Tyrion Lannister & Jorah Mormont Talk About Ancient Valyria | Game Of Thrones | Max
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- A nice history lesson from Tyrion. The HBO Original Series #GameOfThrones is streaming on Max.
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Imagine this from Tyrion's POV. We as viewers saw the dragons many times, but Tyrion was certain they were extinct no matter how much he wanted one. And to see one for real in a place like Valyria would be such a surreal moment.
And you forget he saw Drogon, not just any dragon
Drogon in the books was normal size, they oversized him in the show@@ieradossantos
@@ieradossantos I mean that's a given isn't it? Other two were chained at this time if i remember correctly.
It would seriously be the equivalent to someone today seeing a T. rex. Absolute incredible
@@OfficialFriendzone nah trex is old af , dragons extinct before ~150 years only
Love how they shot that. Both are surprised to see the Dragon but for 2 completely different reasons and both actors pull off the perfect look to represent each view point.
"A... A dragon...! A real dragon, they DO exist...!"
"Drogon...? *Alone?* ... Why isn't he with Daenerys?"
The way Jorah watched that dragon grow. Brings a tear to my eye.
Book: "Ser Jorah was not a handsome man."
HBO: "So we found this Iain guy. Real charming. Daddy af."
Yes Ser!
I love how it feels like a play. The theatrics and cadence. More of a grandiose act, almost shakespearesque, rather than just a TV production.
And Ramin's score has so much to do with it as well.
"How many centuries until we learn to build cities like this again?" Old Valyria in its golden age must have been grander than King's Landing. It's evidently an analog to Ancient Rome.
Not even Rome, the advance that they had and how tragically they disapeared is more of the Atlantis myth.
@@azigototot More like Pompeii
Every civilisation hits a peak but then they start commiting so much sin and atrocities. They get destriyed
We are the last one
Valyria is analogous to Babylon not Rome.
It's more of a reference to Atlantis and Babylon.
Just Max casually beginning to prepare us for the upcoming prequel show surrounding Aegon’s conquest of Westeros. If we are in fact to finally witness Balerion the Black Dread in the flesh, we’re going to need all the prep we can get.
Oh, we’re getting that, too?
Your right, but within the aegon show we will not see the doom of valyria, as the doom happens many years before even Aegons life time. I believe Danys the Dreamer which foresaw the doom is Aegon’s Great Grandmother.
@@aheinrich2535 did it happen in her lifetime?
@@kristinazubic9669 Yes, she was the one who, according to Targaryen lore and history, received the vision of the doom in a dream, and that's what allowed the Targaryens to escape in time towards Westeros and survive the Doom
“What hour is this?” he asked Moqorro. “That cannot be sunrise unless the east has moved. Why is the sky red?”
“The sky is always red above Valyria, Hugor Hill.”
A cold chill went down his back. “Are we close?”
“Closer than the crew would like,” Moqorro said in his deep voice.
What an actor this Dinklage is... wow... just wow...
This is one of the best and most peaceful scenes in GoT. Definitely my favorite scene. Good acting, amazing dialogue, the scenery, the music, Tyrion not being dumb but intelligent. And the dragons entrance. Love it.
One of my favorite scenes of all time on GoT. The pacing of the dialogue and action, the music, the history. It's all just beautiful!
This scene really represents the mystique of old GoT. Still cannot believe what this show could have been with a couple more seasons.
Look how amazed Tyrion is. He was just quoting poems about an ancient, long-gone world, and suddenly, surrounded by ruins, he has seen a living part of this ancient world in the sky.
Perfect scene.
The Hope of valerya
“What hour is this?” he asked Moqorro. “That cannot be sunrise unless the east has moved. Why is the sky red?”
“The sky is always red above Valyria, Hugor Hill.”
A cold chill went down his back. “Are we close?”
“Closer than the crew would like,” Moqorro said in his deep voice.
We have all seen it, no need for recap.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 There was an even lesser need for your comment.
@@saberathena468 I don't remember asking for yours either
1:29 I always imagined conversations of people in the Dark Ages seeing the ruins of the Roman Empire.
Worst thing is that many people in the middle age destroyed old Roman building just to build their houses, using is as simply quarry.
Its nicely portraited in the show Vikings where the English king ponders about Romans in similar way as Tyrion here.
Go read this part in the books if like that stuff.
this is what belisarius saw and felt when he saw Rome when he was reconquering the western half of the empire A man such as him felt amazed and sorrowful for the Eternal City was nothing more than an old ruin and barely half of it's population when it was its prime
Or america after the maga traitors bring about its ruin.
