I just got an iPad Pro with an Apple Pencil and one of the things I was most excited about was getting back into sculpting. I have owned forger for a while and just discovered Nomad in the App Store today. I am VERY glad to have found this video. It is my experience that when larger software companies buy independent creative tools, it is NEVER good for the current users. Your advice to buy and use both is wise. I think I will not be investing a large amount of time in forger at this point as I trust a high end 3D software company about as far as I can comfortably spit a rat and I refuse to pay subscriptions for my tools. So Nomad looks and sounds great!
*Update* I purchased Nomad shortly after posting this note and within the first few hours of playing around with it I had produced something I was proud enough of to save. I dunno, I think it is quite a bit better than forger for me. Thanks again.
Should I buy forger classic? I heard that users who buy classic have one year subscription of the new version for free. However, no further bug fix and update for the classic version.
Ewo, I own what is now forger classic and have received no communication from them saying that the new version is free for the first year. I would not do anything based on a rumor. Plus, most people seem pretty excited about Nomad.
Nomad for sure. It´s already a amazing package and made by one guy. I´ve already had good experience with developer interaction through the forum or from new discord channel. I´ve asked couple feature requests that i miss from desktop side like zbrush etc. They are now both in the app, pretty different turnaround from a bigger companies where users seems to be ignored.
I started with Forger. I had no sculpting back ground so it was challenging for me to learn, because there wasn't a lot out there in the way of good tutorials. when I started watching Glen sculpt it gave me some confidence to try it out. Nomad came along and the way it presented itself felt more intuitive for a newbie like myself so i switched, although I didn't get rid of Forger. I'm super grateful for the person/team who brought about Forger, and I'm super happy they were bought out and hopefully got a lot of money for their hard work. I'm excited to see where both of these programs go. I'm slow at sculpting because I don't have a lot of time. even with an ipad i struggle to have time in my life right now, but I'm super excited for Glen's new Dinosaur tutorial! hopefully i can start on it this weekend!
well since you said you were excited to see where both programs went, i can say, forger went to shit fk them for making it subscription based. thats like stealing from those who payed for it
I've found that fantastic sculpting app Forger is more suitable and practical for my needs. Also, it's pretty easy to use and works fluidly on my iPad 8th generation.
I look forward to hearing more about the direction of 3D sculpting. I’m just entering the digital world from traditional by purchasing Nomad and couldn’t be more excited with the amount of knowledge being shared. Thanks for sharing this video!
i got Nomad recently and love it. I tried Forger this weekend and it wasn't as intuitive as Nomad - and as you wondered early on in this video, would Forget become a subscription service? Yeah, it did. I may still try it but honestly, I don't feel any need to get into Forger. Besides - I've got Blender where I can import my nomad scupts into if i ever decide to do anything more complex...
Thanks for another great video! I have both apps but currently using Nomad. It is so awesome that you can have this kind of app on your mobile device! The greatest thing in Nomad is that you can setup your light and it will render the shadows :). Keep on doing those amamazing videos, you are my main source of the "Nomad knowledge" :)!
This is interesting looking back now (Maxon having acquired Zbrush as well). Maxon is an amazing company, and I never felt ignored when I was a C4D artist.
I find forger easier for organic sculpting like faces. But nomads is brilliant and a little more easier for hard surfaces than zbrush especially cuttingand trimming and makeing holes.👍
I recently discovered Nomad and found my love for sculpting was only merely sparked after many years of modeling inactivity. I dabbled with it and created a simple witch's cap mushroom. However when I discovered your channel and videos I became intensely inspired by your creation of swamp thing and have since been learning and reconnecting with my sculpting. Thank you very much for your videos and your helpful courses!
thank you for the recommendation! I have wanted to get into digital sculpting for a while now but never had the hardware for it. Now I'm watching these videos because I've decided to go with the 16gb RAM iPad pro as my main art device/laptop replacement for the near future. I hope with that amount of power for a mobile "art tablet" I will get at least few years of use out of it. I don't know if either of these apps can use the full 16gb ram already but I definitely feel like I'm future-proofing my setup for at least the next few years. It's just a bit of a shame that the ram is linked with the storage capacity, I can see people having a use for that much power but not needing 1tb or more. I guess it's nice to have but my wallet is definitely crying.
