Personally I think Shinjuku had higher highs. But also much lower lows. I think Shibuya was consistently good across the board. So I prefer Shibuya overall.
the only higher high for shinjuku was yuta tripple domain tease, hakari fight was stressful lol, and gojo vs sukuna otherwise shibuya was overall better
@@art0ni641Yuji’s Awakening, Todo’s Return, and Yuji’s Domain Expansion Talk was peak but it went downhill afterwards. It should’ve ended with Yuji and Megumi 2v1ing Sukuna and people like Yuta and Nobara staying dead.
@JR-pu9bn todos return was bad for me because immediately i asked myself why they didnt use him to jump sukuna with the executionors sword and 1shot him...yuji awakening wasnt as good as makis for me it was just a way to keep him close to sukuna tbh i was burnt out by then and just wanted to see the ending. Shibuya was excitement every chapter
@@art0ni641 Because at the moment Kenny was a HIV he could've ended the whole of Japan with just one command. Yuta and Takaba would've folded against Kenny, just by the mere fact that he reacted to the sneak that yuta did instantly and if it wasn't for todo bush camping, yuta would've died to Kenny. They needed todo there or else yuta was gonna die and by default sukuna would've killed every single sorcerer that showed up moments later.
I think this is the perfect way to put it! I had no fucking clue how Shibuya was gonna go but Shinjuku you at least had a solid idea even if the details weren’t clear
This is a whole lie, Shinjuku literally had the entire community questioning whether Sukuna was actually gonna win with how he was beating everyone, Shibuya was more predictable by a long shot, the least predictable thing that happened in Shibuya was Tojis comeback everything else though was pretty obvious
@ I guess for some people that could be the case, for me at least I never even once considered that Sukuna would actually end up winning so it was just a matter of time until they eventually defeated him, although it had a ton of great moments leading up to that
@ I guess for some people that could be the case, for me at least I never even once considered that Sukuna would actually end up winning so it was just a matter of time until they eventually defeated him, although it had a ton of great moments leading up to that
11:07 It’s “out of character” because Yuji developed into it. The later shinjuku scene was more of a character regression than the “I’m you” scene was out of character
I liked that in Shinjuku everyone got a chance to shine and the Yuji and Sukuna dynamic and fights were great. And the idea of a climatic showdown with all the characters we have seen across the story is really cool in its own right.
It should've been multiple final bosses split up fighting a group of chars. People saying shinjuku is just sukuna week after week getting glazed. They could've orevrnted this by actually showing hakari vs uraume, maybe making kenjaku have a final fight at the same time with sukuna and not making sukuna a damn hp sponge
I think multiple boss fights could work but would be predictable as we would all know the good guys would usually come out on top. With the everyone vs Sukuna, even if we knew it was gonna end with Yuji vs Sukuna, it at least had us second guessing as everyone had a decent shot. Sukuna being so strong is meant to reflect the difference in strength between the strongest and every other sorcerer.
@EthanZheKaiSinghBlss I had an idea. If kenjaku had a final fight, he would switch bodies to one with a powerful technique and leave geto body. This might be a stretch but like when geto gained control of his hand for a second, it would happen here, and he fully regains his body and fights kenjaku with a few other sorcerer's maybe.
What if Yuji never talked to Sukuna until the Domain Expansion as a Binding Vow? What if he made a Binding Vow that "in exchange for not falling for this motherfucker's psychological bullshittery, throwing hands and taking damage will then give me the ability to completely expand my domain"
I thought the more-likely vow was “I will extend every chance to Sukuna to acknowledge my morals, and the chance to return to me, in exchange I’ll be able to expand a domain”
Unc I love Shinjuku but u didn't need to dunk on Shibuya to explain why you like Shinjuku better😭😭 like man, "I am you", out of character for Yuji?? It's specifically because of this moment that the final talk between Yuji and Sukuna hits so goddamn hard
@@Rap-Slinger it wouldn’t be nothing more than just a fan favorite getting extra screen time it wouldn’t enhance the story for me personally. I’d rather see Gojo and Nobara interact more than that
I like shibuya more. I prefered the general mahito vs yuji dynamic more then sukunas and yuji. Plus i will never forget how gege wasted kashimo soo mutch. both had weird endings but shinjuku just was worse since it was the final arc
For story telling. I believe shibuya is better, now straight hype and fun and buildup, its DEFINITELY shinjuku. Plus i think what added to this is the favt that both shibuya (anime)and shinjuku showdown(manga) were happeninng at the same time. That for sure made jjk get so much more traction imo
12:31 would have been cool if sukuna did a binding vow to do a partial merger and then yuji and megumi got to team up to fight it. And also with sukuna possessing the merger to show that he still can’t come to terms with dying
I do disagree with the notion, but agree that those parts are peak my greatest gripe is with THE GOAT pannel of Yuji telling sukuna he can kill him, but afterwards he needs Nobara's help... I don't mind her comeback (as it was one of my """predictions""") but she could have helped him get the last black flash before he got the domain or something like that still loved the ending tho
Basically blud had problem with Toji popping off in Shibuya while he wanted his goat Yuji to pop off and since he did in Shinjuku he loved Shinjuku more
I personally think Kenjakus death was very good. You gotta understand that Takaba gave Kenjaku what he wanted, satisfying both of them, and kenjaku got distracted by this happiness he sought, only to get decapitated by Yuta who he loathes, but still having been satisfied by his battle with takaba regardless and passing his will to Sukuna.
