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Very helpful video! I am suffering from the wrist pain and even shoulder pain cause by the trackpad. After using my middle finger, it does relieve some pain. I am still adjusting to it. Thank you so much for the tips and suggestions in this video.
Insanely useful video. I can't believe I'm using a broken NOMAD wireless charger as a wrist pad. Middle finger is taking a while to get used to but it reduced the pain in my arm as soon as I gave it a try so I will do my best to get past that learning curve. Thank you for sharing your knowledge in ergonomics on a rather niche Mac accesory.
Could you please do a video about the best hands position on a Macbook pro? It’s such a pain in the wrists using the Macbook trackpad while typing. I’d appreciate that.
Thank you so much for making this video! Extremely helpful in figuring out the best wrist position for my new trackpad. My goal is to improve my posture at my desk, so this was very helpful!
Super informative video, I was stressing about the risks of using the trackpad since I find it so useful on a mac, your video helped a lot. One question, my trackpad is placed further in on my desk, so my entire arm is planted while my wrist is usually hovering, is that better or worse?
Do you have a video to show how much of the arm should be resting on the table in front of the trackpad? Meaning, how far in front of one should the trackpad (and wrist rest) be?
Thanks a ton for the tips, having pain in that carpal area after using my tackpad frequently lately (planting my wrist) :/ and now I know I need to change some things up!
hi! not quite sure if this was covered here but in relation to using one's middle finger as a primary pointer -- does it follow, then, that for scanning/browsing (the typical two finger scroll), one will now use the middle WITH the fourth finger (next to the pinky)? or do we shift back to the usual (old) pointer plus middle finger for that? would appreciate any response to this. thank you!
If you can the index finger and ring finger are going to be the best ergonomic practice for two finger scrolling. The index finger should be avoided for gestures. Thumb and middle are best for zoom.
Where do you rest the hand when you're not moving the pointer? Not sure if I should just let all my fingers sit on the trackpad, or rest my hand on the side. Also, do you use the middle finger for clicking as well? Thumb seems like it might make more sense.
Agreed about the Macbook Pro trackpad. I have chronic significant pain now in the palm area right under the thumb next to the wrist from it. Any suggestions welcome. It even "cracks" a little when you move the thumb.
the area between my thumb and wrist started hurting after using the trackpad for ~ 2 months. I realised that i have to lift my thumb in the air to avoid touching the trackpad. in contrast, using a mouse, my thumb is rested on the mouse pad or on the mouse itself. Over time this can strain the thumb and cause issues. I switched back to my mouse and my thumb stopped hurting after a day. IMO the best placement of the trackpad is between the keyboard and yourself, just like the macbook's placement. that way you can rest your hands on the side of the trackpad and move your hand to the keyboard and trackpad quickly.
I'm looking at a trackpad vs Kensington rollerball. what you thought on these (I have an MX Master 3 and it causes me issue on my radial nerve and fore arm)
The Kensington rollerball will typically encourage better posture and motions than a trackpad. I’ll talk about trackball mice such as the Kensington next vid! Thanks for the idea :) and hope to address your questions. I recommend having someone look at your technique and coach you through mouse use techniques and selection based on your specific condition. I can only guess what you’re doing based on what you’re telling me which won’t do it justice.
i have a problem with the pinkie finger, as can see in the video yo never rest that finger and stay in the air for to long and thats evoke some kind of pain after long hours of work, any suggestions?
I would either encourage you to "tent" your hands. If you are using the mouse with your right hand for example: with your hand in handshake posture, you would relax the meatiest part of your palm on the desk, then you will use your fingers to tent your wrist into a 45 degree angle (pronation direction) over the mouse. The resting contact will be right next to the bottom right corner. With the mouse isn't so important to keep your fingers from extending out as when you're typing so you can get range if you perch (understandable when using a trackpad). .
@@ergonmx5658 Thanks, yes, i use a trackpad, my solution, was elevate the trackpad a few inches, then my small finger rest on the desk. appreciate your advice!
Isn't easier to just using your thumbs to manage your cursor with the rest of the hands and arms resting, and then moving your hands, etc, to use the keyboard or make a gesture in the trackpad or touchpad in your laptop? Even for left-clicking and dragging stuff, you can still be using your thumbs.
This one is expensive but worth the money: www.amazon.com/Elasto-Gel-Cold-Heat-Therapy/dp/B0029NBZZ0/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1523833647&sr=8-12&keywords=elasto+gel+pad
Hi, I have started to use a trackpad one month ago with new iMac and I today I’ve noticed a very hard pain in my hand. I am a doctor and the symptoms are obviously of ulnar neuritis. I understand your point about the wrist but my problem is probably linked with shoulder stress. Do you know any way to reduce this stress? Maybe to put the trackpad out of table? Thanks a lot.
