The Future Is Unwritten: With Heather Cox Richardson
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ต.ค. 2023
- Michael speaks with historian Heather Cox Richardson about her new book, "Democracy Awakening: Notes on the State of America." The pair discuss Lincoln Republicanism, how the culture wars of the '90s set the tone for today and the role Biden's presidency has played in awakening democracy.
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Thank You So Much, Michael, for having our Beloved Heather on your show. She’s a NATIONAL TREASURE!
Seems like worrying about Patriarchy is a luxury when I have to worry about the Democracy of our country could disappear 😢
Should the democracy survive I firmly believe Dr Richardson will be one of the unsung hero’s who made it happen.
Appreciate you both! Much needed discussion! Please keep engaging!
Michael!!! Wow! What a great discussion! Thank you soooo uchfor showcasing Heather's great work, and showing the way forward! ❤
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Go Heather! I can’t express how brilliant I think this woman is…let’s awaken🙏
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As a Progressive, I still can’t believe how much I respect and admire Michael Steele, a RATIONAL man with whom we may disagree on issues, but not on character. Great discussions elicit serious thought, and this was a great discussion. Thank you. ❤
Remember when democrats married republicans?
We were married to democracy.
I disagree profoundly with his politics but I enjoy his broadcasts and enjoy listening to him.
Heather is an American treasure ❤️🇺🇸
Reagan wasn't a nice guy, he was an actor who played a nice guy; a "useful idiot."
Thank you, Michael, for having Heather on your show and thanks to both of you for an amazing, interesting thoughtful, and inspiring conversation on how to save our democracy and country. 👏👏🇺🇸❤️🤗
Thank you Heather Cox Richardson. You certainly made learning fun and interesting
I am So pleased to hear this conversation of HISTORY and present time. It is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. I know so many have NOT LEARNED HOW IT IS IMPERITIVE TO PROTECT PEOPLES DEMOCRACY
Michael, I’m listening to this interview but something you just said made me stop to offer a comment. I’m an old black woman who has been saying for years that this is the time when citizens are going to have to decide what kind of country they want to live in. It’s OUR responsibility.
The problem, as I see it, is the Maga’s are in a Cult, and that never works out well.
We need to Stay Strong, black or white, or green, or yellow.💙
Too many girls and women have been slaves to men since the beginning of time! It’s not all about the color of skin but the hearts of men toward those that they are able to control if they choose to…and too many feel entitled to do so. Many times it goes unnoticed is the big problem and that’s a huge and unfair problem for females. This really needs to be addressed as well.
Then we need to abolish gerrymandering and the electoral vote. That makes it not a level playing field
I agree 100%
Thank you, Michael, for bringing Heather to us. She’s a blessing in the best non religious sense of that word.
What a great conversation. Thank you Michael and Heather.
You two are rocking it! Thank you. Note to Michael, if you leave it to the people of the state to get fed up, how are individuals to change things when their right to be represented by vote has been jeopardized or suppressed by gerrymandering?
A point he time and again stubbornly evaded, perhaps disingenuously, as he speechified. A frustrating listen.
Gerrymandering has now enslaved black and white alike. Our votes have been STOLEN every time new
Gerrymandered maps are drawn every 2 years. If this continues "The South Will Rise Again." VOTE 💙 💙 💙 BLUE 💙💙 IN 2024 to give everyone their vote. WE NEED the POPULAR VOTE TO PROTECT US. They just keep moving the lines and stealing our votes.
Thank you Michael for hosting a great conversation. I have followed her for quite awhile. I learned a lot from your episode discussing so much.
Thank you Michael and Heather for a great conversation!
Thank you Michael. Heather has been offering us a much needed overview of our daily political events by providing us with a historical context that so few are truly as well aware of as she.
I have never found her to be irrational in her presentations, rather, she brings light and balance to the conversation.
Morality changes with time, and religious morality should not be the rule of law because we are constantly expanding as humans. Religious morality restricts our freedom to grow and improve as humans, and as Americans. And what religion is correct? Each sect thinks it is the only correct belief. Excellent discussion!
Agreed our leaders are the worst hypocrites. No one should shovel religion and morality down throat.
Good point!
Your religion must make sense. Being raised Catholic didn’t do that for me.
It can take awhile.
Excellent comment!