Jorah Mormont is amazed at how big Drogon has gotten since the last time he saw him. Valyria's destruction is inspired from Pompeii. Both gone by volcanos 🌋. The ppl there were so great at everything, as Tyrion said. Some say there was also magic too.
finally official from HBO and not lower quality from other users. This one scene with the dragon, his reaction and the beautiful musical score was sublime
2:50 As soon as this note plays, I realized how loyal I am to Queen Daenarys and her three dragons
Hands down of the best scenes in the show, all thanks to Peter Dinklage. The way his eyebrows recede at 2:47 when he sees Drogon - you feel that same disbelief, that existential sense of terror and wonder he must feel at seeing something so fantastical and seemingly extinct, right in front of him. "An almost religious awe", as Watchmen put it. The fact that they were in Valyria sealed it.
Despite a precipitous drop in quality, season 5 had some amazing moments.
yes! that season is the darkest of them all and in retrospect I respect it for it, but the drop in quality after season 4 is very noticeable.still miles ahead of seasons 7 n 8
5 years later and I still mourn Daenerys. She was so beautiful.
Yes, it was a travesty what the writers did to her character. However, we still have the beautiful Emilia Clarke to admire in other roles!
She was crazy dude, she killed all of those people, even her brother didn’t do anything as evil.
Simp
We all think we could've talked some sense into her in the Throne Room.
She have turned into hitl€r
The awe in Tyrion's eyes.
Imagine being a medieval peasant in the year 930 and seeing a B-2 Spirit Bomber fly over you
kinda. Dragons were nothing "new" to them. Plenty of skulls around the Red Keep. But a sight to behold for sure, more than that even.
In the book, what remains of Valyria is a smoldering archipelago that can be seen from miles away, like if the sun is rising in the middle of the night, and other than the madman Euron Greyjoy, none who venture there returned. This scene was actually set in the river Rhoine, the largest river in the known world and the country of the Rhoinars, the race some dornish descend from.
The place is a colony for those afflicted with greyscale, and is belived to have originated when the last rhoinar king put a curse on the valyrians before Nymeria set sail to Westeros, escaping with what was left of her people.
In the book, Tyrion is accompanied by Jon Cunnington, a Targaryen loyalist who is working with Varys to put on the throne a kid called Griff, who he believes to be the son of prince Raegar, but is foreshadowed he may be a farse
It's also not confirmed Euron ever sailed the Smoking Sea or if he's just boasting to make himself look more awesome.
@@mustlovebooknerd Someone had to, if Euron stole it or bought it, but someone had to sail there to get the Dragon Horn. That thing is too important to be with a valyrian family in Volantis, or Lis, or Ghys
So this isn’t actually Valyria, and what’s Drogon even doing in Valyria if it is?
@@AccountHolder007 not in the book it isn't. Drogon has never been to Valyria, unlike Balerion that was born there and stayed there for a year when he got the chance. The fire would still be too hot for Drogon to handle
@@danielnemesio3388 Well, I meant the show/video we’re in the comments of. Because what we see in the video doesn’t look like what I imagined the ruins of Valyria to be, and what was Drogon doing there?
It's so creepy and beautiful at the same time.
I have watched the entire Game of Thrones series three times.
Very excited to see what's next.
same here
If you have seen it three times, shouldn't you already know what happens next?
So, did you endure the horrid season 8 three times?
@@MrJabez89 the books are not finished yet
@@dictatoroblitorator1115 But the show is
Hopefully we’d see valryia on tv someday
I disagree. I like the mystery surrounding it. Better left to our own imagination
@@beckayshaw6083 Doom of Valyria show being worked on so welp for you
I've never understood why they don't send men to kill all of the stone men, and then begin exploring.
Only if they could arrange enough budget!
@@beckayshaw6083
Same
I don't want any shows about valyria and Ageon's Conquest
Hbo will ruin them
Daenerys' theme coming in as Drogon flies over omggg
This was a great part in the books. And they did it justice on the show.
its like completely different in the books
This made up world that GRRM has created feels so realistically beautiful that this scene actually feels like it's taking a walk through the history. Imagine the old valyria with dragons bigger than balerion the dread flying overhead.
Well you haven't read the book, because if you read them then you would've hated this scene
@@benbarberian1701 why would I hate it?
@@fayedunaway8Read them and then you'll know it. Oh and also take help from art faithful to book to visualise the grander scale in the books, from the artists who have worked on the ASOIAF calendar.