People that think Kenjaku had a horrible death were just blinded by their own interpretations of the character and what he was actually meant to be imo
Hell no!. I know its the final arc but an arc that is literally just fighting 1 guy for 50 chapters is a low in general for me. Don't get me wrong Gojo vs Sukuna was peak but as a whole its nowhere near Shibuya. Hot take but I'd take the MHA final war arc over the Shinjuku showdown .
Thats such a surface level view of the arc. Yes that was the main event but its all the things that happened during that event is what makes it better than Shibuya
@soloooaj literally what happened but sukuna glaze, sukuna cyle and gota being useless. No characyer development happened except yuji and sukuna. Funny how the main villain feels more like a main character than the Mc. Shinjuku could've have been so much better . Shinjuku also proves that culling games wasn't even that good, just a ton of chars introduced just to be negative differ by sukuna later
@@2k3d Higaruma, Megumi, Yuta, and Takaba all had character development not to mention Gojo had really good characterization during his fight and after in flashbacks so you’re wrong about. In what ways did Shinjuku prove that CG wasn’t good?
Not Blue Lock 😭. it’s too easy to make fun of it at this point, Nagi tried saving it, but as soon as Sae started flying I knew the whole world was gonna clown the U20.
I disagree. For me, Shibuya really made me feel like JJK was a classic, Shinjuku was just really good to me. The hype doesn't move me as much as story.
7:19 the gojo character assassination comes from the fact that he died and immediately started glazing talking about he doesn’t think he could beat sukuna even without the 10S even tho sukunas whole plan and win con was based around the 10S not saying that his death was bad but it did seem a little out of character for the usual cocky arrogant gojo
Source of Gege saying that? The only hint I can think of is him saying at the end of the story it'll either be the three of the main cast (Megumi,Yuji Nobara) or only 1.
@ there was a thing where fans got to ask questions and some1 asked about Nobara specifically and he said she’s nt coming back. If you Google “Gege on Nobara” it’s pro’ly one of the first things that comes up
@KiddLucci22 I remember a fan asking gege about the Shibuya characters and he said he had already intended on removing nobara and nanami from the story before going in but that's not saying he killed her
I Think its a bit pretentious but i dont think its disrespectfull to gege at least considering gege really fumbled alot of things in the culling games but also the final fight in shinjuku gojo aside so im just curious to see what they do. Could be improvement. Could not be i wont judge until i see final product Shinjuku had lower lows and higher highs Shibuya had more narrative consistancy. Gojo's death is an example but the reason its so massive is cause other than choso no one died. And choso dying was a given has the big bro so it almost like gege just wanted an excuse to kill him and the way he died went against his own narrative construction as a character...also the fact that Yuki survived being cut in half. Gojo's death to toji was more brutal and gruesome sukuna kaisen with binding vows out the ass for limitations we did not know existed Too many here say don't say....we must infer the plot moments Uraume vs hakari Or how Jacobs ladder is suddenly crazy useless as it can't even fuck with a near death heavy beaten sukuna who just swam through it like it was water like WTF Megumi being is useless bum ass bitch with no redemption or self assertion. He just cried and got saved what a messy fucking final fight dude Yuta gojo body shit is dumb...The technique ran out and yuta was in a dead body for 5 minuites and he didnt die but gojo did?....And they made it seem like an issue like yuta is gonna die....but he didnt? Sukuna HOLDING BACK GUYS HOLDING BACK...Yuji puts all this effort multiple awakenings and sukuna is stressing getting pressured....And then sukuna just throws like paper as if he could do that at any time just to fight yuta in gojos body Nah Shibuya slaps
Gojo's death was pain+pain, because not only did Gojo fans lose their favourite, but the lost the pillar of faith they've had for 5 years. A character they (together with Gege) had propped up to be untouchable, unkillable, invincible, a character whom Gege said he 'supposedly' didn't have . Before 236, Gojo fans could comfortably battle Goku and Saitama fans combined in a cross verse battle argument, but seeing Gojo die to someone they've perceived as the weaker opponent for years (and definitely throughout the fight), from a single slash that TORE through the infinity, something they thought to have transcended fiction itself...not only that, the most painful part of his death was seeing him glaze Sukuna. Cocky God Complex Obnoxious Arrogant Gojo bowing down to another sorcerer? Gege made sure they'd NEVER gonna forget 236, he intentionally ruined the shinjuku showdown experience for them (at least till they saw Sukuna defeated, then they got pressed again when Gojo was not given a funeral, but Sukuna closed off walking into the Sunset like a retired King lol).
@@redstaria963 people who say shibuya is better than shinjuku are ALL salty gojo fans tryna put down shinjuku because Gojo died in it, and trying to prop up shibuya arc because Hidden inventory was in it, but they aren't ready for that convo yet 🫠
Nah, Gojo’s death was still mishandled AND felt off, coming from a non-Gojo fan. Also, no one truly believed he could beat Goku or Saitama. It’s kind of funny how Hunter X Hunter managed to surpass Shinjuku as a whole in a single go. But this is also his first worst, and he lost passion for it, so I suppose it’s not fair.
@@Spino-hx2mryou capping, and we both know. You're a Gojo fan, Gojo fans thought Gojo solos fiction with limitless, and HxH, despite coming out first, is already in the shadows of JJK! Using HxH to bash JJK has been the go-to for the hurt Gojo fan since 236. 'I'm not a Gojo fan' my ahh
@@TechGuru-zp6bu I often tend to argue the opposite considering bypassing his Infinity simply requires the ability of control space, something a *lot* of Characters can do. He isn’t challenging Goku or Saitama, let alone people below them in power who can control space. And I haven’t really seen many people do that. Nor do I understand what you mean by ‘being in the shadows of JJK’ when its return is highly anticipated. I think the fight was still good, but the off-screen was unnecessary and the explanation for World Cutting Slash convoluted. For the record, I thought Mahito was a better villain than Sukuna. That’s one of my main reasons for believing Shibuya is better than Shinjuku.
