a 4060 ventus 2x and it did not exceed 71 degrees. Good evening.
Well I use a headset so cant hear them anyway so noise is not a problem, and should never be for anybody that uses a headset which now a days are everybody. So then it should come down to performance, temperature and what are the differences if you choose to OC your gpu with msi's afterburner which you can use for any card.
Logically there’s no reason for 3 fan models to exist since the 9 series they started using those for better cooling years ago when gpu got hotter since like the 9 series was the last time a 3 fan card made any real difference in being cooler by a good amount Not only does 3 fans cost more their bigger and need a bigger case It’s just better to pay less and get a smaller one on top a bigger one can have slag easier than a smaller 2 fan cause of the weight
Well .. I had the 4070 TI Super Ventus 2x with a coil whine. Brand new, sent it back to MSI for repair, but instead, they replaced it with the 3x version. Now it won't fit in my SFF case Mechani Master S24 .. what a bunch of idiots
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Timestamp to compare the noise direct: 2x fans 6:31 vs 3x fans 7:15
I'm Running the 2x currently and it's a very decent card. It is small and the noise is not a problem for me as I game with a headset. Nice video.
I too have the 2X model in my personal PC. I also game with a headset and agree that I can't hear any noise. Good setup!🤝🙂 Thank you for checking out my video.
@@theivadim I also have a nice OC on this card of +150 on the core and +1000 memory, which is also nice :)
I went with the 2x, mainly because it was on sale for $80 less than the 3x. I don't hear it at all, but my case is under my desk, but even if I could, I almost always play with a headset on anyway
how is the cooling performance?
@@realracing3specter295 mines fine .
Noise-cancelling in top range headphones should make it a non-issue now. I'm waiting for my 2-fan RTX 3060 and wondering if I made the right choice.
@@DaveThompsonfairlife4all2 fans more than fine for a 3060 just make sure the heatsink is good quality and your not getting the really small version
@@WaterDuckzz What is the really small version and why? It can only be a certain size with 2 fans.
I have both 3X and 2X, and my experience with a very small portable computer case got hotter with the 3X, because the 3X just filled up the case space that restricts the air circulation from the other fans inside the case. It is all about air flow and air circulation.
Good point👍. A good balance is necessary.
Indeed. Also, the more fans, the more chances of one going bad/noisy.
I undervolt my 4070 ventus 2X to 2805Mhz 0.975V. Now it’s as silent as 3X with similar performance
Spend an extra 200 dollars just to get the temperature 8 degrees Celsius lower and the fan speed reduced by 4000 rpm while the performance remains unchanged, the warranty is the same, I bought 2 fans, thank you
How's that going? No throttling?
not 200 bro 20 who is your english teacher
8 degrees lower while being much more quiet for $20 is no joke. You could probably lower the fan curve to match the temps of the x2 fan model while being dead silent at like 1000-1200 rpm
I'm sold on the 3X. It will make for a quieter and cooler upgrade from my current MSI RTX 2070 Super Ventus 2X. Thanks.
Something i noticed about the 2X, the fins are parallel to the card, so it vents out the back. The 3X has the same fin design as the 4080/4090s, and it vents hot air into the case. This makes the 2X a much better option for SFF builds as it won’t heat up the case as much
Is there much difference between the 4060Ti and the 4070Ti. What is it?
Worth $20 to run 10 degrees cooler? I’d say so.
everyone gaming with noise cancelling phones: YEAH THAT CARD IS REALLY WORTH MORE BECAUSE I CANT HEAR IT
Depends. Not everyone, and not everytimes. I play a lot (too much) and I like sometimes to put off the headset for a period. Like Star Citizen long flights or waiting time. There are also games with extremely important sounds like Tarkov, you want no background noise at all if possible, despite the headset (it's never 100%)
Some people also have their set up in their bedrooms (me) and have to take our partners in consideration
I bought the 2X because the 3X won't fit in my case.
That's one of the reasons to keep making various sized GPUs.🙂 Enjoy it!
I plan to do the same haha
It's good card bro? Hotspot is not very hot?
