Most of the lyrics that I still live by till today from Biggie weren't his ones pertaining to drug dealing anyway: "Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart’s in it, and live the phrase ‘sky’s the limit.." "can't change the world unless we change ourselves" So how real his street life was didn't matter to me all that much
You must’ve been born in 96. Cause rap was metaphorical and about dissing and saying shit so you had to use your brain to figure out the bars. You peon
@@meladgoat those who he was talking to, knew he was talking about them, that is not sneak. He just had a different way of articulating his offences. As for 'Long Kiss Goodnight', while I don't condone dissing the dead, BIG make it pretty clear who he is referencing and those (Death Row) he is referencing know it. BIG dissed everyone from NAS, Wu-tang members, and even his own labelmates, Faith Evans, THE LOX and Craig Mack. He even dissed DJ Premier on the track Premier produced for him. Just because he didn't spell it out, doesn't make it a sneak dis. Dissing anyone is easy, but when you put it in a way that they have to think about it and work it out, to me that makes even more infuriating to the recipient, sometime they were obvious and sometime they were subtle. It was a talent and it was on a level that many rappers can't reach. 'Hit em Up' was a diss track but I wouldn't say it displayed any kind of talent, would it have blown up if we didn't know who PAC was talking about?
@@DukeLemonadewhen u don’t direct it it’s a sneak diss made dissed jay platinum nun this that bar facts with no name to it big dissed many with no name to it so yea they did sneak diss subliminal what ever how can u down play hit em they was playing it in clubs on the east coast and overseas they play it n the club today u tryna down play things where the numbers show the impact foh u can’t create ya own narrative to things that actually happened u can interrupt them how I want but u not the pen behind the bars so u don’t know
@@DukeLemonadeif Hit Em Up wasn’t requiring any talent, try to recreate it then. And try to do the Outro of that song exactly how Pac did. You can’t. Also the outro has a rhyming pattern ya’ll prolly missed since Pac was throwing it off the dome.
Mecca is the GOAT at hearing someone wrong, forming a response and telling that person "you said" and being incorrect at quoting the person. It always de rails good conversation on this show.
Nah niggas was saying “keep it real” and “this is my life on these records”. D Dot not being honest in this interview. Rappers in the 90s were definitely presenting themselves as authentic street dudes.
D Dot is full off it! They thought by settling for subliminal shots they could appear to be the good guys who didn't want trouble. Nobody told big hold up...this may get us in trouble and it sure did.
@@kharyvines6971 . I don't know how old you are. But in the 90's before there was an Internet that tells us everything. We really thought Ice Cube was a stone cold killer. You had to be there to understand
@@mistermay7986 Why? You didn't really listen to Cube. Cube NEVER killed people in first person on a record, EVER. He didnt do that Spice 1 kill'em up rap. He told stories & a lot them he talked about the consequences. He grew up in a reputable LA hood & his closest bodyguard is from that hood, but Cube never conflated his OWN street credibility with business. That is gangsta. Cats want people to crash out just to entertain them. If that is where you at ? Look at where Young Thug is today fighting for chance just to be free one day again. The gangsta talk is real & thats why he is where is is today, 9 figure net worth with several businesses. That's gangsta, NY mob level gangsta. A lot of people think shooting somebody in a dice game outside a liquor store on side street is gangsta, nah that's a fool.
@@sunnyside9273 Gangsta Gangsta Cube lyrics Here's a little somethin' 'bout a nigga like me Never should've been let out the penititary Ice Cube, would like to say That I'm a crazy muthafucka from around the way Since I was a youth, I smoked weed out Now I'm the muthafucka that you read about Takin' a life or two, that's what the hell I do You don't like how I'm livin' well fuck you This is a gang, and I'm in it My man Dre'll fuck you up in a minute
@@mistermay7986the rappers were just that convincing but at the end of the day ppl need to know it's music its entertainment and not follow what the music says. We need to live life for ourselves not for keeping it real in music lyrics
I love Notorious BIG but D Dot not keeping it a buck on BIG, because Biggie was the King of indirect sublinals, he would rarely ever say a direct diss, it was always indirect, and true hip hop heads now this!
It's amazing how fools like this think they can throw rocks than hide in the bush like nobody's saw them. This is the naive way of thinking that got BIG killed. These fools like DDot and Puff made BIG feel safe not knowing who they was fking with. Subliminal sneak disses were a declaration of war! Especially when Puff is running his mouth at the end of a record. Ddot plays stupid and than stupid things happen smh
I agree to a point about Rapper's not living what they write, but some rapper's now days are either waiting for a court date or sitting in jail for living out what they spit, and the law is using their lyrics against them.
Nas Wu tang Jay z Twista Etc.... it was normal to use subliminals back in the day, it takes alot more talent to do subliminals than just say fuck you or i'm gonna kill you etc...
D Dot not keepin it real. Bad boy was definitely droppin disses at Pac/Death Row. What was “Long Kiss Goodnight” “who shot ya” Bad Boy was on some “throw rocks and his ya hand”type shit. There was obvious beef and hate between BB and DR. Puff and BIG were definitely taking shots on and off wax. Let’s keep it all the way 1000. Most of us were all there during those times and know the facts
You absolutely did not listen to this interview in its entirety. There's a segment where he breaks down when " Who Shot Ya' " actually came out, immediately following with quotations and clarification of Biggie's verses that WERE actual shots at Pac. He kept it 💯
This was a great clip only thing I don't like is that they wasn't allowing Mecca to make his point because Mecca I've realized is that he's a good listener.
