Ranking TOP Language Learning Apps (Tier List)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video I rank 12 of the most popular language learning apps from best to worst!
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Yo get this app out quick 😤😅
How long do you think, will it take, until you drop your app?
@@SI-rv9te Lmaooo
Is it a paid subscription or a free to use app?
Anyone knows a App to Learn Japanese or I need just wait for Ikenna App?
Don’t forget to make your app accessible to people like me who are totally blind and ghave to use Voice Over on their iPads. Accessibility is another feature I look at when considering what program to use.
I feel like that’d be a feature they’d have to add later if they haven’t already. That or they’ll try to add too much and will go under cus lack of revenue
Sorry if this offends you but are you actually completely blind like 100%???
@@peroporque7651 Yes. Ever since I was born, my eyes won't stay open for long, and even if they did, all I see is... black, blank space. It's a neurological condition.
@@takuyamatsuda7214 accessibility from the get go is probably easier than tacking it on when the app is done
One of my students who I teach German to is blind and I was wondering what Apps I could recommend him. Do you have any recommendations of Apps that can easily be used by blind people for language learning?
S - Fluyo, Language Transfer.
A - Clozemaster, Pimsleur, Tandem.
B - Duolingo, Drop, Busuu, Lingvist, Hellotalk, Memrise.
C - Babbel.
D - Rosetta Stone
I was looking for exactly this. Ty
Thanks for posting.
I like Babble, but I think it is easy to agree how bad Rosetta Stone is.
Love him or hate him, That walk at the start was smooth
On me
Dead🤣🤣🤣
@@quengdem2249 timestamp?
love it or hate it when duolingo points a gun at your head you have to teach yourself a language
Your one thousandth like
The biggest issue with Duolingo is everyone treats it like it's an app made to be the ONLY thing you use, even though they have podcasts in the languages you're learning so it's not just the app, short stories involving their characters to help break up the standard learning, and getting past the first "basics" opens up how much better the app and company have gotten over the years. Duolingo as an app is absolutely not meant to be the only thing you use, and when people stop treating it like it is, it really raises it up.
I definitely agree that Duolingo is far more useful when used in combination with something else, But I don't think it's really the users' fault, Atleast not entirely, Duolingo does very little, From what I've seen, To try and get you to use other things for learning the language, Especially when those things aren't directly connected to Duolingo, And I believe they even suggest in some places that you can learn the language pretty well solely through Duolingo.
@@rateeightxthey are connected directly
@@Dozier331 What other things can you use for learning a language that are directly connected to Duolingo?
It’s a practice app
@@extremejetfiredisagree. I use it for learning grammar, writing, vocab. Use anki for conjugation practice. language drops for vocab. duolingo podcast for comprehension. read lang for reading
This was a very interesting and well thought out tierlist! A lot of times they feel a little bit like they are a tierlist just for the sake of the trend, but this actually provided really great information. Also I'm SO pumped for your app!! So excited for it.
Not only was the video informative, but it was also entertaining. Ikenna really drop a gem with this video
@@AfroLinguo Yes fr it adds some perspective and with his explanations I can truly see the app in its entirety.
@@stadi7992 what's the mystery app ???out
Honestly, Duolingo works great for me. I'm learning Spanish and it has been going really well so far. And it's been a little over a year.
@@lavanyasaxena4326 I hear German is good too, you just have to pick the OG courses that have had a lot of time, a lot of contributors, a lot of community input, and a lot of learners (more incentive to fix/refine things that are the most popular as it keeps more people engaged which means more people viewing ads)
¿Hablas español? ;-)
I am a native Spanish speaker, I learned English in school and the internet, mostly the internet. I also learned French at school, which I have 99.99% forgotten from disuse.
I have used Duolingo to learn German, and also a bit of Russian. I have tried out a few other languages on there, but only a few lessons. Anything with an alphabet, sillabary etc other than the latin one I feel you are better off learning how to read and type elsewhere.
too' I'm also learning Japanese and it's really fun and effective for me.
Omg same bro
Duolingo gets a harsh wrap but it immensely ignited the flame in me to start my language learning journey and showcased how possible it is to start. It deserves more credit than it's usually given and he makes a great point about it, that it's much more efficient as a supplier than your main source.