I think its disrespectful to try to make a new ending because mha never got one and attack on Titan never got one where those guys don't people hate those ones? I personally think jjk ending ain't that bad its good
Culling games clears both ngl, also wanted to add that it’s literally just a coincidence that geges writing fell off after killing gojo. Fundamentally it’s a bad ending. Rushed, lazy. Overall disappointing Edit: 6:34 bruh imagine if they killed Kakashi or jiraiya offscreen literally crazy take dog
@@fuzzo2734 Because in my opinion the Shinjuku Showdown arc had too many flaws and inconsistencies to be a good arc Sukuna should have easily killed most of his opponents during the final battle especially when he accessed Black Flash but they survived with no permanent injuries. Against the Strongest Sorcerer of History, this is a stupid joke. Then there is the fact that Yuji's arc to self forgiveness is far too contrived, he was still thinking of killing himself when they met Yorozu but now he just forgives himself without showing the steps to achieving that? Not only that, him forgiving Sukuna is preposterous, he hasn't been shown to possess any knowledge of Sukuna's backstory but he just assumes that Sukuna has had a pitiful life ostracized by others? Sukuna has shown the complete opposite as he presented himself as a chaotic psychopath, to make that claim that Sukuna had a sad life was completely unfounded by Yuji. And then there was Megumi, after being plunged into despair when he was forced to murder his father figure and step sister, all it took was a little pep-talk from Yuji to lift his spirits up? That was incredibly rushed and it reduced all the development Megumi had built up during the series. And then there is Nobara, she was just there as plot armour so Yuji could win the fight against Sukuna, it would have been better if she just died in Mahito so Yuji and Megumi could take him out together. She had minimal foreshadowing to a possible return and it was done during the last 5 chapters of the series
@@Nanabebe-m2rall I hear is 'I'm hurt Gojo died, so I will bash the arc he died, and praise the arc he ascended to be the strongest of today' lol. If Gojo had won against Sukuna, Shinjuku would have been the 'best arc in the history of shonen' for y'all, but he got humbled, and admitted his inferiority to another sorcerer, something y'all can't swallow, so you turn to bashing Gojo's creator and Shinjuku... Shame on the hypocrites 😂
❤❤❤ GeGe truly doesn't care about changing the ending because even the Manga wasn't where he wanted it but way more a community vote basically their version of Joker killing Jason Todd due to community votes but JJk had it in Japan.
I will be laughing my ass off If Jujutsu NO Kaisen goes beyond the ending of the original Jujutsu Kaisen and becomes an ongoing Manga series that becomes the future of the manga series Itself. 😆🤣
@@rand12389real it's just a big fight. We could've gotten more development, a more interesting fight than a fucking hp sponge. Flashbacks to heian eras, theme development and more
@@rand12389'it was mid after Gojo v Sukuna fight' is how to know someone whom 236 ruined the arc for them, when they loved only when Gojo was dominating, and closed their eyes off to PEAK simply because he isn't the one dishing such delicacy out no more. No matter what you hurt fans think, it's a FACT that Shinjuku slams, and Gojo seconds me on that 😂
@@Blaze57420 Other then choreography, I don't know how you can think Shinjuku Showdown is a superior arc to the Shibuya Incident or Hidden Inventory arcs. They are far superior in most other categories.
Shinjuku showdown had better fights, character moments, deaths, and we learned more about the power system and what was possible. Shibuya at most just had a better dynamic between Yuji and Mahito than Yuji and Sukuna
@@soloooaj Shibuya Incident characterised Gojo, Toji & Yuji very well and it was far more consistent while having greater peaks. Personally Shibuya Incident has far superior fights, while the fights in Shinjuku Showdown did have good moments, the pacing was atrocious and there were massive plot holes such as Sukuna beating Gojo, Nobara saving Yuji and Sukuna not oneshotting some of the fodders he was facing. Meanwhile Gojo had some great characterisation while he faced the Disaster Curses and Yuji had a very good character arc in the Shibuya Incident arc. Besides Sukuna and Yuji is a far superior dynamic than Yuji and Mahito because their dynamic remained the same.