It’s when these rappers get in interviews and say they really live what they rap about. Until the artists are keeping it real while actively selling records and say it’s just entertainment, then it’s not the consumers fault to think the rappers are telling the truth.
@@lovehate8286Im a parent. I'm responsible for what ideology my child is entertaining. If your child doesn't know what to believe, it's not some entertainer.
Bad Boy did a lot of sneak diss and subluminal. They didn't want the smoke. Ddot need to keep it 100. Pac had them shook, I don't buy that they wanted to keep the high road and not come down to their level.
There was a time when what was labeled "back pack" was the mainstream and selling platinum. PE. KRS. Later, there was Tribe and De La. And the rappers that came from that got pushed to the underground because the labels wanted NWA energy which became industry standard. This is what caused rappers to say "yall not doing Hip Hop." And rapping for "entertainment" was stories about crime where it only affected REAL people in REAL life because they were trying to be REAL like the rappers. It not only got to a point where rappers started to REALLY die from there entertainment but now it got to the point where rappers are REALLY telling their crimes in their raps. Now, because of this RICO, rappers want to walk back this real shit as entertainment. We all know Denzel isnt Lorenzo. These rappers want to method act and choose the convenient time to say it's onky entertainment. Tie in the label to the RICO and all of this "real shit" goes away quick. Rap albums will begin to start off like Law and Order after that
That is why alot of these rappers get got when they go other cities and sometimes, their own city.The robbers look at lit like, I live this , day in and day out, you rap about it and living in a mansion in the burbs.We call those ppl haters.I dont think they are haters.they are fucked up trying to figure it out and believe that these rappers are profiting off of their pain and they want their cut.
D Dot skipped over it with that Talib story, but "Long Kiss Goodnight" was definitely full of subliminal disses towards Pac. From the 'Laugh Now Cry Later' and 'We Ain't Mad at Ya line' and some other shit. Plus the adlibs in the background from Puff saying "We ain't talking about no other rappers, we talking about YOU!!"
@@flygenyus2186 yeah biggie was pretty slick for doing that in LA at that particular time, he was pretty much dissing pac and the west coast at the same time which is one of the reasons I never felt sorry for what happened to him out there
This is a good segment. Rap is an expression and as a art should be seen as such positive or negative. Taking an artform at face value however is counterproductive to its intent. Most rappers imo never claimed to be role models, they told stories intermixed with life experience on wax. If you took that as the genuine article of their life that's on the listener. Tbh most people don't know Sean Carter the man, we know jayz the artist and the persona he projects to a wide audience.
@@alanduff1054 of course, but a public persona is different then the whole person. I think it's difficult to suspend belief in folks persona because of their accessibility in the public eye. But we don't truly KNOW these men. Like anything in life you have to take any perspective with a grain of salt.
@@jman1562001Agreed but my intuition tells me BOTH dudes practice DARK behavior and what's done in the dark WILL be brought to the LIGHT during these PRECISE times
I'm so sick of the "bad boy victim" card always played. New York rappers loved subliminals back then and bad boy ran by the bad girl diddy was the queen of sneak disses. You forget biggie was on an LA radio station rapping long kiss good night 6 months after PAC died. Stop with the lies already.
Pac lied first. Pac lies caused his death and Biggie's death. You 2Pac groupies make up so many excuses for that dead ballerina its pathetic. You 2Pac fanboys act like Pac was an innocent bystander. FOH
I agree with D. Dot on the life truths line. All these rappers ain’t super drug dealing murderers. It’s entertainment. Not saying there isn’t any truth to their raps but these rappers weren’t Escobar or el chapo, freeway etc. but I disagree on the sneak dissing point. Big sneak dissed a lot of ppl
Only a fool would think they were in my opinion..they street reporters with a limited experience of the things they rap about but who better to tel the story,paint the picture than these artists who are from the streets and can put the words together in such a genius way
@@eastcoastpaper3862 Oh well if he meant currently then a lot of them Chicago rappers are definitely living what they rap about them Chicago rappers are different fr.
Yea but 50 was no kingpin also. 50, Jay Z, Snoop, rapper Scarface, Fat Joe, T.I., Boosie, Master P, UGK, E-40, Eazy E, Ice T and others were hustlers who worked underneath the big well known gangstas. Those artists that I just named were not on any Freeway Ricky Ross or Harry O type level but those guys were getting their money and hustling for a few years in order to get their families out their neighborhoods. They took their own personal stories and mixed it in to create a movie for entertainment purpose.
@@SoulOfTheSouth You right 50 wasn’t kingpin level but he definitely was street boss level he rain his whole block and started his own street gang G-unit was a street gang way before a rap group alot of people don’t know this tho.50 was definitely more than just a hustler/drug dealer he was a gang leader/street boss.