This whole video was great and very informative, amazing job!
i dont like their woke approach but their methodology is proven and borderline unrivalled.
There are definitely some problems with Duolingo, But I will agree it does get somewhat of a bad wrap, It's still a lot better than many competitors, In some ways atleast.
@@juhadexcelsior"woke" its a learning app dude
@@whyaminotoriginal i stand on what I said. Also duo is trash now, that paths update is hilariously awful 😂 I moved to Busuu
@@juhadexcelsior How is Duolingo "woke"? 💀
lingo deer is definitely underrated. c: the references you are provided with in each lesson and exercise (which are varied, even giving nod to GRAMMAR, spelling, culture, and historical treats) is so in-depth, especially for east asian languages. they do have english, french, spanish, german, portuguese, russian, italian, and vietnamese available as well. a huge plus: the audio clips, as they're spoken from natives, instead of robots.
LingoDeer is especially useful for Asian languages!
I love lingodeer so much:)
I really like Lingodeer, 100% recommended
I've never heard of lingodeer, I'm suprised it wasn't included in this video. Thanks for that
LingoDeer Plus is the gamified version 💕
Lemme try and predict - he's going to praise the apps that will never ever have the languages I study
Exactly lmao, why they have weird little known languages like swahili, but they dont have Russian, Hindi or Egyptian Arabic???
@@tismoineau2646 I'm learning Swahili 😂😂 but you are right, it's a little backwards isn't it
@@mannyk7100 just watch lion king😂
@@taste.witha.t 🤣🤣 good resource right there
@@mannyk7100 language transfer has Swahili, for those of you who want to hook up with pumbaa lol
The problem with duolingo is that its method is to get you to memorize specific sentences rather than teach you to basic grammar and phrases.
Even that, i find duolingo one the best apps ever to learn, for me has been the most effective
While it definitely varies from language to language, And it seems to be worse now after one of their most recent updates, I'd say they do a decent job of teaching the grammar. If you just memorise every sentence you get, I'd say you're not doing it right, You're meant to come to a point where you can understand the sentences, Tell why they are how they are, And then apply that logic to other sentences you don't know, Or to ones you've forgotten.
@@JoNesBlacKkrafkini it definitely depends on the language french is super easy on Duolingo, Russian how ever is much more difficult due to its grammar
right?? so much left to be desired with grammar
Lingodeer is better.
I understand that for language learning apps that run on desktop as well, the vast majority of users are on mobile so the financial incentive to make a desktop version would be low, but for more serious language learners I hope you consider a desktop version too
It is true that desktop versions aren't very popular, but I find them to be really helpful. It is easy to get stuff done on your computer as compared to your phone. Once you sit infront of your computer, your brain kinda lets you know that it is time to get serious.
Which one do you recommend ?
@@AfroLinguo which desktop ones do you recommend?
Up
You can run android apps on PCs, whether you are running Windows, MacOS or *nix
Nowadays it's even built into Windows, but there is plenty of third party software to do so, line Nox Player or Bluestacks
yeah, if youre a girl/woman/female presenting person men tend to use tandem etc as a flirting device. especially like old men will like tell the app theyre 25 when theyre like 50 so they can bypass your age filter
The idea of telling them to fuck off in spanish or something then blocking is very funny to me
Yeah but they're stricter on the flirting now and ban anyone being flirty or sending pictures
The mystery app sounds like it's getting all the good features from the other apps into 1, which is impressive, but also... I'm hesitant about having 1 app trying to do too many things. We'll have to ultimately see it of course, but looking forward to it.
Also, just wanna thank you for actually being an honest person about using these apps etc. So many language TH-camrs will promote app's even if they don't believe in them (e.g. for ad revenue... can't blame them). Just very refreshing to hear your honest brutal thoughts on these apps because for the casual user, who may only speak 2 languages, it can feel quite isolating using an app that doesn't feel good/work for them, but hearing someone who has learnt many languages raise the exact same negatives you found with the app is really encouraging! Love the content bro
I agree with your comments on Memrise. It doesn't feel as good as it used to be. I'm so excited for all the new videos you've been pumping out, and especially for the app! I hope us as a community are able to help you and your team make it the best it can be! Wish nothing but the best for you!
