Why Are Some Countries Rich and Others Poor? | Economics for People with Ha-Joon Chang

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ธ.ค. 2019
  • Gaps between countries have always existed, but as late as 1700, per capita income in the wealthiest part of the world (Western Europe) was only 2.5x that of the poorest reason at the time (Africa). In this sixth lecture in INET’s “Economics For People” series, Ha-Joon Chang looks at international inequality.
    About “Economics for People”:
    “It is extremely important for our democracy to function that ordinary citizens understand the key issues and basic theories of economics.” - Ha-Joon Chang
    Economics has long been the domain of the ivory tower, where specialized language and opaque theorems make it inaccessible to most people. That’s a problem.
    In the new series “Economics For People” from the Institute for New Economic Thinking (INET), University of Cambridge economist and bestselling author Ha-Joon Chang explains key concepts in economics, empowering anyone to hold their government, society, and economy accountable.

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  • @gyebiwinfred
    @gyebiwinfred ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I wish people in my country's government were listening to this lecture. As i write everyone in Ghana is eagerly awaiting a loan from IMF s if this will solve our economic problems. Not many years down the line we will be back at IMF with hat in hand looking quick fixes . The lecture was very informative. I intend getting his books to read as well.

    • @omenquentama6453
      @omenquentama6453 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Handful of the rich local people will get even more rich and majority of the money will flow to multinational corporations. People of Ghana will be left with the bill.

  • @takashimurakami6420
    @takashimurakami6420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +157

    I am surprisingly satisfied with lectures conducted by professor Ha- Joon Chang because he always has something or someway new to consider talking about several issues. Very useful to expand knowledge and enrich considerations on issues of my interest. Thanks for the videos.

  • @geekmeee
    @geekmeee ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Basically, it sounds like its all by design.
    ‘Free’ means the ruling class has the ability to put their finger on the scale.

  • @abdullaholawale4937
    @abdullaholawale4937 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i came here from 2 of his books. excellent lecture

  • @vanessaward6082
    @vanessaward6082 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    41:59 "Until 20 years ago, we had this expression called Korean time."
    I had been listening to Ha-Joon's lecture, and as soon as he said this sentence, it stuck out, because here in New Zealand, we have a significant Polynesian culture, where there is a saying "Island Time", which is often treated as humorous. I recently went to Rarotonga, and had first hand experience of "Island Time." It was strange, but wonderful at the same time. At home, I rely on our bus service to get from A to B, where people get very impatient if the bus is late, and when the bus arrives, passengers and drivers just want everyone to hurry up, get on, get a seat, so we can all get going. While in Rarotonga, I caught a bus from the town center to where my family were staying. Because of so much of my life being run by the clock, I was a bit flustered, asked the driver how much the bus fare was to where I was staying, then started flustering around in my wallet for the cash. I was very conscious of holding the bus up and the other passengers. The driver actually said to me "Calm down Mam. Just take a seat." Back home, everyone just stares at you because you're holding up the line, and everyone has places to be by set times, or their tired and exhausted after a long day at work. To actually be told by a bus driver to calm down was rather strange, but I can laugh at it now. Anyhow, my experience in Rarotonga has me questioning my lifestyle, because it causes a lot of stress, mental health issues, and also physical health issues. My question to myself is: "Is it all worth it?"

    • @ev.c6
      @ev.c6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very beautiful personal reflection. 🙂

    • @Bolognabeef
      @Bolognabeef ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In the long run yes. You wouldn't even be able to take a bus if everyone took life so slowly, because busses wouldn't exist

    • @adeadgirl13
      @adeadgirl13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In India we have the exact same thing as Korea called Indian Standard Time. Which means delays of an hour or so are pretty common and accepted.

    • @hfyaer
      @hfyaer ปีที่แล้ว

      Djerba time means 30 minutes late. It's not accepted, it's expected.

    • @rka-truthalwayswins5127
      @rka-truthalwayswins5127 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      IF there was just the time & stress issue, humanity would be fine..!! But when instead of seeking TRUTH, people & society LIE.. i.e. from history books to processed food advertisements to politicians & surgeons, then one must question self & society!!

