I've had 3 mini-vans, including one Honda and two Chrysler vans. We often like to use the entire space behind the front seats for tasks that involve transporting stuff from large to small. The Pacifica's "stow-n-go" second row seating storage feature is hands-down the thing that puts Chrysler over the Honda. Unless you NEVER want or need to remove the second row seats, get the Pacifica. It makes the vehicle much more practical and useful. Long range comfort is also much better in the Pacifica. You won't notice much difference when shopping at the dealership, but put your tush in the seat for a 2-hour trip and your backside will be thanking you for choosing the better seats found in Chrysler. Also, the electronics. MUCH more user friendly in the Pacifica! Lastly, everyone touts Honda's "reliability" as a deciding factor. I have never had any major issues with either brand and current modern technology, coupled with great warranties should belay any such concerns. Chrysler is undoubtedly the minivan to buy.
Great comparison. You were clearly not biased towards any van and you were cleared in your observations. Thanks. I just bought the Odyssey EL-X with DVD and Nav option. It is more loaded than the 2017 Elite option and it is for about the same price. I agree with you, "with Honda, there's honesty of engineering shining through." The reason we bought the Odyssey is because it is totally geared towards family traveling comfort. We were in the market to replace our '06 Odyssey with the Toyota Sequoia. After test driving the Sequoia, it just didn't feel like the right option for us; even though, it drove beautifully. One thing about the "Sport" mode in the Odyssey. I haven't tested it but, in the '06 you could lowered the gear to "3" in the shifter, this would be make the van be able to pick up much faster if I needed it. For me, this was great. I do travel down to Mexico once in a while, so, driving in two way roads is very common down there and I would need to pass cars as quickly as possible. I would move it to "3" and the van would just take off, I would make my move in no time. So, I think the "Sports" mode would be the equivalent. I am going down there in a few weeks and we'll see how it goes.
I actually prefer the looks of the Pacifica. And I definitely like the fact that the Chrysler Pacifica has stow n go seating for BOTH rows of rear seats. Honda only does one row. And I'm betting that the Honda Odyssey will cost a little more. BUT.....I'm planning a 6 month trip around the USA and Canada. I need a van that I can depend on. And the track record for reliability clearly favors Honda. So I will pay a little more for the Odyssey and I'll pull the middle row of seats out and store them in my garage while I'm on the road just for the peace of mind. .
Honda just recalled over 200,000 2018-2020 Odyssey's for electrical fires. So far 3 have been reported carching fire. Luckily no injuries. Honda's reliability has gone down the tubes the last 10 years.
The Pacifica might get some more love if Chrysler decided to add a class leading warranty to it. Something to try and get some customers back (reliability issues) even if it means eating the cost for the first few years. Shouldn't be a problem if they have faith in their new vehicle
Such a close call with this matchup. just turned 40, 2 kids, wife, and a dog. we love vans! Both vehicles have an installed vacuum cleaner he failed to mention. both have tons of power, both are luxurious. only the Pacifica is hybrid and also available awd. that's why this is so close, and a difficult choice on what is better. id say a dead tie. leaning towards the Honda simply for reliability, but yet my daily driver is a 2016 Chrysler 300S V6.
I have a Pacifica - and the difference for me is Stow and GO - when I need to carry some large things (Just bought a new Washer) - you just stow the second row - you don't have to remove them and find a place for them. And it will handle a few 4x8' plywood sheets with the rear hatch closed too. No other Mini-van has this feature and some Minivans do not even allow you to remove the second row seats.
Thommadura I have the 2016 Grand caravan and the stow and go is a great feature and I've had my van for about a year and a half and I've only had to replace a battery
roguedogx I think it's pretty likely. I mean, this is Dodge we're talking about. Look at the monsters Dodge has created lately. It's only a matter of time until Dodge slaps a Hellcat engine into a Dart. 😂
@@chriskrueger8225 can you add the link to that? Proof is always better than statements. I just can't seem to find anything on this despite my best efforts. But feel free to prove me wrong. I found it! Apparently the article stated that the third row wiring harness has the potential to catch fire. Model years 2018 through 2020 three vehicles caught fire. No one was hurt and the damage was minimal. I am not sure why they added the 2020 because they're not being sold with this problem. They are just recalling them for precautionary measures. It's always fun to prove yourself wrong. But honestly three vehicles out of 100,000 + does not constitute reliability issues and they stepped up to the plate and took care of it. My source Consumer Reports.
I hate how people just automatically judge a car because of its brand. Just because a brand that’s not known as the best doesn’t mean that every car they makes is gonna be shitty.
The Red Reviewer Exactly! They used to judge Kia & Hyundai ... Now Kia came out with the Stinger which is even beating Porsche, Audi & BMW. Give the Pacifica a chance because lately they’ve been putting out some great minivans. Honda is just the name nowadays since other manufacturers have caught up with the reliability.
I find it incredible that these minivans are turning in 7.5 second 0-60 times. The Pontiac Trans Ams from the 70's were doing that. You know, like the "Smokey and the Bandit" car.
Our Pacifica is too low to the ground. In 6 months of ownership, we had to repair/replace 2 bumpers and these computerized air shutters that break off when you scrape the front bumper. Cost us over $2000.00 to fix both times. This last time the shutter thing rubbed through the air conditioning condensor-we have no air conditioning. Don't buy if you live in a hilly area! Or get a lift kit for it!
I find it funny people think Hondas are reliable. My 06 odyssey has been nothing but a money pit. For a van that costs over 40k new, you would expect it to go longer than 140k before the transmission blows. I've looked at the newer models and they have all sorts of problems too, brakes and rotors going bad every 5k miles, engines using oil, etc. Honda doesn't hold a reliability factor for me anymore. The only thing Honda has going is resale, that's it. So I'll wait 5 years and see what problems the 2018 odyssey has, because it will have problems, they all do.
Danielle Weaver You might have gotten a lemon. Honda is still a reliable brand overall. They continue to top the reliability charts while FCA sits at the bottom. I’ll take the Honda all day. Even though Honda is a reliable brand they will have faulty products from time to time lol, that’s just the nature of the beast. Expecting every single Honda vehicle to be reliable is just silly.
The Odysseys that were made from 99-06 are known to have transmission problems. Sorry, you just got one from the bad years. On the other hand, Chrysler hasn't made a reliable car since the 80's so just keep that in mind when comparing the two
My Pacifica is my second Chrysler minivan. Never had a single issue with either one. The Pacifica is nothing like my Town & Country. So much better. Stow 'n Go alone is a reason to buy one.
So Honda flies you to Hawaii, gives you their current year top-of-the line model and generously allows you to compare it to Chrysler's last year mid-level model? And you act like you're actually doing any sort of legitimate review? No. The video is all over the place... you were showing Pacifica car parts while talking about the Honda. And you never gave a side-by-side comparison of cost and features for the cars so how are people even supposed to make a decision? Hint: If you actually compare them, it isn't just a matter of which badge you want on your car. This is absurd.