Probably should’ve saved an extra 100 bucks and gotten a new case with great airflow. New titles even at medium settings are making GPUs run hot.
how about the price sir 3 fans vs 2 fans price it same???
Got the Ventus 2X on a temporary deal for 700€ while the 3X was still close to 900€ it was an easy choice.
Very good card. I own the 3x model. Highly recommend. Great performance for the price
Thanks for sharing
Very helpful video.Thanks for making it.I'm gonna get the 2 fans one probably,cuz it's smaller and i found it cheaper on OLX site.Great video really.
Glad I could help. Enjoy your new GPU🙂.
That's why I bought mine, more room in my case for cooling.
Very nice edit well done 👍
Thanks ✌️I appreciate you checking out my video.🙂
Thank you! I must say I didn’t really expect much differences. If your case would fit an Ventura 3 is definitely worth it. Sadly my case only fits an Ventura 2 however I must also say, I rarely hear my gpu fans. Question first you mentioned an I7 and later an I5, what do you run?
Personal PC = i7 14700KF. But I've built the i5 14400 PC to test more budget-friendly GPU options such as RTX 4060 and RX 7600, etc on it. I believe, that would convey a more real-life experience to those who are looking for information about these GPUs before they build a PC. I'm not happy with how popular TH-camrs test these GPUs paired with the best performing CPUs (7800X3D/14900K) that no sane person would use in their actual budget PC build. Hopefully, I'll be able to get my hands on said GPUs soon.🙂 No luck with that just yet tho.
thx :D. im going with the 2x cause i want to keep my build smoll. verry helpful vid
Glad I could help! 2X is decent👍 Enjoy your build!🙂
smol, not smoll. learn how to spell
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@@uhohwhy bro said political 💀
Thank you very much for this video !!
You are welcome! Thank you for watching and liking it🤝🙂
Do a PCB breakdown, overclocking test and temperatures comparison.
I'd love to. But I can't open the Ventus 3X as it is not mine and has to be returned tomorrow. No more videos featuring it. For now.
In Hong Kong, 4070 super ventus 3x is selling at HKD$5270 while asus tuf 4070 super is selling at HKD$5800 in the same shop. 1USD = 7.8 HKD
who cares ; asus are always more expensive
hey we have the same name :O yeah here in brazil 1 dollar = 5,50 Reais lol
and the triple fan it's like 500 reais more expensive (90 dollars) I don't think it's worth it
gracias por el video!, ahora ya sé que iré por el 3x
Super super helpful, thank you so much ❤
So glad!
I just got a prebuilt with the 2 fan version and I must say even with a little coil whine (at least I think that’s what it is) and fan noise I am happy with the upgrade from using my laptop with a 6 gb 3060 immeasurably. My laptop fans were so loud that even the loudest this rig gets seems quiet to me lol. Plus I usually use headphones anyway
Experiencing such a contrast can be powerful. I'm glad to hear that you're enjoying your new PC.🙂 I'm using the Ventus 2X in my daily driver PC as well. It's a fine card.
Excellent video SIr but what application you have used for monitoring these tempratures?
CapFrameX
Great video, thank you! This was everything I wanted to know!
Glad it was helpful!
Brother, if you think THAT'S loud... xD a friend of mine plays next to a literal jet engine.
yeah I heard nothing lol
you buy the two fans if you plan to watercool. you dont buy the 3x fan because your gonna be stripping the heatsink off.
Very nice video sir, exactly what I was looking for.
Glad it helped
Must be some great binning to get absolutely identical performance lol
My case only allows for 2 fans but I went with galax.
Great video, thanks))
In your opinion, what is the quietest card in this series?) Could you recommend this? The system unit is on the table, noise is important.
Gaming x slim is pretty quiet. But even the Ventus 3x was fine for me. But I didn’t try it during the hot months of summer. So, it might be a bit less quieter than when I experienced it before making this video.
Beautiful video.
I just wanted to know if you know the difference between the Ventus 3x and the Ventus 3x version E.
On the site, the comparison presents no differences.
Thanks.