  • @ksinkar
    @ksinkar ปีที่แล้ว +6

    એકદમ સરસ પ્રવચન છે. વૈશ્વિક આર્થિક ઇતિહાસનો સારાંશ સરલ અને સીધી સમજૂતી, રમુજી ટચુકાઓથી અપેલ છે.

  • @st105900
    @st105900 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This was a fantastically informative lecture. Coming from a poor country, these are the things I know intuitively (that free trade wasn't free and FDI didn't work and protectionism worked). But I had no way to back these up except for my lived experience. Thanks to Prof. Ha-Joon for providing a long historical perspective.

    • @sotch2271
      @sotch2271 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its rather simple, and industry in the early stage can never compete with the full might of a fully builded compagny with a captive market and fans that can influence abroad, for example
      That goes from cultural icons down the way to crude steel until the top of the chains for aeronef or automobile
      Free trade is only really needed in the thing a country lack the capability, or its really not that necessary to have it, or the monetary cost farly outweigh the benefits of producing it inside said country (jobs, economic activity, taxes, without talking about the plus-value that transforming bring and make all the supplier not be reliant on foreign politics diplomatic repercusioon or simple weather for crops for example

    • @akaksjisisejkeieisidj1497
      @akaksjisisejkeieisidj1497 ปีที่แล้ว

      No that’s a moronic coping mechanism from some from an inferior ethnic group. If you weren’t so inferior you wouldn’t be poor

    • @MrNanah38
      @MrNanah38 ปีที่แล้ว

      You call this a great lecture?
      Jesus, I would have fallen asleep.
      This guy is worse than Ben steiner.
      No wonder our kids graduate but still don't know anything.

    • @fredfish4316
      @fredfish4316 ปีที่แล้ว

      You did not understand the lecture.

  • @younghokim1629
    @younghokim1629 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, I thought this professor was a Singaporean. Now I knew he's a Korean, Ha-Joon Chang. I didn't know he's so fluent in English. Good on him.

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well he didn't notice that it was really easy to lift up Singapore a small place in strategic point on map and established English judiciary system and no similar competition except maybe HongKong. You could compare it partially with Estonia in Europe - cold climate, not politically safe zone, divided population but consequent leadership by engineers focusing on high-tech, digital economy.
      But lifting a bigger country is a completely different story. The more people and density the greater spread between top and bottom and older much harder to build democratic, social trust & cooperation, unity to back up one consequent strategy until fruition.

    • @GetUnwoke
      @GetUnwoke ปีที่แล้ว

      well, you kinda have to be good at english if you want to teach at Cambridge University.
      "After graduating from Seoul National University's Department of Economics, he studied at the University of Cambridge, earning an MPhil and a PhD for his thesis entitled The Political Economy of Industrial Policy - Reflections on the Role of State Intervention in 1991."

    • @milesmila3724
      @milesmila3724 ปีที่แล้ว

      That "uh" expression every end sentence will tell u its korean
      That "leh/lah" expression its singaporean😅

  • @emwrmi
    @emwrmi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The series is real eye opener. Thank you very much indeed

  • @pursues6065
    @pursues6065 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The title should be “how the west Systematically oppressing the rest of the world “

  • @ARVINDKUMAR-tk6wi
    @ARVINDKUMAR-tk6wi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very interesting style of lecturing and very eye-opening fact-finding enterprise! Great job, professor! Salute to you!

  • @sandhyamathura
    @sandhyamathura 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Brilliant lecture. Thank you.

  • @davidcanatella4279
    @davidcanatella4279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Convince one group of poor people that they are better than another and they will help you pick everyone's pocket including their own. They'll even step on a few necks.

    • @Nine-Signs
      @Nine-Signs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      And on that day middle management was born, their compliance bought for the cost of an additional hamburger per hour in their pay packet.

  • @adamsvensson8818
    @adamsvensson8818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Wow incredible lecture! The low-quality instiutions makes a lot sense even with the criticism laid against it, as does the fact that unregulated markets serve the interest of the leaders in technological advancements. Great that more economic research is based on empirical experiments instead of meta-analysis

    • @luchadordavid
      @luchadordavid ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are Meta-Analysis not based on lots of smaller individual empirical studies?

