How to fit Hinges, Handles, Locks and Latches to Doors.
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Good explanation of what can be a tricky job, Stuart. Pro chippie here, a few tips worth mentioning:
-If you have to cut down the height, do it from the bottom otherwise the top rail will look out of proportion. You only ever need to plane the top if the frame header is off level. If you have to go more than 25mm, plane the hardboard face off the wooden bar you've cut from the rail, then glue and clamp the bar back into the hollow gap.
-Hollow doors have "lock-block" of wood fitted in the core on one side, at handle height, which you can use to set your furniture. This will be indicated by the word "lock" on the top of the door. Put a bit of tape on the door at handle height, to remind you when you're fitting it.
-Normal screws are fine in the lock-block for long backplate handles, but always use through-bolts for round-rose handles.
-Couple of other ways to do the latch hole. One is to use a 22mm bit and square the top and bottom of the hole with a chisel. Easy with hollow core and engineered doors, a bit more work with solid doors. You can get away with a 25mm bit, but it's worth drilling a test hole on some scrap wood to check if the hole peeks out the sides. I find using a sharp forstner bit on the door edge first, with a pilot point to start, prevents any chip out or wandering. Once you've gone through the edge, you can blast it with a flat bit or auger bit. My only issue with drilling two holes is there's less wood to fix the latch faceplate, but whatever works, works!
Love the channel - every day's a school day! Cheers
Great comment
The technique for drilling the two holes side by side is just ingenious. I hope to remember that when I have to take this approach.
I just came here to say the same 😂
Learn something new everyday
I've like most put a 23mm hole in and square it off with a chisel. But got some doors to fit gonna give this a go.
Never seen anyone fit the hinges on the same side as the lock and handles before 😄
Great video Stuart! Some handy tips and tricks, awesome!
5:03 - Perhaps Stuart should have actually looked at the hinges in other people's homes. 😀
@@ptousig hahaha, lol 😄
Fantastic Stuart! Viewers, don’t try to drill the “through” holes for the handle with just one pass with a long drill bit. The chances that the far side hole will end up in the exact right spot are slim. Mark both sides carefully and do the holes one side at a time, testing after each hole.
Nice video Stuart.
There is a solution when you trim the door to far. You can take some of the cardboard out or push in. Then glue a wooden bar in. A bit work but it works.
When you had traditional wooden doors you generally had a 9" bottom rail , so the bottom hinge was kept above that , or you had the end grain of the Tennons !
I use painters tape on the doors when marking out lines so after drilling it can just be peeled off without leaving pencil marks or embossed lines.
Quite a few hollow doors I've fitted have a larger wooden block inside where the handle/lock will go. You can screw the handle directly into that if you have one. It's only on one side of the door though (and usually indicated with an arrow on the top of the door) so it's worth checking before you start fitting either latch or hinges.
A few "tradesmen" could do with watching this. (I'm looking at you Bovis!).
I like the idea of those through bolt jobs, I'm forever sticking matchsticks in my doors to give the little screws some bite as they are forever going loose!
I stopped using spade bits when I found Forstner bits, really good for drilling overlapping holes as well.
Yeah, spade bits are cheap, but not only are they more likely to slip into nearby holes, they can also lead to resonance and you end up with a hexagon instead of a circle. Forstner bits hold their position and the hole shape much better (at the cost of slightly more friction).
What no one told me was how much better the acoustics were in each room when you change hollow doors to solid ones. Noise doesn’t escape or enter the room so easily
When I size a hollow door, I always trim the top off and if it exposes the cardboard inside I take the door skin of the off cut then glue and clamp it back in.
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4:49 the old standard of 6 and 9 inches for the hinge locations in the door was to avoid the tenons on a traditional door as to avoid putting screws into and chiseling into end grain.
I think that it is also a "perspective" thing: when standing next to the door the distance between hinge and door bottom will seem smaller than it really is but will appear equal with the top hinge if spaced at 6 and 9 inches since your eyeline is closer to the top hinge. I hope that this makes sense!
Love that oval drilling technique, definitely using that next
Best D.I.Y channel on TH-cam....keep up the good work!!!
Handy tip for the latch hole drilling 😀
Excellent. Your videos are like having a big DIY book in video form. You do realise, Stuart, you're becoming the Barry Bucknell of UK TH-cam. Ha ha.
Your demonstration of all the work necessary was very useful in assuring me that I make the right decision to employ a professional carpenter/joiner to do such skilled tasks!
Here in Romania we have these cheap doors as well but they've got pine instead of MDF as backbone.
Thank you, I have to install a door and it will be very helpful. The effect of the hinges mounted on the same side of the lock for demonstration is very funny ^____^
Your presentation of stuff is just amazingly clear.
I have gained so much knowledge and gotten so much better well done.
I'm glad that I found this channel
Very good, thanks!
Another very interesting and informative video Stuart, Many Thanks.
The chain drilling technique is great!