Does anyone realize back in the 90s a song was recorded way b4 ir came out. Especially from a major. You make the song. Now you gotta line up all your promo. Radio stations, magazines etc. The process took way longer. Editing was crazy. You couldnt make something over night. Long kiss debate it. Who shot ya was recorded b4 Pac got shot. Thats a fact. Had to be there. And we dont give a fuck about protecting Big. Why would we care. Thats that mans business. If yall dudes that believing riding for a coast is the thing to do that buy into this shit. There were brooklyn dudes that were bigs people fucking with Pac. Smiff and Wesson. Thats a fact. And Tec is bigs man. If you dont know nyc before the early 2000s you dont get it. The industry, execs and shit hated on the west. Not the rappers. The dudes that wanted to maintain control. White and some black for sure. I didnt like Eazy rapping. You can tell he couldnt flow. My perspective. Didnt want them to lose though. 88 Im 13. 89 that shit is rocking in my high school. Dudes be on fantasy island having no context of the time and town theyre talking about. And nothing is 100. It damn sure wasnt the majority of the fans hating. Harlem loved NWA. Im from Brooklyn. The streets loved nwa.
These conversations are so needed...These conversations know it or not are giving Hip Hop direction...We have not gone full circle yet, we are just beginning to see the importance of the outcome of going in the wrong direction and to me this Show among the others are allowing us to get our stuff together as well as shedding light on our Greats and how to be better...Peace...Hip Hop has always been about putting your people on, I am all for the Female M.C but it's a bigger picture than being a Boss _itch life is full of stepping stones keep your feet moving on your Journey...No one has a 1 hitter quiter, you get Rich by having more than 1 income...
Rap music is a double-edged sword... Meaning there's a lot more going on behind the scenes... Many rappers (not all).. Was suing rappers that dis them.. ( defamation of character).. Which in turn destroyed their career and record sales.. So the smart rappers had to play it safe... And it wasn't the rapper's really pushing that it was their record label... Because it hurting their pockets more than the rapper's.. A dis is a dis period!!!.. But business is business.. And at the end of the day.. That's all it is... most consequences from this songs end up in the courtroom then on the streets..
@@meladgoat that’s the best thing you can come up with? Ghostwriter or not, most of these rappers stories are fake. You gotta know that. Maybe you’re a teenager. I don’t know…
best i could come up with? it's not me. and nope not a teenager, guess again. not sure what that has to do with anything tho. i was also agreeing with you but i guess that somehow went over your head or you just like to argue over nonsense. that's very teenager-like. Have Good day kid.@@don_fitzroyy9847
Real gangsters are usually not creative writers and musicians. Keeping it real is why rap sux. Id rather have a nerd pretender that makes good music and got bars
Maaaaaaaaan 🛑 the 🧢. EVERYBODY knows Biggie was dissing Tupac all over LAD. The Mad Rapper Skit, LKGN, YOURE NOBODY TIL SOMEBODY KILLS YOU, WHATS BEEF, PLAYA HATER ETC. Did he really think nobody knew what he was spitting on the radio in LA? Nobody wants to tell the truth(in my Funk Flex voice).
Here’s the issue I have with his “who is looking for life’s truths in entertainment” comment. I’m a 90’s baby grew up listening to Tribe called Quest, De la Soul, Naughty by nature and moved on the Nas, Big, Pac, Deathrow etc. Hip hop as a genre was marketed to the youth. As a 12 year old kid what these “entertainers” said in their song and growing up in North Philly I believed a lot of what they were saying. I saw the drugs, crime, shootouts and poverty but I also saw the fast cars, pretty women and money. As an adolescent with limited life experience it’s hard to determine what is truth. Therefore, it took a strong support system and moving to NJ around white people who had much more than me to realize rappers were entertainers. In conclusion, for every fortunate child like I was there are ten other children less fortunate than I who didn’t learn it’s entertainment until it was too late or they ended up in prison. Just my thoughts.
I don’t understand how yall glorify these rappers who portrayed negativity but then criticize the new generation for doing the same thing. It’s entertainment when it’s hov and them in the 80’s and 90’s but yall complain about drill rappers🤔 sounds like hypocrisy
Thats what D.Dot is saying. Alot of the backpack/underground artist didnt phuck with Biggie or Bad Boy like that b/c they was on that gangster & playa misogynist type shit. Remember him dissing Kwame. That's why he brought up the story of Talib Kweli. So no...not everyone was behind the commercial hip hop. A lot were against it back then and did speak out. Hip hop become too profitable and it wasnt about the culture anymore.
@@Boom38119 that’s fine and I agree I’m saying that people like Mecca who view the biggie and everyone from the 90’s era as “real hip hop” and like math said he’s a purist but Mecca and them will be the same one criticizing the music today drill as if it’s not gangster rap too
@@tonymontez2358 The criticizing from those people comes from the quality of the music being wack & not necessarily the subject matter of the music. A lot of the popular rappers from the 80's & 90's that glorified the negativity had mic skills & evolved into songwriters whereas a good majority of the modern popular rappers can't even pull off a 3 verse song with a rapping hook. And because that's never really explained, it's always gonna come off like an uninformed biased opinion to many.
@@Niwde8411 if that’s the case they sounds like they the old people like parents who say the music their kids listen to is wack or not good. Every generation says that about whatever the current music is their parents said the same thing about rap in 90’s just like the generation before said the same about rocking roll etc etc.