I had no idea that there's also E version. The one in this video is not E. I've no idea what the difference is.🙂
thank you for the comparison
what about the $200 price difference in my country?) which card would you recommend getting? PS rhetorical question
the cheaper one obviously
Cheaper no doubt
The 2x is great for a portable experience with an itx build.
If the performance isn't affected between their sizes, then the lunchbox case is very much doable.
Have the gpu on top with a mesh case to don't have heat problems because of blocked off flow from a glass enclosure, and you'll be fine
Your videos are great 👍 I have a question may I know GeForce RTX™ 4070 VENTUS 3X 12G OC is better or zotac gaming geforce rtx 4070 super trinity black edition 12gb gddr6x is better ?
Thanks!🤝🙂 Unfortunately, I've never experienced the Zotac card. So, can't say anything good or bad about it. What I can say is that the Ventus 3X is a good card. I wouldn't mind owning it.
W video, very useful in my decision-making for a purchase
Great to hear!
Will i5 12600 not k bottleneck my 4070 super at 1440p max settings in singleplayer games?
In most games - no. I wouldn't worry about it. Enjoy playing games on your new GPU🫡
Rare examples are poorly optimised games such as Dragon's Dogma 2 when you are in the city. I haven't seen a single CPU that can smoothly run that games in that scenario. I have i5 14400 and i7 14700KF. While the 14700KF provides a smoother experience, it is still far from normal. In contrast, the i5 is stuttering like crazy in the same scenario.
As long as you don't play games like that then you'll be fine.
Thanks i see now whats the problem!! Mine ventus 2x rtx 4060 ti while gaming is always 80c temperature!! 8GB Version, but when i put gpu power 62 its always 69 - 74 temperature!! MUST BE PROBLEM in ventus 2x!! , so guys dont buy ventus 2x if you want your gpu to live longer.
Hi Vadim! do you think there is any thermal or overheating issues with the x2? I just purchased it and am worried I dont have a reliable 4070 super.
Hi!👋 I don't have any issues with mine. I have the X2 in my personal PC.
@@theivadim Your the best, have an amazing weekend
@@theivadim do you happen to play COD warzone ? i get so much micro stutters playing it
Can't say that I do. But when I tested Warzone for my big 4070 SUPER review I didn't notice any stutters - th-cam.com/video/g3cVRPDGtyo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uk6l8PvZcAhCctE5&t=3099
I wish you a wonderful weekend as well!🤝 Thanks for watching my videos. I appreciate it🙂
Hey, i saw on ur spec sheet that u hace a A850GL, and im wondering is it a good psu for the 4070 Super? Im considering the A750GL
I've had it for two months. Works well for me.
@@theivadim alright sick, thanks! Im debating to either buy the 750GL or RM750e which was 20$ more
I love the look of 3x Ventus. I have a 3x rtx 2080 super and looks so nice. And performs pretty well for the age
Indeed. It's easy on the eyes🙂
I bought the Ventus 2x on the 14th May, sound does not bother me because most of the time I am wearing headphones while gaming or general computing. What did upset me and got me a bit worried was my Ventus 2x blew up last Sunday the 26th of May. I was playing a game on 4k, Ghost of Tsushima about 5 mins in and there was a puff sound and smoke came out of the side of the card and luckily my PC shut down. I had played the game for 45mins on the Friday with no problems. I removed the card immediately and it did not feel hot I then installed one of my old cards (GTX970) to see if the machine would boot up ok which it did. The dealer who sold me the card tested the card and it smoked for them too so they replaced the card with a new one. No problems with the new card up to now, was not sure if I should have asked for a different manufactorer,. I have Afterburner running now so I can keep a eye on the temps....lol a frightening experience even for a old guy like me.
That is very unfortunate. I'm happy to hear that you got a replacement so swiftly. There's always a chance to get a defective unit. No matter the manufacturer. I wouldn't worry about watching the temperature because that problem didn't happen because of overheating. It was an electrical problem. You can't catch it by watching the temps🙂 Luckily, modern power supplies come with all sorts of protections. That's why I thank that PSU is the most important part of PC. It can prevent fires and damage to other components by cutting power when required.