Did you know there are over 5000 religions (that we know of)? And to think that only one has the authority? Its ludicrous
I agree with Churchill's assessment that "Americans can be relied upon to do the right thing...after they have exhausted all other possible alternatives." The wheels turn slowly and we, as a culture are ill prepared for this reality. But Democracy will prevail. It has to.
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Its astounding how many times that description of how the U.S. operates rings true.
I an a huge fan of Heather's work! It's great to see her showing up on podcasts now 👏 🎉
people needs money ! 🤑🌎💙🙏🤔✌️
Once again I learned something new just by listening to the brilliant Heather Cox Richardson speak. Much appreciated!
This woman has a mind like a bloody Bear Trap.
I have Never known anyone
that remembers, and can articulate so well.
Yup, I’m a fan.
Best in-depth conversation i’ve heard in years. Right to the honest heart of things. Thank you Michael. Thank you Heather. I dare have more hope that we just have to keep doing the Good Work and making Good Trouble.
Michael, thanks for having Heather Cox Richardson speak with your followers. I have been following you, Mr. Steele, for a number of years. I have been trying to understand your choice to be a Republican. As your geo/ethnic-contemporary (born in D.C, African heritage, highly educated), I am still baffled with your allegiance to the GOP (pre-MAGA). It seems to me that the idealization of Abraham Lincoln and his position on Democracy has yet to be materialized in real life via the GOP. Not that the Democratic Party is flawless, but as I recall, for all of my voting life, the policies that I would have alighned myself with came from the Dems, not the GOP. It seems like "Lincoln Republicans" are quixotic in their efforts to make a party ideology something that has long left the station. I know that this comment will probably fall on deaf ears, so indulge me the moment of response.
Agree! This has been a bafflement to me, too. I can only hope that Heather helped to inspire some introspection on the decision to be a member of a party that "never was" and see the light. :)
I was disappointed in this interview. Michael spent the first two-thirds trying to show her how much he loved Lincoln, as well as still (seriously?) schilling for states' rights. I thought Heather was very respectful while biting her tongue.
I forwarded this to my parents; Heather Cox Richardson and Michael Steele are two of their very favorite people.
Heather is always great to listen to and learn from. I wish you would have let her her talk more than you did!
Michael, such an intelligent an engaging interview with Heather Cox Richardson! I think it’s my favorite interview of yours and hers!
Thank you, Michael, for this fabulous interview with Heather. And thank you, Heather, for repeatedly pointing out that this Christian nationalism scourge is rooted in patriarchy!!
What a great conversation! Thank you Mr. Steele! 💖
Wonderful title! The truth IS yet to be written! Let’s work together to make it bright.
Michael Steele? He always has the right thing to say about what the "real deal" actually is. Thank you!
The futures uncertain and the end is always near. Let it roll baby roll. -Mr Mojo Risin'
Yes, Michael, this is a crux. Thank you.
For the fun; I was raised on Lincoln Circle, in Belmont, mass. from 1955. My father and grandfather ran a famous law firm, and hid the details from me. I was casually friends with Joseph Welch, who would drive my father home,from work, cause he distrusted the bus and subway, from Boston.
My father, had no time, to dally, and had his 3 rd heart attack ,at age 56. Mere perseverance, will not suffice, where dark money is seen on the surface. We grew up challenging the John Burch Society, simply, because of the narrative. My sister, took to B.U. Law school. As the last child, my father did cultivate my musician-ship, poetic art, and skills as a anti-class warrior, both physical and spiritual. He was as well the quietest anti-racist -, lover of jazz music, I have ever found.
I love Professor Heather Cox Richardson..! She's so well read and she explains history in a way that just makes me want to hear more and more!
I enjoyed this discussion, but it was a bit frustrating listening to Michael ask her a question, then attempt to answer the question himself, going on and on, before finally letting her answer.
Anyhow, it was still a great show!
I believed e it is a way Michael is articulating his question.
I appreciate the highly intelligent content of this show!!
Michael, this was an exceptional interview. I’ve watched many of Richardson’s interviews and your questions really got to the heart of the matter. I’ve watched you before but this interview earned a subscription.
Hi Michael, I live in Canada, however I follow your politics on a daily basis as I feel what happens in your country affects us more than any other country except maybe Mexico. You are one of The sane and you make sense in a senseless time. I was reading some quotes yesterday and found the following,
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin
Keep up the fight for Democracy !