You complained about Rosetta Stone charging $500 to teach you a full language, but your course to teach us just how to BEGIN to learn a language is $200? I was super excited too. :(
which language are you learning? I can suggest my favorite recommendations
I think this video is in general not very valuable and pretty subjective. Just stop watching his videos. It helped me
@@hisfavleo Can you please suggest any app to learn Spanish?
@@phantasma9391Ouino, not very known but so underrated, i have the lifetime spanish purchase. it teaches verb conjugations, grammar, vocabulary and pronunciation
Unless they've really changed their approach, Rosetta Stone won't teach you a full language. I used Rosetta Stone German back when they were charging $600 for the full course; you can finish all 5 levels and still be a beginner.
Depending on the language, you might be able to get pretty far using Duolingo + Tandem/HelloTalk (Duolingo for vocab/grammar, Tandem/HelloTalk for conversation practice), and by Googling any grammatical concepts you don't understand (Duolingo doesn't explain grammar, which can be frustrating). That's one of the most budget-friendly ways of learning.
For about $200 you can also get a 1-year subscription to an Innovative Language course, which can get you to B1 (lower intermediate) or B2 (upper intermediate/proficient), depending on how popular the language is. Innovative Language will also teach you grammar and some conversation skills, so it's not frustrating like Duolingo.
Dude...I tried out Language Transfer today after watching this video. On track 4 of German and wow. After 30 minutes of this site I learned sooo much. I've studied German casually off and on for years (very casually). Mostly picking up vocabulary and basic grammar rules but not much in the line of actual conversation. LT gets you going very quickly and makes everything feel so intuitive. Definitely going to finish it out and I expect to be much farther along in my studies in just a few easy days. I'm looking forward to your app too. I'm sure it'll be amazing!
as someone who is learning Hungarian with a full time job, I can only really use duolingo, anki and drops. I like duo because it teaches you Hungarian word order which is super difficult and reinforces grammar points that I've already read about in my grammar textbook. anki I use for the 500 most common words in Hungarian and for vocab I've learnt in previous courses and italki lessons. drops is good for seasonal vocab which is good for spontaneous situations
So when are you going to start immersing in Hungarian?
@@Acro_LangLearn I visited my grandma in Hungary for a month this year to practice and she also came over for Christmas. Also now that I'm changing my career, I'll have more time to do audio courses and invest in an italki teacher. I also listen to a lot of Hungarian indie rock and I aim to learn the lyrics of some of my favourite songs.
@@coolpersonwithcake98 I wish you good luck with your studies! :)
Hey Ikenna!! Your the reason why I've been really interested in learning languages for the past 2 years. Thankyou so much for continuing to upload~ I really appreciate everything you do and thank you so much for teaching us for free! I intend on buying your book in the future because it looks very promising. I hope you stay safe and have a good day!
I used busuu for ages but I've started to get demotivated from it for my French learning. Really hoping to get your app soon! Plus my company will be introducing classes soon so I cant wait to improve my French
I’m so excited for your app can’t waitttt. I signed up for the mailing list. I hope the French courses will be 🔥 because I know that’s one of your strongest languages
Wish we would have gotten an release window
Duo lingo will take you to b1 level in Spanish, from 0 for a free app i think thats pretty good
It says it gets you to b1 is that true in actuality
@@YogaBlissDance I would say on the Spanish tree after level 5 is B1 level. But even if it only gets you to A2 that’s good considering it’s free
@Rei Did you gold every skill or did you do one crown on each and move on?
Also the learning app you are making sounds amazing🤯. Cant wait till it comes out! :)
As someone who just started learning Spanish im going with Language Transfer & Pimsleur. Also using the book, Madrigal's Magic Key to Spanish. Of course every chance listening to people talk in it via podcasts and such.
there’s an app called olingo that gives free books (like harry potter and such) that you can read in the language you’re learning!!
Super excited for your language app, but a bit scared that it's gonna be expensive. How much is it gonna be? Will there be parts of the app that are free to use?
agreed!
I’m just hoping It helps with remembering grammar better and listening comprehension
@@newagehero9605 Well, you do not need to study grammar that much imo. I would just gloss through the grammar points and just consume content in my target language to internalize the grammar.