Thanks for your reply, I agree about psu’s. My computer had a Corsair M650 w psu, after the problem with the card and reading some reviews I have upgraded my psu to a Corsair RM850x so I have some overhead.
Just picked up the 2x for $400
Which card do you prefer?
I would save the 20 bucks, undervolt as I always do and get a card, that needs no support. I don't enjoy the sagging issue with the beefy cards.
@@kamipls6790fair point. 20 bucks is 20 bucks after all 😀 By the way, the Ventus 3X doesn’t need support even though it’s long because it is still a relatively lightweight card. No sagging.
neither, the ventus are the worst cards (i have a 2070 super ventus and it was shit before i watercooled it)
The only reason for 2x is a compact pc case
Well I use always a very primitive but highly effective noisblocker that already existed 2000 BC, I drill a hole in a wall and place the PC in an other room... where it can also render at night...
That brings me to my actual question: I woudl prefer the smaller Card in my case, noise does not care at all, BUT I will render a lot - meaning it will sometimes run 3-4 months straigt....
Noiselevel doesn't matter. If I am correct, I can simply go with the smaller card and with fans spinning fast it will just stay as cold and live as long?
Or would you think the 3X will provide more longlivety? I will probabaly use it 4-6 years until I upgrade...
A lot of folks say these Ventus underperform other GPU cards. In your experience, is this the case? Or did you notice results in line with other 4070 Supers?
Well it's kinda true, tou shouldn't buy the chipset gpu usually im buying same card for 125 $ more expensive for better cooling solution and being quiet
@@Nazwatonazwano
Definitely, 3 fans at 1500 is much quieter than 2 fans at 2050, not to mention there's a 7C difference in heat.
MSI did the same thing with the 3060 12GB models.
I have 4080 Super, and I undervolted it to 230-240watt (0.9V) instead of 320watt (3 coolers). My fans work on 35% (1325 rpm) with 100% gpu usage, temperature is less than 67C. And it's only 2-4% less FPS in games with undervolt. I like silence.:)
I suppose that undervolt can make this dual-cooler videocard less loud than 3-cooler in stock.
I used undervolt for 4070 too. It worked on 30% of rpm with 160watt (it had 3 coolers).
just paired 4070 super/7800x3d. its been a beast. a friend of mine wants to get a 4070 super but he has a i7 12700k. Do you think he will have bottlenecking issues?
Depends on what games your friend plays. In graphically demanding games the 12700K will do just fine. In competitive with lower graphics settings you may start feeling that the CPU may be holding you back. Not by much tho. So I'd say - go for it!👍
What a foolish question)) of course it will be fine. If not, use 1440p and get best graphics and 100% usage
In 720p or 1080p, if you play >300 FPS, there are small bottleneck issues. If you play 1440p, you can go with most cpus >$200 and if you play 4k, even an i5 12600 KF for $160 is good enough. If you like eye candy, raytracing, $200 more for the GPU is a lot better than buying a better CPU.
nop lol
70-73 GPU temp is normal?
Will this cause problems for the video card? And hotspot 85-87 is not too much?
Operating at 95-100+ C is pretty normal for silicon-based chips. The product will become obsolete way before you'll see any meaningful degradation because of temperature. Irresponsible use of voltage on the other hand is more important than temperature as was proven by Intel's latest issues plaguing some top-tier 13th and 14th gen CPU units.
@@theivadim Thx :)
The temperatures are high, because that case is very large for a 2-fan graphics card.
I have 3 fan ventus 4080s. I have set the curve for fans manually to run it at nearly 2500+ rpm above 55 degree Celsius temps. So the temp of my card hovers around 50-58 degress on load. Yes that much rpm makes signifant noise, but I would rather have a cooler gpu than noise. And since mostly I play with headphones on so hardly ever I could hear it during gaming sessions.
Coil whine is problem or not?
My MSI Mech OC 5700 XT with its Torx 3.0 fans was obnoxiously loud and would always spin up to 100% to get the same temps (73C while drawing 200W) at the same room temp and with good case airflow. The heatsink looks exactly the same so I guess Torx 4.0 fans are just that much better
hi, do you think asus dual 4070 super is loud? i want to buy it. thank you.