@@fayedunaway8Read them and then you'll know it. Oh and take help from art faithful to book to visualise the grander scale in the books, from the artists who made the ASOIAF calendar.
@@fayedunaway8 Read them and then you'll know it. Oh and take help from artists like ted nasmith, marc simonetti, and other ASOIAF calander artists faithful to book to visualise the grander scale in the books.
HBO should make at least a flashback of valyria before the doom .that would be very nice!!l
There is a prequel to Ice &Fire focusing on Valyria being produced.
@@datgrrl5698
Source ?
"How many centuries until we learn to build cities like this again?" Going back to this great line, I imagine that's what Germanic tribes echoed whenever they traveled through the ruins of the Roman Empire and they even attempted to maintain the ruins throughout the dark ages. Old Rome was the grandest city in Europe with a population of over a million people until the 19th century.
Came here to read the comments and the fellow fans didn't disappoint, not a bit! ♥️✌️
The reason Drogon big bigger than the other two, he was free for most of his life, and he was born with blood magic
Would be very good a show telling history of Valyria.
jorah is very stoic invididual
D&D just taking Chroyane/ The Bridge of Dream and saying, "This is Valyria" was the most infuriating and egregious thing they did prior to ... the entire last 2 seasons.
To explain if you didn't read the books, Valyria was a peninsula completely destroyed by massive volcanic eruptions, titanic earthquakes, and probably some form of dark magic/angry gods/Lovecraftian horrors. It's supposedly still erupting, which we don't know for sure since anyone who even gets close to where it used to be is never seen again, including one of Tyrion's uncles. Only one person ever returned from Valyria, a Targaryen princess who died a few hours later, consumed from the inside out by parasitic fire worm creatures with human faces. And she only made it back because she was riding the strongest, largest known dragon of all time, who was also horribly injured by...something.
This scene, while well done and roughly occurring the same in the books, takes place on a river in the middle of Essos, in the ruins of the cities of a people called the Rhoynar. They were destroyed by the Valyrians in a war long before the Doom of Valyria, and their Prince supposedly used magic to create the curse of greyscale as revenge. So substituting the "fire" apocalypse of the "fire" civilization for the "water" apocalypse of the "water" civilization is pretty non-sensical and pointless, and seems like a missed opportunity to keep the far more interesting actual fate of Valyria mysterious for perhaps later exploration.
babe it's very obviously done like this because such a scene would be too expensive to produce for just several minutes of the footage... pls think
I think this is a great example of how book purists can take their criticisms to the extreme. Is the post-Doom fate of Valyria relevant at all to the Game of Thrones television adaptation? I would argue it is not. The Doom occurred and wiped out the civilization and dragon rider families of Old Valyria. That much is known and relevant, as it indirectly led to the rise of the remaining dragon rider family, the Targaryans of Dragonstone. But whether the landscape of Valyria is uninhabitable or not is not relevant to the GoT story. TV adaptations are tricky. You cannot depict historical background and context in the same manner as you can in a book. It's often needed through character exposition which doesn't always feel genuine or organic. So, much of historical background and lore is left out in the television version. But with that said, for your average watcher, what is a more compelling scene, a boat journey through the lands of Rhoynar or an opportunity to show the far more relevant Valyria and provide some authentic feeling discussion of The Doom?
A fine and value added change from the books that makes sense for television without changing anything significant from the storyline. GoT failed at that many times in the later seasons, but this is not one of those failures.
@@raymaxxTV You're absolutely right! But they could have kept the Rhoynar river setting, instead of insisting for the scenes to take place in Old Valyria. Maybe talk about how Valyria completely destroyed Rhoynar by sending 300 dragons.
My point is they could've kept Valyria mysterious and talk about other stuff instead of going the low budget Old Valyria route ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@raymaxxTVYou didnt understand his comment babe, pls think.
@@chrisf7563 The world feels richer with more stuff in it.
The rhoynar are barely mentioned even though they had their own cool magic and war with the valyrian dragon riders. It feels cheap to just plaster valyria over every ruin in essos.
The actual history of that cursed river was far more rich than the show.
The actual state of old valyria is vastly more interesting and rich than the show.
Best duo in tv history IMO
This scene is better than whole HOTD
Couple things here - first, Jorah believes the dragon to be Drogon, but it may not be... it could well be a wild one. Secondly, during that brief shot at 2:40 you see what appear to be gargoyles along the wall. As we find out a moment later, though, these are the Stone Men waiting for the boat to pass under them.
Wild one ? so they aren t all dead by that point except the ones daenerys has ?