@@Nanabebe-m2r Yuji, Sukuna, Yuta & Gojo also had good characterization in Shinjuku I don’t think that’s something you can argue. The pacing wasn’t atrocious, it just felt bad because we were reading it week to week and we all knew it was going to end with Sukuna’s defeat so it was more so just weekly fatigue. Anybody will tell you on a reread that the fight flowed much better. The “plot holes” you named aren’t plot hole. I don’t see how they’re illogical or inconsistent with the story but if you didn’t like it then that’s fair. Sukuna was even stated by Higaruma himself to not be taking some of the fight seriously and not only that but you have to remember Yuji was weakening Sukuna the ENTIRE fight. So Sukuna’s cursed energy output was actively getting lower and lower. You can even say Kenjaku and Takaba had good characterization along with a good fight
@@soloooaj I agree with Sukuna and Gojo having good characterisation during the Shinjuku Showdown arc but Yuta had inconsistent characterisation in the Shinjuku Showdown arc. He talked about becoming a monster for the sake of others and yet he couldn't even temporarily consume Nobara's arm without her consent? Completely ridiculous. Yuji also had inconsistent characterisation during the arc. His arc to losing his "Cog" mentality was well executed but his journey to self forgiveness was completely rushed and contrived. He had no reason to assume Sukuna had a sympathetic backstory as he portrayed himself as a sadistic and chaotic cannibal who acts only for his own amusement as he wasn't shown having any knowledge of Sukuna's past. Gege only did that so "You are me" could happen which is a sad parody of "I am You". Takaba also had good characterisation but I disagree with Kenjaku being the same, he had no new facets of him being revealed during their fight. All he did was provoke Takaba's character development. Personally I disagree with the pacing, not enough was included. Hakari and Uraume not having their battle shown was disappointing and Megumi having his moment rushed and reduced to making a puddle is atrocious. But you are free to have an opinion. Sukuna being the only one who can hide their cursed energy so Gojo cannot anticipate their attack is plot armour. This ability was only introduced to justify his victory over Gojo, it was never mentioned before. Sukuna holding back is illogical considering he created a strategy allowing him to fight the protagonists at full strength. Holding back until he is starting to lose is just plot armor that justifies them defeating him
@@Nanabebe-m2r If you didn’t like Yuta’s decision that’s fine but I don’t think it’s an actual flaw in writing his character it’s more so just who he is as a character but I do see where it can come off as contradicting. I actually do agree with the Yuji take, I thought the “You are me” moment was pretty weak and redundant. I also agree with the Kenjaku take I kinda just said that for the sake of argument lmao. Hakari vs Uraume not being shown was disappointing but it’s not really a pacing issue because it’s clear Gege never intended to put actual focus on that fight which is why we didn’t see it so it never really interrupted the flow and pacing of the arc. I agree with the megumi take as well but aside from those two points and a couple things from the ending (chapter 267-268 specifically), the pacing of the arc was just fine and I think it’s too extreme to call it atrocious. Also in what chapter was it stated that Sukuna hid his cursed energy??? If I remember correctly the justification was basically that Sukuna cut the space that Gojo existed in, which is basically cutting through space and time which is pretty much one of the very few ways that any character in other verses would have to do to bypass infinity so that’s pretty valid. Sukuna holding back isn’t illogical because it’s consistent with his character. He could’ve beat Jogo and Yorozu much faster but he didn’t. Pretty sure there’s dialogue that I can’t think of off the top of my head to back up the fact that he likes to play with his food as well. You can call it plot armor but it’s just how the story was written but if you don’t like it that’s fair.
I really feel you on that nanami point, it made me sad but for Yuji mainly. It wasnt like Kamina in Gurren Lagann, i feel like i was ready for Nanami to die because he lost against Mahito before Yuji came to save him in the first season
I agree with you. I think ch 257 alone makes shinjuku the better arc. Finally getting to see Yuji use jujutsu especially against Sukuna was fulfilling as a longtime reader
I, personally, think that Shinjuku just as good as Shibuya. I just wish we got more time for characters before Shinjuku. Maybe anime will fix that by putting some of the flashbacks before the Shinjuku showdown, but any that, i've enjoyed the arc.
Personally I think Shinjuku had higher highs. But also much lower lows. I think Shibuya was consistently good across the board. So I prefer Shibuya overall.
the only higher high for shinjuku was yuta tripple domain tease, hakari fight was stressful lol, and gojo vs sukuna otherwise shibuya was overall better
@@art0ni641Yuji’s Awakening, Todo’s Return, and Yuji’s Domain Expansion Talk was peak but it went downhill afterwards. It should’ve ended with Yuji and Megumi 2v1ing Sukuna and people like Yuta and Nobara staying dead.
@JR-pu9bn todos return was bad for me because immediately i asked myself why they didnt use him to jump sukuna with the executionors sword and 1shot him...yuji awakening wasnt as good as makis for me it was just a way to keep him close to sukuna tbh i was burnt out by then and just wanted to see the ending. Shibuya was excitement every chapter
Megumi should NOT have 2v1d him @@JR-pu9bn
@@art0ni641 Because at the moment Kenny was a HIV he could've ended the whole of Japan with just one command. Yuta and Takaba would've folded against Kenny, just by the mere fact that he reacted to the sneak that yuta did instantly and if it wasn't for todo bush camping, yuta would've died to Kenny. They needed todo there or else yuta was gonna die and by default sukuna would've killed every single sorcerer that showed up moments later.
I love the unpredictability of Shibuya. So many surprises and reveals. I feel like Shinjuku was always gonna end up the way it did.
I think this is the perfect way to put it! I had no fucking clue how Shibuya was gonna go but Shinjuku you at least had a solid idea even if the details weren’t clear
This is a whole lie, Shinjuku literally had the entire community questioning whether Sukuna was actually gonna win with how he was beating everyone, Shibuya was more predictable by a long shot, the least predictable thing that happened in Shibuya was Tojis comeback everything else though was pretty obvious
@ I guess for some people that could be the case, for me at least I never even once considered that Sukuna would actually end up winning so it was just a matter of time until they eventually defeated him, although it had a ton of great moments leading up to that
@ I guess for some people that could be the case, for me at least I never even once considered that Sukuna would actually end up winning so it was just a matter of time until they eventually defeated him, although it had a ton of great moments leading up to that
Doesn't matter whatsoever Shinjuku is one of the worst arcs/final arcs in manga @@Truly.Quincho
they did kashimo dirty with that yoruichi pose image tbh.
9:49 Something I just realized now, the speech bubble for "Furnace" has a line going through it reminiscent of Dismantle in other panels
11:07 It’s “out of character” because Yuji developed into it. The later shinjuku scene was more of a character regression than the “I’m you” scene was out of character
I liked that in Shinjuku everyone got a chance to shine and the Yuji and Sukuna dynamic and fights were great. And the idea of a climatic showdown with all the characters we have seen across the story is really cool in its own right.