Will that Chrysler tranny last? I've never had a Chrysler or Dodge minivan that didn't have transmission problems starting around 60k miles. My '05 Town & Country had a "bump stop", a hard shift into first gear when the van slowed to a stop. Will the ZF 9-speed transmission in the current model Pacifica be trouble free?
The Chrysler hybrid uses the seat wells for batteries so it has regular second row seats, which I suppose move forward and flip and fold or come out like in a Sienna.
I bought my wife a 2018 Pacifica Touring Plus with S package. It's ocean blue with the 20 inch black wheels. Bought it 2 months ago. We absolutely love it. The interior is nice,and very spacious. It drives like a much smaller vehicle,and has plenty of power. It's my first Chrysler product. I had very bad luck with Toyota,so I didn't even consider the Sienna. After the issue my sister in law has had with her 2014 Accord,Honda was not even considered. I know it's still early,but this vehicle has changed my opinion of Chrysler.
the real question is, do you want a minivan you can drive for 200K miles and rarely need service or do you want a minivan you will trade-in just before the warranty runs out?
americantroy77 I think the Pacifica is really nice! The Honda is too, but I just don't have faith in the odyssey anymore. And Chrysler is cheaper to fix than Honda we have come to find out.
The pacifica is the only one with plugin hybrid which help a lot for errands and short trip around town. Also it 9k cheaper after rebate and incentives:)
I used to be a Honda man, and I haven't been in almost 10 years. They're very good, just a little blah. Competition has caught up. I actually had a Pacifica as a rental (Touring L) over last weekend, and I have to say, it was a stellar minivan. Highway fuel economy was good, the U connect was great, the steering was decent. I think out of these two, I would have the Pacifica on the looks alone
mini vans are incredible. I used to hate them just like any other guy. But our 2006 Dodge caravan was quiet and good MPG. The wife loved it with 3 boys. But these days the vans are built for a family culture that is having less kids and and population that is getting older which means that the demographics manufacturers are after is people that are retiring or in their fifties. these vans are easy to get into, they are comfortable and quiet and great for travel. They are also extremely durable. I had 2 Dodge caravans and both were low maintenance vehicles. It is not unusual to see these things for sale 10 years later with 300,000km's and more and can still do the same with maybe a transmission replacement, especially on a Honda.
No doubt Honda is a solidly built mini van but, it doesn't have nearly half the features I want that the Pacifica has starting with the stow and go seats.
I hate to say this, but I'm finding Roman's reviews to be some of the most useless reviews on the internet. He's the most wishy-washy reviewer that there is.
terrible conclusion....your decision is based on the whether you want a "honda badge" vs a "chrysler badge" on your car? So the reviewer saying that both cars are equal? waste of my time watching then.
I have had my 2018 Odyssey for less than a month and it has been in the shop for half the time. It has had radio problems since the day we got it. Honda tech support is working with my dealership to figure out the problem and after changing out the tuner for a new one with updated software, still broken. According to my service person, my Odyssey is not the only one having this problem.
The mere fact that the Honda 's seats does not have the ability to disappear in the the floor board like the Pacifica outlines the clear winner without a doubt. Its a good bet Honda will follow suit and have that option in the next round to compete.
The chrysler is better looking and the stow and go is AWESOME. perhaps the honda is more reliable and built better ( I am assuming ), but that stow and go is super sweet.
I like watching these reviews from Roman and Nathan and I've noticed that when Roman does any small task of hitting a button, switch or a dial, he sounds out of breath....Hope he's OK because I look forward to more reviews!
The first minivan ever is often attributed to the Chrysler corporation. However, this is not the case. The minivan was invented in 1935 by a man named William Stout. It was called the Scarab. The concept behind it was a theme of a truly "mobile office" -- a place where one could be driven and work at the same time with amenities on par with airliners of the time. However, only nine examples of the Scarab were ever produced, as it was considered to be too radical and "modern" for its time. After this, minivans took a long hiatus, with the next model appearing in 1950 in the form of the very popular Volkswagen Type 2, or micro-bus.
The Odyssey wins this for me. The Pacifica has nice features, but honestly, the second row seats are so uncomfortable compared to the Odyssey. It's because they need to be less cushioned to be able to 'stow n go'.Also the HondaVac is more powerful and the vac hose reaches all the way to the front passenger seats, unlike the Pacifica. BTW Honda was the first one to invent the vacuum.Also, I can't complain about the Chrysler's reliability yet, as it's just over a year old and no major complaints have been filed. But judging from FCA's history, the 200 sedan has been discontinued due to major faults with reliability and transmission. I can't buy a Pacifica knowing the reliability issues, because I want to feel safe and secure in my car. And Honda's past has been proving very reliable. I'll wait several months to see if the new 10-speed transmission has issues, since it's new. But Technically Honda has been better at executing new transmissions, including CVT's.The Cabinwatch feature is actually really handy to me! I can keep my eyes partly on the road while watching my children or backseat passengers. Styling is subjective but honestly from most angles, the Pacifica looks hideous to me. It looks way too ''playful''. The odyssey to me, looks refined, while not bland. The front end looks sharp too!
The 200 wasn't discontinued because of major faults with reliability and transmission. It was discontinued because it doesn't sell well. Same with the Dart. The first Cherokees with the 9-speed auto were the ones with poor reliability. Still it's always good to wait to see how a vehicle ages. Never good to be an early adopter on a new platform. They will always have reliability issues. What makes the 200 seem less reliable is how the reliability data is calculated. It isn't so much mechanical failures that cause reliability issues. It's mostly not knowing how to use a particular electronic and recalls. The 200 did a lot of early recalls to improve quality and comfort. Things like changing the shift timing, possible fitment issues, and patching software. These were recalls that most car manufacturers would never do on their vehicle unless the vehicle was shown to be unsafe.
Chrysler hit the jackpot with this new version of a mini van because Im seeing them everywhere I go and their pretty much eye catching unlike before. Seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on a Limited Pacifica.
I did, 2020 Pacifica limited white with white interior. I almost live in mine and the entertainment package is amazing. I've got a super Nintendo mini attached to it for lunchtime breaks. The vacuum is my favorite and is used quite often. Only downsides I've got with it fuel usage for commuting (went from 38mpg Fiat 124) is 19.4 and $30 every two weeks to fill up and the white interior collects skin oils VERY fast so I hope you like cleaning. Now both of these I knew beforehand, but my God are they worth the extra hassle for the amount of utility this van offers!
Interesting that they didn't show the 2018 or top of the line Pacifica. The rear stow seat on the Limited is automatic and so much easier to use than my friend's Honda. There are many other options in the Limited than the Touring.
