NASCAR Fan Reacts to the Insane Logistics of Formula 1
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It would be amazing if you decided to do a race highlights reaction from the F1 channel from time to time. You'd really love it
Unfortunately it'd be copyrighted straight away. All F1 footage belongs to F1/FOM, the teams can't even post their own race footage. Technically any spectator recording also belongs to F1/FOM, but it's harder to police.
@@ryan_r849 He can blur the video or makes it less visible. It won't be blocked.
The problem is they lost most of their fans. A lot less people actually care. When they went to lawn mower engines they lost a lot of fans.
@@fugawiaus nonsense. The peabrains that still whinge for the V12 never were the real fans. F1 is the pinnacle of engineering gone wild, it needs to use relevant technologies. The complexity of the cars and teams makes it interesting.
@@Argosh you’ve never heard a screaming v12 at full song have you? A pissy little v6 1.6 l with massive turbos and electric motor back up just isn’t F1. Hearing a bunch of lawn mowers just doesn’t cut it.
All the tech could still be done to a v12. Except they would be faster and more powerful.
F1 is a fantastic sport to watch but over the years I've found that I have learned the most from watching the practice sessions, The commentary in the practice sessions teach you soo much about the sport that you just don't learn otherwise and most people don't watch them.
that is very accurate, since free practice is not always very tense as it's mostly about tyre and fuel management, commentators often spend the majority of those sessions to speak about specific area of the sport that doesn't seems obvious at 1st sight
@@chcoupedu62 Yep! There is soo much one can learn from free practice sessions before a race, After all the teams learn soo much and so can the audience.
BIG FACTS
i would say most pre drive to survive f1 fans do watch the practice sessions as it gives you a rough idea how weekend will pan out, plus especially this season gives you a chance to see if upgrades applied have worked.
on a side note i hope ferrari can sort out there realiability issues and redbull have a few dnf's in next couple of races so we can have some sort of tittle fight after summer break. Toto if you reading this get george to run max and checo of track in Budapest haha only joking.
@@scottmeehan2422 Yes Ferrari need to get out of there own way and Mercedes need to keep doing what there doing, People wrote them off but they have been super consistent and have great race pace.
slight note, this video was from 2015-ish and since then, a few tracks have been replaced and the order of others has been somewhat re-though out as part of F1's attempt to limit their envrionmental impact of having hundreds of shipping containers always moving at the same time. So the logistics, whilst still extremely complex, are not quite as obscenely over the top now.
2018*
actually it happened in 2020
Also Force India is (technically) no more.
FIA are for more to blame for they’re economic efforts when we all see they’re mapped race calendar?!? Seniors of business these days don’t deserve they’re £ not just banks CEO’s or British government’s etc - A PURE JOKE AND EMBARRASSMENT!!!!!!!!
All jobs should be performance based. End of
Just to give you an idea.
Yesterday it was France GP in the south of France at Le Castelet, next Sunday it is the Hungary GP.
The teams must be At the Hungaroring Tuesday.
1447 km.
They Have the Sunday afternoon after the race to load trucks, Monday, today, to do 1447 kilometers, to be in Hungary Tuesday.
Look at the Calendar of July. England the 3rd, Austria the 10th, France le 24th and Hungary the 30th. Now take a Map of europe.
In 2008, I think, I worked at MAN in Eugendorf, when Red Bull ordered 20 trucks for their teams. 10 in Red Bull Racing colors and 10 in Torro Rosso colors.
Two thing I learned back then,
1st thing is, Red Bull colors are patented. On two RBR trucks the side wings weren´t painted inside and we asked for the color code. RB said that the color is patented and asked how much color we need so they can bring it to us.
2nd when the drivers came to pick them up I talked to one of them. One driver said it just like that. You arrive on the track, first you park in for hour or two. The distance between trucks and trailers is measured with an laser and the tolerance in the distance is about 1cm. Then you get out and start polishing the truck and the trailer starting from the top and all that at 30°C plus.