Answer for your dilemma question - Maxon just bought Zbrush :) Check and Mate ) But today Nomad is more professional than Forger. But, thank you for video
As somebody who bought both, nomad is by far the one that is way more worth it in my opinion, but the only major downfall where forger comes in is when it comes to anything with UVs. The reason why I care about UVs is because that’s what the plush pattern program I use needs.
And to add on as a question, what does the UV having too much stretch/stress mean? Some of my models I import into the pattern software sometimes say my UV is stretched above 2.0 and won’t accept my model. And is there anything I can do about it on iPad?
Love the videos! Would you do a video where you make a ring with a gem held in prongs? And any tips for creating a model where scale and dimension come into play would be great!
Already being made! I made a ring sizer template file as well. the new lathe feature is perfect for this sort of work. A full radial symmetry is what we need next!
For those needing to know how the app runs on ANDROID using premium tablets, the precision and performance on my Samsung Tab S8 has been glorious. The render quality depends on your tablets hardware but on my Tab S8, it takes only 30s to render a 5K PNG with AO, HDRI lighting and other relevant post-processing enabled and dialed in to taste. That's without really taking advantage of the full potential of its GPU. I've yet to max out the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. I think stability is more dependent on GPU performance and thats why the M1 and Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 have no issue rendering real-time even with the buffer being set to 100 samples.
Started using Blender when Maxon took over and subsequently ruined Zbrush imo… Also started using Nomad when Maxon took over Forger and now it’s a pay per month app with very few if any updates. Maxon seems intent on taking the innovation out of 3D sculpting whilst holding it’s users to monthly ransom payments.
If it doesn't sound too blasphemous, maybe Pixologic should pick up Nomad! It's also interesting to me to see the possible (probable?) convergence of the iPad with the M1(2) Mac platform and the kind of synergy and power which might unwind there. Speaking of: Any word about how Nomad runs on Android tablets? Which, for all intents, means Galaxy, I suppose...
Got the 2021 Ipad Pro recently. I normally do my sculpts on my Wacom and main PC since I have access to multiple monitors for reference. Need more practice sculpting so I was curious on what sculpting programs they had out there. Thanks a lot for this video. Was just what I was looking for.
I haven't used Nomad yet but I can say Foger saves terribly. To move my work to Procreate I simply screenshot my images and it works ok.I have a feeling Nomad mite be better. We'll see today. Also, is Blender made for iPad yet?
I’ll be reviewing that as soon as the new one arrives. I will be getting the 1TB version which has 16 gig ram. That means I’ll be going from 6gig to 16gig and using the insanely fast M1 as well. That is a serious leap in specs..........
Nomad is also on Android tho, so it's not specific to iPad. And unlike before, recently Android has been very competitive in the tablet scene. Smasung, Oppo, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Honor, they all have been making really good tablets that give the iPad a run for its money!
Bought your Nomad course and really like it. Learning so much! One question, I imported a model from Blender. It is two separate meshes but I exported as one Stl. I did this because I had to line them up a certain way in Blender. Now in Nomad, I am trying to separate them into 2 separate object/meshes, like the Separate function in Blender, but can't figure out how to do it in Nomad, any ideas?
I just got into 3d sculpting! I just bought nomad, and I had bought forger around 2 years ago time to watch your guides! Love the authentic compare and contrast between the two apps great work man! Edit: I just bought the beginner course you guys offer on your website for nomad!
Can't remember what software it was but I had already paid for the life time license and because it didn't work out for them, they discontinued and pushed another subscription based app that shamelessly was called "formerly softwarename". It's so frustrating because they also force users that pay for software to go subscription because they won't support new updates and such. Look at Adobe.