I love your channel but don't understand why you would do a mashup video before a full detailed review of the Honda. The Pacifica has been reviewed to death at this point.
In a way, he really is right. Honda/Chrysler Vans are a matter of choice. They both have the same equipment but go about it different ways. I personally love luxury and tasteful interior and the Honda just didn't have it. The vacuum is my most used feature and the Chryslers is just a better performer. Ease of seat removal was second as I haul a lot of equipment (Army loves using folks trucks) so stow and go seats was an absolute winner. And finally, gimmicks. I like them, but I also like them to be smart. Honda's cabin talk and camera both got beat by a mirror and glazed soundproof glass. I have a simple mirror in the Chrysler to look back and the glass keeps the cabin so quiet, that I don't need to shout to be heard. So in all, I choose the Chrysler to be my mobile living room/do everything vehicle.
Have owned an Odyssey in the past. Performed well although there were a few things that were not good (cup holders were shit!). Now have a Pacifica and love it! It's a well designed minivan plus we have the additional safety features which are terrific! Plus it looks great. Odyssey looks very boxy.
Now that's what I call it a review. Thumbs up to you. I was a Honda Odyssey Fan but just got my wife the new Pacifica Stow N Go rocks. Chrysler better renew that patent. Lol.. I agree they are both very nice in their on ways. For me the Think grip on steering wheel on the pacifica along with the way it drives and the most important StowNgo seating. I had to get it. We love it. Entertainment on the back of the seats fully independent ( you forgot to mention) and it can be also controled by the captain or first officer( who ever that maybe) my girls Dig those Screens with full control they can watch what ever movie that they want. We love the quietness YEAHHHH!!! 👍 Chrysler did a Awesome job and we are enjoying it. By the way Honda Accord smashed Toyota Camry on my opinion but thats another comment for the other video with Andre..
It's funny Honda let you drive the FULLY LOADED version of their vehicle... And gave you the middle of the line Pacifica... We love our Pacifica Limited! With the S appearance package it's the coolest van on the road! 👍
I've owned both a Honda and a Chrysler. I will say that I am much more impressed with Honda. Much better warranty that is much less necessary (as they have a superior vehicle). The service was much better as well. It's Honda for me. I'll never own another Chrysler.
I've owned two Hondas and like them but the Pacifica is so much better looking in and out. Big panorama sunroof, Fold and stow which I would use often as I carry stuff. It's the Sienna or Pacifica for me. Gonna test out both. I think resale on Pacifica will be good maybe not Honda good but since it at least looks better it will hang in there. Only reasons I would consider Sienna is the dash, recliner second row, Sunroof opens , I like the interior and I know a 4'x8' sheet fits flat in cargo area. maybe it fits in Pacifica too but not sure.
Difference Number 1: Honda FAR has better Customer Service. They honor their warranties. Chrysler has HORRIBLE customer service and will NOT honor their warranty when a problem arises. Its a Chrysler so a problem WILL arise. Don't fall victim to Chrysler. A $17k mistake for me. Only choice in a minivan is either Toyota or Honda. Unless you don't like your money... then Chrysler is a sure bet to lose big.
Wouldn't be a good idea if the 2018 Odyssey gets the panoramic sunroof the same way how the Honda Pilot got it? They should've just put the middle seatbelt on the removable seat so it will have the capability of having panoramic sunroof
PUSH BUTTON TRANSMISSION WAS A CHRYSLER FIRST WAY BACK IN 50'S AND THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE 1960'S. THE 9 SPEED TRANSMISSION OR THE 10 SPEED TRANSMISSION, ONE GEAR DOSE NOT MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE. I WOULD SAY IN SOME WAYS THEY ARE EQUAL. THE CHRYSLER PACIFICA HAS A 60 THOUSAND MILE WARBITY AND IS EASIER TO GET IN OUT OF.
Stow N Go is one of the things that keep me the heck away from Chrysler/Dodge vans. Those seats are so compact and unsupportive that it is practically a chore to sit in it, where on the other side the Odyssey has large and beefy seats that can't fold down, but they are so supportive and comfortable that you feel like falling asleep in them. The only reason Stow N Go could be reasonable is if you are using it for a cargo van and minivan both regularly. If not, get more used to the dreaded "are we there yet", because more uncomfortable seats definitely increase that. Also, the Odyssey just has that expensive mature look to it. Also, last week the car show was in town and I tested both out and the feature that doesn't allow you to open the sliding door when the gas cap is open worked perfectly every time with the Odyssey, where with the Pacifica it was weird it the way that some times it would not work and other times it would start to open, then work half way before getting to the cap so half the time it was a 100% fail and other it was a 50% fail. Comfort, quality, and longevity/dependability = Honda Odyssey.
Not much of a comparison where it counts. Never mentioned the Odyssey price, MPG, HP, or TQ. Odyssey Elite: MSRP - 46,770 MPG - 19/28/22 HP - 280 TQ - 262 Redline RPM - 6800 Max TQ RPM - 4700 Pacifica Limited MSRP - 43,795 MPG - 18/28/22 HP - 287 TQ - 262 Redline RPM - 6000 Max TQ RPM - 4000 As noted in other comments, the Chrysler 3.6L V6 engine is bullet-proof. The lower redline RPM and lower Max TQ RPM contribute to this measurably; the engine does not work as hard to achieve the equivalent HP and TQ results. Not to mention, the Odyssey is not available in AWD, which aside from Honda's blurry logic for this glaring void, is a meaningful downside. AWD provides superior traction control and vehicle safety under all inclement road conditions, not just in "snowy Colorado". And the Pacifica Stow-N-Go seats make it a truly universal vehicle, not just for the average consumer but also for small-business activities, e.g., smaller scale product delivery and contractors. With the Stow-N-Go seats the variables of people and cargo combinations are beneficence too - 5 passengers and extra stuff, or 4 passengers and extra stuff, or 2 passengers and a lot of extra stuff. With the Odyssey I'm guessing the seats need to be removed to achieve equivalent real-world stowage space and that is rather inconvenient to say the least. In many cases it will take to persons to get that done. If the Pacifica could get at least 25MPG combined it would then truly be untouchable...for the near future anyway!
The Stow and go seats alone make the Pacifica better. The only reason Honda picked a Pacifica to compare it to is because they know its a threat. Notice how they didnt choose the Limited trim.... IMO, the Pacifica beats it in every way. To each his own though...
Why did Honda provide the top of line Elite to compare with the Touring plus-L from Chrysler? They should provide the top of the line limited model for the Pacifica for a fair comparison. What was Honda afraid of? I drove a Pacifica for 600 miles as a rental for a week. It was very nice to drive, quiet and the handling was pretty good comparing to my 08 Sienna. Pacifica also has the 360 camera on the limited model which I think it is a very important safety feature for a minivan; I am surprised Honda left out this feature for the new Odyssey. I actually like the Pacifica a lot but I do worry about the reliability issue with FCA product. The problem with the current model Sienna is the poor crash test rating and lack of a good driving safety system. OnceToyota redesign the Sienna in 2019-2020, I will check out all three of them and see which one is the going to be my next minivan.
