What a difference! Inc Prices! Ao Nang, Krabi, Thailand 🇹🇭
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มี.ค. 2023
- We said we would never go back to Ao nang in Krabi, South Thailand but we heard things had changed and the resort has 'grown up' a little which makes it better for tourists. There is a lot of construction work going on in Aonang at the moment but don't let this put you off.
In this vlog we will try to answer the following;
Things to do in Ao Nang
Prices in Ao Nang
Boat Trips from Ao Nang
Getting to Railay Beach, Krabi
Nightlife in Ao Nang
Food in Ao Nang
Monkey Trail Ao Nang
Ao Nang Landmark Night Market
In our next vlog we go on a private longtail boat tour to do the famous 4 island tour in Krabi covering Chicken Island, Tup Island, Poda Island and Railay Beach.
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Excellent vlog again guy definitely looks lots to do and places to eat. Look forward to next vlog on your island boat trip
Thanks Tony!
Thankyou guys another great vlog, plenty to do,plenty of food places, markets are the best, Lovely place all round xx
Glad you enjoyed it. The markets were ok but wore thin after so long 😆
Brilliant vlog. Nice for you to be able to compare from 5yrs ago for us. Looks like it's on the up but too many hotels and tourists will spoil it a little. Love the night markets and the food stalls etc. Looking forward to the next vlog as the Islands look amazing.
Yeah it does feel like it's getting a little crowded but now the hassle has reduced it's more pleasant. Some will love it for it being like the Las Americas of Krabi but it's simply a good gateway to unpopulated islands
Slowly getting through all of your uploads guys. Getting to be one of my favourite channels on TH-cam you are both very down to earth and explain things simply. Keep up the great content. Thought about uploading even at home etc as I know your travels have finished for the time being?
We have thought about it but it's a limited market for what we aim for. A few have asked us for some on our day to day lives but truth be told we lead very uninteresting lives. Nobody wants to see us decide between plums or grapes at Morrisons. We have considered doing York but it's trying to fit it in as it will take 2 visits. 1 to scout for the deals and then another to film. Keep your eyes peeled in the next few weeks as we've just recently filmed another vlog that people have been badgering us to do for over a year. We won't ruin the surprise but it's very budget friendly. Glad you're enjoying the vlogs. We put a hell of a lot of work into it and most take 2-3 full days of editing, a day of hunting for bargains and filming locations and 1-3 days of filming depending what we cover. There's nothing fake about us and what you see is what you get, which is something we'll never change. Your support means a lot to us!
Brilliant video going there in December it looks great thanks guys for the tips
Cheers
No worries Brian! The next episode will probably interest you as well as the 5 islands tour is a definite must do when you are in Ao Nang. Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it! John & Becky
just ran into your vid guys i loved it, i remember i went to thialand with my gf back in 2017 we had a blast we also tried tandori nights it was an introduction to indain food we've loved it since! great video, subbed
That's a lovely comment for us to wake up to today and we're glad someone else has enjoyed what they offer. Thanks very much for watching and sharing your memories. Hopefully you'll find more inspiration on our channel with vlogs we've done. Take care! 😊
Great video, we are going in December and this was helpful
Fantastic! Glad it helped and thanks for letting us know 🙂
You too just get better and better. Loved all the food menu's and prices. We will deffo be going there next year amazing. And you both look happy there is this your favourite place
Hey you two. It was nice to see how it is now, although Chiang Mai is definitely where you'd find us if we ever decide to up sticks and live in Thailand. It's really hard filming on just one day as we literally have to run round the resorts but we tried to capture what we could. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@ParksTravelGuide we will have to watch again. Mouthwatering
I miss this place sooo much ,was there in 2008 ,this vid is extremely nostalgic ,thanks guys 😁
No worries. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching! 😊
Great video, straight to the point, i will be visiting Ao Nang in Jan 2024 this video was very helpful, thank you
Thanks Dean. We try to include as much as info that we think is beneficial (or info that we would want to know) in each vlog we do. Hope you enjoy your trip when the time comes!
Really useful video, we were last in Ao Nang in 2018, so interesting to see the differences!