@@tonymontez2358 The reason rap music is kind of exempt from that is because no other genre of music required mic skills in order to be accepted. It's the only genre where having a ghostwriter isn't respected even though it's now tolerated. When rappers from back then would be seen as sellin' out for making songs geared towards radio & the clubs, u never really heard anyone call them wack on the mic but rather the quality of songs that were being criticized. Rap was a skill that not everyone possessed & if u were accepted as nice, no one could ever take from that u regardless of where one's career ends up. Of course, there were exceptions to that but exceptions are never the norm. Nowadays, u don't have to be nice in order to get a deal & blow up. Just compare the quality of songs from drug dealer rappers from the mid-90's with the drug dealer rappers of the last 15 years. The subject matter is pretty much the same but more thought & effort is put into the actual songwriting back then versus now. But like I said before, an old head saying this type of shit without explaining it is always gonna come off biased.
Stop it biggie sneak diss pac the whole time . Pac knew biggie wasn't that nicca after he saw biggie was scared of Jimmy & jack & biggie didnt leave up what he rap
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Every Time😂😂😂
Nah facts🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just for that, get these Hoffa bars;..."Buss down rollie for the helluvit, my time to shine spotlights is my element."😁
Facts 😂😂😂
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Mecc be listening to respond like a mug 😂
The dot takes it of gods can die too I’m a real god shadows kilos ask Louis and Charles niggas with real shape shifting 1943 🤔 Blessing
Most of the lyrics that I still live by till today from Biggie weren't his ones pertaining to drug dealing anyway: "Stay far from timid, only make moves when your heart’s in it, and live the phrase ‘sky’s the limit.." "can't change the world unless we change ourselves" So how real his street life was didn't matter to me all that much
That credit dead it ya think a crack head paying ya back forget it!!!- ten crack commandments 😂😂😂
Agreed you take the good from the bad
I knew the D Dot Episode would be the best.... drop the full clip please
it's entertaining but he's lying in every clip
@@meladgoat The only thing I didnt agree with is the sneak dissing part...but what else you think he lying about?
@@meladgoat😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@joelmcleod6521everything
@@meladgoatHe lies about everything. He was in the skits doing all the lies.
Biggie sneak dissed his whole career
You must’ve been born in 96. Cause rap was metaphorical and about dissing and saying shit so you had to use your brain to figure out the bars. You peon
Facts. Bro had 2 albums, and both were loaded with sneak disses!
Big was just to clever,he could put them words together so subliminal was the way
Hov got dat from him lol sneaky assassins
I hate the way a lot of y’all interpret
I think this is surprisingly my favorite interview so far.
“When did we have to sneak diss…?” ALLLLL THE TIME!
word bro. 5 grown men in that room while he says that and not 1 of em says. so what was long kiss good night? embarassing.
@@meladgoat those who he was talking to, knew he was talking about them, that is not sneak. He just had a different way of articulating his offences. As for 'Long Kiss Goodnight', while I don't condone dissing the dead, BIG make it pretty clear who he is referencing and those (Death Row) he is referencing know it. BIG dissed everyone from NAS, Wu-tang members, and even his own labelmates, Faith Evans, THE LOX and Craig Mack. He even dissed DJ Premier on the track Premier produced for him. Just because he didn't spell it out, doesn't make it a sneak dis. Dissing anyone is easy, but when you put it in a way that they have to think about it and work it out, to me that makes even more infuriating to the recipient, sometime they were obvious and sometime they were subtle. It was a talent and it was on a level that many rappers can't reach. 'Hit em Up' was a diss track but I wouldn't say it displayed any kind of talent, would it have blown up if we didn't know who PAC was talking about?
@@DukeLemonadewhen u don’t direct it it’s a sneak diss made dissed jay platinum nun this that bar facts with no name to it big dissed many with no name to it so yea they did sneak diss subliminal what ever how can u down play hit em they was playing it in clubs on the east coast and overseas they play it n the club today u tryna down play things where the numbers show the impact foh u can’t create ya own narrative to things that actually happened u can interrupt them how I want but u not the pen behind the bars so u don’t know
Since when did subliminals become a sneak diss. That has always been a part of hip-hop. Among true lyricist
@@DukeLemonadeif Hit Em Up wasn’t requiring any talent, try to recreate it then. And try to do the Outro of that song exactly how Pac did. You can’t. Also the outro has a rhyming pattern ya’ll prolly missed since Pac was throwing it off the dome.
Just like ‘PAC definitely never sneak dissed. It says alot when Dot has to keep saying “we had tough guys too”😂😂
You don’t think they had tough guys? Are tough guys hard to find for dudes with a lot of money?
Deatbrow had people put down by the Bad Boy squad
That's why there no where to be found during the 96 vma awards. Soul train award incident got them shook.
East Coast rappers lived off sneak dissing in the 90's except Tim Dog. That's why Pac had to check all of them.
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When Jay said "I'm still spendin' money from '88" shhhhh.... that's a heavy ass bar. True or not. That's some slick shit
Jay was selling you dreams he never lived reasonable doubt.
@kutlomahole7301 Then how was he 5 million up when he drop Reasonable Doubt? How did he obtain that much money back in 96?
Fake
Mecca is the GOAT at hearing someone wrong, forming a response and telling that person "you said" and being incorrect at quoting the person. It always de rails good conversation on this show.
Every guest he talks their story formulating what he thinks the words they're about to say....
He’s a goofball
@@jamesanderson3913 you can see him squirming in the chair in all of these clips 😂
@@Craftmaster3 Facts bro! 😂😂 👍
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Nah niggas was saying “keep it real” and “this is my life on these records”. D Dot not being honest in this interview. Rappers in the 90s were definitely presenting themselves as authentic street dudes.