We have a 2018 Pacifica. I never hated a car more. From the day we brought it home nothing but problems. Every time we go in the answer we get is a "software update" is needed. Currently in the shop for probably no exaggeration the 10th time not for routine maintenance. Guess what the answer we were given software update needed. 38 updates they say are required. The Van was in the shop 2 months ago because the battery went bad and locked the entire car up. Why weren't updates done then? We do all routine maintence as required. Issues we have had. 1. Back up camera computer system bad from purchase doesn't work half the time. Had to replace. I don't think warranty covered it. Not sure. 2. Start/stop assist quit working 3.transmission slips 4. Car loses power when accelerating randomly. Imagine pulling across traffic with your kids in the car and you almost get nailed. 5. Main battery ( i can kind of understand this one but car is 2 years old) $350. Tow $150 6. Auxiliary batteries to I think the start stop assist. $250 7. Sliding doors don't work right. Takes several tries to keep them closed. 8. Rough/erratic idle. Today $400 to update and replace fuel filters and some other stuff. We will be trading this car in ASAP. Worst car i have ever owned.
Going to purchase a mini van soon. I am a journeyman electrician who does a lot of side work and the stowed seating for all the seats on the Pacifica has me leaning that way.
As much time as you spent talking about quietness and refinement, you only directly compared the two on how they sounded when you floored them. Since most minivan drivers are going to spend 99.99% of their driving time NOT flooring their van, maybe you could have touched on the NVH during normal day to day driving scenarios instead? Especially since something like wide open throttle exhaust noise is often intentionally allowed to be sporty sounding.
Since yesterday, I have the Chrysler Pacifica S... And I love it. Ok, my wife loves it :-) But she allowes me to drive sometime :-) When I dont want to drive my '16 RAM... greetings from germany. I love TFL! You are great!!!
DON'T BUY A PACIFICA! If I can save one person from getting stuck with one of these my time is worth it. A warning to prospective buyers: I bought a 2018 Chrysler Pacifica with only 11,500 MI back in May. Since I purchased it the start-stop feature stopped working and the whole car just died at a stop. Got that battery replaced and automatic start stop still didn't work. Then a couple of months later I was driving on the freeway and the car started to stall and I couldn't control it as well. It had a warning alarm going off to service the power steering. I had the car fixed for that and then 2 weeks later I had the SAME problem plus like five other error codes such as service shifter, break not available, service electronic stability control etc. It won't drive. All Kia dealerships in my area are always backed up at least a week for service appointments (because they have so many problems) Most people don't have rental coverage and if they do they will not give you a rental until your appointment date so you do not have a car for over a week unless you are going to come out of pocket to rent one. I went on Chrysler Pacifica forums and saw all these problems people have with them such as not being able to turn off cruise control AT ALL when they are on the freeway and it even accelerating on its own or the car doing automatic emergency braking on it's own without cause on the freeway jeopardizing people's lives. So many complaints to the NHTSA. I'm considering selling the car now to CarMax and buying a different brand van. What's a shame is someone else is going to be stuck with this potentially unsafe and DEFINITELY unreliable car. I'm outside the California lemon law limits of 18 months or 18,000 miles so I can't go that route. This is just a huge headache! Save yourselves.
I've had 3 mini-vans, including one Honda and two Chrysler vans. We often like to use the entire space behind the front seats for tasks that involve transporting stuff from large to small. The Pacifica's "stow-n-go" second row seating storage feature is hands-down the thing that puts Chrysler over the Honda. Unless you NEVER want or need to remove the second row seats, get the Pacifica. It makes the vehicle much more practical and useful. Long range comfort is also much better in the Pacifica. You won't notice much difference when shopping at the dealership, but put your tush in the seat for a 2-hour trip and your backside will be thanking you for choosing the better seats found in Chrysler. Also, the electronics. MUCH more user friendly in the Pacifica! Lastly, everyone touts Honda's "reliability" as a deciding factor. I have never had any major issues with either brand and current modern technology, coupled with great warranties should belay any such concerns. Chrysler is undoubtedly the minivan to buy.
Great comparison. You were clearly not biased towards any van and you were cleared in your observations. Thanks.
I just bought the Odyssey EL-X with DVD and Nav option. It is more loaded than the 2017 Elite option and it is for about the same price. I agree with you, "with Honda, there's honesty of engineering shining through." The reason we bought the Odyssey is because it is totally geared towards family traveling comfort. We were in the market to replace our '06 Odyssey with the Toyota Sequoia. After test driving the Sequoia, it just didn't feel like the right option for us; even though, it drove beautifully.
One thing about the "Sport" mode in the Odyssey. I haven't tested it but, in the '06 you could lowered the gear to "3" in the shifter, this would be make the van be able to pick up much faster if I needed it. For me, this was great. I do travel down to Mexico once in a while, so, driving in two way roads is very common down there and I would need to pass cars as quickly as possible. I would move it to "3" and the van would just take off, I would make my move in no time. So, I think the "Sports" mode would be the equivalent. I am going down there in a few weeks and we'll see how it goes.
I want to love the Odyssey, but Pacifica wins this with features.
It has a lot better features but I just posted a comment above about why people should avoid pacificas like the plague.
Only 10% of ppl would choose all wheel drive but .001% would utilize paddle shifters. And that's being generous lol.
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I actually prefer the looks of the Pacifica. And I definitely like the fact that the Chrysler Pacifica has stow n go seating for BOTH rows of rear seats. Honda only does one row. And I'm betting that the Honda Odyssey will cost a little more. BUT.....I'm planning a 6 month trip around the USA and Canada. I need a van that I can depend on. And the track record for reliability clearly favors Honda. So I will pay a little more for the Odyssey and I'll pull the middle row of seats out and store them in my garage while I'm on the road just for the peace of mind. .
I never thought I'd like a Chrysler this much, especially a minivan.
Honda just recalled over 200,000 2018-2020 Odyssey's for electrical fires. So far 3 have been reported carching fire. Luckily no injuries. Honda's reliability has gone down the tubes the last 10 years.
Im going to be a savage and choose the Pacifica
The Pacifica might get some more love if Chrysler decided to add a class leading warranty to it. Something to try and get some customers back (reliability issues) even if it means eating the cost for the first few years. Shouldn't be a problem if they have faith in their new vehicle
Such a close call with this matchup. just turned 40, 2 kids, wife, and a dog. we love vans! Both vehicles have an installed vacuum cleaner he failed to mention. both have tons of power, both are luxurious. only the Pacifica is hybrid and also available awd. that's why this is so close, and a difficult choice on what is better. id say a dead tie. leaning towards the Honda simply for reliability, but yet my daily driver is a 2016 Chrysler 300S V6.