I'm so glad I found this video soon enough to purchase both.. now you can't export anything without Forger subscribtion. It worhted to have core version where you can export something out. Thank you :)
i like nomad but i can't export from nomad to procreate unfortunately. it has to be done through forger. When I try to transfer my work from nomad to forger it doesn't work. it just freezes
Ive always loved forger until ive pushed it. I found i cant seem to import another forger file into a forger sculpt im working on.😢 I can only seem to import obj but i want as forger file.flk
Hello everyone please does anyone to know how to increase the numbers of undos in forger sculpt? in nomad sculpt you have an undo history that records all your steps along the way,please if am missing something kindly help me cos it’s annoying why forger has limited undo actions I can only go back a few times then probably get stuck in between my sculpt ,if anyone has the answer to this question I will be glad to continue with forger
Yeah I try ever few weeks. I'm gutted as I've not been able to get it to run properly on any of my systems so something is badly wrong (probably my end). I'm hoping one day when I reinstall or update it and it will just work and I can do a full session with it. I am working with a few companies that are making polygon tools rather than just sculpting so its getting really exciting now.
I've been using nomad on an s7+ and I love the screen, but really miss some of the ios software. Anybody have an opinion on sticking it out with android vs selling and switching to ipad?
I switched to an ipad a couple years ago and if you havent yet, I recommend switching to ios. The pressure feedback and access to good art apps are better, and the power of an ipad hasnt let me down yet.
What we need next is a rigging/animation software on the iPad
Indeed!!!!
I gree
It's all about the updates and right now Nomad is killing it with the frequent new features and updates.
I just got an iPad Pro with an Apple Pencil and one of the things I was most excited about was getting back into sculpting. I have owned forger for a while and just discovered Nomad in the App Store today. I am VERY glad to have found this video. It is my experience that when larger software companies buy independent creative tools, it is NEVER good for the current users. Your advice to buy and use both is wise. I think I will not be investing a large amount of time in forger at this point as I trust a high end 3D software company about as far as I can comfortably spit a rat and I refuse to pay subscriptions for my tools. So Nomad looks and sounds great!
*Update* I purchased Nomad shortly after posting this note and within the first few hours of playing around with it I had produced something I was proud enough of to save. I dunno, I think it is quite a bit better than forger for me. Thanks again.
@@murdockscott A few months later.... Forger became a subscription
Yeah, it’s unfortunate and predictable. 😕 Thank goodness Nomad is so great!
Should I buy forger classic? I heard that users who buy classic have one year subscription of the new version for free. However, no further bug fix and update for the classic version.
Ewo, I own what is now forger classic and have received no communication from them saying that the new version is free for the first year. I would not do anything based on a rumor. Plus, most people seem pretty excited about Nomad.
Nomad for sure. It´s already a amazing package and made by one guy. I´ve already had good experience with developer interaction through the forum or from new discord channel. I´ve asked couple feature requests that i miss from desktop side like zbrush etc. They are now both in the app, pretty different turnaround from a bigger companies where users seems to be ignored.
Absolutely. Nomad makes you feel like you're part of the development.
I started with Forger. I had no sculpting back ground so it was challenging for me to learn, because there wasn't a lot out there in the way of good tutorials. when I started watching Glen sculpt it gave me some confidence to try it out. Nomad came along and the way it presented itself felt more intuitive for a newbie like myself so i switched, although I didn't get rid of Forger. I'm super grateful for the person/team who brought about Forger, and I'm super happy they were bought out and hopefully got a lot of money for their hard work.
I'm excited to see where both of these programs go. I'm slow at sculpting because I don't have a lot of time. even with an ipad i struggle to have time in my life right now, but I'm super excited for Glen's new Dinosaur tutorial! hopefully i can start on it this weekend!