I've not had a chance to experience it. But if I remember correctly, Hardware Unboxed tested it and it was good. Check their TH-cam channel to make sure that I'm not wrong.
TL;DR : if your computer case can fit it, there is no reason at all to not go for 3X right ? The more the component can cool, better it is anyway, disregarding noise. Less heat is always better. The price difference is irrelevant IMO. The card is already too expensive but it's common sadly now.
Should i apply that card holder MSI gives for 3x or its fine without it because its slim version? This thing is pretty big and need to remove some case for it.
I didn't have any holder with my Ventus 3X. To me it's feels fine without additional support because the card is not that heavy. I haven't seen any bending or GPU sagging. Also, if you don't like big brackets then you can get another types of GPU support that are much more compact. Just search for "GPU support" on a large online retailer of your choice.
Just a question, did you notice any coil whine on either of the GPUs?
No, my units were fine. However, based on my extensive experience with countless graphics cards from different manufacturers, I can confidently say that any model has the potential to develop coil whine. It's a common occurrence; you could have 100 identical cards, and one of them might have this issue.
@@theivadim oh ok thanks!
I saw in another review there’s 1 chip that is away from the fans and heats tremendously upto 100 degrees
I ordered the 2X because the 3X was not available at BHPhoto. Since I will use it for AI, I will be dialing the power back to about 70-80% so probably not going to have any heat issues. Thanks for the video. Very good information.
There's no heat issues even with out of the box settings. It's just a little bit more noisy. That's all. I'm sure you'll have a good time with yours. Enjoy!😉
It's pretty dam good at ai then my 3080 I was wanting a 3090 for vram but this surprised me and it's better in gaming then 3090 im happy with it
I bought the PNY 4070 super VERTO Dual Fan, but am concerned after learning recently about the durability issues with GeForce. I'm wondering whether to buy another triple fan model or the RX7800XT triple fan model. In my country, PNY products come with a three-year warranty, so if they break within that period, they can be airlifted to the US for repair or replacement, but I feel like if I buy the Hellhound 7800XT, which has better cooling performance, I can play safely for five years. I think it's more important to have a triple fan, even if it has slightly lower performance, than to have a 4070 super. Since I haven't even unboxed the PNY Dual yet, I can buy the Hellhound 7800XT without any loss.
I’m not aware of any durability issues. Is it something specific to hot climate conditions?
@@theivadim I think it depends on the environment and how you use it, but many people have reported that the grease and thermal pads inside their graphic boards are deteriorating faster than expected. A board that can no longer handle the heat will have hot spots exceeding 100 degrees within minutes. If the 4000 generation breaks within a year of purchase, it is assumed that poor processing and poor quality materials during manufacturing were the cause. I haven't decided which board I will use yet, but whatever I use, I plan to use it while blowing air from the bottom of the case towards the board.
I wouldn't worry about that if you plan on using your PC in normal conditions like 18-27C ambient room temperature. Any Ventus card will do fine. I still prefer the 3X version🙂
Pc case? 😊
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Yeah, I had to skip him fighting with the cable. Too frustrating to watch, especially with shaky camera.
No difference between them about power for gaming or rendering?
Nope. The only difference is cooling.
great video, I've always wanted to know difference, but certainly 3x is worth the extra money.
Less rpm means less noise, and less wear and tear for the fans, resulting in a longer duration components for the card.
Couldn't agree more!
What's the first case called? Can't find it anywhere
Are you referring to the one with glass front? It's called CyberPower Prism. I don't think you can get it on its own. It comes as part of the CyberPower prebuilt PC.
I've been looking for the name of my CASE PC for a while.
And it’s the first time I’ve seen the same CASE PC as mine!
Could you give me the brand and model please? (in case I break the window, I want to be able to order it but I don't know the name of the PC case)
thanks in advance.
Are you asking about the one in the second half of the video? Fish tank style? It came as part of Cyberpower pre-built PC. I was trying to find it as well but couldn't. Looks like some kind of Cyberpower exclusive case.
thanks buddy!
Glad to help!