I have a Pacifica - and the difference for me is Stow and GO - when I need to carry some large things (Just bought a new Washer) - you just stow the second row - you don't have to remove them and find a place for them. And it will handle a few 4x8' plywood sheets with the rear hatch closed too. No other Mini-van has this feature and some Minivans do not even allow you to remove the second row seats.
Thommadura I have the 2016 Grand caravan and the stow and go is a great feature and I've had my van for about a year and a half and I've only had to replace a battery
Acuravigor47 i have the Pacifica trust it's awesome
I heard you can buy a lifetime warranty for the pacifica for least than $2000
No AWD in the Pacifica...yet, but then Hondas suck, so it doesn't matter.
Lol just wait till dodge throws a 707 hp engine in a minivan
RioLeo I'd probably buy one. 😂
RioLeo I actually would not completely throw out the idea of that happening.
roguedogx I think it's pretty likely. I mean, this is Dodge we're talking about. Look at the monsters Dodge has created lately. It's only a matter of time until Dodge slaps a Hellcat engine into a Dart. 😂
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I don't think that's likely as the production on the Dart (and 200) has ceased.
I like the Chrysler Pacifica's styling and interior more than the Odyssey.
Seats are more comfortable too.
And better at breaking down
@@varunbharthavarapu6144 yeah and the Honda Odyssey is better at catching fire. Three reported so far and I'm sure more to come. Honda is garbage!
@@chriskrueger8225 can you add the link to that? Proof is always better than statements. I just can't seem to find anything on this despite my best efforts. But feel free to prove me wrong.
I found it! Apparently the article stated that the third row wiring harness has the potential to catch fire. Model years 2018 through 2020 three vehicles caught fire. No one was hurt and the damage was minimal. I am not sure why they added the 2020 because they're not being sold with this problem. They are just recalling them for precautionary measures. It's always fun to prove yourself wrong. But honestly three vehicles out of 100,000 + does not constitute reliability issues and they stepped up to the plate and took care of it.
My source Consumer Reports.
Drove them both. The Honda is floaty while the Chrysler feels more planted.
I'll take the Odyssey!
I hate how people just automatically judge a car because of its brand. Just because a brand that’s not known as the best doesn’t mean that every car they makes is gonna be shitty.
The Red Reviewer Exactly! They used to judge Kia & Hyundai ... Now Kia came out with the Stinger which is even beating Porsche, Audi & BMW. Give the Pacifica a chance because lately they’ve been putting out some great minivans. Honda is just the name nowadays since other manufacturers have caught up with the reliability.
That may be true, but so far every Honda ever made has been a POS.
Build quality of Honda is so much better
That's why is ranked one off the worst when it comes to accident safety build.
Odyssey all the way if I was into vans
"frisky in the minivan... I'm talking about DRIVING"
haha that was good
Seriously 😒 Which ones right for you was answered by which badge you prefer??? Nice work 👎🏽
I find it incredible that these minivans are turning in 7.5 second 0-60 times. The Pontiac Trans Ams from the 70's were doing that. You know, like the "Smokey and the Bandit" car.
Our Pacifica is too low to the ground. In 6 months of ownership, we had to repair/replace 2 bumpers and these computerized air shutters that break off when you scrape the front bumper. Cost us over $2000.00 to fix both times. This last time the shutter thing rubbed through the air conditioning condensor-we have no air conditioning. Don't buy if you live in a hilly area! Or get a lift kit for it!
Today the Pacifica is rated No. 1 in Consumer Reports rankings. The Honda is rated much lower.
I find it funny people think Hondas are reliable. My 06 odyssey has been nothing but a money pit. For a van that costs over 40k new, you would expect it to go longer than 140k before the transmission blows. I've looked at the newer models and they have all sorts of problems too, brakes and rotors going bad every 5k miles, engines using oil, etc. Honda doesn't hold a reliability factor for me anymore. The only thing Honda has going is resale, that's it. So I'll wait 5 years and see what problems the 2018 odyssey has, because it will have problems, they all do.
Danielle Weaver You might have gotten a lemon. Honda is still a reliable brand overall. They continue to top the reliability charts while FCA sits at the bottom. I’ll take the Honda all day. Even though Honda is a reliable brand they will have faulty products from time to time lol, that’s just the nature of the beast. Expecting every single Honda vehicle to be reliable is just silly.
My 2004 neon, 2015 caravan, and 2017 journey were flawless. I expect my 2018 Pacifica will be just fine.
Danielle Weaver engines are supposed to use oil
The Odysseys that were made from 99-06 are known to have transmission problems. Sorry, you just got one from the bad years. On the other hand, Chrysler hasn't made a reliable car since the 80's so just keep that in mind when comparing the two
Buy used and it’s lemon.
My Pacifica is my second Chrysler minivan. Never had a single issue with either one. The Pacifica is nothing like my Town & Country. So much better. Stow 'n Go alone is a reason to buy one.
I really like Honda Odyssey and am planning to get one.
So Honda flies you to Hawaii, gives you their current year top-of-the line model and generously allows you to compare it to Chrysler's last year mid-level model? And you act like you're actually doing any sort of legitimate review? No. The video is all over the place... you were showing Pacifica car parts while talking about the Honda. And you never gave a side-by-side comparison of cost and features for the cars so how are people even supposed to make a decision? Hint: If you actually compare them, it isn't just a matter of which badge you want on your car. This is absurd.
2018 Dodge Grand Caravan. Cargo space. Wins every time. I'll be buying mine in a few months.
I'd take the Chrysler. No question.
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You will feel the depreciation so much faster than Honda.
Will that Chrysler tranny last? I've never had a Chrysler or Dodge minivan that didn't have transmission problems starting around 60k miles. My '05 Town & Country had a "bump stop", a hard shift into first gear when the van slowed to a stop. Will the ZF 9-speed transmission in the current model Pacifica be trouble free?
Be rdy to buy another van soon
The Chrysler hybrid uses the seat wells for batteries so it has regular second row seats, which I suppose move forward and flip and fold or come out like in a Sienna.
2018 Pacifica Hybrid Limited, The best mini-van!
Honda all the way. No question.
I bought my wife a 2018 Pacifica Touring Plus with S package. It's ocean blue with the 20 inch black wheels. Bought it 2 months ago. We absolutely love it. The interior is nice,and very spacious. It drives like a much smaller vehicle,and has plenty of power. It's my first Chrysler product. I had very bad luck with Toyota,so I didn't even consider the Sienna. After the issue my sister in law has had with her 2014 Accord,Honda was not even considered. I know it's still early,but this vehicle has changed my opinion of Chrysler.
chris krueger How’s the Pacifica holding up?