Except Hakari and Uraume
It should've been multiple final bosses split up fighting a group of chars. People saying shinjuku is just sukuna week after week getting glazed. They could've orevrnted this by actually showing hakari vs uraume, maybe making kenjaku have a final fight at the same time with sukuna and not making sukuna a damn hp sponge
I think multiple boss fights could work but would be predictable as we would all know the good guys would usually come out on top. With the everyone vs Sukuna, even if we knew it was gonna end with Yuji vs Sukuna, it at least had us second guessing as everyone had a decent shot. Sukuna being so strong is meant to reflect the difference in strength between the strongest and every other sorcerer.
@EthanZheKaiSinghBlss I had an idea. If kenjaku had a final fight, he would switch bodies to one with a powerful technique and leave geto body. This might be a stretch but like when geto gained control of his hand for a second, it would happen here, and he fully regains his body and fights kenjaku with a few other sorcerer's maybe.
“I love gojos death” YA WE KNOW!!!
😂😂😂
Sukuna running through the whole manga will always be my favorite
What if Yuji never talked to Sukuna until the Domain Expansion as a Binding Vow?
What if he made a Binding Vow that "in exchange for not falling for this motherfucker's psychological bullshittery, throwing hands and taking damage will then give me the ability to completely expand my domain"
I thought the more-likely vow was “I will extend every chance to Sukuna to acknowledge my morals, and the chance to return to me, in exchange I’ll be able to expand a domain”
how is bro pushing out fire so consistently
Man’s funny as hell and it seems so natural 😂
The Namani take actually made me sick ESPECIALLY after bro says he liked Nobara “death”
Unc I love Shinjuku but u didn't need to dunk on Shibuya to explain why you like Shinjuku better😭😭 like man, "I am you", out of character for Yuji?? It's specifically because of this moment that the final talk between Yuji and Sukuna hits so goddamn hard
That Nanami take gotta be one of the worst things I ever heard but to each their own I guess 💀
Saying Nobara’s “death” is better is even worse.
I didn't really feel anything when he died, either. If he had another arc to be fleshed out his death would've meant more
I lowkey kinda want some filler to make up for the lack of character interactions, like Yuki and Todo.
We’ll probably get that for the anime
I really hope we don’t get this. At least not from Yuki and Todo
@@soloooaj wtf why? I wanna know the life of Todo and Yuki also how he became strong
@@Rap-Slinger it wouldn’t be nothing more than just a fan favorite getting extra screen time it wouldn’t enhance the story for me personally. I’d rather see Gojo and Nobara interact more than that
@@soloooaj How dare both masters interact with their students
I like shibuya more. I prefered the general mahito vs yuji dynamic more then sukunas and yuji. Plus i will never forget how gege wasted kashimo soo mutch. both had weird endings but shinjuku just was worse since it was the final arc
For story telling. I believe shibuya is better, now straight hype and fun and buildup, its DEFINITELY shinjuku. Plus i think what added to this is the favt that both shibuya (anime)and shinjuku showdown(manga) were happeninng at the same time. That for sure made jjk get so much more traction imo
12:31 would have been cool if sukuna did a binding vow to do a partial merger and then yuji and megumi got to team up to fight it. And also with sukuna possessing the merger to show that he still can’t come to terms with dying
I do disagree with the notion, but agree that those parts are peak
my greatest gripe is with THE GOAT pannel of Yuji telling sukuna he can kill him, but afterwards he needs Nobara's help... I don't mind her comeback (as it was one of my """predictions""") but she could have helped him get the last black flash before he got the domain or something like that
still loved the ending tho
Shibuya was better paced and fun.
And better written
Basically blud had problem with Toji popping off in Shibuya while he wanted his goat Yuji to pop off and since he did in Shinjuku he loved Shinjuku more
Daffy why do you like Nobara’s death but not Nanami’s?
Don’t they have the same problem of not enough screen time with Yuji?
I personally think Kenjakus death was very good. You gotta understand that Takaba gave Kenjaku what he wanted, satisfying both of them, and kenjaku got distracted by this happiness he sought, only to get decapitated by Yuta who he loathes, but still having been satisfied by his battle with takaba regardless and passing his will to Sukuna.
People that think Kenjaku had a horrible death were just blinded by their own interpretations of the character and what he was actually meant to be imo
Hell no!. I know its the final arc but an arc that is literally just fighting 1 guy for 50 chapters is a low in general for me. Don't get me wrong Gojo vs Sukuna was peak but as a whole its nowhere near Shibuya. Hot take but I'd take the MHA final war arc over the Shinjuku showdown .
Thats such a surface level view of the arc. Yes that was the main event but its all the things that happened during that event is what makes it better than Shibuya
@soloooaj literally what happened but sukuna glaze, sukuna cyle and gota being useless. No characyer development happened except yuji and sukuna. Funny how the main villain feels more like a main character than the Mc. Shinjuku could've have been so much better . Shinjuku also proves that culling games wasn't even that good, just a ton of chars introduced just to be negative differ by sukuna later
@@2k3d Higaruma, Megumi, Yuta, and Takaba all had character development not to mention Gojo had really good characterization during his fight and after in flashbacks so you’re wrong about. In what ways did Shinjuku prove that CG wasn’t good?
Not Blue Lock 😭. it’s too easy to make fun of it at this point, Nagi tried saving it, but as soon as Sae started flying I knew the whole world was gonna clown the U20.