    • @MrClockw3rk
      @MrClockw3rk ปีที่แล้ว

      Low quality institutions don’t just appear out of thin air. They are created, by people. Those people are the problem.

  • @akashbharti1534
    @akashbharti1534 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is what i was looking for many many days. Thankyou Sir for this mind boggling lecture.

  • @cinikcynic3087
    @cinikcynic3087 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Amazing lecture.Enjoyed it thoroughly. Thank you very much!

  • @andomikel1
    @andomikel1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two main factors :
    1 a legal system that does not tolerate corruption and protects people from abuse .
    2 an strong educational system .

  • @Eishvar
    @Eishvar ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An eye opening lecture. Thank you for this!

  • @ag992009
    @ag992009 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I think this is one of the most clear lectures I have watched on why poor countries are underdeveloped. It is very unbiased and educational. And it opened my eyes to how poor countries can proceed and escape poverty.

    • @deardaughter
      @deardaughter ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you sum it up for us?

    • @amadou1903
      @amadou1903 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@deardaughter isn’t that too much of a ask? It’s a 45 minutes video 😭

  • @bunmitella9672
    @bunmitella9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank u! This was amazing!👌🏽

  • @Dahanachi
    @Dahanachi ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found it quite fulfilling from a fact-based perspective. This is the first time, I came across a subtle and concrete example with pieces of evidence about the history of Political Economy. Not to forget that lectures as such are not only critical but after all emancipatory from an academic perspective, the best knowledge is the one that is based on sheer truth and particularly attempts to expose the powerful of its wrong deeds and in this case its historical lies, myths, and hypocrisy.
    Looking forward to more lectures like this.

  • @iagohauchi3694
    @iagohauchi3694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Great video! It's really nice to review common economics topics with good info and new approaches (and old forgotten ones as well lol)
    My only complain would be the lack of discussion about institutions in 39:57. AFAIK institutionalists have really strong arguments and explanations about economic development, it would be nice to see a video with a critical analysis about them.
    Again, great video series! Keep it up! 😄

    • @jamshedkarimnazarov7610
      @jamshedkarimnazarov7610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes exactly. I felt the same way. He was criticizing that "low-quality institutions" could not predict the rise of China, however in the book it says that the growth of China is possible, economies can grow under "extractive institutions", but they are "not sustainable"

  • @poetmaggie1
    @poetmaggie1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Poverty of countries has a lot to do with politics and a lot to do with a lack of morality.

  • @rankandfile4016
    @rankandfile4016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love his books too, knowledge and entertainment in one 👍

  • @getgal1
    @getgal1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent lecture. An eye-opening look at world economic development in the last few centuries.

  • @yongwoo1020
    @yongwoo1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Lecture!

  • @paramagan
    @paramagan ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great Insight to real historical facts. Thank you Sir. Current generations forget the hardship thier grandparents had gone through.

  • @petermanuel5043
    @petermanuel5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic discussion. Thanks

  • @daniyara8879
    @daniyara8879 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant lecture by prof. Chang! This should be studied in the developing countries.

  • @larsyoutube6837
    @larsyoutube6837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jefferson’s opposition to Hamilton’s ideas of industrialization was probably more due to self-interest than free-market ideology, he was a farmer and did run a plantation.
    This was in many ways a north south divide and part of ideas that lead to the civil war.
    The drawings of the Hamilton duel have different hats and coats, probably none of the artists was present at the event.

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 ปีที่แล้ว

      Double Landlock isn't always bad 😉 Anyone with Quakers on their side wins, except if you have slave merchants on your side but you eventually loose to the slave merchants anyway.

  • @kaushikkumar2915
    @kaushikkumar2915 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Well one ☝of the precious & knowledgeable
    lectures I have ever seen.

  • @yurigansmith
    @yurigansmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spot-on analysis.

  • @levmoses742
    @levmoses742 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks! I appreciated this.