Such a great show! Powerful!
Thank you so much. I follow Heather. She keeps me off the ledge. Always so interesting. This talk brought up so many important topics
Fantastic segment. Thank you so much. Can't get enough of Heather. She is amazing. We need her. First thing I read every day is her newsletter.
I love the analysis. Now, what’s the plan? What’s the action we can take to right the ship? What can “I” do to get the media to cover important issues. What can I do, as a Democrat, to get the TN legislature (I’m in middle TN) to follow Conservative, rather than MAGA, ideology?
I’d like to know this also.
Protect your public schools and libraries. Make sure American History is being taught and check which text books are being used as Texas is a major source of biased information. And make sure American Civics or Government is being taught. That members of Congress don’t know what the 3 branches of Government are is outrageous.
South Carolina never taught any history past the revolutionary war when I was in the public schools from 1964 -1978. I guess there weren’t any books written about the Confederate war that the South Carolina Government wanted us to know about. They didn’t lie, but they didn’t tell what happened either.
VOTE, VOTE, VOTE...and bring family & friends with you to vote. Help get people registered to vote.
Dr. Cox-Richardson, I greatly appreciate your distillation of history's often lost meanings. You make present day a better place!
Profr H Cox Richardson, I follow you on YT from Paris regularly, but I canceled FB and X, one social media is enough at eighty. As a specialist of international law and history I find your work useful and inspiring. Thank You.
❤❤❤❤I love HCR!!!
I love that HCR is smiling with joy! Looking forward to watching this interview.
I am a big fan of both of you. Thank you for the conversation.
Thank you so much for this podcast - and for this stimulating convesration between two very savvy, very smart people! Wishing you both the very best. Thank you so much for this crucial forum! Saving our sanity, providing and nurturing hope!
I can read and listen to her every day - great interview. Almost finished her new book.
Thanks, Michael and Heather. As usual, you encourage me to change our future. Excellent teaching. And really amazing!
Michael, remember when we met waiting for the ferry on Mackinaw Island in Sept. 2021 and I told you about this wonderful Professor I read everyday? You had not heard of her. So happy you now read and talk to her. You both are important to our wild times.
Excellent episode! Thank you.
Michael & Heather thank you both for your service to our heads & our hearts ❤🙏🏻🙏🏾❣️🙏🏾🇺🇸🇺🇦🍼 & All babies💜
Two stunning minds ... thankyou for everything you are doing every day with such persuasive passion.
This is essential viewing for every citizen, especially those of us wanting to understand how we got into our current predicament. Many thanks to you both! 🙏🙏
She is an american treasure. I just love her youtube channel, she makes history and politics so interesting
I loved this talk so much! I enjoy Michael and Heather's views that strengthen everyone's rights in America, not just a few people. Let's all go and vote OUT the radicals who aim to destroy democracy.
This was an excellent episode!
We the people have got this! I just bought Heather's book!
Heather Cox Richardson took my mantra: "the word CONSERVATIVE is used & abused." BRAVO to us BOTH (I may pat myself on the back, too 😉).
Another outstanding interview! Dr. Richardson is at her very best with the insightful and excellent questions asked by Michael Steele.
Great Show! Lots of history & Information!!
Thank you!’ ✨♥️✨♥️💯✨
A hearty thanks to both of you! Mz. Richardson's knowledge is so expansive and enlightening and Mr. Steele put out there some hard truths that are good for us to hear.
Yes, what more can Biden do? The man is already fighting to save the institution of democracy morning, noon and night.
And in the spirit of levity, I much appreciated, "How many of us are dreading going to Grandma's house for Thanksgiving because she's bat-shit crazy over "T___P".
Thank you both for such a great presentation that gives true Americans hope for the future. Greatful for your input and inspiration.
❤❤❤🎉 wonderful discussion! Very informative and entertaining! Thank you both! 😊❤
This is the first time I have heard someone get to the point. Public interest vs. self interest. Equality vs. superiority. Right now there are more who believe they are superior to somebody, compared to the number who believe everyone is important. After years of dictatorship the superior people will come to wish they had the same rights they took away from others.
Love Heather!I read her daily notes everyday.