As an aussie it makes me appreciate more what Sir Jack Brabham accomplished. He could design, build, race, and win world championships with his cars, while still having to deal with all those logistics in getting his cars to all the circuits around the world (with help of course, but still...)
I think the absence of planes is the main reason why they didn't have that many races per season back in the 60's. aviation allowed F1 to flourish up to 20+ races a season
Semi-Trailer but we pronounce the prefix to match hemi as in hemisphere. Where sem-eye came from, I can only guess!
In the UK we call it an Artic, sometimes tractor or unit for the truck and the trailer is referred to by its type. Straight, step, double etc
Let's be real. F1 is a Sport for nerds.
Logistics, R&D and strategy are way more important than any one driver.
One thing I always admire in F1 are the pit crews. I know they got all the top level tools and systems but for that stop - tire change - go to take ~3 seconds as a team requires a insane amount of drilling.
Mind you that 3 seconds pit stop is considered a slow one.
@@aabidamn true
Don't forget you also have the team back at the factory who don't travel to the races but still organise the gear to go out including new parts or upgrades through the season.
The unsung heroes of F1 is the mechanics and their families who have to live with it. This season is 22 races long, original 23! And the mechanics are the first on site, they literally builds an city on each race in Europe, it's a little bit easier on the fly away races as they uses hotells instead of the large container structures they use in Europe. And they are the last to leave after tearing everything down. And after mechanics comes chef's, waitresses, marketing people, medical staff, trainers, drivers and general staff. I would like to call the logistic planning of F1 an highly precisely military operation, but that would been an insult to F1, they have to it better. :P
Lorry is a truck in general
A 'Semi' we would call an Artic, an articulated Lorry/vehicle
Not quite right as they call a pickup ie an open back van a truck in the states...it's so confusing hahahaha.
As a life long F1 fan, who has NOT seen a postive reaction from NASCAR fans in general over the years, I just want to say how much I appreciate the effort you are putting in to understanding every aspect of the sport. The more you learn, the more captivating it is. Keep up the great vids, love em!
10 days till I leave for Monza!!! Forza Ferrari! (although, I suspect Red Bull will do very well at this circuit)
Nice reaction. Now you can imagin what pressure lies on every of the 20 F1 pilots on racedays to make 1000s of hard working people in the background happy.
All around the world except Africa. There used to be a GP in South Africa, at the Kyalami circuit, last time held there in 1993.
Right on Ian, like I say to all my family that just think racing is just vroom vroom, did you see that car, it went vroom, NO, so much goes into it, the strategy, logistics, the drivers, SO much goes into it.
As F1 managers like to say, you can't have the Vroom without the room.
imagine doing all of this as a williams staff member and u just watch goatifi slide through the gravel every single race
F1 is like racing on multiple layers, not only track, but also development and even logistics
In the late '80s-early '90s IndyCar had entered the entered the same ballpark as F1 and posed at least a little bit of a threat. Most notably in 1993 when reigning World Driver's Champion Nigel Mansell switched from F1 to IndyCar and the IndyCar grid had 3 former F1 World Champions in Mansell, Mario Andretti and Emerson Fittipaldi, as well as IndyCar legends like Al Unser Jr., Bobby Rahal and a young Paul Tracy. Now due to a number of things, but most notably the CART/IRL split, IndyCar isn't anywhere close in terms of money and prestige. It does seem to be gaining momentum, however and has been producing some very entertaining racing.
imagine sending 2000 people and a 3 story building 4000 miles away just to have your two drivers crash into each other
And don't forget, not only do you have all the people mentioned in the video, hundreds per team to go to the race and make it happen. But there are dozens or hundreds back at their Race Head Quarters scanning over Terabytes of data per second that is transmitted to them to examine the car and it's condition in real time, while being thousands of miles away. It's similar to watching a crew in front of a bunch of monitors looking at data, with headsets on during a NASA Rocket Launch. I can't believe in all the years I have been watching, I have yet to see a single hiccup that prevented a team from participating in a race. It may have happened and I missed it, but I haven't see it in my time. A truly incredible feat of logistics.