@@F2FTech absolutely fantastic!
VANS FOR THE WIN 🤢🤮
I can’t believe I’m at a point in my life where I am watching this for consideration.
I just joined the club..
@@nnamdinwandu6405 same here
Likewise.....
Damn I'm here too🤣
I have a pacifica hybrid. Best driving van ever.
the real question is, do you want a minivan you can drive for 200K miles and rarely need service or do you want a minivan you will trade-in just before the warranty runs out?
ScooniePenn10 My Odyssey stays in the shop
Hondas have great engines. Very reliable and long lasting
americantroy77 mine too! We have it parked in the garage because it's too expensive to fix!
Danielle Weaver we actually traded ours in for the Pacifica last month.
americantroy77 I think the Pacifica is really nice! The Honda is too, but I just don't have faith in the odyssey anymore. And Chrysler is cheaper to fix than Honda we have come to find out.
I love ❤️ Hondas but I think the Pacifica win this battle!!!!!
I will go for odyssey
The Pacifica is my favorite I love the inside
The pacifica is the only one with plugin hybrid which help a lot for errands and short trip around town. Also it 9k cheaper after rebate and incentives:)
I appreciate the "full disclosure videos" keeping it honest is always a plus for watching youtube videos
Driving minivans on the Big Island, sounds like something i could get used to. XD
I love the feature of Pacifica but I'd rather choose Honda.
I can already see it now *The 2018 Chrysler Pacifica SRT Demon*
Pacifica is one of the best vehicles I’ve ever driven. Impressive for a mini van.
I used to be a Honda man, and I haven't been in almost 10 years. They're very good, just a little blah. Competition has caught up. I actually had a Pacifica as a rental (Touring L) over last weekend, and I have to say, it was a stellar minivan. Highway fuel economy was good, the U connect was great, the steering was decent. I think out of these two, I would have the Pacifica on the looks alone
He went back and forth so much I couldn't tell if he was talking about the car he was driving or what.
mini vans are incredible. I used to hate them just like any other guy. But our 2006 Dodge caravan was quiet and good MPG. The wife loved it with 3 boys. But these days the vans are built for a family culture that is having less kids and and population that is getting older which means that the demographics manufacturers are after is people that are retiring or in their fifties. these vans are easy to get into, they are comfortable and quiet and great for travel. They are also extremely durable. I had 2 Dodge caravans and both were low maintenance vehicles. It is not unusual to see these things for sale 10 years later with 300,000km's and more and can still do the same with maybe a transmission replacement, especially on a Honda.
No doubt Honda is a solidly built mini van but, it doesn't have nearly half the features I want that the Pacifica has starting with the stow and go seats.
*Goes to adjust volume* *puts car into reverse on the freeway*
you probably think it's so funny? pathetic
Stow and Go seats are a great idea, but have you ever sat in them? Maybe they're OK for kids, but not for adults.
The new Sto-N-Go seats are as comfortable as any and give the van a cargo advantage like no other!
I hate to say this, but I'm finding Roman's reviews to be some of the most useless reviews on the internet. He's the most wishy-washy reviewer that there is.
I have to agree. Very seldom is there a clear cut winner chosen. I hate to get to the end of a review and not get an opinion.
senorgato70 Very True! Hence Honda Flew him out and hotel accommodation. Whomever footed the bill . " You're Car is the Winner"!
look, he prefers the Pacifica, but Honda paid, so what is he supposed to do???
I feel the same way.
I also feel the same...comes down to which badge you prefer?? Lol . Also hybrid vs 10speed ...come on
terrible conclusion....your decision is based on the whether you want a "honda badge" vs a "chrysler badge" on your car? So the reviewer saying that both cars are equal? waste of my time watching then.
I have had my 2018 Odyssey for less than a month and it has been in the shop for half the time. It has had radio problems since the day we got it. Honda tech support is working with my dealership to figure out the problem and after changing out the tuner for a new one with updated software, still broken. According to my service person, my Odyssey is not the only one having this problem.
The problem is that it's a Honda, that can't be fixed. Sorry you got suckered into buying one.
The mere fact that the Honda 's seats does not have the ability to disappear in the the floor board like the Pacifica outlines the clear winner without a doubt. Its a good bet Honda will follow suit and have that option in the next round to compete.
The chrysler is better looking and the stow and go is AWESOME. perhaps the honda is more reliable and built better ( I am assuming ), but that stow and go is super sweet.
The seat is so great designing!
Honda is #1 the odyssey is a van that you can trust. And it is very comfortable when going on road trips.
There are many machinist shop owners, they and their families drive TOYOTA or Honda.
I hope everyone knows Why.
cause they don't like driving
I like watching these reviews from Roman and Nathan and I've noticed that when Roman does any small task of hitting a button, switch or a dial, he sounds out of breath....Hope he's OK because I look forward to more reviews!
I just noticed this too and i am very worried...is he still very much around?
The first minivan ever is often attributed to the Chrysler corporation. However, this is not the case. The minivan was invented in 1935 by a man named William Stout. It was called the Scarab. The concept behind it was a theme of a truly "mobile office" -- a place where one could be driven and work at the same time with amenities on par with airliners of the time. However, only nine examples of the Scarab were ever produced, as it was considered to be too radical and "modern" for its time. After this, minivans took a long hiatus, with the next model appearing in 1950 in the form of the very popular Volkswagen Type 2, or micro-bus.
The Odyssey wins this for me. The Pacifica has nice features, but honestly, the second row seats are so uncomfortable compared to the Odyssey. It's because they need to be less cushioned to be able to 'stow n go'.Also the HondaVac is more powerful and the vac hose reaches all the way to the front passenger seats, unlike the Pacifica. BTW Honda was the first one to invent the vacuum.Also, I can't complain about the Chrysler's reliability yet, as it's just over a year old and no major complaints have been filed. But judging from FCA's history, the 200 sedan has been discontinued due to major faults with reliability and transmission. I can't buy a Pacifica knowing the reliability issues, because I want to feel safe and secure in my car. And Honda's past has been proving very reliable. I'll wait several months to see if the new 10-speed transmission has issues, since it's new. But Technically Honda has been better at executing new transmissions, including CVT's.The Cabinwatch feature is actually really handy to me! I can keep my eyes partly on the road while watching my children or backseat passengers. Styling is subjective but honestly from most angles, the Pacifica looks hideous to me. It looks way too ''playful''. The odyssey to me, looks refined, while not bland. The front end looks sharp too!
The 200 wasn't discontinued because of major faults with reliability and transmission. It was discontinued because it doesn't sell well. Same with the Dart. The first Cherokees with the 9-speed auto were the ones with poor reliability. Still it's always good to wait to see how a vehicle ages. Never good to be an early adopter on a new platform. They will always have reliability issues.