Ig this was made before the recent revel in bachi.
I don't think Mangaka ever do filler, BUT Mei-Mei's fight in shibuya was pretty close to being filler
I disagree. For me, Shibuya really made me feel like JJK was a classic, Shinjuku was just really good to me. The hype doesn't move me as much as story.
Not even close. Like yeah gojo vs sukuna was amazing but shibuya was overall extremely good and a more cohesive story.
7:19 the gojo character assassination comes from the fact that he died and immediately started glazing talking about he doesn’t think he could beat sukuna even without the 10S even tho sukunas whole plan and win con was based around the 10S not saying that his death was bad but it did seem a little out of character for the usual cocky arrogant gojo
Shinjuku has better peaks but lower falls.
bro out here just saying spoilers of other series not related to the main topic bro kagurabachi os now spoiled for me 😂😂😂
For the arcs are equal. I think themes are better in shinjuku but cast is better in shibuya
Short answer, *HELL NO!*
500% agree
Gege coming out and officially saying that Nobara wasn't coming back only for her to be back 3 chapters later ruined her return for me tbh
He never said that
Source of Gege saying that? The only hint I can think of is him saying at the end of the story it'll either be the three of the main cast (Megumi,Yuji Nobara) or only 1.
@@thefarmer6541yeah he only ever hinted it'd be 1 person left or all three left.
@ there was a thing where fans got to ask questions and some1 asked about Nobara specifically and he said she’s nt coming back. If you Google “Gege on Nobara” it’s pro’ly one of the first things that comes up
@KiddLucci22 I remember a fan asking gege about the Shibuya characters and he said he had already intended on removing nobara and nanami from the story before going in but that's not saying he killed her
3:15 I mean... to be fair, some dudes in chile built a shrine for uraha.
The kagurabachi glazing is outrageous
He never glazed Kagurabachi in this video 💀 and you’ve never read it I’m guessing
@ I’m reading rn dumb dumb and he did when he said that blind guy would’ve hit him harder than hanami but that’s just a nitpick still glazing tho
@@spookybones2248just say you never read it and we move on
Remind me who's kagurabachi?
@@proboiboy7677 a new manga in shonen jump that released last year. It’s great
Bro the gojo vs sukuna fight carried shinjuku tbh
Mid vs Mid idk man this is tuff especially for a story carried by hype and fights
It was the good character writing that made the fights hype
Geto is the best written character in jjk
Gojos death was handled horribly sorry, if it was done better I believe everything would’ve been better
I Think its a bit pretentious but i dont think its disrespectfull to gege at least considering gege really fumbled alot of things in the culling games but also the final fight in shinjuku gojo aside so im just curious to see what they do. Could be improvement. Could not be i wont judge until i see final product
Shinjuku had lower lows and higher highs
Shibuya had more narrative consistancy.
Gojo's death is an example but the reason its so massive is cause other than choso no one died. And choso dying was a given has the big bro so it almost like gege just wanted an excuse to kill him and the way he died went against his own narrative construction as a character...also the fact that Yuki survived being cut in half. Gojo's death to toji was more brutal and gruesome
sukuna kaisen with binding vows out the ass for limitations we did not know existed
Too many here say don't say....we must infer the plot moments
Uraume vs hakari
Or how Jacobs ladder is suddenly crazy useless as it can't even fuck with a near death heavy beaten sukuna who just swam through it like it was water like WTF
Megumi being is useless bum ass bitch with no redemption or self assertion. He just cried and got saved what a messy fucking final fight dude
Yuta gojo body shit is dumb...The technique ran out and yuta was in a dead body for 5 minuites and he didnt die but gojo did?....And they made it seem like an issue like yuta is gonna die....but he didnt?
Sukuna HOLDING BACK GUYS HOLDING BACK...Yuji puts all this effort multiple awakenings and sukuna is stressing getting pressured....And then sukuna just throws like paper as if he could do that at any time just to fight yuta in gojos body
Nah Shibuya slaps
Gojo's death was pain+pain, because not only did Gojo fans lose their favourite, but the lost the pillar of faith they've had for 5 years. A character they (together with Gege) had propped up to be untouchable, unkillable, invincible, a character whom Gege said he 'supposedly' didn't have . Before 236, Gojo fans could comfortably battle Goku and Saitama fans combined in a cross verse battle argument, but seeing Gojo die to someone they've perceived as the weaker opponent for years (and definitely throughout the fight), from a single slash that TORE through the infinity, something they thought to have transcended fiction itself...not only that, the most painful part of his death was seeing him glaze Sukuna. Cocky God Complex Obnoxious Arrogant Gojo bowing down to another sorcerer? Gege made sure they'd NEVER gonna forget 236, he intentionally ruined the shinjuku showdown experience for them (at least till they saw Sukuna defeated, then they got pressed again when Gojo was not given a funeral, but Sukuna closed off walking into the Sunset like a retired King lol).
This is a new level of glaze
@@redstaria963 people who say shibuya is better than shinjuku are ALL salty gojo fans tryna put down shinjuku because Gojo died in it, and trying to prop up shibuya arc because Hidden inventory was in it, but they aren't ready for that convo yet 🫠
Nah, Gojo’s death was still mishandled AND felt off, coming from a non-Gojo fan. Also, no one truly believed he could beat Goku or Saitama.
It’s kind of funny how Hunter X Hunter managed to surpass Shinjuku as a whole in a single go. But this is also his first worst, and he lost passion for it, so I suppose it’s not fair.