The work behind the scenes is just incredible and you'd never know it if you just watch the race every (other) week, because it all just happens. Phenomenal effort by all teams to pull this off and get it done. The crew deserve way more credit than anyone will ever give them.
You mentioned DHL around 10:00, and amusingly I think they're still the official logistics partner making the show happen. It can go wrong though, as you'd see if you looked at MotoGP this year - one of the three planes shipping stuff from Qatar to Argentina broke down, and some of the major players in all three classes were still building well into Thursday night (with first practice for Moto3 early friday morning)
Grosjean is also sponsored by DHL in the #28 Andretti Autosport in Indycar.
there is a quote: ""If we ever do colonize Mars, Formula 1 engineers would be the first people I’d want there." after this video I would add the logistics stuff too to this quote.
I'm a big NASCAR fan, I watch Indycar, IMSA, and F1 the last couple years. I never knew F1 was this complicated to travel from race to race. WOW.
The Red Bull track does look awesome and I had the pleasure of seeing one live here in Finland some years ago. I talked with the driver (who had started his journey from the UK days earlier) and his truck was carrying Sebastian Vettel's '07 Toro Rosso to St. Petersburg Russia as Red Bull had a show there. The truck really stood out since you don't typically see those kinds here. The driver was nice enough to give me and my son brand new Red Bull caps too :)
Don't forget, between races there will be upgrades made to the cars. Specifically to the aerodynamics packages and these will be flown out and trialled during practice.
The problem with Baky, Azarbeijan, is that you can not reach it by boat from open waters. They still need to drive quite some from the nearest port. This is probably Batumi in Georgia (if it has container loading facilities)
Hey Ian, I'd call it impressive logistics, rather than insane. I've worked in local aussie motorsport for decades, and I can tell you the logistics is quite interesting. Once you're used to the processes, it's just routine, not stressful.
We'd start pack-up sometimes on the Saturday night if we knew we couldn't use it on Sunday. By the time we got to the end of the last race on Sunday, it was pretty much just toolboxs and cars to roll into the transporter. We're generally packed and on the road within 1hr of finishing.
F1 is a different level, but seeing the way the mechanics go to work at Melbourne is very impressive. Supercar logistics is pretty similar. If you like F1 transporters, check out the Supercar B-double transporters, they're more impressive.
The motorhomes and transporters don't go to the fly away races, so the paddock is not as glamorous/impressive, but still very cool to see.
One minor correction for fly-aways perhaps, the sea freight is anything not mission critical, so hospitality stuff mainly, but also I think garage walls and other non-essential items. Engines, spares, tools, pit stop equipment, IT infrastructure all goes by air.
RBR published an article about pack-up www.redbullracing.com/int-en/bulls-guide-to-pack-up
and they also put out a few videos about preparing for an event, very intriguing and impressive.
Ian, you mention the number of people involved, F1 used to be ridiculous, but in recent years, a personnel cap was introduced. If memory serves, it's about 80 crew/operational + marketing and hospitality, prior to that, teams would fly out 200 people
Watching Qualifying is my favorite part of the F1 weekend and then lights out!!...the standing start!
you also got to remember all the workers in the factory at the teams bases. so i will say each team has at least 300 plus employees
What got me into F1 was the logistics and planning part of it.
Please don't forget the R &D back home in UK. They are working on next seasons car as they race. I think there are videos on these amazing engineers and scientists trying to get another 0.01 second out of the car and abide by the strict rules.
Tip of the iceburg really this.... It's not just the teams moving! F1 itself has a huge convoy. Also independent events teams, security teams, production/film crews, world media and tyre companies..etc, all moving to each race.
In the late 90ies i talked to a truckdriver from Ferrari. He told me that he was probably the most controlled truckdriver in the world. Every border crossing with border control he is "searched"by border control.