Than you so much ı like your channel whic one ı need to buy ı dont understand😅 3x or 2x
I'm glad you're enjoying my content. TLDR: get 3X if you want a very quiet GPU. But if other fans in your PC are not silent then saving some money by going with the 2X version is a good choice. It's not that loud. I'm pretty comfortable with the 2X noise level. I have it in my personal PC.
The fin-stack's are also running Horizontal on the 2X (which could conflict with front intake fans depending on space, but doesn't blow hot air down onto your Motherboard) Vertical fin-stack on the 3x (my 3080TI has this type & no issues with front fan intake but does try to cook your Motherboard so I mounted mine on a riser Vertical mount) 👍👍
How come a GPU that only pulls 200W is generating so much heat... Damn. 76ºc GPU and 86ºc Hotspot... with 2000 RPM! I have a RX 7800XT that pulls 280W (Sapphire Pulse, also 2-fan model) and at that wattage, my fan curve gets to about 1500-1600RPM with 60ºc on GPU and 80ºc on Hotspot, and the best thing is that it's barely audible.
Probably shitty factory thermal paste and thermal pad. I changed mine and overall temp reduced by 15 degrees
What I need to know is how thermally efficient is the 2 fan model and how much noisier is it with the fans running if it gets hot? I think the 2 fan model is going to be better as its smaller and more compact does not use as much power and can fit in smaller cases the 3 fan GPU's now are getting stupid in size and weight.
Honestly have 2x, isn’t loud. It uses less energy, which may be why it doesn’t make as much noise as lets say 3070 ti, which I did own.
@@moonrice3821 isn't loud, less energy, occupy less space, thanks bro I'll buy this one in the future
They use the same energy….
Does it come with the power cable adapter?
I think all 4070 supers and above come with corresponding power adapters. The 4070 TI has a 3 x 8pin to 12V adapter.
@@neostorm999 Thanks i actually got the card lucky you are right and it came with the adapter
Are they the same pcb?
I didn't check. Had to return the 3X already, so can't satisfy your curiosity. They didn't look different tho. Even if they were, it wan't drastic. Otherwise I would've noticed for sure.
@@theivadim it's OK, I spent a little more time and decided to return the 2x as well
I got the 2x and not having the problem getting 8pin out😂😂 lack of man grip bro... Mine is easy to unclip in 2 seconds.
It turns out that varies from connector to connector. I had an opportunity to put this GPU into other PCs with other PSUs and cables and sometimes it's hard to unplug it, sometimes it's easy.
does the 2X have rgb or no? I can't figure it out from the video, sometimes I looks like it does and then sometimes like it doesn't. Also can't find it anywhere on any website hahah
Both don't have RGB or any lights.
@@theivadim thank you G 👍👍
Thanks for the review. Even if it was a 50 dollar difference i would still get the 3 Fan GPU. I want good cooling meaning fans spin less and more silence
I'm glad it was helpful🙂
8 degree C difference is not nothing too in terms of making your room hot. The extra bucks of the 3 fan will definitely pay itself in not having to lower your AC temperature to compensate.
That's not how energy transfer works. Your PC will still dump the same amount of heat (energy) into your room no matter how many fans you have on your GPU. 200W is still 200W no matter how many fans you use to disperse it.
4070 ti super X2 fan or x3 fan?
I'd imagine the choice is similar to the cards you see in this video. Want quieter operation - then go for 3-fan model. Don't mind a little bit of noise then 2-fan will do fine.
Gonna go with 4070 super 2x ventus coming from 2060 super performance leap will be huge
Nice! Enjoy🙂
Always 2, never got ANY issue.
Correct me if I’m wrong:
The fans on the 2x one are slightly bigger than the one on the 3x, no?
Indeed, they are slightly bigger on the 2X.
My room gets 100+degrees F in the summer, looking to get the 3x for the coolingness
Wow. That is toasty🙂 3-fan card will definitely help.
Please can i overclock the Zotac 4070 super twin edge oc edition .. with 2 fans ?
Not recommended if u have that gopu and want very very much to overclock it more than a little bit then I recommend doing a custom loop
Привет, какая температура в нагрузке Hot spot и memory?