Hey! Thanks very much for watching and we're glad you enjoyed it 🙂
I'm going there soon but decided to research first. Seen loads of videos made by tourists but yours seem the most honest and accurate. I particularly like how you include prices in everything so that we have an idea of what we're spending. New subscriber from a fellow UK traveler
Thanks very much Hiram. We include prices on every vlog we do so you've got an idea before you go and tell you what matters. Glad you've found it useful and hopefully some of our others will give you inspiration too. Take care and thanks for watching 🙂
@@ParksTravelGuide If you ever get the chance to go back to Thailand may I suggest going north? There are some astonishing temples in Buriram and Phetchabun and unrivalled landscapes. I and others I am sure, prefer local life rather than the over saturated tourist destinations like Phuket and Pattaya. Thanks again for an excellent channel :)
@@hiram10563 our favourite is Chiang Mai (there's a vlog on that which was before Ao Nang). We also visited Chiang Rai but didn't film. We much prefer the North in all honesty. Chiang Mai is our happy place in Thailand.
@@hiram10563 on another note we're really pleased you've joined us. Be sure to check our our socials as we post a lot of info on upcoming trips and behind the scenes stuff. Insta and Facebook under Parks Travel Guide 🙂
Cheers guys, really useful, there in a couple of weeks,
No worries! Glad it's helped 🙂
Hi..you guys are great!!! 👌👌 i’ve checked quite few vlogs about krabi and thailand but most of them are about travelers filming themselves and a a little bit of destination. All the best! Katarina
Thank you Katarina, that really means a lot. We hope you'll check out some of our other vlogs on our channel. Take care 🙂
I have been to Ao Nang twice in Feb 2018 and Feb 2020 and yes 4 Island Tour was good but I think Hong Island Tour was better. And yes Phi Phi Island Tour is probably easier to get to from Ao Nang. I would spend a good day in Railey especially going to Tonsai Beach, west Railey Beach and Phra Nang Beach. As for Indian Restaurants in Ao Nang, Govinda's is really good which is opposite the hotel I was staying in Feb 2020
Hey there! Someone mentioned to us about the Hong Islands but at least we can leave something for another time. Railay was much bigger than we imagined, but at least this time we saw the main part as the last time we did the tour it was just the area with Phra Nang. Thanks for the recommendation on Govinda's, we'll be sure to make a note on that one! Thanks very much for watching and taking the time to comment 🙂
Thks for the tips + prices 👌
No worries! Hope it helps.
Went to aonang last 2015 and we flying tomorrow, heaps of changes and increase on tour rates based on your vlog. Thx for the information guys❤
Hey Sarves. Sad to say every country we've visited on our current 6 month trip have hiked prices in some form, presumably since Covid too. We found it's cheaper up in Chiang Mai and Rai rather than down South. We filmed at the start of last month so don't expect much change on the information given. Have a good trip!
I loved your video. Really informative. I am going there in December for a month...touring the Islands around Krabi/Lanta etc...little stop in Pattaya at the end ..so super excited. I am subscribing x p.s where did you stay? I know all the hotels
Hey there! Thanks very much. We originally planned on 3 nights but extended longer as we planned to go to Phuket but then changed the plan as we realised on our budget it wasn't going to be feasible so we decided to leave Thailand and had a brief visit to Kuala Lumpur. We had to wait a few days for the flights to come down in price so overall we stayed in 3 different places according to our budget. Firstly we stayed at PK Mansion and couldn't wait to leave, we fancied something nice so opted for Aonang Dugong (best out of the 3) and then we moved to Wake Up! Ao Nang which was so-so. Last time we went we stayed at what was the Vogue resort, now a Holiday Inn after a big makeover. We wanted to go to Lanta and especially Lipe but it's 'unfinished business' to give us a reason to come back sometime in the future. Thanks so much for watching and letting us know you enjoyed it as it means the world to your very average content creators like us. We've got the 4 islands boat tour coming on Thursday teatime so we hope you will enjoy that too. All the best! John & Becky x
Leo would like to know if you tried a Leo beer? He’s going to go when he’s 18 apparently. Great vlog. Looking forward to your next one. The islands looked amazing.