Finally an American like myself that appreciates what goes into F1 and doesn't just turn their nose up to it, because it's not American Central. Great work!
What sold me on F1 was the 2013 Ron Howard film Rush, about the 1976 championship battle between Nikki Lauda and James Hunt. While in so many ways that F1 is a couple of universes away from today's F1, the essence is still the same. Wonderful film.
There is a nice Documentation from RedBull Racing. It's called "Das Rennen zwischen den Rennen" - the race between the races. It shows, how the mechanics in the background do their work, to build the motorhomes and the Garage and the logistics for all that
Little correction, it's about all Teams
m.th-cam.com/video/a-LiPP-wGJg/w-d-xo.html
I can litereally order stuff from Germany on monday morning into central Finland.. and on tuesday mid day I mostly have my package.. its faster than Finlands own post office service.. by a long mile! its crazy wild!
Just think of all the office people paying all the plane tickets, making all the boat plans, making food orders for the kitchen etc....
Thank you IWrocker for your interest in motorsport, for your videos about different races and classes around the world. Dare to say that you are the only one in the USA who is starting to have so much knowledge about motorsport in Europe that you can start teaching others about the subject in your country :D
Keep on Tr(u)acking.
Peter from Finland
Soon we will have Antarctica GP on the calendar
There is a video on YT somewhere that shows the complexity of how they set up the track at Monaco, even the team garages being built are impressive in themselves.
They could save several million on logistics by just buying a purse. You are just as surprised every time when the wife changes her purse on how much it can fit. Keys, tools, makeup, 500 different calendars, a large toy store, a complete safari with all the live animals, etc.
Next would be a video about the film production of the circus. (It's crazy)
All these drivers have their special diets and medical team.. the list goes on
today i came home from my mom and passed the car transport trucks of the mercedes F1's... on their way to spa was amazing.
Think about this old saying: ""A CHAIN IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS WEAKEST LINK"", one person is sick or hung over or doesn't secure/strap something correctly and BOOM, WTF, OVER when unpacking time comes. THEE HUMAN RESOURCES RESPONSIBLE for those ""MOVES"" is even more fascinating!!! The amount of oversight & the trust involved, people come and go, but the person doing a particular job/duty has to do it PERFECT EVERY TIME, just like the drivers, one little bit off & BAM, INTO THE WALL YOU GO!
For the best F1 watching situation & blood pressure elevating, watching the entire QUALIFING secession is just a lil bit behind watching the lights go out at 3/4+ volume, but you get the same rush three times over at the last 3-5 minutes of each qualifying secession. GREAT STUFF!!!
Trivia from the pre Formula 1 Grand Prix era...Once upon a time in the USA race cars were mostly "roadsters" until people like Jim Clark and Mario Andretti introduced rear engine vehicles in a very winning way. Clark won the Indy 500 in 1965 and from that year on all indy racers were rear engined vehicles
Because you are discovering F1 and you like engine sounds, you should watch: Renault F1 engine playing God save the Queen and Formula 1 Sound Comparison - V8 V10 V12 V6 Turbo
I found your channel and loving the f1 vids. I know you’le really like it when you understand everything
With so many teams based in the UK, I used to see trucks going through Dover a fair bit, and they do look smart.
I'm a long distance lorry driver g, I've been to Silverstone so I know what a pain it can be to get to
That redbull semi is so sweet
I was a touring audio engineer for many years... we would do a show... and the entire rig would be packed up into the semis within about 3-4 hours. Big shows would have identical rigs that would leap frog each other.
F1 is one of those rare sports where you can't watch things from even a year ago because they're dated unless they're documentaries, You have to watch things from now and be in the now to understand the current crop and lay of the land.
If you do want to watch some funny and interesting documentaries on f1 or even the junior formulas f2,3 ext I recommend you watch the TH-cam channel Josh Revell he has many fantastic videos.