В видео же все указано, у Дуо гпу 85, память 74
@@MaxRenerrтерпимо))у тебя она?
Is it true 3xfan last more than 2xfan?
Technically, it's true because both cards utilise the same fan. 2-fan card runs its fans faster, which means that they will break sooner if the quality and environment conditions are exactly the same. However, in normal use over a normal lifespan I don't think you'll experience any difference. You'll most likely upgrade to a new GPU well before anything breaks.
@@theivadim tanks bro for your responding. If you can help me i would be very tankful. I want to use it for gaming in 2k resolution and my brother want to use it for video editing and rending. In my country iran there is a huge gap between 2x and 3x . Around 80 dollars difference. 80 dollars in my country means 20 days of working for 8 hours a day. For my usage which one do you recommend to buy? I wnat to buy the cheaper but i know that i can’t replace it to newer one for long time because of irans currency.
I don't think the 3x version is worth it over 2x if the price difference is that high. 20-30 dollars then maybe I'd say go for 3x. But not for 80. I think you'll be happy with the 2x version.
@@theivadim tanx🫶🏻💯🔥
cooler and quiter, I'll go with 3 fans
Hello My case is 35cm long and 16 cm width can the eagle rtx 3060 fit ??
Get 4060 instead.
@@assassinscreed4125 the vram is 8 gb i don’t think it’s worth it
@@nixon-a1
Watch some benchmarking videos on youtube. 3060 is too weak to utilize 12GB vram. Whenever it utilize more than 8GB vram the frametime graph become is so much unstable that it almost unplayable.
Do some research on internet and see with your own eye.
सुप्रभात 🙏, ventus 3X all the way .
Same. Well worth the extra $ for piece and quiet😌
If there was Power color 4070 super Hellhound it would be high on my shoping list, i know they are AMD only. My 7800xt was like 30 euros more than ref and it works dead silent on 55/70c.. I dont like entry 4070/super models at all, they look to cheap for that price. Like GPUs from two tiers bellow. Its just my opinion.
They are not only looking cheap , they are indeed cheap , and if you want a good looking one with a good built quality you usually have to pay 100-150$ extra to get one.
I'm seriously thinking about selling my unopened PNY 4070s dual and buying an rx7800xt Hellhound. The cooling performance of Power color's triple fan model is extraordinary. I would have bought Hellhound if PNY didn't have a special sale...
Thank you so mash
I'm glad the vid was helpful. Thank you for watching 🤝🙂
Greetings and good evening. I switched from 4060 graphics card to MSI Ventus 4070 super 2x graphics card. I saw 83 degrees in the furmark test. I know it is a series that gets hot. I don't think the air flow of my case is that good. The city I'm in is Denizli, it's hot, it's a roadside house, the heat of the road hits the room, I don't have air conditioning, so it's very hot, there's only a fan. There are no drops or anything, it plays stable, but it came to my mind and I wanted to ask, does anyone have an idea to do something like this? My previous card had a 4060 ventus 2x and it did not exceed 71 degrees. Good evening.
i got 2x still heat level never reach up to 45
my dude you are giving the vibe that you have a lot of 3x to sell.
i brought Gigabyte 4070 super couple days ago and it runs very quite and cool
Well I use a headset so cant hear them anyway so noise is not a problem, and should never be for anybody that uses a headset which now a days are everybody.
So then it should come down to performance, temperature and what are the differences if you choose to OC your gpu with msi's afterburner which you can use for any card.
Logically there’s no reason for 3 fan models to exist since the 9 series
they started using those for better cooling years ago when gpu got hotter
since like the 9 series was the last time a 3 fan card made any real difference in being cooler by a good amount
Not only does 3 fans cost more their bigger and need a bigger case
It’s just better to pay less and get a smaller one
on top a bigger one can have slag easier than a smaller 2 fan cause of the weight
Well .. I had the 4070 TI Super Ventus 2x with a coil whine. Brand new, sent it back to MSI for repair, but instead, they replaced it with the 3x version. Now it won't fit in my SFF case Mechani Master S24 .. what a bunch of idiots