Yeah Michael. If the Federal Government hadn't stepped in to the states the Civil Rights period would have failed.
What a fantastic guest. Great discussion.
'Give us ears to hear & eyes to see. We have a speaker of the House who believes we are a republic not a democracy. He describes democracy as two wolves & a sheep. 😮 Thank you Heather & Michael. Truth is refreshing. The book is much appreciated.
We are both a Republican and a democracy...we are both because they are basically the same thing.
@@sandrapisarski6597You are correct; actually, a democratic( small d) Republic, meaning leadership must be voted for by all citizens equally.
Do love this discussion!!
Outstanding. Thank you both!
Yes!!!!!!! I've been saying for months we need to organize like they did in the 60s for civil rights!!!! I've been waiting for someone to say it's so.
Oh, Lord, we have so much road work and bridges being repair and replaced it’s not even funny! It’s is really nice to see it happening and knowing I won’t have to worry about a bridge collapsing right when I’m driving across it.
Heather is brilliant and effective in educating people who are already there but don’t know where their place nutritive sense of justice is grounded.
Michaei we woud like you to have Heather Cox Rixardson n more !! She is awesome!!!!!!
Heather Cox Richardson for President! 😊❤
Love you so much - and you do so much for us - Ms Heather Cox Richardson ❤️
Thank you! I am a progessive Democrat and found this discussion to be intelligent, hopeful, and useful. And i am a long time fan of Heather's.
Fantastic conversation. I appreciate the fact that you had a meaningful conversation rather than just an interview, especially with the input of a traditional - sane - Republican. Many thanks.
I just subscribed to your podcast. I've heard you before, but now I'm convinced I want to hear more from you. Thanks for giving us yet another glimpse of Heather.
Great conversation. Heather Cox Richardson is the best.
I love how she makes it ALL make sense!
Thank you so much for having this conversation! It's interesting for me to see Heather Cox Richardson's work from a variety of perspectives -- what you emphasize is a bit different, but you're helping with framing we could use to work together in order to save our democracy.
Wow great conversation Michael! Thank you both so much! Heather you are so brilliant!
Yes, Mr. Steele, make media about Americans who are benefiting from Biden’s presidency. Please. Soon. Please.
When the Berlin Wall fell (literally the next day), I turned to my mother-in-law (who would be in her 90s if she were still alive) and asked, “Now that the right doesn’t have communists to fear monger with, how will they fund raise and scare up votes?” She didn’t miss a beat, “gay people.”
Wow, Prescient
Great discussion by two of my favorite people…….
What a fantastic discussion!
Thank you for this enlightening, intelligent, informed exchange of ideas!
From Australia, my best regards.
Just watched your programme with Rachael M. Fascinating. As an avid uk follower of the current political scene of America , I really appreciate your reporting. Thank you and keep doing what you do for the importance of democracy
Lincoln was and is a political and historical touchstone! Truly a giant, not just literally, but figuratively; and for all time.
Heather is the best, I read her everyday.
Infuriating that there was no accountability for the crimes of the Confederate South''s Civil War.😠
Great show Heather Cox Richardson is a wonderful educator. ❤😊
Absolutely great conversation!!
Wonderful advocates for the people. Good will prevail! We will all become equal. We can all prosper together. Otherwise, history will continue to repeat itself.
I always learn more than I ever thought I would.
Lincoln's genius is something, through a ton more pain & death, have mostly learned from - via the well known saying "first they came for the communists, but i was not a communist so...." -- let us hope we can make good use of that in this movement today. Genius Ms. Richardson, bless your heart! 🧠❤️♥️
The book is awesome. Love Heather.
Love this!! I can tell you were so into this Michael. I have been following Heather for years, right about when she started her letters. I have been so enjoying all of her book stops. I learn new things every time.
Thank you Heather for the lens you provide to those like me!
Yes, love HCR!!! Love to you too, Michael! ❤
My second dose of Heather today very grateful. Michael also.
I’m going to give Heather’s book to every adult, especially family members, on my Christmas list. Thank you Heather and Michael!
Prof Richardson’s insights, and the depth of her knowledge is stunning. Thank you Michael. Great conversation.
Sorry, but Reagan was a big problem, his policies tore the economic center out of the middle class. Part of how we got here. He was also hugged up w evangelical racists.