During that time NO bad boy artist dissing nobody. Foh. Cap n gown 🧢🎓
Biggie was always throwing subliminal shots 😂 If he was here, I don't think he would deny it
D Dot is full off it! They thought by settling for subliminal shots they could appear to be the good guys who didn't want trouble. Nobody told big hold up...this may get us in trouble and it sure did.
Rappers from everywhere do that
Interviews and songs. Bad boys are no saints. Plus, they deceived and painted deathrow as the villains
"Integrity in Journalism " 🤣 🤣 🤣 stop the bus, let me off.
Rappers in the 90's wasn't saying they were entertaining. They said they were keeping it real on records.
@@kharyvines6971 . I don't know how old you are. But in the 90's before there was an Internet that tells us everything. We really thought Ice Cube was a stone cold killer. You had to be there to understand
@@mistermay7986 Why? You didn't really listen to Cube. Cube NEVER killed people in first person on a record, EVER. He didnt do that Spice 1 kill'em up rap. He told stories & a lot them he talked about the consequences. He grew up in a reputable LA hood & his closest bodyguard is from that hood, but Cube never conflated his OWN street credibility with business. That is gangsta. Cats want people to crash out just to entertain them. If that is where you at ? Look at where Young Thug is today fighting for chance just to be free one day again.
The gangsta talk is real & thats why he is where is is today, 9 figure net worth with several businesses. That's gangsta, NY mob level gangsta. A lot of people think shooting somebody in a dice game outside a liquor store on side street is gangsta, nah that's a fool.
@@sunnyside9273 Gangsta Gangsta Cube lyrics
Here's a little somethin' 'bout a nigga like me
Never should've been let out the penititary
Ice Cube, would like to say
That I'm a crazy muthafucka from around the way
Since I was a youth, I smoked weed out
Now I'm the muthafucka that you read about
Takin' a life or two, that's what the hell I do
You don't like how I'm livin' well fuck you
This is a gang, and I'm in it
My man Dre'll fuck you up in a minute
@@sunnyside9273 . I rest my case
@@mistermay7986the rappers were just that convincing but at the end of the day ppl need to know it's music its entertainment and not follow what the music says. We need to live life for ourselves not for keeping it real in music lyrics
I love Notorious BIG but D Dot not keeping it a buck on BIG, because Biggie was the King of indirect sublinals, he would rarely ever say a direct diss, it was always indirect, and true hip hop heads now this!
Facts like nas and rae
@@pictureanthonyrollinthey did the same
It’s a New York thing. And New York will deny this. lol
@@xl576Rappers from everywhere do this
It's amazing how fools like this think they can throw rocks than hide in the bush like nobody's saw them. This is the naive way of thinking that got BIG killed. These fools like DDot and Puff made BIG feel safe not knowing who they was fking with. Subliminal sneak disses were a declaration of war! Especially when Puff is running his mouth at the end of a record. Ddot plays stupid and than stupid things happen smh
I agree to a point about Rapper's not living what they write, but some rapper's now days are either waiting for a court date or sitting in jail for living out what they spit, and the law is using their lyrics against them.
I respect mecca to the fullest. Stand ya ground baby
Biggie was the king of sneak dissing 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Nas
Wu tang
Jay z
Twista
Etc.... it was normal to use subliminals back in the day, it takes alot more talent to do subliminals than just say fuck you or i'm gonna kill you etc...
D Dot not keepin it real. Bad boy was definitely droppin disses at Pac/Death Row. What was “Long Kiss Goodnight” “who shot ya” Bad Boy was on some “throw rocks and his ya hand”type shit. There was obvious beef and hate between BB and DR. Puff and BIG were definitely taking shots on and off wax. Let’s keep it all the way 1000. Most of us were all there during those times and know the facts
Camp full of cowards
Mase and Puff dropped a sneak diss " Can't nobody hold me down "
All sneak disses
You absolutely did not listen to this interview in its entirety. There's a segment where he breaks down when " Who Shot Ya' " actually came out, immediately following with quotations and clarification of Biggie's verses that WERE actual shots at Pac. He kept it 💯
@brotherjayproductions5823 he keeping it 75 lol definitely not 100
Didn’t realize until just now that Two Kings and a Cipher was D-Dot’s group. They were more X-Clan conscious than Brand Nubian conscious
Nah. U mustve never heard to the east blackwards or One for all
This is the best interview I have ever heard in my life
This was a great clip only thing I don't like is that they wasn't allowing Mecca to make his point because Mecca I've realized is that he's a good listener.
Someone sees it
Good listeners>slick/fast /loud talkers
It’s when these rappers get in interviews and say they really live what they rap about. Until the artists are keeping it real while actively selling records and say it’s just entertainment, then it’s not the consumers fault to think the rappers are telling the truth.
Facts.
Then they swear up and down in interviews that this is reality.
And blame the kids when they believe them.
I have to agree
@@lovehate8286Im a parent. I'm responsible for what ideology my child is entertaining. If your child doesn't know what to believe, it's not some entertainer.
Bad Boy did a lot of sneak diss and subluminal. They didn't want the smoke. Ddot need to keep it 100. Pac had them shook, I don't buy that they wanted to keep the high road and not come down to their level.