  • @TruthBeTold.
    @TruthBeTold. ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this very insightful lecture

  • @hussenabdulmenan3240
    @hussenabdulmenan3240 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you 🙏🏽

  • @muhammadnaimmustafa2730
    @muhammadnaimmustafa2730 ปีที่แล้ว

    42:00 korean time...janji melayu...perbahasan y menarik
    .
    43:25 bagus jugak soalan & point ni

  • @casey7411
    @casey7411 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great talk

  • @pankajsinha385
    @pankajsinha385 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing lecture, this is a treasure indeed!

  • @bravewanderer7646
    @bravewanderer7646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow… This was a truly amazing lecture!

  • @djcfun
    @djcfun ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent lecture... Thank you

  • @SouthernCom
    @SouthernCom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Funny and brilliant. Professor Ha-Joon Chang lays bare the figures and facts of "free trade" during the last four centuries

  • @mohammedjafer3019
    @mohammedjafer3019 ปีที่แล้ว

    superb lecture. Thank you sir.

  • @imhotepjasonduncanson6068
    @imhotepjasonduncanson6068 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this informative video.

  • @luizbotelho1908
    @luizbotelho1908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent !

  • @moodist1er
    @moodist1er 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    You can't average the income of hundreds of billionaires in with the incomes of the working poor, that's not a true average of anything.

    • @kgbkgb7616
      @kgbkgb7616 ปีที่แล้ว

      r4ce and eye que have nothing to do with. nothing at alllllllllllllllllll lel

    • @amineaboutalib
      @amineaboutalib ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that's why use the median income

    • @lucqq3792
      @lucqq3792 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kgbkgb7616 they dont. 1) race is a bad and delegitimate way of classifying any human being 2) even if it wasnt, iq tests are only good at exhibiting one answer: how good someone is at an iq test!

    • @kgbkgb7616
      @kgbkgb7616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lucqq3792 race is an excellent way of classifying human beings. A tremendous amount of generalization can be deduced just by knowing ones race. And if all iq tests are good for is iq, the military wouldnt make you take one (in the form of asvab) for entry and job placement (obviously)

    • @lucqq3792
      @lucqq3792 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kgbkgb7616 you can généralise based on freckles by your logic? Why choose race? I can généralise that someone with freckles has freckles, is that what you mean? Because that’s all you’re getting.
      Real markers of distinction are educational and social variables such as how many parents you had, your level of schooling, how much money was in your household, etc
      Also, this is funny to read to me, the asvab isn’t an iq test 😂😂😂😂 jn fact, the asvab is based on educational capital in determining scores, something which directly contradicts what you said before.
      You just hate black people, don’t try and sound smart about it, you’re an idiot (obviously)

  • @HolinessNow7
    @HolinessNow7 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful lecture, smart Lecturer!

  • @adrienforbu5165
    @adrienforbu5165 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good lecture !
    As a french I can confirm all what is say about french big companies (all created with assistance and support of the state : in france we have a kind of "state capitalism")

  • @doellison
    @doellison ปีที่แล้ว

    The images, graphics, and clips really helped his presentation, and he could've used more. I am sure it is better reading his scholarly findings, than listening to them.

  • @shaneyaw4542
    @shaneyaw4542 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a very compelling argument.

  • @usejasiri
    @usejasiri 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    lol, I laughed at the Isaac Newton incident. He just realized his smart ass would never match up to the weirdness that culminates economics

  • @danielhalm5792
    @danielhalm5792 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video but what is the actual conclusion? Is it that we don’t really know? Or is it still economic policy, just that the ‘good policies’ were actually not the best?

  • @derekasomani4838
    @derekasomani4838 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Solid lecture

  • @rojanbowl5064
    @rojanbowl5064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well presented

  • @olugbengajaiyesimi113
    @olugbengajaiyesimi113 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Go read Erik Reinert book ' How rich countries got rich... and why poor countries stay poor '

  • @ngawangchophel4352
    @ngawangchophel4352 ปีที่แล้ว

    great lecture.