I feel that!! Imma buy it today and hopefully I can start soon too!!!
well since you said you were excited to see where both programs went, i can say, forger went to shit fk them for making it subscription based. thats like stealing from those who payed for it
I've got the Nomad on my Tab S6 and am amazed by the features, UI and performance
So true
I've found that fantastic sculpting app Forger is more suitable and practical for my needs. Also, it's pretty easy to use and works fluidly on my iPad 8th generation.
I look forward to hearing more about the direction of 3D sculpting. I’m just entering the digital world from traditional by purchasing Nomad and couldn’t be more excited with the amount of knowledge being shared. Thanks for sharing this video!
i got Nomad recently and love it. I tried Forger this weekend and it wasn't as intuitive as Nomad - and as you wondered early on in this video, would Forget become a subscription service? Yeah, it did. I may still try it but honestly, I don't feel any need to get into Forger. Besides - I've got Blender where I can import my nomad scupts into if i ever decide to do anything more complex...
I am a traditional sculptor - I desire to learn to 3D sculpt on my iPad for resin printing - it will up my game
Thanks for another great video! I have both apps but currently using Nomad. It is so awesome that you can have this kind of app on your mobile device! The greatest thing in Nomad is that you can setup your light and it will render the shadows :).
Keep on doing those amamazing videos, you are my main source of the "Nomad knowledge" :)!
This is interesting looking back now (Maxon having acquired Zbrush as well). Maxon is an amazing company, and I never felt ignored when I was a C4D artist.
I find forger easier for organic sculpting like faces.
But nomads is brilliant and a little more easier for hard surfaces than zbrush especially cuttingand trimming and makeing holes.👍
I recently discovered Nomad and found my love for sculpting was only merely sparked after many years of modeling inactivity. I dabbled with it and created a simple witch's cap mushroom. However when I discovered your channel and videos I became intensely inspired by your creation of swamp thing and have since been learning and reconnecting with my sculpting. Thank you very much for your videos and your helpful courses!
thank you for the recommendation! I have wanted to get into digital sculpting for a while now but never had the hardware for it. Now I'm watching these videos because I've decided to go with the 16gb RAM iPad pro as my main art device/laptop replacement for the near future. I hope with that amount of power for a mobile "art tablet" I will get at least few years of use out of it. I don't know if either of these apps can use the full 16gb ram already but I definitely feel like I'm future-proofing my setup for at least the next few years. It's just a bit of a shame that the ram is linked with the storage capacity, I can see people having a use for that much power but not needing 1tb or more. I guess it's nice to have but my wallet is definitely crying.
Personally I find Nomad sculpt a lot more intuitive than Forger.
Answer for your dilemma question - Maxon just bought Zbrush :) Check and Mate ) But today Nomad is more professional than Forger. But, thank you for video
As somebody who bought both, nomad is by far the one that is way more worth it in my opinion, but the only major downfall where forger comes in is when it comes to anything with UVs. The reason why I care about UVs is because that’s what the plush pattern program I use needs.
And to add on as a question, what does the UV having too much stretch/stress mean? Some of my models I import into the pattern software sometimes say my UV is stretched above 2.0 and won’t accept my model. And is there anything I can do about it on iPad?
What do you mean by this. I’m so sorry if it’s annoying (newbie) and don’t know the terminology you’re using
I'm sticking with Nomad on iPad, and using blender on computer. Nomad is awesome and so well supported it's insane.
Just got a tab s7 and looking into sculpting to make custom 3d prints
Love the videos! Would you do a video where you make a ring with a gem held in prongs? And any tips for creating a model where scale and dimension come into play would be great!
That would be great to see a non jewellers perspective sculpting jewellery with Nomad!
Already being made! I made a ring sizer template file as well. the new lathe feature is perfect for this sort of work. A full radial symmetry is what we need next!
@@SouthernGFX Can’t wait for that one, I am so looking forward to it...Thanks
@@SouthernGFX Where can I find metcaps for gemstones? Please let me know.
