Wolf River TIA Coil - Setup Tips
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- Operating portable with the Wolf River TIA Coil system. A brief setup video of how I configured the antenna. Hopefully, this is helpful to other operators using this antenna for initial setup.
Here is Wolf River's website where more information can be gleaned about the TIA:
www.wolfrivercoils.com/TIA.html
Here is a review of the Wolf River Silver Bullet 1000 coil from the July 2017 edition of QST magazine (reviewed by KB1HQS):
www.wolfrivercoils.com/images...
The kit includes: Wolf River Silver Bullet 1000 coil, telescoping whip (102" fully extended), machined base with SO-239 connector, (3) aluminum support legs w/ jamb-nuts, (3) radials x 33' long ea. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
Very helpful! Thank you! Just got mine today and was a bit frustrated at first, but didn’t give up. Your video will help me work this out. Very impressed with the Wolf River antenna!!
Thanks, Buddy! This is great stuff. Our cub just bought one and I will probably get one for my own portable use. Good video.
I see this setup on TH-cam by a lot of operators. I think I will get this for my portable rig over an end fed or dipole setup for ease of setup and range or bands. Thanks for sharing. I will bookmark this. You helped me with my FTM-100DR get setup on Wires-X PDN mode. I got into this late in life. I started last March with Tech and now Extra here this month. I enjoy your videos. Very informative!
Kevin KA0KAE
Great video on the Setup, have now got the FT891 and Wolf Coils many thanks keep the vids coming 73s
GREAT video, thanks for sharing, I needed this to get started with my TIA, it's a little finicky.
Excellent Information and Good video. I've got several TIA Wolf Ridge antennas; One in my portable case. I work a lot of VERY remote sites in Alaska and have been quite pleased with its portability and construction quality. I've had one SB 1000 sitting outside for 2 years and even at minus 40F (-40F) temperatures, it still works well. Dan KL1JP
Thank you for this VERY informative and helpful video on the Wolf River TIA 1000. I just got one, and this wil be of great help in zeroing in on the bands. I'm waiting for my HF radio from DX Engineering, and now I'm super-excited about what kind of contacts I'll make when my 991A arrives! :-)
Excellent! I know you will enjoy that 991A as well 😎
I've been waiting on a video like this, I have a 891 and a sb 1000. I've been in listening and learning mode because I don't have my ticket yet lol. THANKS!
You will certainly enjoy the hobby!
Thanks for the measurements.
I’ve tried a number of different whips with mixed results. I prefer the longer whip, I have the 213” whip and I have a Buddipole 17+’ shock cord whip. Both of these are resonant without any coil on 20m and higher. I use camping clothesline spools for the radials and have marked each radial with colored tape per band so that I can get a 1:1 match & a 50 Ohm feedpoint. I add the small coil to pick up 30m and 40m, I’ve not tried 80m yet, with the big coil, but that is my plan for camping, when the campsite allows, to have an 80m setup.
I bought the mega feet and the small feet for the tripod. So far I have only used the mega feet. Those large whips need a little guying or a bit of weight in the base to keep from toppling over in the wind (luckily I have a tree in my front yard where I’ve been testing these to catch the antenna when it starts to fall over).
I have Buddipole 66” and 114” whips as well that I intend to try for a more portable setup and more flexible in that I would need to keep at least the small coil on for the higher bands . I keep getting distracted by the larger whips though.
Our camping season starts this coming weekend (I will ignore winter camping up here as I’m not bringing a radio in the snow).
Thanks for posting.
This is a very good video. Thanks for all the hard work and sharing the measurements with us.
73 George KB3WAQ
Great video Brother GR!
Awesome video. Thanks. It was helpful.
Very helpful, many thanks!
Nice video on the WRC antenna system! 73, KB1HQS
Outstanding video, thanks, be blessed.
Just bought the TIA package and plan on using it on FD. Your video will save me some time setting it up. Thanks!
Great! That's what I was hoping for. Let me know how it works for you... 73
Extremely useful, thank you! 👍
Found these measurements for 102" whip measured from the bottom. Using a 102 inch whip
1 clicks from the bottom 3.550 Blue
10 clicks from the bottom 3.753
20 clicks from the bottom 3975
56 clicks from the bottom 5.300
83 clicks from the bottom 7.187
97 clicks from the bottom 10.100
106 clicks from the bottom 14.280
110 clicks from the bottom 18.100
To receive 12 and 10 meters use a shorter whip.
Excellent info! Thanks for sharing. I’ve actually been intending to try a 102” whip out on the system. 73!