I have watched door lock installation videos all week and this man is clearly a master craftsman. Techniques and tips in this video are unique and I have not seen them in other videos. Thank you 10/10 video.
Love the two holes thingy. Very clever. Cheers for sharing.
Great Stuart, well done!
Great video !! thanks
It be interesting to see you put same things but on solid wooden door and solid core doors, and how to also put on lock that’s required a key to lock it and open it ie external door or front door and how to replace chain on door (same side as hinges go) so the doors shut by themselves
Hinges are cut 6”, 9” or 10”,14” regarding foreshortening.
When you stand back they look equal.
An old architecture trick. 👍
Quite correct 👌
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You’re welcome.
Old school vs Festool. 😂
Great job 😃👍
Excellent video as usual Stuart well done
The hinge position is about perspective when you’re looking at the door hinges look the same
Great tips thank you. 👍
I am a DIYER but had to change 8 old doors to prefinished ones (24 hinges in total) - I already had a router so decided to buy Robin Clevett 76mm hinge jig. Saved me so much time and stress! I actually enjoyed it!
Been tempted by that jig for a while! Is it worth it?
@@sajulldin5147 I guess it depends how many hinges you need to do and what type of doors. In my case loads of hinges and finished doors that would have looked bad if my wood chiselling skills weren’t upto scratch. My doors were £200 each x 8 doors so spending £70 on a jig made sense
Easier to make your own jig at little or no cost if you're handy with a router.
@@RB-xg2vzTheir website says the 76mm jig is £28.50 ... What jig did you buy for £70?
@@chrisu5550 I think the jig is about £30, then you need the specific router bit which is about £20 and then postage. So let’s say £60 all in
Nice work, very useful 🇬🇧👍
Now I know how to fit the hinges, handles and locks. How about how to fit the door. Really enjoy the programs. 👍
It 6-9 inches for an interior door for an external door it’s 3-6-middle. For hinges. These spacing are for visual on internal but strength on external. You can use a trimming router for cutting out.
7 from the top 9 from the bottom, we won't fall out over an inch,but otherwise you are correct 😊
Great job Stuart
Those door handles with the circular mounts are a proper pain, especially when the supplied screws appear to be made from cheese and have points that have been deliberately blunted before packaging.
The handles need to be fitted with the through bolts supplied otherwise they will quickly become loose.
@edthompson9337 a lot of them were only supplied with crappy wee screws. I haven't fitted any of those for a while, precisely because of the crap screws, so I haven't seen any with through bolts.
@@mcdon2401 Fitted loads and never seen them without the through bolts, bit fiddly but hold well once in place.
Perfect timing Stuart as I'm about to tackle the horrendous door installs in my property... !
Wow, that was certainly worth watching.
I particularly like that trick with the depth stop on the router!
Thank you, Stuart.
Great video, and great timing as we've just started replacing all ours, only 14 doors to do! How about a video on replacing hinges etc on doors that already have them fitted, rather than new, we've found it quite challenging, but the drill bits you recommended along with gluing dowels into the existing holes has really helped. We could not find drop in replacements which has meant a LOT of work. BTW my son still talks about meeting you and having his photo taken at the NEC, thank you for being so welcoming 😄
very good sir. Much appreciated Teach. Given me confidence and motivation to 'give it a crack' 🙂
Great upload. Very useful solution for drilling side by side for the slot.
I had to chuckle. Our house was struck by a cyclone many years ago. The top part of the house was lifted up and skewed slightly. The house itself is not completely square, including the door frames (metal). Despite this, the house itself has been brought up to code and is completely livable. It reains however, an oddity, but we love it
Some great tips there, on how to.... Thank you.
You are an absolute genius. I've just found your channel and cheesed off that I've not seen you before cos I might have saved some money😂. Subscribed straight away. The tip re using spade bits side by side is something I've never seen before, and really changes the game. Thanks 👍
I'm now gonna binge watch 😂
Great video thanks for the tips especially multi hole with spade bit, how much grief will that stop.
Great information Stuart, especially the double drilling, and as always clearly explained. Thanks.
I have learned so much from your videos. Going to be using some of these techniques later today!
Great tips here from a pro
Brilliant lesson
Not sure why I watched this, as a carpenter, but still enjoyed it all the same
the 'oval' hole trick is great, thank you.
Great tips and hints as usual
I have just replaced handles for 11 doors inn my home after having the doors spray painted. Put on exactly the same handles for mine which are solid wood. Wondered what ghe bolt things where for as there where no instructions in the boxes, off course i didn't need them. 😂
now just need to learn to hang it. thanks mate
Great video as always
Only discovered your site a couple of weeks back. Really enjoy it. Do a lot aroun d the house and this helps to reinforce what I do as well as teach me a few things I do not know. Very practical. From the other side of the world. N.Z.
Thanks Stuart, coincidentally I had to fit a new latch the day before this video popped up, I'm comfortable in doing these jobs (the old fashioned way) but it's always worth watching your videos for those little tips I might not have known.