What makes the 200 seem less reliable is how the reliability data is calculated. It isn't so much mechanical failures that cause reliability issues. It's mostly not knowing how to use a particular electronic and recalls. The 200 did a lot of early recalls to improve quality and comfort. Things like changing the shift timing, possible fitment issues, and patching software. These were recalls that most car manufacturers would never do on their vehicle unless the vehicle was shown to be unsafe.
Ive sold both vehicles. The Chrysler Pacifica Limited is the best luxury van on the road today for many reasons.
Joe Pinto what reasons? We're between the two and can't decide.
I prefer Honda because of the luxurious interior and outstanding features. Kids are going to like it!
Who cares about the kids? They aren't driving it, or paying for it.
Chrysler hit the jackpot with this new version of a mini van because Im seeing them everywhere I go and their pretty much eye catching unlike before. Seriously thinking of pulling the trigger on a Limited Pacifica.
I did, 2020 Pacifica limited white with white interior.
I almost live in mine and the entertainment package is amazing. I've got a super Nintendo mini attached to it for lunchtime breaks.
The vacuum is my favorite and is used quite often.
Only downsides I've got with it fuel usage for commuting (went from 38mpg Fiat 124) is 19.4 and $30 every two weeks to fill up and the white interior collects skin oils VERY fast so I hope you like cleaning.
Now both of these I knew beforehand, but my God are they worth the extra hassle for the amount of utility this van offers!
Dude if you was filming this yourself then disregard ma comment. If this is the work of a professional cameraman fire him.
The Oddball is not the best selling minivan, the Dodge Grand Caravan is. Combine it with the Pacifica and FCA owns about half of the minivan market.
Basically do you want to spend all your vacation money on repairs or do you want your minivan to actually work?
Interesting that they didn't show the 2018 or top of the line Pacifica. The rear stow seat on the Limited is automatic and so much easier to use than my friend's Honda. There are many other options in the Limited than the Touring.
Honda only
I love your channel but don't understand why you would do a mashup video before a full detailed review of the Honda. The Pacifica has been reviewed to death at this point.
Honda vs. Chrysler? Just on reliability alone, it seems like an easy answer.
In a way, he really is right. Honda/Chrysler Vans are a matter of choice. They both have the same equipment but go about it different ways.
I personally love luxury and tasteful interior and the Honda just didn't have it.
The vacuum is my most used feature and the Chryslers is just a better performer.
Ease of seat removal was second as I haul a lot of equipment (Army loves using folks trucks) so stow and go seats was an absolute winner.
And finally, gimmicks. I like them, but I also like them to be smart. Honda's cabin talk and camera both got beat by a mirror and glazed soundproof glass. I have a simple mirror in the Chrysler to look back and the glass keeps the cabin so quiet, that I don't need to shout to be heard.
So in all, I choose the Chrysler to be my mobile living room/do everything vehicle.
Have owned an Odyssey in the past. Performed well although there were a few things that were not good (cup holders were shit!). Now have a Pacifica and love it! It's a well designed minivan plus we have the additional safety features which are terrific! Plus it looks great. Odyssey looks very boxy.
Now that's what I call it a review. Thumbs up to you. I was a Honda Odyssey Fan but just got my wife the new Pacifica Stow N Go rocks. Chrysler better renew that patent. Lol.. I agree they are both very nice in their on ways. For me the Think grip on steering wheel on the pacifica along with the way it drives and the most important StowNgo seating. I had to get it. We love it.
Entertainment on the back of the seats fully independent ( you forgot to mention) and it can be also controled by the captain or first officer( who ever that maybe) my girls Dig those Screens with full control they can watch what ever movie that they want. We love the quietness YEAHHHH!!! 👍 Chrysler did a Awesome job and we are enjoying it. By the way Honda Accord smashed Toyota Camry on my opinion but thats another comment for the other video with Andre..
It's funny Honda let you drive the FULLY LOADED version of their vehicle... And gave you the middle of the line Pacifica... We love our Pacifica Limited! With the S appearance package it's the coolest van on the road! 👍
I’m picking mine up this weekend. Pacifica Limited with the S package.
Great Review. Chrysler Pacific for me :)
Sport mode is useful for downshifting in the mountains.
I've owned both a Honda and a Chrysler. I will say that I am much more impressed with Honda. Much better warranty that is much less necessary (as they have a superior vehicle). The service was much better as well. It's Honda for me. I'll never own another Chrysler.
I've owned two Hondas and like them but the Pacifica is so much better looking in and out. Big panorama sunroof, Fold and stow which I would use often as I carry stuff. It's the Sienna or Pacifica for me. Gonna test out both. I think resale on Pacifica will be good maybe not Honda good but since it at least looks better it will hang in there. Only reasons I would consider Sienna is the dash, recliner second row, Sunroof opens , I like the interior and I know a 4'x8' sheet fits flat in cargo area. maybe it fits in Pacifica too but not sure.
Eric O from Soth main Auto did a video where the seat belt bolt was screwed in only few threads. Plus every FCA part is made in China.
Difference Number 1: Honda FAR has better Customer Service. They honor their warranties. Chrysler has HORRIBLE customer service and will NOT honor their warranty when a problem arises. Its a Chrysler so a problem WILL arise. Don't fall victim to Chrysler. A $17k mistake for me. Only choice in a minivan is either Toyota or Honda. Unless you don't like your money... then Chrysler is a sure bet to lose big.
So here is a good questions. Who would stand tall in reliability and maintenance in 5 years and 60 thousand miles. Recalls? That is my concern.
Wouldn't be a good idea if the 2018 Odyssey gets the panoramic sunroof the same way how the Honda Pilot got it? They should've just put the middle seatbelt on the removable seat so it will have the capability of having panoramic sunroof
I like the Honda
Never ever thought I would love Pacifica, no wonder it’s way way better than Odyssey.
I like the Odyssey more, and it has more tech. It is also a Honda not a Chrysler so it's extremly reliable.
gotta go for the Honda Odyssey it's the best
Kazuki Kisaragi but why is it the best because your a fan boy or what you have to give a reason
PUSH BUTTON TRANSMISSION WAS A CHRYSLER FIRST WAY BACK IN 50'S AND THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF THE 1960'S. THE 9 SPEED TRANSMISSION OR THE 10 SPEED TRANSMISSION, ONE GEAR DOSE NOT MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE. I WOULD SAY IN SOME WAYS THEY ARE EQUAL. THE CHRYSLER PACIFICA HAS A 60 THOUSAND MILE WARBITY AND IS EASIER TO GET IN OUT OF.
Make a minivan mash up for all minivans available, that will be wonderful!!!
This is an easy choice. Which would you rather own in 10 years...