I did indeed. Infact I prefer it over Chang. Singha is a second choice though. The islands are beautiful, more of which you'll see in the next vlog
we just got back from there, the 2nd night market you went to seems to have really grown now. the area of land you was on 13:30 is full of food places to eat now
That sounds great! Thanks for letting us know 🙂
We spent two weeks in Au Nang. I trained at Kuen Suek Muay Thai while my buds slept off the debauchery in RCA night after night. We stayed at Pagi Pagi Villas, HIGHLY recommended! While I loved it there, my favourite spot in Thailand was easily Koh Phangan. Thanks for the vid!
We'll keep it in mind for the future Kris as we love recommendations. Thanks very much for watching 🙂
Thanks for your recommendations. You are a nice and pretty couple.
Thanks very much! Hope we've helped 🙂
Yes, you actually have. In a very entertaining and practical way. I'll keep on following your channel. Thanks again.
Thank you very much. That means a lot! 🙂
Love ao nang...beach bar 1 is a personal fave next to the beach.
10min long tail ride to railay and stay there for a couple days it's paradise
Hey! Staying in Railay was going to be part of the plan, but in fairness our plans changed 4 times in 2 days both from a cost perspective and also onward travel. We cover a little bit of Railay in the following vlog where we did the 5 island tour and we can understand why people stay. Thanks very much for watching 🙂
@@ParksTravelGuide yh railay is bigger than I thought than just the main part where the long tails come in and that path from the beach with the bars etc ...there's a back end to it which has a strip near the sea which also has a few bars that at night is just magical....anyway good vid keep up the good work
Thanks very much. We honestly thought it was just the bars and the hotels on the beach, turned a corner and bam! Obviously we didn't see it all and had intentions to go back but we left 2 days after we filmed the the boat trip. This was filmed the day before that was done. Really appreciate your words and thanks for taking the time to watch us!
Hi guys, it looked pretty good here and hassle free, even better! That paprika potato looked really good 😊 The tiki buildings are so cute. All the food 🥘 looks amazing. I love the way you said you were banned from clothes shopping in the night market Becky then you are lagging behind looking at dresses 😂😂😂😂😂
Hey Kezza! It was a much nicer experience this time for sure. Thai food is some of the best but can't beat the way that it's made up in Chiang Mai (apart from the red curry). Too many clothes and not enough baggage allowance ☹️. Good to see you pop up! Hope you are well x
Great video guys, the place has changed since the last time i went in December 2022, before that was 2016, still a relaxed place but has lost some of its charm, the food market you went to see near RCA, the food its more for the western taste, i went to eat there a few times, not the best, lots more hotels and shops, still good day trips to the nearby islands, but sadly getting like Phi Phi island, very touristy now, i would go back but just for less time, maybe just for a few days next time.
Hey Fred! It is changing massively for sure. You're right about the charm as they are squeezing hotels anywhere they can and in peak season it will be really congested. It's certainly hard to find real thai food cooked with love, but the Family restaurant was probably the gem of the whole area in our opinion. We don't think we would hurry back in all honesty but we can understand how it would appeal to some. Thanks very much for watching! John & Becky x
Hey there you two! Names Jason based in Hampshire. A few questions please.
I was last in AoNang in 2005. Wow how its changed. Am thinking about visiting next year. Please could you tell me where did you fly in to? Was it Phuket? Did you get taxi around to Aonang? About 3 hours if I remember correctly? And what hotel did you stay at ? Many thanks Jason
Hey Jason. We didn't go to Phuket but know people who have jumped on the bus or taxi round there. We flew into Krabi from Chiang Rai and got a taxi. If you're going to/from Phuket It's a bit longer due to the landslides the other year which block a vital quicker route but I think your estimations on time are about right. We stayed in 3 different hotels during our time there, although the first one when we arrived was more like a run down hostel so we didn't film it. We mention where we stay in the vlog and we honestly can't remember the exact names as we've done a lot of travelling and hotels since then. I know our favourite was called the Dugong. Aonang Dugong perhaps? It was named after a whale I think. We think the other was called Wake up aonang which was about a street away from it. If in doubt it'll be on the vlog in text anyway along with what we paid. Take care 🙂
Very informative video. Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Hey Mughal! Thanks for watching and we're glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Hi, really informative video.