For those needing to know how the app runs on ANDROID using premium tablets, the precision and performance on my Samsung Tab S8 has been glorious. The render quality depends on your tablets hardware but on my Tab S8, it takes only 30s to render a 5K PNG with AO, HDRI lighting and other relevant post-processing enabled and dialed in to taste. That's without really taking advantage of the full potential of its GPU. I've yet to max out the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. I think stability is more dependent on GPU performance and thats why the M1 and Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 have no issue rendering real-time even with the buffer being set to 100 samples.
Started using Blender when Maxon took over and subsequently ruined Zbrush imo… Also started using Nomad when Maxon took over Forger and now it’s a pay per month app with very few if any updates. Maxon seems intent on taking the innovation out of 3D sculpting whilst holding it’s users to monthly ransom payments.
As a long time Forger user I was on the fence of Nomad... I'll give it a go :)
After 10 months, any thoughts?
If it doesn't sound too blasphemous, maybe Pixologic should pick up Nomad! It's also interesting to me to see the possible (probable?) convergence of the iPad with the M1(2) Mac platform and the kind of synergy and power which might unwind there. Speaking of: Any word about how Nomad runs on Android tablets? Which, for all intents, means Galaxy, I suppose...
It runs great I use it on my Samsung tab s4 and it's amazing I can't even imagine how it will be on the Samsung tab s7 plus.
Got the 2021 Ipad Pro recently. I normally do my sculpts on my Wacom and main PC since I have access to multiple monitors for reference. Need more practice sculpting so I was curious on what sculpting programs they had out there. Thanks a lot for this video. Was just what I was looking for.
I haven't used Nomad yet but I can say Foger saves terribly. To move my work to Procreate I simply screenshot my images and it works ok.I have a feeling Nomad mite be better. We'll see today. Also, is Blender made for iPad yet?
Imagine both on the new iPad Pro with M1… Thanks for the review! :)
I’ll be reviewing that as soon as the new one arrives. I will be getting the 1TB version which has 16 gig ram. That means I’ll be going from 6gig to 16gig and using the insanely fast M1 as well. That is a serious leap in specs..........
Nomad is also on Android tho, so it's not specific to iPad. And unlike before, recently Android has been very competitive in the tablet scene. Smasung, Oppo, OnePlus, Xiaomi, Honor, they all have been making really good tablets that give the iPad a run for its money!
Nomad Sculpt all the way, for me! Rhino 7 is too much financially and mentally.
Bought your Nomad course and really like it. Learning so much! One question, I imported a model from Blender. It is two separate meshes but I exported as one Stl. I did this because I had to line them up a certain way in Blender. Now in Nomad, I am trying to separate them into 2 separate object/meshes, like the Separate function in Blender, but can't figure out how to do it in Nomad, any ideas?
This was helpful, thank you
No problem!
I just got into 3d sculpting! I just bought nomad, and I had bought forger around 2 years ago time to watch your guides! Love the authentic compare and contrast between the two apps great work man!
Edit: I just bought the beginner course you guys offer on your website for nomad!
Which one is good
Thank you😊
It's a pleasure
Can't remember what software it was but I had already paid for the life time license and because it didn't work out for them, they discontinued and pushed another subscription based app that shamelessly was called "formerly softwarename". It's so frustrating because they also force users that pay for software to go subscription because they won't support new updates and such. Look at Adobe.
Thank you for your advice 👍. I have bought forger too.
Forger is now subscription based
I'm so glad I found this video soon enough to purchase both.. now you can't export anything without Forger subscribtion. It worhted to have core version where you can export something out. Thank you :)
Would this run well enough at all on a 2017 Ipad pro or do you need a 2020 ipad pro?
Which is the best for low poly style of art?
Yo uso el Nomad Sculpt en mi celular,
Lo veo mas fácil de usar
You are the best
I've heard Nomad is better than Forger, so I wonder, why did they bought Forger and not Nomad?