Still undecided, wont be expensive though (goal is under $9 a month) + we may do something where the price scales to the country you are in. So people in lower GDP countries aren't paying a few days salary for an app. Still undecided if there will be a free section of the app either, but either way we'll have a free trial system similar to Netflix. So people will be able to try it out and see if its for them prior to paying anything. :)
@@IkennaLanguages I have an idea. How about you make up a currency for the app and we buy the lessons with that currency? We can get the currency for free by running ads. If you don't want to run ads then you can get the premium trial.
The problem on top of all this is, a lot of these are really inconsistent, Duolingo for example is really shit for English to German
English to Japanese etc
but the German to Spanish, German to French are actually pretty good.
I'm assuming that also applies to other languages as well? (English to swedish, or English to Finnish as an example)
it is, but what i can say for french from portuguese and english has a great content, even thought after being at a2 level you really should move foward from it, their events is deffinetly a plus point, can always find zoom rooms for practicing speaking, this is rally valuable.
whats a good one for english to japanese if you know?
Well... that's probably because the app was originally developed for native Spanish speakers only, cus as you probably know, or not, it was created in Guatemala (My country haha!). So I, for example, mostly use the app for French to Spanish and Japanese to Spanish, and the courses are actually really great!
@@Jaybird_102 I would probably say no...
Loved your video, thank you ❤️❤️❤️ Thanks for putting Duo up there, I know it gets a bad rap, but yes, it’s the funnest one out there. I actually don’t use it anymore though, since I didn’t feel like review was covered or incorporated enough in the tree, but it is so fun! I would put Memrise up with Duo in A if used as a supplement. I think it’s worth its weight in gold that you can hear how native speakers say words and love seeing the background of their country in the background! I love the pro quick review too. For Rosetta Stone, I totally agree with you. I bought a membership, got through level one with all four units done… and I couldn’t pass the end immersion test!!! I mean, I scored 98% at least on every unit, and when it came down to it, I had NO CLUE what to say! I felt proud that I pushed through to see how well I learned… I was pretty let down though, I worked so hard to get through level one! -Anyway, you’re amazing. Thank you for the wonderful work you do and I’m excited to see your app!!!
Hey Ikenna, I'm really excited for your app to come out, but I do have something to say. It's good to be positive and optimistic about something you're introducing and creating, actually, it's fantastic, but you need to be careful not to overhype it. I feel that you might be getting a bit close to doing that. If you do overhype it, I worry that the app may get a lot of undeserved hate.
I kinda agree with you here. I'm also really excited for the new app, but I feel like he tends to advertise it in a way that almost hurts the video sometimes...
Exactly! I committed this same mistake with a personal project of mine and it FOR SURE backlashed at me... you really gotta be reserved about getting emotionally hyped with this kinda stuff, as the human mind, when online, really expects 100 times what you're promising them.
@@dylanloomis Not even hurt the video - I worry that he's bordering on it being snakeoil for everyone's language learning problems. Learning languages is difficult, there's no magic way to make it easy, but he sure as hell is making me think so with how he advertises the app.
@@allebasaiadartse3951 "We are proud to present, but not misrepresent." I am worried he is bordering on misrepresenting it is all.
I agree! I am super excited about the app for sure. But I would call myself an experienced language learned so I believe to be able to judge how much even the most amazing app could do for you. Some people could mistakingly expect something like a magic pill thou and then get disappointed when they find out that they still need to put in the work and every app will have flaws when starting. Plus I am kind of starting to worry about how much it will cost to even be able to use it, as since he promotes it to such an insanely high standard, you'd expect it to cost an arm and a leg.
There's gotta be some legend who somehow became fluent with ONLY Duolingo
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I did
Bonjour
i tried french on duolingo and the only word i remember is bakery, which is boulangerie
With you on Memrise, so sad they phased out the community courses. I was using them to learn up on less common languages. :(
@@LangXplorer Seems I happily stand corrected! After much hunting I found the community courses, bit of a process to get them into the official application but I'm happy I can access these resources now, thank you! Last time I checked I couldn't find it anywhere, they must like to keep it hidden. According to their official statement they were removed to promote the official approved courses. 😊
@@ktxu2181 They are unavailable on mobile but you can still find them on desktop version.
they removed mems though
Always happy to see a new Ikenna video is up! Hope your health is improving
Love your confidence regarding your app, shows that you actually are trying to make a good product that you yourself would use, not a cash grab. :)
Ikenna, I recommend you add subtitles of different languages to your videos so more people can come to your channel and so people can use it as an opportunity to use it to learn languages.