My mind were blown when i learned that the team buildings can be built and torn down with in a few days
A friend of mine started a F1 tipping comp years ago. Certainly learnt a lot of who the drivers are etc with doing that. Didn’t know any of them prior to that, just loved the race.
The "green mountain scenery" wont be making an appearance during the race, but the most unique race track is obviously Monaco, because it is part of the city itself.
I'm sure you've heard how F1 pit crews practice pit stops over and over to perfect them? Their assembly/disassembly teams probably use the same philosophies and techniques over the off-weekends and breaks! Anyone into furniture flat-pack assembly speed-running should probably consider this profession for a career move 😄
on the covid period only 80 persons are able on the circuit for each team ( uncluded drivers ) on regular period.it's around 200 persons for the big teams.
Each team is limited to 50 people for logistics on site. Most also bring their own hospitality staff. They contract locally for carpenters, electricians and such as well as freight handling. And customs can be a nightmare outside of the EU.
How mind blowing this is? Imagine you live in a nice house, with a huge kitchen, a nice living room, a lovely bedroom and a high class bathroom and a full garage with technic and stuff ... and you have to move from state to state each weekend. Install your kitchen and your bathroom, pack out your stuff, paint and decorate the rooms for a few days and then ... de-install everything and move to the next state ... doesn't sound like fun to me! ;)
They've added more races since this video. 23 races a year now with more planned.
Its full on 👍🤠
I used to love F1, qualifying every Saturday night, then the race on Sunday night, going to work Monday still tired. That was until Foxtel got involved, now every race except the Aussie Grand Prix is exclusive to that cable network. So for me it's RIP F1.
They've also killed my enjoyment of the V8's.
F1 is the only truly global motorsport series. Every other series is in North America, Europe, Asia and such and don't leave that area. This is a big part of why they have such massive budgets.
Btw there is no Indian team anymore they became racing point and are now Aston Martin. Which is owned by a Canadian
As someone working in Logistics its not that insane or crazy but rather very good organized and trained crew. If you setup something like this it probably will be stressful but with getting a routine and a good organized system, it will be relative speaking not that difficult to maintain that system. Logistic usually gets difficult with bad planning or workers not able to operate at a needed level of competence and speed. Sure things can always ruin your plans but beside that preparation is everything.
This vid is from 2018, couple of team name changes and a few more races on the calendar this year. DHL is the F1 logistics company for all fly away races.
Also Ian, would suggest NOT doing any reaction videos of F1 using images directly from the F1 you tube site, they will blocked, F1 owners are very protective of all their images
In Formula 1 everything is ridiculously expensive.
Not with the cost caps
@@MrKnowledge0014 It''s still ridiculously expensive, the teams just can't spend as much. The parts etc haven't got cheaper, so development budgets are sacrificed. And a big crash can really hamper a team.
Hi Ian,very very interesting review of the logistics of formula one. There was sooo much in that that I was unaware of. Well done.
thank you so much for this. I love f1. always wondered how it was done.
I wish I could go out with you for a beer and watch a race bro , cheers from Brazil
Second part of F1 seasons starts in 4 weeks. You’re welcome to join us Ian.
Most F1 teams get a logistics partner to help with this stuff
Jordan used to have DHL for example
I grew up knowing trucks as Articulated Lorries or an Artic. (UK)
Can't help asking myself if the "Qualifying specials" (Engines with 5.5 bars of turbo boost pressure and 1400 + hp that were only good for around three laps, sometimes called grenades, and super soft qualifying tires that would also only last around three laps) of the 80s and before added to the logistics.
By the way, it would be fun to see you go to some event, maybe Pikes Peak or so, and report directly. Of course I know nothing about what you're allowed to film and not so I don't know what's possible.
Freight logistics is a dark art. Well, it was back when I worked in road and air freight. I worked in the game before scanners etc. It was all paper-based. Tracking a piece of freight was a matter of physically going through a depot looking for it. I watched scanning and barcodes being introduced and experienced its development. Nowadays with scanning and tracking happening along the entire route, it's surprising that anything goes missing in transit. But it sill does...