@@noxe6413 They are generally believed to be dead by the populace, but the books hinted that there may be a few wild ones still alive in what's left of Valyria.
Dam those first seasons were so great...I should watch it again, but it still hurts...
this scene is not from the first seasons man
2:30 i've watched this clip several times, but only today noticed you can see Drogon flying across in the bg between the outcrop where the Stone Man is sitting and the wall across the water
Its not there, its the video being poor quality.
Omg i noticed today after watching show 5 years ago 😂
He isnt there?…
That was Drogon right? I miss this show
It was Drogon. I miss it so much that I watch an episode or a scene from time to time.
@@smarandamaxim9290 i WAS A WILD RED DRAGON,
i miss when Game of Thrones was more dialogue than show
not just Tyrion, i though watched many dragon scenes before still get goosebumps seeing Drogon flying through Valyrian relics
Lots of Stone men lurking in the aqueduct like statues
Oh my god I miss this show
I always love the amazement of dragons in this show. They’re beautiful, intelligent and violent creatures and in this context no one has seen a dragon of drogon size in hundreds of years. That’s what makes it such a shame about what’s happening in house of the dragon because once the civil war is done the targaryens are just a shadow of their former strength becoming weaker and weaker.
And the sad part is, it's most likely that even if the Dance of Dragons never happened, the dragons would've died out anyway, since there WERE dragon eggs in existence after the war, but they never hatched or they hatched with major deformities and didn't live long. This is perhaps due to the lack of genetic diversity, since most of the Targaryen dragons descended from two dragons (Vhagar and Balerion) or possibly three depending on if Meraxes laid eggs before she and Queen Rhaenys (not to be confused with Princess Rhaenys from House of the Dragon) were killed in Dorne. It's possibly a metaphor for what would happen to the Targaryens eventually, since their line eventually ended due to incest-related madness and deformed stillbirths.
prime game of thrones was magic
This captivated my attention. I think I shall watch this one on MAX.
Reads like a bot comment
If Tyrion and Jorah had been paying more attention they would have noticed the Stone men crouching in the ruins.
Kinda distracted by a literal dragon flying overhead
Old Valyria looks like the Indian city of Benaras!
EPIC scene.
My God this was such an amazing tv show. Before that shamefully awful finale i would re binge the entire thing once a year. Maybe I'll start again including The prequel and just skip the GoT finale.
Nothing wrong with the last season. Pay more attention.
@@doublestrokeroll Everything was wrong with it.
Somehow the dwarf forgets all the things happened to him
Tyrion would have been the perfect thing to make Dany the real Mad Queen 💔😢
I know it's a prop but that sail is really bugging me. It's held to the mast at one sole point & it's VISIBLY flapping in the wind. How is it supposed to power the boat if it's just flapping about like a sheet drying in the wind?
Oh, To live in a reality where Dragons existed - I love watching their faces of sheer awe as Drogon flies overhead.
Tyrion was my absolute favorite character in GoT. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
*Sighs* Restarting Season 1 Episode 1 for the 25th time. 😅
That was drogon?
Sim, os outros dragões estavam presos em Mereen
@@donam4rlene Tyrion, who’s amazed by Drogon here, is the one who frees them ❤
I really thought Tyrion would end up being the third head of the dragon - Danny, Jon, and Tyrion.
This isn't Jon Connington.
Tyrion. i would clap.. lol. best movie character. always has a comeback
Second Worst character after bran the useless. "And who has a better story than bran the useless".
At 2:53 , you can see the stone man sitting at the upper left of the screen.
at 2:13 you can see the stone-men sitting at the top of the bridge thing! Look for the silhouettes of people standing/sitting I NEVER NOTICED BEFORE!!
I noticed it when I watched it originally, it is very clever the way it's done, so they would've been perfectly camoflauged (totally get why others wouldn't see it on that basis!)
Sacrilage of a scene, Valyria is still a haunted place, where there's a never ending storm boils the sea and nobody returns. The Smoking Sea, is actually a smoking sea, not some Mezoamerican looking ruin
Would be really interesting to see a brief flashback about Valyria's destruction in the show, if only for a few minutes.
But Im guessing that wont happen...
What season? Episode? Was this? I cant remember but now i want to watch it.
S5. Can’t remember which episode but probably like 4 or 5.
Is that Drogon or some other dragon. If it is drogon, what's it doing here in the old valyria?
Hola , yo pienso que no es Drogon si no un cuarto dragón
Doom and Darkness
How did Drogon get so big so fast compared to other dragons in the books and HOTD?