Well, Ikenna’s not a translator so... The second best thing he could do is allow subtitles made by the community.
@@Acro_LangLearn Yeah, that's more doable hahaha
YES! So glad to see Language Transfer on this list. I walked out of that Spanish course genuinely feeling confident in my ability to hold a basic Spanish conversation. If I could go back and do it again, I would've started my journey with Language Transfer from the very beginning. Also, looking forward to your app this year!! It sounds absolutely amazing. Signed up for the mailing list. All the best to you!!
I was sad they didn’t have a course on Portuguese. 😔
@@magusreborn4684 Use the Michel Thomas Portuguese. The MT method is what influenced Language Transfer. They are similar.
Language Transfer is brilliant!
@@magusreborn4684 By the way, Language Transfer is only in the prototype stages for Brazilian Portuguese. That is the next language, that will be released from them.
You did not mention the type of Portuguese, to learn.
I’m glad it worked for you. It didn’t work for me since I found it extremely boring, especially in one sit. I quit the app 4 minutes in the second lesson
This was so helpful! Thank you for this video!!
Thanks for the video, it is one of the best I have seen, the information is very well categorized and it helped me a lot to have a comparison of some apps, I went crazy with so much to take on the internet, this is a very good filter and an honest review! Hope to see your app soon, it sounds amazing!
I think duolingo is very underrated. It won't give you fluency, but it is great for learning basics. I've tried many learning apps before including babbel, busuu and drops, and it is definetely the best one of them
We favor different approaches. The dullness that you didn't like about Babbel is the exact reason I like it. It's like a regular, serious course. I concentrate better in that style. But as for the language I'm currently studying (Indonesian) they only have up to "Beginner 2", then comes the vocabulary. I also started Duolingo's Indonesian while I'm at it, the thing is I found the Indonesian lesson of Duolingo surprisingly good. Nonetheless, I'll be waiting for Ikenna's app to launch. Best of luck.
Same for Busuu, better than babbel in a few features, but we were kept away from being A or S tier becauze 'it's dull' and 'a less popular version of Babbel' while personally it looks really modern and pleasing
@@HDTomo Yeah, While it's perhaps not the most engaging, I like Busuu because it feels like I'm making progress (Although I think it believes I've made much more than I have), Definitely helped by how they encourage you to write or speak your own sentences in the language, Which can then be corrected by native speakers to help with things they might not teach themselves.
Sorry im late, but im also trying to learn Indonesian. What apps would you recommend?
I prefer babble over busuu
Whatre your thoughts on lingodeer? I found it extremely good and motivating (only for Asian languages- all the little design choices that help greatly with Korean fall apart when that same format is slapped onto Italian)
What about the Vietnamese course? Asian language written in Roman alphabet.
Idk I found it great for learning french
Honestly i would be very exited if a game in your app would be like a roguelike, like Slay the spire, where you go through rooms, and in each room you would solve a riddle for example, or other stuff.
Duolingo is just sitting there watching like: but have you takin your Spanish lessons😡😡😡
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I wish Language Transfer had Courses in Russian, why don't they have Russian!!!
@@ItsameAlex exactly my thought ! Language transfer is awesome but it doesnt have russian 😭
I kinda have a gripe with Pimsleur that it’s slow, but I understand why it is because it’s there for people to understand what the speakers are saying. I’m going to be finished Spanish level one this month & I feel it’s redundant a bit.
I am so stoked for your app!! From what you described, it sounds like it’s gonna be super effective. I’ve gone through almost all of these apps too and some have what you need but all are always missing something.
I’m very excited for your app!
One important question Ikenna, will your app be like.. English -> any chosen language learning app?
Will there be learning other languages only through English, or through any other language?