As a spectator, the first thing you need to do is choose a driver and team to support. Without that, you’re just watching a bunch of cars do laps. Then you need to look at the circuit you plan to attend, and decide which part of the circuit would suit you the most. For instance, a long straight where they build up enormous speeds, isn’t going to give you much of a vantage point because your driver will have passed by before you realise it. I find the best place is on a hairpin, if there is one, so you can see the cars coming towards you as they slow down to take the corner, and accelerate away. So think carefully about where on the circuit you want to sit. Then you need to find out if there’s a stand there and how much the ticket for that stand is going to cost you. Watch previous events at that circuit to see what your viewpoint would include.
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That's what I personally like about F1. There's so much stuff and it all matters. Throughout the week the eggheads are battling for performance gains, managers for operational money and political advantage, the knives are out. All this movement culminates in an exciting race weekend results of which are visibly influenced by it - it's fascinating.
You should watch a time laps of one of the hospitality units being built its well cool
In Australia, we tend to go with Auspost but there are private ones as well such as Star Track, and Sendle.
Australia Post owns StarTrack.
This should be updated for the 2023 schedule. 24 races over 8 months, it will be grueling.
If you watch Ted Kravitz post race notebook you will see the teams packing up.
They have mobile manufacturing for laying up smaller carbon fiber components. Larger ones may need to be made in the UK and overnighted, sometimes on a dedicated flight, to the race track for use. The teams often have dozens of engineers monitoring the race from their home base and feeding information to the team during the race. It is genuinely a dance of insanity, therefore a wonder to watch.
I'm probably going to get shit for this just because the way the show is now and I didn't look through the comments enough to see if anyone mentioned drive to survive on netlfix for this guy lol. It's what got me into when it first aired and been dedicated to learning the sport ever since.
Logistics is the core component in any war ...
I started watching F1 about 8 years ago when I learned they were now using hybrid technology (extreme, storing energy from both braking, MGUK, and from the exhaust, MGUH, when it wasn't needed for turbocharging) and I'd watched Lewis Hamilton on Top Gear. So, the technology was cool and the champion driver was cool. I had two hooks. A few years later Haas joined as the first American team in decades and I had 3 hooks. It's a freaking blast.
You would see how many people work for a team if they celebrate for a victory. Apparently Redbull have the most crews.
WRC and MotoGP are the only other forms of motorsport that can compare to F1 as they are also worldwide events with just as much planning and logistics behind them
Ian don't forget Bathurst 1000 coming up in October😀
You should do one on the , Aussie v8 supercar transportation..
Its pretty full-on aswell 🤣
Hi Nascar Fan
I come from The Netherlands and i am a big Formula 1 fan
and of course Max Verstappen our Dutch Hero 🏎🏎
You have nice video,s
Greetz Ron from The Netherlands
I think this video is a couple years old, I think. In the mid-late 2010s the big teams (Mercedes, Ferrari, Red Bull) were regularly spending over $400 million per season, sometimes close to $500 million. That's nearly $250 million per car as all the teams in F1 are required to be 2-car, no more, no less. Compare that with IndyCar, where is costs about $10-$15 million per car to run a season. Still not a poor person's game, but a bargain compared to F1. Now they have budget caps in F1 starting with $145 million in 2021, $140 million this season and $135 million next season, although world wide inflation is bumping the cap up a little. There are exceptions build into the caps, like driver salaries, power units and logistics, so it's safe to say the biggest teams will still be spend in the neighborhood of $200 million per year despite the cap.
Williams missed 3 days of testing a couple years ago because the parts hadn’t arrived in time
You need to do a reaction on F1 tires...that too would blow your mind.
I'm probably not the first one to suggest this but it would be great to have you do a reaction series to the Drive to survive series from Netflix on the channel. The unrivaled behind the scene access in this series is amazing. I know you would learn tons of details
Was going to suggest the same...3 months later 🤣