Hello, Gray. I know you posted this a couple years ago, but I am a new General-licensed ham and purchased the WRC 1000 Platinum. I am having a terrible time getting my new Yaesu FT-710 to work with the antenna. I have mostly tried the 20M band working “portable” with a battery in my backyard. I have Parkinson’s Disease so the whole bonding/grounding issue is just too much for my brain right now. When you say the measurements for the 102 inch whip are from the bottom, do you mean from the bottom of the coil? I am currently getting nothing but static on 20M with an SWR measured at 1.7:1. Thanks for any advice you can give me!! Jim in Oregon
Nice video. I have the SOTA model. Instead of measuring I just count the “clicks” as the collar moves. I have a chart that tells me how many clicks up for each band. I find that very useful when operating at night where it’s hard to measure or see sharpie lines.
Where did you get the chart or did you make it yourself.
I am sure you know that IF YOU REMOVE THE LOADING COIL, you can work 6m and 10m by merely shortening the whip to approx 4'4" and 8'2.5" respectively. The will be no coil loss either. If you happen to have the center loading extension rods you can create a vertical antenna uo to approx four feet longer or 12' 6" long. With that, you can go as low as the 15m band with the coil.
Exceptionally good video! Good information and I like the way you made a very neat chart breaking down the details. I also print in all capital letters and pride myself on neatness when making charts...lol! I'll have to take a backseat to you though. Your print and artwork make me wonder if you were/are a draftsman. I also have an FT-891 for portable and was researching the Wolf River Coil on TH-cam to use as a portable antenna when I ran across your video. They should use your video on their website. Now subbed. Thanks and 73!
KX4UL Ham Radio ...thank you very much sir! Glad the video was helpful; thanks for the subscription. You tagged me, I’m an engineer. 73!
Thanks a bunch.....I'm considering one of these.....Data looks great....should shorten the setup time.
There is a spring that can be be put on it for mobile use, in case you hit something with the antenna. You will need to adjust because of the length of the spring!
Thank you for making your Measurements in INCHES instead of METRIC!!!! Well done!! Doc W7DOK
Metric is easier though.
Great info thanks!!!!!
thats dang impressive with such a small low antenna
thanks for sharing the measurements help me a lot 73 from kb2uew
i just discoverd your channel and subed ty.. for sharing this info iam going to copy your notes and go from there. 7 3
I’ve ordered a 90 degree female to male coax adapter. I set/mine up in the backyard and the adapter should make it easier to switch between the feed coax and the antenna analyzer.
Thank you very much
Have you tried the hustler ic-56 on this coil?
Great video thanks 73 from kb2uew
Nice video. I was curious how you run your coax into your camper? Do you just run it through a window or a more permanent connection?
Correct...thru a window with a towel to close the air gap.
Thanks for sharing. I’m looking at getting One of these antennas for portable use.What type of coax are you using?
I generally run 75 to 100 feet of RG8-X coax. Not the best for eliminating loss in the feedline, but works well enough for HF and is convienient to use when portable. 73
wow fantastic tips you number one 73 from kb2uew
Do you have issues with tuning the coil and by touching the plastic collar SWR goes all over the place. I am assuming it’s a grounding issue and i need more radials?
I have not had any issues with that. I have noticed at times that the radials can become loose on the attachment at the legs. Also, check that the plastic set screw is holding the tap collar firmly in place. If you are near the antenna while tuning, your proximity may affect the SWR as well.
What kind of antenna analyzer did you use? I find my Youkits FG-01 to be indispensable for antenna tuning. Also, I assume your tuner was not in the circuit when you did your adjustment or tuning chart.
Dave K8WPE
David J. Wilcox ...correct, I used a Comet CAA-500 Mk II for the analyzer.
@@GhostRider1974 I was going to ask the same question.
Forgot to add, tuner was not in the circuit. I used the analyzer at the antenna feed point with a semi-short section (25 feet) of coax. 73!
Hi, Just found your video and really enjoyed it. I will be ordering this antenna within the next week. Would it be possible to get a copy of your chart? Thanks, Jim
Howdy! If your email is correct on QRZ, I just sent the PDF to you. Thx for watching.
@@GhostRider1974 Got it. Thanks
Do you measure the whip from the same place that you measure the shorting tap position?
That’s correct!
Thank you for sharing. Would you be willing to share your sheet with the measurements?
Sure…I’m good on QRZ , de KM4RT
I have my Wolf River Coils TIA Mega tripod and my FT-891 is coming tomorrow. Is there any need for a tuner. I see you have one. I have a LDG tuner for each HF radio I own I was thing of not getting one for the SB-1000. Thanks! I have your notebook measurements info copied into a spreadsheet.
Yes, my mileage may vary, but it should get me close. Even the longer tripod legs might make a difference and I have a 50' RG8X coax but I have a analyzer.