@@Spino-hx2mryou capping, and we both know. You're a Gojo fan, Gojo fans thought Gojo solos fiction with limitless, and HxH, despite coming out first, is already in the shadows of JJK! Using HxH to bash JJK has been the go-to for the hurt Gojo fan since 236. 'I'm not a Gojo fan' my ahh
@@TechGuru-zp6bu I often tend to argue the opposite considering bypassing his Infinity simply requires the ability of control space, something a *lot* of Characters can do. He isn’t challenging Goku or Saitama, let alone people below them in power who can control space.
And I haven’t really seen many people do that. Nor do I understand what you mean by ‘being in the shadows of JJK’ when its return is highly anticipated.
I think the fight was still good, but the off-screen was unnecessary and the explanation for World Cutting Slash convoluted. For the record, I thought Mahito was a better villain than Sukuna. That’s one of my main reasons for believing Shibuya is better than Shinjuku.
Love this thumbnail 🙏
I think its disrespectful to try to make a new ending because mha never got one and attack on Titan never got one where those guys don't people hate those ones? I personally think jjk ending ain't that bad its good
Hold it here.
Culling Games is better than both..
The greatest Battle Shonen Arc.
Chimera Ants:
Yes. I personally dont love shibuya.
Culling games clears both ngl, also wanted to add that it’s literally just a coincidence that geges writing fell off after killing gojo. Fundamentally it’s a bad ending. Rushed, lazy. Overall disappointing
Edit: 6:34 bruh imagine if they killed Kakashi or jiraiya offscreen literally crazy take dog
Shinjuku had Takaba.
Shinjuku better.
Shibuya Incident >>> Shinjiku Showdown arc
How ?
@@fuzzo2734 Because in my opinion the Shinjuku Showdown arc had too many flaws and inconsistencies to be a good arc
Sukuna should have easily killed most of his opponents during the final battle especially when he accessed Black Flash but they survived with no permanent injuries. Against the Strongest Sorcerer of History, this is a stupid joke.
Then there is the fact that Yuji's arc to self forgiveness is far too contrived, he was still thinking of killing himself when they met Yorozu but now he just forgives himself without showing the steps to achieving that?
Not only that, him forgiving Sukuna is preposterous, he hasn't been shown to possess any knowledge of Sukuna's backstory but he just assumes that Sukuna has had a pitiful life ostracized by others? Sukuna has shown the complete opposite as he presented himself as a chaotic psychopath, to make that claim that Sukuna had a sad life was completely unfounded by Yuji.
And then there was Megumi, after being plunged into despair when he was forced to murder his father figure and step sister, all it took was a little pep-talk from Yuji to lift his spirits up? That was incredibly rushed and it reduced all the development Megumi had built up during the series.
And then there is Nobara, she was just there as plot armour so Yuji could win the fight against Sukuna, it would have been better if she just died in Mahito so Yuji and Megumi could take him out together. She had minimal foreshadowing to a possible return and it was done during the last 5 chapters of the series
@@Nanabebe-m2rall I hear is 'I'm hurt Gojo died, so I will bash the arc he died, and praise the arc he ascended to be the strongest of today' lol. If Gojo had won against Sukuna, Shinjuku would have been the 'best arc in the history of shonen' for y'all, but he got humbled, and admitted his inferiority to another sorcerer, something y'all can't swallow, so you turn to bashing Gojo's creator and Shinjuku...
Shame on the hypocrites 😂
Takaba vs Kenjaku is still peak shinjuku. That arc was trash. I might even rate goodwill over it.
No.
❤❤❤ GeGe truly doesn't care about changing the ending because even the Manga wasn't where he wanted it but way more a community vote basically their version of Joker killing Jason Todd due to community votes but JJk had it in Japan.
Didn't even play the video yet and just gonna say now fuck no
I will be laughing my ass off If Jujutsu NO Kaisen goes beyond the ending of the original Jujutsu Kaisen and becomes an ongoing Manga series that becomes the future of the manga series Itself. 😆🤣
I'd rather eat glass than read that tbh
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I think Choso had the best death in Shinjuku
culling games solos both but pop off
Ight relax LMFAO
Maybe, definitely Shinjuku at least.
"Shinjuku arc is better than Shibuya arc!" said NO ONE ever
Shinjuku is hands down the best arc
Fck no. Imo it was mid as hell after the Gojo vs Sukuna fight. The whole arc is literally just 50 chapters of literally nothing but fighting 1 dude.
@@rand12389real it's just a big fight. We could've gotten more development, a more interesting fight than a fucking hp sponge. Flashbacks to heian eras, theme development and more
@@rand12389'it was mid after Gojo v Sukuna fight' is how to know someone whom 236 ruined the arc for them, when they loved only when Gojo was dominating, and closed their eyes off to PEAK simply because he isn't the one dishing such delicacy out no more. No matter what you hurt fans think, it's a FACT that Shinjuku slams, and Gojo seconds me on that 😂
Shinjuku was way better shibuya, It's just like that.
If you mean way better as fertiliser (feaces) then I would agree with you
Can't even call shinjuku an arc cause its literally just 50 chapters of fighting 1 dude lmfao,
@@Nanabebe-m2r Nah I mean it was the best arc of jjk
@@rand12389 "its literally just 50 chapters of fighting 1 dude" in shinjuku
@@Blaze57420 Other then choreography, I don't know how you can think Shinjuku Showdown is a superior arc to the Shibuya Incident or Hidden Inventory arcs. They are far superior in most other categories.
Shinjuku showdown had better fights, character moments, deaths, and we learned more about the power system and what was possible. Shibuya at most just had a better dynamic between Yuji and Mahito than Yuji and Sukuna
@@soloooaj Shibuya Incident characterised Gojo, Toji & Yuji very well and it was far more consistent while having greater peaks.