What i'm mostly looking to is Polish -> English/Dutch and occasionally French and German
yeah i have the same question
i'm pretty good at english (i think) but my native is russian and i feel like learning a new language would be much easier if it is my native -> my goal language, not english -> my goal language
It’d be interesting to see if it’ll just be the 12 languages he knows and if there are more how he’s going to verify what’s good or not
@@damnyou296 if you use english for learning a new language you are basically learning 2 at the same time, two birds with one stone💪
@@amandasandstrom9440 He literally said he is pretty good at it, there is no need
Drops is the best to have alongside other apps and I think it’s great to just have as a secondary, supplementary app I guess. Love it
Thanks so much for this video. You are very detailed in explaining the good and bad points about all the apps. And you kept it very interesting through the whole video unlike other videos that are completely boring and I skip through. Excited to get your own language app when it comes out
I have been needing this
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Hey Ikenna. I want to enroll in your course. What does the Online Tutor Master do? It requires a $30 additional fee. Is it some sort of real online tutor or was it recorded?
@@sasukeuchiha8648 its another course that breaks down how to best use tutors on italki to improve your speaking. Not necessary to get it in order the ikenna method though
I trust in your opinion ikenna with my respects for you.
Been following this guys since he had 30k subscribers. Saw the potential and look at him now.
This is literally gonna be the video I used to have people kind of get an idea about what they’re in for with each of these apps. Your rankings dude are completely on point with my experience. I used to really love Memrise, I logged in to the I have a couple of weeks ago to check it out because I was about to recommend it to a friend of mine who is learning Spanish. They used to have a community curated fluency deck. And it’s gone unless you use the website and go through all the old community created decks.
If you’re using the app at all, the only thing that shows up are the company curated decks. It’s pretty sad dude. By the way, I can’t wait for your app dude. Question: are you going to offer Spanish? If yes, can that shit help me break out of upper intermediate? I’ve been stuck for a while dude. Don’t get me wrong, my language ability is pretty solid but it’s not where I need it to be
I'm so glad you're back! Thanks for the video! It's funny because I have half of these apps😤
Joined the mailing list.
App sounds like everything I was trying to do all in one. Fantastic.
Can you teach me some Spanish? Im learning it rn
@@justinherrera3722 Well, think of it's translation as more formal English.
Alot of the words in Spanish, are in English as Latin words. But they're things that we don't use except in formal or technical settings.
Like, mastication. Masticacion. Masticar. To chew.
Usually, any word that ends with "tion" is Latin and can be converted.
There's also some popular verbs that are often mistranslated. Gustar for example confuses people because it's from the perspective of the object. It doesn't mean to like. It means to please. So 'Lo me gusta" means more like "it me it pleases." it doesn't say anything about what you like.
Same with encantar. This doesn't mean that you "love" something. It means to enchant. But it's used in the metaphorical way. You're saying that something "enchants" you. Meaning, it pleases you. But, looking deeper, cantar means to sing. Singing and Chanting are similar, aren't they? So, encantar really means something like "ensing" or "insing" technically speaking. So when you meet someone and they say "encantado" it means "enchanted" in the metaphorical sense.
Focus on things like that I guess. Let the similarities between Spanish and the Latin in English be the place to start, and then find out what it really means. Learning literal meanings can help with understanding concepts.
Ikenna reccomend language transfer all the time. It's definitely worth listening to.
a b+ for duo is not bad, I love duo and honestly probably though I would leave butthurt after watching the video but I'm quite happy with the results. For a FREE app it does a lot
Very cool! Thank you man 🙏
thanks for this vid, i was planning on learning a new language but i wasn't sure which app i should choose so this was v helpful 👍
Beta access…? 👀
I for one am very interested in beta testing for your amazing upcoming app, and am hyped for it’s release as well.
I lost all my motivation to learn languages a while ago, but at least I learned programming and video editing. All of that to say language learning apps as of now seem so bad they motivated me to do other stuff.
Tenía años ansiando ver un video como este, es increíble
im so excited for your app!!
14:08 that’s nice. It also gets rid of initial bias such as racial profiling and other forms of prejudice that could be received from photos (this has actually happened on the hellotalk app, there have been cases of racism on there, which is why I didn’t bother to use the app and now I’m glad I didn’t because everyone is saying that it’s literally just tinder Lmfao 🤣) and as you mentioned it keeps the creeps a w a y (for the most part lol)
What do you think about the audio lessons and short stories in duolingo? Are you considering those features in your ranking or just the main gamifide lessons in the lesson tree?