Typical throw rocks & hide they hands
There was a time when what was labeled "back pack" was the mainstream and selling platinum. PE. KRS. Later, there was Tribe and De La. And the rappers that came from that got pushed to the underground because the labels wanted NWA energy which became industry standard. This is what caused rappers to say "yall not doing Hip Hop." And rapping for "entertainment" was stories about crime where it only affected REAL people in REAL life because they were trying to be REAL like the rappers. It not only got to a point where rappers started to REALLY die from there entertainment but now it got to the point where rappers are REALLY telling their crimes in their raps.
Now, because of this RICO, rappers want to walk back this real shit as entertainment. We all know Denzel isnt Lorenzo. These rappers want to method act and choose the convenient time to say it's onky entertainment.
Tie in the label to the RICO and all of this "real shit" goes away quick. Rap albums will begin to start off like Law and Order after that
But they did it anyways. B.I.G stayed with the subs be it steak and cheese or lyrics
Thank you D, these MCs ain't truthful about everything, it's entertainment
I can still hear "THE ART OF GETTING ROBBED" in his voice 😅
That is why alot of these rappers get got when they go other cities and sometimes, their own city.The robbers look at lit like, I live this , day in and day out, you rap about it and living in a mansion in the burbs.We call those ppl haters.I dont think they are haters.they are fucked up trying to figure it out and believe that these rappers are profiting off of their pain and they want their cut.
A lot are pure haters though. You can’t say nipseys killer had no hate. That boy was full of hate for a hood superstar.
THANK YOU BROTHER FOR EXPOSING THESE LIARS
Finally putting a face to the "Mad Rapper" after all these years hearing him is interesting to say the least! 🤯 lol
Uhhh that is not, I repeat is NOT the “Mad Rapper”…🤦🏾♂️
@@jaytwice5248 Huh???! Bro wtf are you talkin about?! D-Dot is "The Mad Rapper".. Are you really even serious here or just trolling?! 🤔🤔
D Dot skipped over it with that Talib story, but "Long Kiss Goodnight" was definitely full of subliminal disses towards Pac. From the 'Laugh Now Cry Later' and 'We Ain't Mad at Ya line' and some other shit. Plus the adlibs in the background from Puff saying "We ain't talking about no other rappers, we talking about YOU!!"
It’s sad that these New York ninjas still can’t admit that Long kiss goodnight was about Tupac they still find the need to do this in 2023 smh 🤦♂️
@@flygenyus2186 yeah biggie was pretty slick for doing that in LA at that particular time, he was pretty much dissing pac and the west coast at the same time which is one of the reasons I never felt sorry for what happened to him out there
Biggie was a MOVIE!
That beat on that intro is 🔥Fireworks
i don't care if the person really lives the lyrics or not, if i like the music i like the music
Some folks always make it seem like Biggie was an angel and was above sneaking dissing.
All of those sublinimal led to the birth of hit em up.
This is a good segment. Rap is an expression and as a art should be seen as such positive or negative. Taking an artform at face value however is counterproductive to its intent. Most rappers imo never claimed to be role models, they told stories intermixed with life experience on wax. If you took that as the genuine article of their life that's on the listener. Tbh most people don't know Sean Carter the man, we know jayz the artist and the persona he projects to a wide audience.
Sean Combs AND Carter STILL responsible for Diddy and Jay Z's BEHAVIOR though so
@@alanduff1054 of course, but a public persona is different then the whole person. I think it's difficult to suspend belief in folks persona because of their accessibility in the public eye. But we don't truly KNOW these men. Like anything in life you have to take any perspective with a grain of salt.
@@jman1562001Agreed but my intuition tells me BOTH dudes practice DARK behavior and what's done in the dark WILL be brought to the LIGHT during these PRECISE times
He talking about Rick Ross with the biggest drug dealer starting to rap lol
Nah that joint that played at the end is crazy 🔥🔥🔥
I'm so sick of the "bad boy victim" card always played. New York rappers loved subliminals back then and bad boy ran by the bad girl diddy was the queen of sneak disses. You forget biggie was on an LA radio station rapping long kiss good night 6 months after PAC died. Stop with the lies already.
Pac lied first. Pac lies caused his death and Biggie's death. You 2Pac groupies make up so many excuses for that dead ballerina its pathetic. You 2Pac fanboys act like Pac was an innocent bystander. FOH
The Roots with that song Never Do What They Do helped create the separation between the back packers and hustler rappers.
This is going to be a great interview
Oh shit hearing sons voice... Is that the mad rapper!? Lol wow
Yes. He did the mad rapper skits
What rapper lives what they rap about? Basically the ones who go to jail.
Not even them
I agree with D. Dot on the life truths line. All these rappers ain’t super drug dealing murderers. It’s entertainment. Not saying there isn’t any truth to their raps but these rappers weren’t Escobar or el chapo, freeway etc. but I disagree on the sneak dissing point. Big sneak dissed a lot of ppl
Only a fool would think they were in my opinion..they street reporters with a limited experience of the things they rap about but who better to tel the story,paint the picture than these artists who are from the streets and can put the words together in such a genius way
Salute to the one exact from bad boy that I have respect for DDOT AKA The Man rapper
Goodie Blow having Pawn shop nightmares............ Word I'm feeling that Math Hoffa
Good interview for my lunch break 😂 🙏
No matter where this POD goes....math music will NEVER be mainstream. Fuck Math for life!