He was raised in the outside air, unlike the Targaryen dragons, most of whom were raised in the Dragonpit of King's Landing. Dragons who are older and/or are raised with open sky grow bigger than those who are younger and/or raised under a roof. And he's bigger than his siblings for the same reason I'm bigger than my sister. Accident of genetics.
something like the guy above me said but probably more a thing they did for the sake of it.Having bigger dragons it s just more epic and fun to watch.
One thing I don’t understand(been a while, might have just forgotten) is why did they even have to go through Valeria? it isn’t on the way to the Dathraki sea
so they can escape the pirates apparently.
It isn't on the way to the Dothraki Sea but remember Jorah though Dany was in Mereen, where he'd left her. And he didn't want to go around Valyria because of pirates. Kinda dumb though, considering in the books nobody who sails into the Smoking Sea of Old Valyria has never returned to tell the tale.
They always tell us Half truths in movies/shows. These two are Speaking of the Millennial Kingdom that LASTED a thousand years here on Earth. After His thousand Year Reign, Satan was loose to Deceive the whole world. When Tyrion says at the end " This is all that remains" a Dragon flys by over the Fallen Kingdom. aka meaning Satan is all that remains in this Little Season we are in. I can see stuff like this in movies and shows all the time.
Satan doesn't exist dear. And neither does your god.
~~~ HUMANS --- The pinnacle of creation until............ we weren't.......... The thirst for knowledge replaced by the thirst for gold.
You mean evolution, right?
@@benbarberian1701 Ask the robots of the future. If you can E -VOLVE you can DE-volve.............
Captain Friendzone
In spite of the ending to this series. When this show was good. It was really good. As the sisters like to say. "Shame.....Ding.....Shame"
I love to see a continuation of game of throne but they featured the old Valeria
_The Doom That Came to Valyria_
Season? Episode?
Uma das cenas mais linda de GOT 😍😍
My only hope is that Martin finishes his books. So we can have a proper ending. Please Gods.
Moments before disaster
It might be a decent scene (especially compared to later seasons), but its still pretty dumb. No sane person would travel through Valyria (definitely not on a boat), because every person who went on a quest into the smoking sea never came back. Except Euron probably, and Aerea with Balerion, though both died of whatever they had experienced there. So yeah, this really was the season where things started to go the wrong direction.
Isn’t the water around Valyrian supposed to be boiling
Yes, in the books only.
vhagar will eat that in single bite
GoT Season 5 Episode 5 Kill The Boy
This was such a disappointment even Ballerion was hurt in Valyria, but Drogon flys by like no problem. This should've been like the mines of Moria on a rive, darkness, and seeing odd things in the water and movement in the mist. So you had that haunting feeling.
Seeing a dragon would freak me the F out too 😅
Where are the fire wyrms?
Idk underground
One of the final great show-only scenes
Sigh…If only the producers of HOTD would have made this series instead of Dan & Dave. Can you imagine how epic this scene would be? Instead of being an amalgamation of different ASOIAF scenes, we’d actually get to see Tyrion visiting the ruined cities and the pink palace on the Rhoyne? If only…
I always read just how much everyone loves it, until the writing.......
Make one yourself
despite I have youtube premium I still expected at least 2 or 3 ads before the clip playing #trashservice
Stone man at 2:51
so there are other dragons at valiria
HBO releasing at right time of dance of dragons.
is this the same Alicent from HOTD? (i havent read the books)
this dragon is Drogon? or another dragon?
Who's that dragon???
I love Tyrion and people who compare the books to the TV show are just plain annoying. Nobody cares, it’s childish and pedantic. THIS IS A CLIP from the TV show
Then sk my lolipop.
Tywin looks like virat kohli
I'm starting to think I should read the book, but damn I like the show, if I read the book, I will hate the series
I started reading the books about a year or two after the series started off, and only just the other day did I finish the final fifth published book. Took me 12 years or so. I don't feel like the books made me hate the show at all. They are a nice addition to the show, giving the reader a lot more insight into this magical world of ice and fire. I believe that if you truly love the show you are going to miss out on A LOT if you never read the books. There is so much to discover by reading them. I love the books and the show equally, despite how much I hated how they executed that last season 8... Good luck to you my friend, no matter your decision :)
When the writing on GOT was still amazing--before it was all ruined in the last 2 seasons.
Third Series........Game of Thrones: Valyria
Yeah apparently they only need a small boat to naviagte valerya,
LoL
Why Valyrian ruins look like Indian