Personally Shibuya Incident has far superior fights, while the fights in Shinjuku Showdown did have good moments, the pacing was atrocious and there were massive plot holes such as Sukuna beating Gojo, Nobara saving Yuji and Sukuna not oneshotting some of the fodders he was facing.
Meanwhile Gojo had some great characterisation while he faced the Disaster Curses and Yuji had a very good character arc in the Shibuya Incident arc.
Besides Sukuna and Yuji is a far superior dynamic than Yuji and Mahito because their dynamic remained the same.
@@Nanabebe-m2r Yuji, Sukuna, Yuta & Gojo also had good characterization in Shinjuku I don’t think that’s something you can argue.
The pacing wasn’t atrocious, it just felt bad because we were reading it week to week and we all knew it was going to end with Sukuna’s defeat so it was more so just weekly fatigue. Anybody will tell you on a reread that the fight flowed much better.
The “plot holes” you named aren’t plot hole. I don’t see how they’re illogical or inconsistent with the story but if you didn’t like it then that’s fair. Sukuna was even stated by Higaruma himself to not be taking some of the fight seriously and not only that but you have to remember Yuji was weakening Sukuna the ENTIRE fight. So Sukuna’s cursed energy output was actively getting lower and lower.
You can even say Kenjaku and Takaba had good characterization along with a good fight
@@soloooaj I agree with Sukuna and Gojo having good characterisation during the Shinjuku Showdown arc but Yuta had inconsistent characterisation in the Shinjuku Showdown arc. He talked about becoming a monster for the sake of others and yet he couldn't even temporarily consume Nobara's arm without her consent? Completely ridiculous.
Yuji also had inconsistent characterisation during the arc. His arc to losing his "Cog" mentality was well executed but his journey to self forgiveness was completely rushed and contrived. He had no reason to assume Sukuna had a sympathetic backstory as he portrayed himself as a sadistic and chaotic cannibal who acts only for his own amusement as he wasn't shown having any knowledge of Sukuna's past. Gege only did that so "You are me" could happen which is a sad parody of "I am You".
Takaba also had good characterisation but I disagree with Kenjaku being the same, he had no new facets of him being revealed during their fight. All he did was provoke Takaba's character development.
Personally I disagree with the pacing, not enough was included. Hakari and Uraume not having their battle shown was disappointing and Megumi having his moment rushed and reduced to making a puddle is atrocious. But you are free to have an opinion.
Sukuna being the only one who can hide their cursed energy so Gojo cannot anticipate their attack is plot armour. This ability was only introduced to justify his victory over Gojo, it was never mentioned before.
Sukuna holding back is illogical considering he created a strategy allowing him to fight the protagonists at full strength. Holding back until he is starting to lose is just plot armor that justifies them defeating him
@@Nanabebe-m2r If you didn’t like Yuta’s decision that’s fine but I don’t think it’s an actual flaw in writing his character it’s more so just who he is as a character but I do see where it can come off as contradicting.
I actually do agree with the Yuji take, I thought the “You are me” moment was pretty weak and redundant. I also agree with the Kenjaku take I kinda just said that for the sake of argument lmao.
Hakari vs Uraume not being shown was disappointing but it’s not really a pacing issue because it’s clear Gege never intended to put actual focus on that fight which is why we didn’t see it so it never really interrupted the flow and pacing of the arc. I agree with the megumi take as well but aside from those two points and a couple things from the ending (chapter 267-268 specifically), the pacing of the arc was just fine and I think it’s too extreme to call it atrocious.
Also in what chapter was it stated that Sukuna hid his cursed energy??? If I remember correctly the justification was basically that Sukuna cut the space that Gojo existed in, which is basically cutting through space and time which is pretty much one of the very few ways that any character in other verses would have to do to bypass infinity so that’s pretty valid.
Sukuna holding back isn’t illogical because it’s consistent with his character. He could’ve beat Jogo and Yorozu much faster but he didn’t. Pretty sure there’s dialogue that I can’t think of off the top of my head to back up the fact that he likes to play with his food as well. You can call it plot armor but it’s just how the story was written but if you don’t like it that’s fair.
Preach!!!
personally thought shinjuku was awful 😭
'Gojo fans after 236' 😊
I really feel you on that nanami point, it made me sad but for Yuji mainly. It wasnt like Kamina in Gurren Lagann, i feel like i was ready for Nanami to die because he lost against Mahito before Yuji came to save him in the first season
I like the culling games colony arcs better than Shinjuku or Shibuya tbh
I think they were both equal. Shibuya executed its purpose perfectly to the story and so did shinjuku. Both had highs and lows.
I agree with you. I think ch 257 alone makes shinjuku the better arc. Finally getting to see Yuji use jujutsu especially against Sukuna was fulfilling as a longtime reader
Shinjuku>>>
Shibuya Incident >>> Shinjuku Showdown
@@Nanabebe-m2r number of hurt Gojo fans like due to 236>>>all fans and characters in fiction combined 😂
I, personally, think that Shinjuku just as good as Shibuya. I just wish we got more time for characters before Shinjuku. Maybe anime will fix that by putting some of the flashbacks before the Shinjuku showdown, but any that, i've enjoyed the arc.
I think they are both the same I will give Shibuya a slight edge though
5:54 Don’t manifest it Daffy.
I mean I like Shinjuku a lot more so there's that, in fact I like the second half of the series more
3 likes in 3 minutes, bro fell off 😂
Explain it then @TheOGDaffy12:08
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