Anyway I am going to krabi for first time next week. You think better stay at ao nang or krabi town, or where?
Hey! We've always stayed in Ao Nang but next time probably Krabi town. If you like it really touristy then Ao Nang is where you should be. Krabi town is a bit less hectic so we hear but we haven't had any personal experience of staying there.
Had a lovely two weeks in so nang, we thought the beaches let the place down though, more like taxi ranks for boats than beach.
You're right on that one. If you go to the second beach is less polluted with diesel and boat traffic, but we agree it could be much nicer. Sadly that won't change though with it being a transport hub. Glad you had a nice holiday and thank you for watching! John & Becky x
A question about taxis. Will using a service with a fixed price board reduce the risk of a dodgy driver or better to go with something like Grab?
Hey there. We found it really hard to get a Grab as most were in Krabi town and wouldn't come to Ao Nang, even for an airport run! There are a few reputable companies online who do airport transfers but also taxi runs, say to Krabi town which is about 25mins away providing you book in advance. If it's a short distance then a Tuk is better, although they will try and have your pants down too so it's good to have a rough idea of how much to expect by asking a local. If you can get a Grab then go for it as it's a much better and convenient option but count it as a bonus if you get one.
Thanks for video, very well presented. I’ve never been to Thailand and on the strength of this I don’t think I’ll bother, but like Benidorm! Would prefer somewhere a LOT less built up, can you advise? Cheers
Hey Jack. In fairness you won't get much more built up than Benidorm is from what it was. Sadly all tourist resorts are now cramming in what they can as business owners fancy a slice of the pie. As touristy as Chiang Mai is in the North of Thailand we much prefer it over the South...and it's a bit cheaper. We have a vlog on that too. Chiang Rai was nice also but we didn't film there. Even islands in the Philippines are changing from quiet areas to tourist Mecca's like Boracay. If you don't want built up but still fancy Thailand then stay away from the Phuket area, mainly Patong. You might benefit from the islands like Koh Tao, Koh Samui and Koh Phangan - although the latter island is a bit raucous and known for the full moon parties. Depending where you stay in Samui it can be nice and we had a reasonable trip when we went but still preferred Chiang Mai. If we're being brutally honest Vietnam would take precedence over Thailand now though as it's still developing but cheaper than Thailand and with better food. We've got vlogs on Hanoi and Hoi An but also went to Da Nang where we had some time for ourselves without the camera. Definitely a country worth adding to your list. Hope it's a bit of inspiration! Thanks for watching 🙂
@ParksTravelGuide thank you for that, I did hear that Vietnam is like Thailand once was 30-40 years ago? I was exaggerating with the Benidorm comparison (a place I'd never visit) but I hope you got my drift. Thanks again
@calderjack7818 we wouldn't say 30-40 years ago by any means. It's quite cosmopolitan in places but still has a lot of charm and is appealing without being in your face touristy (for now). I can see people shifting from Thailand to Vietnam. Phu Quoc is on our list when we go back. If you look at the pictures online you'll see why.
To crowded. Excellent video.
We feel you. Thanks for watching!
I liked the big mosque at the top of hill in ao nang. Was beautiful. nobody talks about the big Muslim influence in this area.
@@bigtime911 Correct. Although we haven't seen it ourselves it's one we would be interested in if we ever find ourselves back there. Some mosques are more grand than the UK churches and even though we aren't of the faith we still like to pay a visit. Jama Masjid in Delhi was one of our favourites so far.
Great vid! Can’t wait to go back and was wondering how Ao nang is now and prices. This vid definitely makes me excited to get back over there 😆
Have a good one when you do! 🙂
I have been to Ao Nang 3 times, with the first time in 2011 and the last in 2016. In 2011, the prices were good there, but the 2 times we came back afterwards, Ao Nang has become one of Thailand's most expensive places. But it's nice that they now seem to have more places with good food at good prices, something I missed when I was there last. In 2011 I did the Koh Hong excursion. and then I paid 600 or 700 baht in total with a longtail boat, those prices you showed in the video are unacceptable, but maybe they were for speedboat and not longtail boat? I have 4 days open on my trip for Ao Nang, but haven't booked a hotel yet because I might consider skipping Ao Nang. Never really liked that city, but the dramatic cliffs and nature are the only thing that attracts. I've always had more fun in other destinations in Thailand, but the nature around Krabi is unique which makes it worth experiencing at least once. Maybe I'll come back to Ao Nang, or I'll improvise and use the 4 days for something else? Time will tell how it turned out,
Hey Peter! Yeah the prices in the book were filmed at a travel agent and for speedboats. This was one of the more expensive places as you can tell but it's just for reference. So Nang is getting very built up very quickly and there are many nicer places, although we prefer the North for it's beauty and it's cheaper. It's horses for courses though. Whatever you do we hope you have a fantastic time and we really appreciate you watching 🙂
Hi, are those prices of day trips for person or for the whole boat capacity?