I'm not sure how fair it'd be to include those features when they are only available for limited languages.
so excited for ur app you have no idea, i’m studying abroad in spain right now and literally had no idea how to study, let alone a language, you’ve helped me so much!!
actually "droplets" the child version of drops is basically the same exact thing except you can set it to have no time limit for free
also pimsleur just wasnt for me, i use rosetta stone and it works for me
I use Anki to study vocabularies, but it's a bit boring to ctrl+c, v and input every single word and sentence into it. I wish they affiliated with dictionaries to make it easier. Like, adding a word on a dictionary instantly inputs that word in Anki too.
Anyway, thanks for the nice video as always! This is very helpful ♡ I didn't know an app like Language transfer exist. I'm definitely gonna try that : D
This does exist though lol
@@matth3657 really? Which one?
@@matth3657 I would like to know which app or if there is a way using anki
I wanted my cards to auto play so that I can listen to it before bed.
An interesting side to fun apps is that once I start to notice what's missing, I feel the need to get creative with other resources to keep up with the gamification and bait of the fun app. And once I started exploring resources, I started talking to others who love to learn languages, so then you have a community, which has a similar energizing effect.
Looking forward to your app!
Hey, so according to what you said at the beginning of the video, the app's fun and motivation it provides plays a big role in your judgement. But is language transfer at all motivating? I find it extremely difficult to get into, compared to other Apps, because you just listen without any visuals or any idea where you're going with it.
Or am I wrong or whatsup
Greetings :)
I think he mostly rated the two apps different coz language transfer is supposed to just be audio files and lessons, whereas the beginning app is SUPPOSED to be motivating and fun but he just didn’t find it motivating. So there’s a little bit of a difference in the purposes of the apps that probably made him rate them differently, but I see where you’re coming from
Personally, I find it very motivating because, like he mentioned, it offers so many useful shortcuts!!
Ex: shared endings on cognates in Eng/Spanish and Eng/french; consonant shifts between Eng/German, etc.
Those feel like little gold nuggets for me, especially when I‘ve only just begun learning. So, he may not consider it to be not motivating!
Pimsleur, on the other hand, I find way too slow. To each their own!
B2 in French now and I would of likely gave up at the beginning if it wasent for ikennas recommendation of Pimsleur I woulda been so lost without it to help build my foundation from virtually 0
Thank you so much for this video my husband is Korean American and I really want my son to speak Korean so I’ve been working since before he was born to learn the language but it’s very hard and I’ve been looking for good apps to help teach me so I really appreciate this video ! Can’t wait to try your app!
감사합니다~😊
i am beyong excited for this app!! was going to try language transfer a long time ago when i saw you talk about it before but they dont have korean or even japanese on there so had to give it a miss , hopefully i can learn korean on your app though!!!!
I'm searching for app to learn languages, and I guess I just found one, thanks to you
That damned green bird... I see it in my dreams....
You missed another lesson yesterday. You know what happens now.
Im excited to use and review your app!!
I'm very excited to see and use you app 👏
Currently learning Japanese, I think duolingo is great for learning hirigana and katakana. Dont really care much about it otherwise but for that it is pretty good.
Agreed. Learning Japanese here too. I've used a bit of Rosetta Stone, Memrise, Duolingo, Michel Thomas, just started Rocket Languages. The one i'm most impressed with and feel that i've learnt the most is with Michel Thomas.
I still think, the most you can get out of these Apps is writing, reading, repeating, and listening.
Good video. I liked, subscribed and added myself to the mailing list.
Ikenna is really funny. You really made my day with this video today.
Anki would be S-Tier when you manage to set it up correctly
Is there a video where they teach to set it up correctly for learning a language, I would appreciate it if you could help
Too painful, I just want my deck to play automatically with text to speech so I can listen to it but after many days of trying to fix it, i still couldn’t find a solution.