Maybe nomad didn’t want to sell? the creator still has to agree to it.
Team Stephane and Nomad all the way! ...And not just because I'm on an Android...
Is it a subscription on Nomad like Forger is?
Nope. One off payment and the upgrades are free. It's amazing value
Can these sortwares work well on iPad Air 4?
If it works on his iPad Pro 2020 then it should work with the iPad Air 4. Maybe just not as complex projects.
Conclusion for me is buy both now, start with Nomad as a sculpting beginner and keep Forger for any advance functions in the future.
In foger there is clear material (smth like glass or water)?
would you reccommend getting a 1TB ipad for storing more files? or is 512gb enough?
i like nomad but i can't export from nomad to procreate unfortunately. it has to be done through forger. When I try to transfer my work from nomad to forger it doesn't work. it just freezes
I hv ipad 4th generation. Will this app work on tat?
Ive always loved forger until ive pushed it.
I found i cant seem to import another forger file into a forger sculpt im working on.😢
I can only seem to import obj but i want as forger file.flk
Hello everyone please does anyone to know how to increase the numbers of undos in forger sculpt? in nomad sculpt you have an undo history that records all your steps along the way,please if am missing something kindly help me cos it’s annoying why forger has limited undo actions I can only go back a few times then probably get stuck in between my sculpt ,if anyone has the answer to this question I will be glad to continue with forger
Not so much because it's for Ipad but probably same code base for future M1 Macs.
Nice
Thanks Deepak!
I have an iPad Pro 2018, which has 4gigs ram. would it run Nomad decently stable?
Just bought your TREX course and cannot access, please help
Sorry about that. Did you get the email after you purchased? If not please email training@southerrngfx.co.uk and we will resend you details.
Have you thought about trying out Kodon VR and giving us your opinion?
Yeah I try ever few weeks. I'm gutted as I've not been able to get it to run properly on any of my systems so something is badly wrong (probably my end). I'm hoping one day when I reinstall or update it and it will just work and I can do a full session with it. I am working with a few companies that are making polygon tools rather than just sculpting so its getting really exciting now.
@@SouthernGFX that’s awesome! Can’t wait to see what’s next
I have an Android Tablet (Galaxy S6 Lite)
Forger is only on iPad
Nomad is on Android too and it's pretty stable
Where do you find Forger? By name, it's not on the android app store...
In the past, you can found it forger classic. But for nowadays, you can find it forger only.
I have android so i don have any option.
Nomad runs on my 2016 Galaxy Tab just fine...
Nomad has an Android equivalent and works comparable to the IOS version.
Haven't checked forger in a while, does it have radial symmetry by now? For making wheel rims and such?
Maybe you could fast forward at a lower speed all your timelapses? It’s a bit frustrating not to see clearly all the work! But thanks
Forger has a subscription model now 😭
I've been using nomad on an s7+ and I love the screen, but really miss some of the ios software. Anybody have an opinion on sticking it out with android vs selling and switching to ipad?
I switched to an ipad a couple years ago and if you havent yet, I recommend switching to ios. The pressure feedback and access to good art apps are better, and the power of an ipad hasnt let me down yet.
I want an iPad pro so badly but my parents don't want😤
get a job and pay for it yourself.
get an iPad Air :)
kids, just buy candy!
@@jwkk3912 😂😂candy does not last long, and i was given opportunity to work for the money. Software engineering.
@@davecullen3351 goood
So forger now is a subscription app? wtf hell no.
I think we should use to nomad..
Nice Vid Man
Thanks!
How can I get nomad forger?
They are both available from the apple App Store. Nomad is also available for Android.
@@SouthernGFX thanks 🙏
Save your time, he says get both. 🙄
Welll now forger has a subscription plan…
How much??
@@bjorkbork5717 $15/year. That's per year, not month.
i dont like nomad sculpt it literally costs money
So does forger. It's a monthly subscription