Hey Ahmed. The ones by speedboat to the likes of Phi Phi island are per person. We hired a boat on the next vlog at a set price and it takes 4 people or you can pay more to carry more passengers.
Which month did you take this vid?
Thanks for the info!!
Ao Nang is next on our list!!
No worries. This was filmed at the start of February in 2023. Glad you found it helpful and thanks for watching 🙂
We would like to go there in october or november. Would you recommend it because of the weather or when you should we travel between october and february?
November is rainy season down in the South apparently so it may be best leaving it as late as you can. It's warm rain though which is nice, but torrential.
Stay at Holiday Stay Ao Nang Beach Resorts with a pool access room. 100 Mt from the beach and we had a great time with breakfast included
@@jasonmurray4726 Thanks for the tip, but I'm looking for a place to stay with a private pool in ao nang or phuket. Have you any ideas? Would it make sense too travel there in october?
good good good
Thanks Mariana!
Have you guys been to Hat Yai or Songkhla yet?
We're saving that for another trip but great recommendation! We only managed just under 3 weeks in Thailand before we moved on.
Is there grab in Ao Nang? Or what kind of transportation can you take from Ao Nang to Krabi night market?
Hey Jenny. Grab is available but we found there were rarely any drivers around Ao Nang as they were mostly in Krabi town. We walked everywhere when we were there and didn't go to Krabi itself. It's about a 25 minute drive I believe. TukTuks are readily available which is the most common option in and around the resort and there are always normal taxi's touting for business for longer distances.
Last time I was in Ao Nang there was a bus that done pick ups at various accommodation places,ask at the reception where you are staying.
Honest question guys.... are you scared of the end of the trip? Is there an end to it? Could you find work and keep it going, or is there a return to the old life? Because I Don't want it to end for you both. Or us, that get to come along.
It's a good question Gav and we'll answer honestly. We're petrified. Money is the biggest issue, both for our here and also mortgage and bill payments at home so unfortunately we have to come back. We have (and still are) mulling over the idea of remote working, but a lot of jobs don't pay overly great unless you've got previous experience in IT, web development, digital marketing etc. We've spoken to many out here who've just done it and worried about it later, but are still managing fine. A regular income would change things massively. It's certainly gave us a lot of perspective job wise and it's certainly showed that if it wasn't for friends and family then I very much doubt we'd live in the UK. Thanks for sticking with us!
hello..can i ask where you guys stayed in krabi??
Hi. Aonang Dugong and Wake up Aonang. We also say which we preferred
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Thank you for watching 🙂
Miss this place... How was the weather?
Beautiful. Very humid though! We had one heavy rain shower one evening that lasted about 20mins but overall it was bliss compared to the month of rain we had in the Philippines in December 😆
@@ParksTravelGuide thanks for the reply.. ♥️
No worries. Sorry we're a bit behind with replying - just arrived in Agra.
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I'm going to Krabi in February 2024. These prices 7:55 are for each person right? So a tour to Phi Phi costs around 160€ each person? I thought it would be a lot cheaper 😯
Hey Konstantinos. This tour agent seemed to be the most expensive and we filmed it for a guide only as it was on our route of filming. There are many others which will more than likely offer you a cheaper price, we just didn't have the time to go round some asking for a tour that we wouldn't be going on. I'll be very surprised if you can't find it much cheaper at the first place you ask.
I would not go if I were you, there are other great places
You can take a ferry to phi phi for 500 baht
When was that video taken? Exact?