  • @Workuj
    @Workuj ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting insights 😊

  • @youtubeoffname
    @youtubeoffname ปีที่แล้ว +13

    How many Africans, and more so African 'leaders'; could spare time from ravaging their own economies and watch this? Thank you, Prof Chang.

    • @colemitchell3426
      @colemitchell3426 ปีที่แล้ว

      a lot of these corrupt african leaders are like this because they are in the pockets of western leaders who know that if african nations elected real leaders, the west would be unable to exploit africas rich natural resources. Also look at the vast history of democracy in africa and how europeans have eityher overthrown or assasinated democratically elected leaders.

    • @santanaxmuigai2064
      @santanaxmuigai2064 ปีที่แล้ว

      Educate yourself first before pulling together an uneducated guess on the situation of countries you know nothing about. Ask yourself, who is it that seems to continually put these puppets in power? While sanctioning these nations. You don't even make an effort in hiding your racism. My god.

  • @dickhamilton3517
    @dickhamilton3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    it's insane to believe that a market in currencies can determine any kind of reasonable comparison between the values of individual currencies. People buy dollars (and any other currencies) only because they must, to conduct their business. Forcing this notion on the rest of the world is just another piece of the dollar hegemony.
    What would the value or price of potatoes be if all humans were obligate potato-eaters?

  • @andreevallecam
    @andreevallecam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:44 regarding the banning of foreign shareholders, the etnonationalism movements in Peru would agree with that requirement.

  • @donmc1950
    @donmc1950 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No mention here on the role of the harnessing of the energy of fossil fuels . Both Britain and the US were early adopters which gave them an early advantage

    • @rka-truthalwayswins5127
      @rka-truthalwayswins5127 ปีที่แล้ว

      One suspects the sudden love to fight climate change comes from the same corrupt economic impulses of the rich nations!!

    • @maxwellsequation4887
      @maxwellsequation4887 ปีที่แล้ว

      XD

  • @Zeitaluq
    @Zeitaluq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Around 40 minutes the issue of keeping time is interesting. The United States and Germany after unification undergoes the Second Industrial Revolution. As the American railroads spread across a continent this gives rise to time keeping and time zones as the trains are synchronised. The interconnections of rail, telegraph and later on from flight keeps the development of a time system for industrial societies and mass production and transport of items.

    • @coolfer2
      @coolfer2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah in an agrarian society, the plants will still be growing whether you are late or on time. So why the rush.

    • @Zeitaluq
      @Zeitaluq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Ferry Wijaya I think in agrarian societies, the seasonal time is important. Miss the time and crop failure mean potentially no food in winter.

  • @MrLee-gj2jz
    @MrLee-gj2jz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A deeper analysis is required on how the wealth looted from the New World set in motion the colonial enterprises of the Dutch and the British. Consider the following:
    - The Iberians had to spend the wealth somewhere. They used it to buy products from their neighbours which created the demand for factories in Europe and new entrepreneurial classes wanting to capture a piece of the business
    - The Iberians spent the money on wars in the Low Countries enriching mercenaries and businessmen who eventually revolted. William of Orange, founder of the present Dutch Royals, was a petty businessman propped up by the guilds
    - Dutch and English shipbuilding technology accelerated in order to embark on pirate expeditions that sought to capture and loot gold shipments returning from Iberian colonies

  • @AbhinavSatyavanshi
    @AbhinavSatyavanshi ปีที่แล้ว

    what a grt lecture

  • @corykriley6222
    @corykriley6222 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible.

  • @jamesmurphy9426
    @jamesmurphy9426 ปีที่แล้ว

    Currency who has the most powerful currency or a balance between export and import with decides labor wages and your rate of industrializing

  • @kor_cinnamon
    @kor_cinnamon ปีที่แล้ว

    It's perfect lecture with x1.25

  • @claudiodeugenio
    @claudiodeugenio ปีที่แล้ว +1

    During the whole 45 min., they didn't use any (!) maps. That's zero (!!) maps in a video, which "explains" economical differences between countries (through) history. 0!!!

  • @yugyu7710
    @yugyu7710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Excellent lecture! What about the Netherlands and Switzerland whom he mentioned developed without such protectionist policies?