That was a great video thank you so much! Can you please comment on using three and four fingers because the trackpad uses different functionality for three fingers (drag-and-drop etc) and four fingers for mission control functionality
I have one and use it on a daily basis as i am a graphic designer. Wouldn’t recommend it because it’s too flat. You end up putting strain on your wrist. I eventually needed to go to the doctor because of wrist strain. Couldn’t work for a couple days as i was in sooo much pain. Doctor had to put a cast on my hand.
Magic mouse is also very hard to use properly! It has some of the features of the trackpad built in and so that's gotta be why they designed it so flat. You should apply the same ideas mentioned in this video but also be aware of how you grasp the device and to actively lift the hand when moving the device. I've gotta post on that.
Gotta get creative sometimes. I think it goes along the lines of any homemade solution encourages some trial and error based on comfort. Always a good thing to listen to your body.
play this at 1.25 speed
I think 1.5 would be better
@@yohanes-ai Definitely better ...
I watched at x2 and still got dead bored
2.5x is even better
Even faster is better, but great advice. We need to do an “UH”counter on this do. Before, during, and after each thought, lol.
That was really helpful and I'm looking forward to trying out the new hand placement with my trackpad! Thank you!
Very helpful video! I am suffering from the wrist pain and even shoulder pain cause by the trackpad. After using my middle finger, it does relieve some pain. I am still adjusting to it. Thank you so much for the tips and suggestions in this video.
middle finger trick is kind of relief for me, thank you.
Insanely useful video. I can't believe I'm using a broken NOMAD wireless charger as a wrist pad. Middle finger is taking a while to get used to but it reduced the pain in my arm as soon as I gave it a try so I will do my best to get past that learning curve. Thank you for sharing your knowledge in ergonomics on a rather niche Mac accesory.
Awesome video on a rarely discussed but very important topic.
TY, this was extremely helpful, there are no videos about trackpad/touchpad + ergonomics out there.
Very useful, been getting occasional fatigue and numbness in my fingers lately so I'll have to try this out, thanks!
An amazingly helpful video. Awesome. Thanks
Excellent video - thank you for your help!
seeing your shirt, instant like. rock on!
Thanks a lot. I just switched from decades of mouse onto a trackpad. Hopefully your advices will help me avoid fatigue in my fingers and shoulder.
Thank you for making this video! I have so much pain on the shoulder after switching to trackpad. Wish I could have watched this video earlier.
Very very helpful! Loved this. Thank you!
Thank you for this video!
Could you please do a video about the best hands position on a Macbook pro? It’s such a pain in the wrists using the Macbook trackpad while typing. I’d appreciate that.
Thank you so much for making this video! Extremely helpful in figuring out the best wrist position for my new trackpad. My goal is to improve my posture at my desk, so this was very helpful!
Glad to help. Humanscale and Kensington make the best pads for the trackpad. If you were looking...
@@ergonmx5658 Thank you! Yeah I am actually lol
Good explanation.
Obrigado pelas dicas ❤ não há nada explicando assim gratidão
Hello, thank you for the video I enjoyed watching it, what would you would you say is the most ergonomic, trackpad versus a mouse?
Thank you!
Super informative video, I was stressing about the risks of using the trackpad since I find it so useful on a mac, your video helped a lot. One question, my trackpad is placed further in on my desk, so my entire arm is planted while my wrist is usually hovering, is that better or worse?
Do you have a video to show how much of the arm should be resting on the table in front of the trackpad? Meaning, how far in front of one should the trackpad (and wrist rest) be?
Thanks a ton for the tips, having pain in that carpal area after using my tackpad frequently lately (planting my wrist) :/ and now I know I need to change some things up!
Very helpful. Thank you!
thanks for the video, very useful, cheers!
hi! not quite sure if this was covered here but in relation to using one's middle finger as a primary pointer -- does it follow, then, that for scanning/browsing (the typical two finger scroll), one will now use the middle WITH the fourth finger (next to the pinky)? or do we shift back to the usual (old) pointer plus middle finger for that? would appreciate any response to this. thank you!
If you can the index finger and ring finger are going to be the best ergonomic practice for two finger scrolling. The index finger should be avoided for gestures. Thumb and middle are best for zoom.
Helpful middle finger i'll have to use it more often cheers :)
Thank you
thank you, very informative
Where do you rest the hand when you're not moving the pointer? Not sure if I should just let all my fingers sit on the trackpad, or rest my hand on the side. Also, do you use the middle finger for clicking as well? Thumb seems like it might make more sense.
Rest your hand in a loose handshake position with fingers holding your hand in supination.