An external tuner isn’t specifically required, but it may be useful to cut down on the number of fine-tune adjustments at the antenna to get you on the air faster.
@@GhostRider1974 Thanks! Going to order the Z-100 soon. I suppose the Yaesu cable doesn't come with it.
Yeah, you guessed it. Cable is additional 🤨
do you any chance have that chart with all the measurements available to share . I just recieved my 1sy wolf river coil
Shoot me an email. I’m good on QRZ…de KM4RT, 73
Having a hard time tuning 30/40/75m with my SB1000 and 213" whip. Any pointers on this setup would be great as I am getting sunburned and frustrated (LMAO).
Use an antenna analyzer at or near the antenna to see if you can find the resonant positions...mark those or measure and record the position. Use of the (3) radials is very important for getting the antenna to tune properly. 73
Brother would you please tell me which radio 📻 is best yaesu ft-891 or yaesu ft 450d please give me solution
Please let me know
This is s21vb from Bangladesh
73
Howdy! Well, they are both great radios. I have owned a FT-450D as well. The FT-450D is larger and is less menu driven. The FT-891 is compact / portable, has a detachable face, and has a more advanced filtering and digital noise reduction; however, the FT-891 is much more menu-driven. I would recommend the FT-891 because of its compact size and advanced noise reduction / filtering.
@@GhostRider1974 thank you so much
i will buy in next month
I will contact you
73
DO have someplace I could download your sheet with the measurements?
Absolutely; Let me know your email and I will send it to you.
Going to try this. I have 50ft of RG8X. I have had the WRC 1000 for many months and can't get it tuned even with my analyzer. Very disheartening.
It's very sensitive..so once you get it set up down etc twisted in tiny tiny movements
Hope this helps🤠
I mean left or right.
Thanks nice video 73 from kb2uew
That is the one thing I haven’t done, is use a tuner with this. I’ve been tweaking the radials and the tap for resonance. It looks like you are using the full 33’ of radials and not adjusting them at all as you move through the bands. I am going to try one of my smaller whips and do what you are doing here. Your approach at measurements and positioning appear to be way more predictable and repeatable than mine. I just built a Hardrock 50 with an ATU for my KX2, I won’t be without a tuner in the field this year.
Thanks for the video. This looks like the antenna I will begetting for myself. Is a PDF copy of your notes available?
David Harden - I can email you a copy. My email is good on QRZ...shoot me an email and I will reply. 73 de KM4RT
@@GhostRider1974 I watched this video again and remembered you had sent me the notes. Thanks so much for doing this. I have got to try my WRC TI! this week, now that the weather has cooled. 73
Thanks.
I'll Give it a try with your measurements. I couldnt do any better that 3:1 SWR with analyzer. Do you also elevate antenna or leave it on the ground. Have you noticed any measurement differences between elevated or on ground?
@@kd4kzz I leave it on the ground, but supposedly elevation helps.
Good video, I also have the TIA and have been on 40 and 30. I’ve tried to find 10 but could not find it. I think your video is going to help. 73 kk4qyn
Interestingly enough, when wolf river does their videos on the silver bullet 1000 and the mini, they conveniently skip over the 10 meter band when they are showing how to tune it. i suspect somethings rotten in denmark with this antenna on 10 meters.
Try shortening the whip antenna and is should work. That is what I needed to do.
@@skippyi6969 10m on FT8 two clicks down from top of SB 1000 and 65 half inch whip (102" WR C supplied).... swr 1.3 73 2E0HCE
Do you have a copy of your chart available????
Yes, shoot me an email and I can send it.
Will the 213” whip work with this set up
I have not tried longer whips than the extendable 102" whip that came with the coil, but I'd think a 213" whip would, but would mean the tap locations would shorten on the coil. It will probably only tune at that length on (7 MHz) 40m and lower. 73
@@GhostRider1974 stuck between this and a super antenna
Getting any transmission out of the Ukraine? Didn’t know how or if any ham traffic is coming out of there.
Is there a pdf of this?
I have a scanned image of my notes; will send if you will email me or send me your email.
@ Ghost Rider your measurement for the antenna whip for 10m at 65 1/2 inches is spot on for FT8 contacts all over Europe 73 2E0HCE
Fantastic! Glad it worked for you sir! 73
Is there a place to print out your chart?
No, but I can email one to you if an email address can be obtained.
@@GhostRider1974 dmazz9@gmail.com
Can u send me a copy of chart to KN4ODP@gmail.com
Great and informative video, Thank you ! de WA4ONV
Check out this one! The coil works great for portable use. and is weather proof! 73 th-cam.com/video/zE054tHpQYE/w-d-xo.html