    • @TTYounga
      @TTYounga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      In answer to your question it was down to the fact that they did not protect patents until the early 20th century. Below are some excerpts from Professor Chang’s brilliant book Bad Samaritans (which I couldn’t recommend enough if you enjoyed this lecture) on the topic:
      The Netherlands introduced a patent law in 1817, but abolished it in 1869 and did not re-introduce it until 1912. Switzerland had no patent law of any kind until 1888, and that law accorded protection only to ‘inventions that can be represented by mechanical models’. The clause automatically (and intentionally) excluded chemical inventions - at the time, the Swiss were ‘borrowing’ a lot of chemical and pharmaceutical technologies from Germany, the then world leader in those fields.
      Only in 1907, under the threat of trade sanctions by Germany, did the Swiss decide to extend patent protection to chemical inventions. However, even the new patent law did not protect chemical technologies to the degree expected in today’s TRIPS system. Like many other countries at the time, the Swiss refused to grant patents for chemical substances (as opposed to chemical processes). The reasoning was that those substances, unlike mechanical inventions, already existed in nature and, therefore, the ‘inventor’ had merely found a way to isolate them, rather than inventing the substance itself. Chemical substances remained unpatentable in Switzerland until 1978.
      When the Dutch abolished the law (in 1869), they were in no small measure influenced by the anti-patent movement mentioned above - they were convinced that patent, as artificially created monopoly, went against their free-trade principle. Exploiting the absence of a patent law, the Dutch electronics company, Phillips, a household name today, started out in 1891 as a producer of lightbulbs based on the patents ‘borrowed’ from the American inventor, Thomas Edison.

    • @dickhamilton3517
      @dickhamilton3517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TTYounga Swan's lightbulbs were more reliable and cheaper to produce than Edison's. So in UK, they made an accommodation, and our lightbulbs were Swan's, but had the name "Swan-Edison" or "Ediswan" on the box.

    • @SmileRainbow12
      @SmileRainbow12 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TTYounga This is such a useful, illustrative example of how a developed country (Netherlands) built a successful tech company (Phillips) by "borrowing" foreign patents from a more-developed country (Germany)! It was also fun to compare the timeline of the Netherlands and Switzerland instating, abolishing, and then re-instating their patent laws against Otto von Bismarck's term in office (1871-1890, I think). Looks like I'm reading Bad Samaritans.

    • @TTYounga
      @TTYounga 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SmileRainbow12 i couldn’t recommend it highly enough, his writing is amazingly lucid.

    • @malakatan3235
      @malakatan3235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easiest part is post colonization, the bandits is rich, the victims is poor

  • @madloop2456
    @madloop2456 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:58 Didnt expect to see Gary Stevenson as a student

  • @carlg2882
    @carlg2882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @PhillyD
    look at what’s going on in Portland!

  • @halexp
    @halexp 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello asia! im from austria, i love the world.

  • @andreevallecam
    @andreevallecam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    42:22 Regarding lazyness regional expresions, in Peru we have the current "Peruvian time" for delays and 10 years ago the "Cavana time" given the president of the time birthplace. We usually blame the transport.

  • @davidlamb7524
    @davidlamb7524 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The rain it raineth on the just...

  • @thenayshaveit
    @thenayshaveit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How was per capita income in pre-contact sub-Saharan Africa measured?

  • @tobiasbergkvist4520
    @tobiasbergkvist4520 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If you want a country to become richer, then yes - you typically want protectionism to avoid the wealth flowing out of the country. This forces the country to become more self-reliant as well, since it is more expensive to rely on someone external.
    That said, you still need free markets within the country to produce this wealth in the first place. Bad policies and over-regulation that make it difficult to create and maintain companies are still a big reason why some countries remain poorer than their neighbors, and experience a lot of corruption.

    • @tusharpandey858
      @tusharpandey858 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you have watched the video you must understand that the corrupt institution was set mainly by colonial powers, over-protectionism here means "socialist policies" IMF and WTO are notoriously known for establishing free market trade around the globe after colonization with the help of CIA coups and other international subjugation also the fact that west grew copying technologies over the world which most nation can be sanctioned for. China's success in manufacturing and tech is a visible example.