Stow N Go is one of the things that keep me the heck away from Chrysler/Dodge vans. Those seats are so compact and unsupportive that it is practically a chore to sit in it, where on the other side the Odyssey has large and beefy seats that can't fold down, but they are so supportive and comfortable that you feel like falling asleep in them. The only reason Stow N Go could be reasonable is if you are using it for a cargo van and minivan both regularly. If not, get more used to the dreaded "are we there yet", because more uncomfortable seats definitely increase that. Also, the Odyssey just has that expensive mature look to it. Also, last week the car show was in town and I tested both out and the feature that doesn't allow you to open the sliding door when the gas cap is open worked perfectly every time with the Odyssey, where with the Pacifica it was weird it the way that some times it would not work and other times it would start to open, then work half way before getting to the cap so half the time it was a 100% fail and other it was a 50% fail. Comfort, quality, and longevity/dependability = Honda Odyssey.
I have to go with Honda for the win Chrysler has cheap plastic and technology EVERYWHERE! No one has died in as Odyssey since 2011
Nothing cheap about my Pacifica
Not much of a comparison where it counts. Never mentioned the Odyssey price, MPG, HP, or TQ.
Odyssey Elite:
MSRP - 46,770
MPG - 19/28/22
HP - 280
TQ - 262
Redline RPM - 6800
Max TQ RPM - 4700
Pacifica Limited
MSRP - 43,795
MPG - 18/28/22
HP - 287
TQ - 262
Redline RPM - 6000
Max TQ RPM - 4000
As noted in other comments, the Chrysler 3.6L V6 engine is bullet-proof. The lower redline RPM and lower Max TQ RPM contribute to this measurably; the engine does not work as hard to achieve the equivalent HP and TQ results.
Not to mention, the Odyssey is not available in AWD, which aside from Honda's blurry logic for this glaring void, is a meaningful downside. AWD provides superior traction control and vehicle safety under all inclement road conditions, not just in "snowy Colorado".
And the Pacifica Stow-N-Go seats make it a truly universal vehicle, not just for the average consumer but also for small-business activities, e.g., smaller scale product delivery and contractors. With the Stow-N-Go seats the variables of people and cargo combinations are beneficence too - 5 passengers and extra stuff, or 4 passengers and extra stuff, or 2 passengers and a lot of extra stuff. With the Odyssey I'm guessing the seats need to be removed to achieve equivalent real-world stowage space and that is rather inconvenient to say the least. In many cases it will take to persons to get that done.
If the Pacifica could get at least 25MPG combined it would then truly be untouchable...for the near future anyway!
The Stow and go seats alone make the Pacifica better. The only reason Honda picked a Pacifica to compare it to is because they know its a threat. Notice how they didnt choose the Limited trim.... IMO, the Pacifica beats it in every way. To each his own though...
Why did Honda provide the top of line Elite to compare with the Touring plus-L from Chrysler? They should provide the top of the line limited model for the Pacifica for a fair comparison. What was Honda afraid of? I drove a Pacifica for 600 miles as a rental for a week. It was very nice to drive, quiet and the handling was pretty good comparing to my 08 Sienna. Pacifica also has the 360 camera on the limited model which I think it is a very important safety feature for a minivan; I am surprised Honda left out this feature for the new Odyssey. I actually like the Pacifica a lot but I do worry about the reliability issue with FCA product. The problem with the current model Sienna is the poor crash test rating and lack of a good driving safety system. OnceToyota redesign the Sienna in 2019-2020, I will check out all three of them and see which one is the going to be my next minivan.
We have a 2018 Pacifica. I never hated a car more. From the day we brought it home nothing but problems. Every time we go in the answer we get is a "software update" is needed. Currently in the shop for probably no exaggeration the 10th time not for routine maintenance. Guess what the answer we were given software update needed. 38 updates they say are required. The Van was in the shop 2 months ago because the battery went bad and locked the entire car up. Why weren't updates done then? We do all routine maintence as required.
Issues we have had.
1. Back up camera computer system bad from purchase doesn't work half the time. Had to replace. I don't think warranty covered it. Not sure.
2. Start/stop assist quit working
3.transmission slips
4. Car loses power when accelerating randomly. Imagine pulling across traffic with your kids in the car and you almost get nailed.
5. Main battery ( i can kind of understand this one but car is 2 years old) $350. Tow $150
6. Auxiliary batteries to I think the start stop assist. $250
7. Sliding doors don't work right. Takes several tries to keep them closed.
8. Rough/erratic idle.
Today $400 to update and replace fuel filters and some other stuff. We will be trading this car in ASAP. Worst car i have ever owned.
Going to purchase a mini van soon. I am a journeyman electrician who does a lot of side work and the stowed seating for all the seats on the Pacifica has me leaning that way.
As much time as you spent talking about quietness and refinement, you only directly compared the two on how they sounded when you floored them. Since most minivan drivers are going to spend 99.99% of their driving time NOT flooring their van, maybe you could have touched on the NVH during normal day to day driving scenarios instead? Especially since something like wide open throttle exhaust noise is often intentionally allowed to be sporty sounding.
Since yesterday, I have the Chrysler Pacifica S... And I love it. Ok, my wife loves it :-) But she allowes me to drive sometime :-) When I dont want to drive my '16 RAM... greetings from germany. I love TFL! You are great!!!
I'm in the same boat. I'm wife called be yesterday and said why do you keep taking my Pacifica, take your Ram truck 🤣
DON'T BUY A PACIFICA! If I can save one person from getting stuck with one of these my time is worth it. A warning to prospective buyers: I bought a 2018 Chrysler Pacifica with only 11,500 MI back in May. Since I purchased it the start-stop feature stopped working and the whole car just died at a stop. Got that battery replaced and automatic start stop still didn't work. Then a couple of months later I was driving on the freeway and the car started to stall and I couldn't control it as well. It had a warning alarm going off to service the power steering. I had the car fixed for that and then 2 weeks later I had the SAME problem plus like five other error codes such as service shifter, break not available, service electronic stability control etc. It won't drive.
All Kia dealerships in my area are always backed up at least a week for service appointments (because they have so many problems)
Most people don't have rental coverage and if they do they will not give you a rental until your appointment date so you do not have a car for over a week unless you are going to come out of pocket to rent one. I went on Chrysler Pacifica forums and saw all these problems people have with them such as not being able to turn off cruise control AT ALL when they are on the freeway and it even accelerating on its own or the car doing automatic emergency braking on it's own without cause on the freeway jeopardizing people's lives. So many complaints to the NHTSA. I'm considering selling the car now to CarMax and buying a different brand van. What's a shame is someone else is going to be stuck with this potentially unsafe and DEFINITELY unreliable car. I'm outside the California lemon law limits of 18 months or 18,000 miles so I can't go that route. This is just a huge headache! Save yourselves.
Such a tough assignment. I feel for you!