Agreed about the Macbook Pro trackpad. I have chronic significant pain now in the palm area right under the thumb next to the wrist from it. Any suggestions welcome. It even "cracks" a little when you move the thumb.
the area between my thumb and wrist started hurting after using the trackpad for ~ 2 months. I realised that i have to lift my thumb in the air to avoid touching the trackpad. in contrast, using a mouse, my thumb is rested on the mouse pad or on the mouse itself. Over time this can strain the thumb and cause issues.
I switched back to my mouse and my thumb stopped hurting after a day.
IMO the best placement of the trackpad is between the keyboard and yourself, just like the macbook's placement. that way you can rest your hands on the side of the trackpad and move your hand to the keyboard and trackpad quickly.
Do you have a link on where to buy that Comfort Aid gel pad? I didn't find anything on Google search or Amazon. Thanks.
I'm looking at a trackpad vs Kensington rollerball. what you thought on these (I have an MX Master 3 and it causes me issue on my radial nerve and fore arm)
The Kensington rollerball will typically encourage better posture and motions than a trackpad. I’ll talk about trackball mice such as the Kensington next vid! Thanks for the idea :) and hope to address your questions. I recommend having someone look at your technique and coach you through mouse use techniques and selection based on your specific condition. I can only guess what you’re doing based on what you’re telling me which won’t do it justice.
Buy both and try them 2 weeks at a time. At the end return 1.
Underrated video!
which one is more ergonomic between this trackpad and a magic mouse?
This makes sense!!
i have a problem with the pinkie finger, as can see in the video yo never rest that finger and stay in the air for to long and thats evoke some kind of pain after long hours of work, any suggestions?
I would either encourage you to "tent" your hands. If you are using the mouse with your right hand for example: with your hand in handshake posture, you would relax the meatiest part of your palm on the desk, then you will use your fingers to tent your wrist into a 45 degree angle (pronation direction) over the mouse. The resting contact will be right next to the bottom right corner. With the mouse isn't so important to keep your fingers from extending out as when you're typing so you can get range if you perch (understandable when using a trackpad). .
@@ergonmx5658 Thanks, yes, i use a trackpad, my solution, was elevate the trackpad a few inches, then my small finger rest on the desk.
appreciate your advice!
you could put something on your finger to make it not work on the pad
Is a trackpad better for your wrist than a mouse?
Isn't easier to just using your thumbs to manage your cursor with the rest of the hands and arms resting, and then moving your hands, etc, to use the keyboard or make a gesture in the trackpad or touchpad in your laptop? Even for left-clicking and dragging stuff, you can still be using your thumbs.
really helpful!!!
Do you have an amazon link to purchase the gel pad? Thanks
This one is expensive but worth the money:
www.amazon.com/Elasto-Gel-Cold-Heat-Therapy/dp/B0029NBZZ0/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1523833647&sr=8-12&keywords=elasto+gel+pad
Ergonmx Thanks, man!
Watching this I just could get passed all the humm hums hmmm OMG!
Hi, I have started to use a trackpad one month ago with new iMac and I today I’ve noticed a very hard pain in my hand. I am a doctor and the symptoms are obviously of ulnar neuritis. I understand your point about the wrist but my problem is probably linked with shoulder stress. Do you know any way to reduce this stress? Maybe to put the trackpad out of table? Thanks a lot.
That was a great video thank you so much! Can you please comment on using three and four fingers because the trackpad uses different functionality for three fingers (drag-and-drop etc) and four fingers for mission control functionality
Great review. How do you think about the ergonomics of Magic Mouse?
I have one and use it on a daily basis as i am a graphic designer. Wouldn’t recommend it because it’s too flat. You end up putting strain on your wrist. I eventually needed to go to the doctor because of wrist strain. Couldn’t work for a couple days as i was in sooo much pain. Doctor had to put a cast on my hand.
Magic mouse is also very hard to use properly! It has some of the features of the trackpad built in and so that's gotta be why they designed it so flat. You should apply the same ideas mentioned in this video but also be aware of how you grasp the device and to actively lift the hand when moving the device. I've gotta post on that.
No one wants to get the Carpel during Big Rona. Ergonomics for the win!
Like the vid!
Welll I made a wrist holder pad with a couple of unused socks... hahaha
Gotta get creative sometimes. I think it goes along the lines of any homemade solution encourages some trial and error based on comfort. Always a good thing to listen to your body.
Thanks for the video it's helpful. Yeah I belong to the middle finger gang as well.
1:52 to placement. I know what a track pad is.
How ergonomic is 360p for my eyes
i literaly had to increase the playback speed in 2x in order to be able to watch your video
SAME.
we hope you're ok after such an effort
Dude I watched on 2x and still had the urge to skip because you take so long to come to the point
Next time maybe think of what you want to say first, other than that it Was still informative
painful to listen to..
Oh my god, get to the fucking point!
Thank you!