Magnolia Slim, Soulja Slim to y'all rapped his life
I mean life is the motivation behind the music. That’s just how it is.
This drop the whole interview Math dam. Lol
'TELL'EM WHY U MAD SON' ..
Biggie and Talib BOTH Repped hip hop to the fullest
Dmx was really living what he was rapping
Cap 🧢
50 cent lived what he rapped about.
statement i belived was meaning currently and also to the degree they rappers be actn like they chapo... like no, only chapo was chapo
@@eastcoastpaper3862 Oh well if he meant currently then a lot of them Chicago rappers are definitely living what they rap about them Chicago rappers are different fr.
they arent rappers.They are street dudes who Rap about what they do.Big difference.@@legendary9689
Yea but 50 was no kingpin also. 50, Jay Z, Snoop, rapper Scarface, Fat Joe, T.I., Boosie, Master P, UGK, E-40, Eazy E, Ice T and others were hustlers who worked underneath the big well known gangstas. Those artists that I just named were not on any Freeway Ricky Ross or Harry O type level but those guys were getting their money and hustling for a few years in order to get their families out their neighborhoods. They took their own personal stories and mixed it in to create a movie for entertainment purpose.
@@SoulOfTheSouth You right 50 wasn’t kingpin level but he definitely was street boss level he rain his whole block and started his own street gang G-unit was a street gang way before a rap group alot of people don’t know this tho.50 was definitely more than just a hustler/drug dealer he was a gang leader/street boss.
DDOT you don't get truths from the music but this generation does look at it like that
Who lie more than a rapper? They literally get paid to lie to you!
Yall was sneak dissing. How many names did yall say. 🤔
They know the consequences had they diss pac head on.
Does anyone realize back in the 90s a song was recorded way b4 ir came out. Especially from a major. You make the song. Now you gotta line up all your promo. Radio stations, magazines etc. The process took way longer. Editing was crazy. You couldnt make something over night. Long kiss debate it. Who shot ya was recorded b4 Pac got shot. Thats a fact. Had to be there. And we dont give a fuck about protecting Big. Why would we care. Thats that mans business. If yall dudes that believing riding for a coast is the thing to do that buy into this shit. There were brooklyn dudes that were bigs people fucking with Pac. Smiff and Wesson. Thats a fact. And Tec is bigs man. If you dont know nyc before the early 2000s you dont get it. The industry, execs and shit hated on the west. Not the rappers. The dudes that wanted to maintain control. White and some black for sure. I didnt like Eazy rapping. You can tell he couldnt flow. My perspective. Didnt want them to lose though. 88 Im 13. 89 that shit is rocking in my high school. Dudes be on fantasy island having no context of the time and town theyre talking about. And nothing is 100. It damn sure wasnt the majority of the fans hating. Harlem loved NWA. Im from Brooklyn. The streets loved nwa.
These conversations are so needed...These conversations know it or not are giving Hip Hop direction...We have not gone full circle yet, we are just beginning to see the importance of the outcome of going in the wrong direction and to me this Show among the others are allowing us to get our stuff together as well as shedding light on our Greats and how to be better...Peace...Hip Hop has always been about putting your people on, I am all for the Female M.C but it's a bigger picture than being a Boss _itch life is full of stepping stones keep your feet moving on your Journey...No one has a 1 hitter quiter, you get Rich by having more than 1 income...
4:31 thank you, D-Dot
Integrity integrity🤣🤣🤣🤣
long kiss goodnight was sneak dissing
Is that the guy on the Dave East track? Lol “why you mad” or something like that
Rap music is a double-edged sword... Meaning there's a lot more going on behind the scenes... Many rappers (not all).. Was suing rappers that dis them.. ( defamation of character).. Which in turn destroyed their career and record sales.. So the smart rappers had to play it safe... And it wasn't the rapper's really pushing that it was their record label... Because it hurting their pockets more than the rapper's.. A dis is a dis period!!!.. But business is business.. And at the end of the day.. That's all it is... most consequences from this songs end up in the courtroom then on the streets..
Yeah right. They king of the sneak diss.
instead of 'My Expert Opinion', they should change the show's name to
'For Your Entertainment'. Cause this whole interview is CAP.
Big Facts 💯💯
Joey Crack done stirred up a hornets nest with saying his raps wasn’t real. It’s definitely time for HipHop to grow up and keep it really real.
of coarse his raps aren't real, they written by other people
@@meladgoat that’s the best thing you can come up with? Ghostwriter or not, most of these rappers stories are fake. You gotta know that. Maybe you’re a teenager. I don’t know…
best i could come up with? it's not me. and nope not a teenager, guess again. not sure what that has to do with anything tho. i was also agreeing with you but i guess that somehow went over your head or you just like to argue over nonsense. that's very teenager-like. Have Good day kid.@@don_fitzroyy9847
Crack has nothing to do with this video. You reaching stretch
fat joe avoiding indictments or any type of charges for his music
I performed at SOBs a few times 😂
Real gangsters are usually not creative writers and musicians. Keeping it real is why rap sux. Id rather have a nerd pretender that makes good music and got bars
Salute my brother 🙏🏾 💯
Failed El Chapo joke gave Dot da dodo face...lol
Maaaaaaaaan 🛑 the 🧢. EVERYBODY knows Biggie was dissing Tupac all over LAD. The Mad Rapper Skit, LKGN, YOURE NOBODY TIL SOMEBODY KILLS YOU, WHATS BEEF, PLAYA HATER ETC. Did he really think nobody knew what he was spitting on the radio in LA? Nobody wants to tell the truth(in my Funk Flex voice).