The main take away for me is to avoid doors like that, we have similar faux panelled hollow doors but at least the timber edges are softwood and a decent thickness not 20mm MDF - those look a poor alternative to me !
That "bathroom" lockset is also about the same size as the old fashioned mortise locksets that take the old fashioned skeleton style keys. I've replaced several of those in my home as the old keys were long gone before I bought the place. Fortunately they still make the old style locksets so I only replaced the inner workings and left the original knobs and plates and now they're functional again as I have new skeleton style keys with the new locksets.
Perfect! 👍 Clear and informatieve as ever. I hope you will continue this for a very long time! I’m really hooked to this chanel. Although in Holland we do use somethimes different installation tools and methods, your channel is still very helpfull!
Lovely job
That was worth watching just for the tip about reversing the hinge for repeatability when marking out
Just note cheaper barrels don't have a through hole for the through bolts
Thank you. Very useful
excellent advice
My composite doors came with a note saying one side was specifically for hinges and the other side was for the lock so had a solid lock plate inside. Do they not do that now?
Thoroughly enjoy your videos. Thanks very much. Ps I clearly need to sharpen my chisels better 😂
Thanks Stuart for the really useful tips 😊
HI just looking at your door furniture install i am retired now due to sciatica the hollow doors have a block in the middles of the door to accept door furniture it normally tells you on the top of the door measure half way down magic..👌👌
the callipers made me laugh as I just watched your Temu video yesterday 🙂, brilliant as usual thx
Fantastic video i have metal door frames to make it a bit harder
As usual some useful tips 😀 Thanks
Amazing. Thanks for the tips!
Fab video. Thank you!
I would definitely reinforce / seal the routed / drilled MDF surface(s) by brushing them with a 50-50 water and PVA glue mix (and letting it dry). It makes it much harder and more resistant to moisture.
I suppose I just happened to luck out when installing door hardware in a solid door as I had a brace and bit that happened to be the perfect size hole for the handle hardware and then I just used a speed bit to make the hole for the latch and the corresponding hole for the striker plate's hole. I don't really even remember measuring anything, just eyeballing it and it worked fine. Of course it was for a simple bedroom door.
I did use a chisel for the hinges so they'd sit flush.
Can you do a follow-on video on fitting the door into a door frame please?.
Excellent
Hi Stuart. Its Purely aesthetic that the bottom hinge is 9"up. From our eyeliner it just looks right. A wall cupboard will have hinges equally spaced because that looks right from our eyeliner, if that makes any sense 😁
Found the through bolts invaluable when fixing handles on one of these "cardboard" doors.
If you update the video suggest you include some close ups of the holes you chopped out for door lock etc.
Great video Stuart, very useful and handy tip's . Those hollow doors are useless my Mum and Dad have got them up stairs in there house horrible to work with. Like all your video's good and useful Take care
The door will be fitted with a lock block halfway up one side of the door, which is normally noted on the door top edge. The lock must be fitted to this lock block as there will not be enough material elsewhere to get a fixing, this even applies to solid core doors that are most likely filled with chipboard.
It is worth noting that there are two different depths for latches and sash locks to accommodate knobs or levers. The 3" (76mm) latch is for knobs and 2 1/2" (63mm) for lever furniture. This is to ensure that you don't take the skin off your knuckles by using the shallow depth latch with knob furniture every time you open the door. Also, use knob/lever furniture with securing screws through to the spindle or through screws as suggested rather than relying on the face plate screws for high use or low grade construction doors.
Hi. Awesome content 👌. Really good professional ideas there. They work very well. Thank you for sharing. 👍
And if you have issues getting those through bolts to line up just use a plastic straw that goes through the hole to the other side and that gives them something to sit in while you line them up instead of the things falling into the void in the door.
Trust me, it saves hours of swearing trying to line the bloody things up.
As I found out to my cost, butchering in a bathroom door lock, chisels and drill bits need to be really sharp.
Genuine question not a comment on how it's done. Could you use the router to cut the holes for the latch? Instead of drilling all the holes?
stuart u missed out the multi lock front door mine is kaput and need replacing its a munster joinery lock
Very good albeit a bit confusing to a lot of people.
Unless I missed it did you mention that by looking at the top of the door it usually says lock block this side it was in fact, written on the first piece you tried off
very useful
The 6"/ 9" hinge position is so the hinges look evenly spaced from top and bottom, its because your eyes are closer to the top hinge than the bottom one.
A lot of chippies seem to fit three hinges now all equally spaced out when its a new door and frame.
Through bolts look brilliant.Are they available as exposed screws?
I wanted to see the bit fitted that catches the door snib. ours are rattly ! Brand new doors, brand new house, proper joiners, supposedly ! Door bumps in the wind.
Excellent as always, great tips! Are you going to do a companion video on fitting door frames next?
My favorite part is having the handle on the same edge as the hinge
Great video Stuart. May I ask why you weren't using a mask around drilling MDF?