We filmed on the 1st March.
Walking down the main street in Ao Nang I get accosted by Taxi drivers, stall holders and restaurant staff at least 20 times a day. Twice in four days waiters have tried to short change me. Now I walk down the beach side of the road. I won't be comng back.
Hey Ian. We actually found it a little better this time than in 2018 but the majority of hassle comes from the tailors we've found, with a few of the Indian restaurants chipping in too. It's one thing we hate and what put us off last time but it seems like you're getting it all! Sorry to hear that it's not been the best.
Ugh, yes , most places like that , patience, they all trying to make a living !
Grow a pair
I loved the mosque at the top of the hill at ao nang. Beautiful. Nobody talks about it
Better options south in Trang trust me and cheaper, less tourists. Pakmeng beach, Yao beach, koh labong, koh suckhorn, koh kraden, emerald cave, koh laoliang
You mentioned loads of Indian restaurants, is there also a large Indian tourist presence too?
Mainly shop owners but you'll also see some tourists milling around. I'd say the majority are Brits which explains it 😆
@@ParksTravelGuide yep, us Brits love a good curry 🤣
@@rotty66 Absobloodylutely Gary!
Is it cheaper than Phuket?
Hey Louis. We have heard it is a bit more expensive in places over there but we are unsure on how big the difference is. We didn't make it to Phuket as the accommodation prices were ridiculous.
Hello iam delagat show from africa but in thailand now
Hey Delagat! We hope you have an amazing time! Thanks for watching 🙂
4 island should be only 1100 baht per person not 2200 baht
For a shared or private one? We paid slightly less in 2018 for a private boat but the boat co-operative have fixed prices up on their board that were non-negotiable. If you mean at the tour agency then they were expensive compared to others
You can draw out 30,000 on those Krungsri ATMs 👍
Aha! Cheers Richard!
the hotels sewage is pump out where people swim, not good
We heard that! Hopefully this will change in time like they did in Boracay, Philippines.
@@ParksTravelGuide i doubt it- hehe
we visited again in december 2022, was last there in 2016, we liked it then but now its like what the hell has happened, definitely wont be returning again, was such a disappointment. great vlog guys
Mass tourism dominating, Steve. Can you imagine it in another 5-10 years? Mental.
Only getting worse im afraid, we do Asia twice a year and xmas gone is the last for us for a good while
We've seen Thailand creep up in price over the years but mass tourism is ruining it. We still love Chiang Mai but wouldn't hurry back to Krabi. We preferred Vietnam as it's cheaper and the food is just as good. Hopefully you'll get a bit of inspiration if you have a look at our other vlogs. We've still got more but we're taking a brief pause until we return to the UK and continue editing at home.
@@ParksTravelGuide weve done alot of thailand, from north to south over last 10 years, love exploring and enjoy watching people like yourselves enjoying life when we only have 3 weeks each time, vietnam we loved and will go back in a year or 2, will have a look at your previuos vlogs for inspiration, thanks you :)
Ao Nang is very very expensive city !!!
It's certainly getting there compared to the North! Thanks for watching 🙂
Its tan doori nights not tan dori night cant he speak properly it annoying
It annoys me when people can't spell properly. 'It's annoying' is the correct term not 'it annoying' for future reference if you want to nit pick. I'd say thanks for watching but in all honesty we'd rather you watch someone else if it bothers you that much. Nobody is perfect, including yourself as you've just proved. Have a wonderful day.
Wow! You’ve spelt tandoori wrong twice and are trying to school others! Hahaha
I just came back there with my gf to Chiang Mai. We went to Aonang and were supposed to stay for 2-3 weeks but we canceled after the 2-3 day. Huge dissapointed, won't ever go back there.
Hey Simeonov. It's a very touristy place now and getting much busier. It's a bit like marmite...you either like it or you don't. We feel the same as you. Chiang Mai is much nicer! Thanks for watching 🙂
So where would you go instead, on south Thailand?
We'd do the islands next time we think. Koh Tao, Samui (again) and Koh Phangan. Koh Lipe took our fancy too but it's in the other direction and closer to Malaysia. It's a big 'if' we went back South though as Vietnam stole our hearts with food and culture that was just as good and less pricey.