All rappers embellish. Always have.
"Integrity... Integrity " 🍳
Man told it as it is
Here’s the issue I have with his “who is looking for life’s truths in entertainment” comment.
I’m a 90’s baby grew up listening to Tribe called Quest, De la Soul, Naughty by nature and moved on the Nas, Big, Pac, Deathrow etc. Hip hop as a genre was marketed to the youth. As a 12 year old kid what these “entertainers” said in their song and growing up in North Philly I believed a lot of what they were saying.
I saw the drugs, crime, shootouts and poverty but I also saw the fast cars, pretty women and money. As an adolescent with limited life experience it’s hard to determine what is truth. Therefore, it took a strong support system and moving to NJ around white people who had much more than me to realize rappers were entertainers.
In conclusion, for every fortunate child like I was there are ten other children less fortunate than I who didn’t learn it’s entertainment until it was too late or they ended up in prison. Just my thoughts.
Math interview any and everybody. Since Angela Yee. Who is this dude, some regular Joe?
I don’t understand how yall glorify these rappers who portrayed negativity but then criticize the new generation for doing the same thing. It’s entertainment when it’s hov and them in the 80’s and 90’s but yall complain about drill rappers🤔 sounds like hypocrisy
Thats what D.Dot is saying. Alot of the backpack/underground artist didnt phuck with Biggie or Bad Boy like that b/c they was on that gangster & playa misogynist type shit. Remember him dissing Kwame. That's why he brought up the story of Talib Kweli. So no...not everyone was behind the commercial hip hop. A lot were against it back then and did speak out. Hip hop become too profitable and it wasnt about the culture anymore.
@@Boom38119 that’s fine and I agree I’m saying that people like Mecca who view the biggie and everyone from the 90’s era as “real hip hop” and like math said he’s a purist but Mecca and them will be the same one criticizing the music today drill as if it’s not gangster rap too
@@tonymontez2358 The criticizing from those people comes from the quality of the music being wack & not necessarily the subject matter of the music. A lot of the popular rappers from the 80's & 90's that glorified the negativity had mic skills & evolved into songwriters whereas a good majority of the modern popular rappers can't even pull off a 3 verse song with a rapping hook. And because that's never really explained, it's always gonna come off like an uninformed biased opinion to many.
@@Niwde8411 if that’s the case they sounds like they the old people like parents who say the music their kids listen to is wack or not good. Every generation says that about whatever the current music is their parents said the same thing about rap in 90’s just like the generation before said the same about rocking roll etc etc.
@@tonymontez2358 The reason rap music is kind of exempt from that is because no other genre of music required mic skills in order to be accepted. It's the only genre where having a ghostwriter isn't respected even though it's now tolerated. When rappers from back then would be seen as sellin' out for making songs geared towards radio & the clubs, u never really heard anyone call them wack on the mic but rather the quality of songs that were being criticized. Rap was a skill that not everyone possessed & if u were accepted as nice, no one could ever take from that u regardless of where one's career ends up. Of course, there were exceptions to that but exceptions are never the norm. Nowadays, u don't have to be nice in order to get a deal & blow up. Just compare the quality of songs from drug dealer rappers from the mid-90's with the drug dealer rappers of the last 15 years. The subject matter is pretty much the same but more thought & effort is put into the actual songwriting back then versus now. But like I said before, an old head saying this type of shit without explaining it is always gonna come off biased.
Y’all let them come to the awards in NY and didn’t shit stop cappin
😂😂😂i forgot about that ny hold this L😂😂😂
Facts, all of them were out of state when it happens. The soul train incident had bad boy shook.
I like this clip. Peace
D Dot real talk
Stop it biggie sneak diss pac the whole time . Pac knew biggie wasn't that nicca after he saw biggie was scared of Jimmy & jack & biggie didnt leave up what he rap
Ddot lying like a Mf. BIG was Sneak Dissing hella people
And he crossed the line when he dissed pac and freestyle his long goodnight in LA at a radio station.
It says a lot that Math laughs at the word Integrity and having it
Young dolf spit that truth so did gucci when he was living that life.its many more but it is a lot of frauds in the industry
"They love you underground then hate you cause now you're on
They wanna behead you the same day that they crown you on" - Kxng Crooked 2023
Idk, Mac Dre was rapping about robbing banks WHILE they was robbing banks.
And That’s why mfs are in court now fighting for their lives with their lyrics being used against them. Some rappers really live their raps.
I wonder if he’s taking a slight dig at Griselda? They rap like they’re still on the block
Haha the journalist Brotha his head was going somewhere deeper,Brotha is a deep thinker yo! ✊
Puffed sneaked dissed bending everybody on his label including d dot😂😂
Biggie, Big Pun, DMX, Big L & The LOX lived their lyrics I feel.
Notice how everyone stfu after he asked who’s living the rhymes? Lolololol. Then Mecca comes in with the rebuttal. Lol.
Bad boy wasn’t about dat! What did dey ever do dat was gangster?
Yet that's all they did 🙄🤣