Please add Norwegian! I cannot wait for your new app -- and Norwegian is a good stepping stone toward other languages. If there is Norwegian, than goodbye Duo. :)
Thank you for the video
so i’m an australian learning swedish, i don’t need it but i figured for my second language i should chose something realistic that i won’t give up on because it’s impossibly hard lmao. i’ve been learning it since the beginning of may 2022, i started with duolingo which i now have a 147 day streak on, in late june i got a lifetime subscription to babbel and started using mainly that to learn… as of literally like 10 mins ago i brought a year subscription to drops which i’ll be using to further learn swedish & also learn some serbian as that’s the language i wanna learn for myself at some point. so far i’d say babbel has been the most helpful but ur not wrong when you say it can get boring, it’s definitely educational but makes concentrating a little hard. hopefully soon i’ll be able to give more
of an idea of what i find more helpful but i definitely think the apps i’ve mentioned are helpful for begginers
I have a question/request about your app. Is it going to have many languages available?
your app sounds too good to be true! i cant wait for it to come out!
I can't wait for the app I'm so excited!!!
IM HYPED FOR YOUR APP. I LOVE HOW U DERIVED FROM DISCORD. I CANT WAITT
hey, if your native language is portuguese and you are studying English 'Cake' is a pretty good app to study if you are in a little more advanced level
I understand and appreciate the marketing aspect of repping your own app, but I find it a bit distasteful when you designate it S tier and it’s still months away from release. That being said, it sounds great from what you described and I’m looking forward to trying it out if I still haven’t mastered Spanish within the next 6-7 months.
Thanks for the app recommendations. I haven’t heard of some of them and look forward to trying them out. My biggest complaint about Duolingo is it’s great at helping with memorization, but terrible at explaining why sentence structure is the way it is. For example, in English we say, I like orange juice. In Spanish “mi gusts jugo de naranja” which translates literally to, I like juice of orange which is slightly backwards but that’s just how it is.
Pimsleur is amazing. I'm glad that you rated it high...it makes me want to check out the other apps you gave a high rating. I have been using Pimsleur for years to jump-start a new language (recently Russian and Ukrainian), and I've been using DuoLingo to help me learn to read words in the Cyrillic alphabet, so I am glad to see you gave that a good rating as well (although I like how you rated it the app as solo use vs use with another app). Pimsleur and DuoLingo are nice pair.
Memrise is sweet, it still has community created tracks. I used a lot for Binary to Hexadecimal, music theory, Ear Training... there is much more as it is a memory platform. The only problem is that you may be correct, less people create and those that did create aren't available to fix some small errors (I have tried messaging some creators).
Rosetta Stone has never changed, looks outdated and I agree, stock footage for something that costs money is a slap in the face.
I appreciate this discussion on the apps. I'm trying to learn Mandarin and held strong on Duolingo for like 2 months but ultimately am really disappointed (hello it doesn't explain tones??) and fell out of practice for the last month. Excited to find a better fit for me and get back into it.
Use HELLOCHINESE, this app is fantastic !!
@@iamfenicia oh alright! I will check it out, thank you so much!
@@iamfenicia Hi🙋🏻♂️. What apps in Chinese exist to learn languages? For example i wanna learn Russian in Chinese language.
i used drops app there are 5 minutes in every 10 hours i was doing it in the morning and evening and if you do serial it gives a few extra minutes for a few days in a row hehehe
I’ve been using Babbel and Drops. I guess I was properly externally motivated because I never struggled to get through Babbel. Then again, I’m trying to get ready for immigration with a timeline of ASAP; I’ve got to get my family out of this country for their safety, so I’m probably not a typical language learner in that. Drops has been an excellent augment, not something I’d use as my primary. Now that I’m through the basics, I’m going to start in on something like Tandem or Hello Talk soon.
Super helpful 👌
Literally i thought he hated duolingo and would put it in the last row, and now that I’m that using it, waiting for him to put it in the last row, was so surprised when he gave it a fricking b +.
What are the suggestions for someone who prefers less gamification? And by that I mean not drilling grammar, but just a more serious approach than doodles of dancing fat boys, or candy rush style swiping and tapping. This Speakly app is great, in that it doesn't bore you with grammar but still doesn't treat you like a child, but their minimalism is too much, I wish they added a "tap to save for later" feature like in LingQ and more extensive grammar reference. I hope that wouldn't be too much against their philosophy.
Michel Thomas/Paul Noble then move to Glossika
Also, Assimil's 'Sans Peine', series
Language transfer and Babble. Both are serious approaches to the languages and they are pretty cut and dry interface wise.
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i’m so excited for your app
my favorite language app is actually lingodeer... especially because of the audio and well explained grammar!