  • @ernestmwape
    @ernestmwape ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Prof Ha-Joon book Bad Samaritans is very reading indeed

  • @vihodanyet
    @vihodanyet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, Subtitles from 39:30 are wrong. Please can someone explain what professor Chang is saying? These subtitles are definitely incorrect, and it is difficult to know what exactly he is saying from his accent????

    • @talkingduck5160
      @talkingduck5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, do you mean the word "Cowichan" he said at 39:13 ? If this is a case, then I can't really answer your question because there are no Taiwanese aborigines who call themselves such.

  • @fredfish4316
    @fredfish4316 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is "New Economic Thinking" about this? Nothing wrong with it but this is basic introductory stuff that development economists have been literally (as per the lecture)theorizing about since the time of Adam Smith. Good overview stuff for an introductory economics history course, but certainly would not substitute for a development economics unit in an economics undergraduate degree.

  • @rsync9490
    @rsync9490 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow, this is more or less like the strategy of victoria 2. When as a nation you industrialize, micromanagement and state capitalist policies are the goal as your industries are vulnerable and simple. As your industries develop you move towards more hands off, free trade as your economy is so large that it would be a pain to micromanage it all.

    • @akumabakemono1447
      @akumabakemono1447 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      -You play Victoria II, one of the best strategy games ever.
      -You watch Ha Joon Chang lessons.
      -You synthesized a really complex topic in 4 lines.
      Let me send you a virtual hug hahaha

    • @ivandafoe5451
      @ivandafoe5451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wrong.
      The later stage capitalist, free-trade policies that have been adopted in the past have only worked because there were undeveloped countries to exploit for there cheap labor, undeveloped local economies and resources.
      That it is an unsustainable, ultimately self-defeating and immoral economic model is the whole point of this lecture.
      Basing anything on the artificial scenarios of board games is at its least laughably juvenile, at its worst in practical reality when applied to human society, it is dangerously destructive and delusional.
      Yet somehow you can't see that...wow indeed.

    • @lutherblissett9070
      @lutherblissett9070 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No... you switch to free trade when you have gained a competitive advantage and gain more from free trade than from protectionism.

    • @mahbrum
      @mahbrum 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ivandafoe5451 You are spot on. Thank you.

    • @fp8901
      @fp8901 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ivandafoe5451 you must be fun at all the parties.

  • @adeadgirl13
    @adeadgirl13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that Gary from @Garyseconomics at 4:25 among the students?

  • @maciejsroczyynski6839
    @maciejsroczyynski6839 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:26 is that Gary Stevenson from Gary's economics?

  • @patrickdenning1944
    @patrickdenning1944 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:28 gary's economics chilling in the background

  • @dragonfly1929
    @dragonfly1929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ADAM SMITH..MOTTO..'GREED IS GOOD'...

    • @ebrelus7687
      @ebrelus7687 ปีที่แล้ว

      More like "Our greed is better than yours" 😁

  • @MacMac0710
    @MacMac0710 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gary's Economics spotted at 4.27 👀

  • @princessjudii
    @princessjudii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Developing countries need a social reset
    Especially in terms of ideologies and a strong sense of patriotism. Love for your country. The truth is that Britain maintained these policies because they desired to be better. Their leaders had a vision. And the RIGHT people were always brought in to fix a problem .
    Most developing countries have a deep sense of “self preservation “
    There is no faith in the political and institutional organizations set up. In summary a hot mess🤦🏽‍♀️
    I’m from Nigeria and watching this, seeing the history of these countries makes me wonder why my country can’t put their feet down and work for its Growth and development
    ^****Really enjoyed the lecture ****^

    • @ivandafoe5451
      @ivandafoe5451 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That "reset" never seems to come from those at top who have accepted and exploited the status quo for personal gain (creating the bad-faith stagnation you decry).

    • @bunmitella9672
      @bunmitella9672 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Im Nigerian too and wld have thought the point of this lecture is to see that its not Jst because of our corrupt leaders. Many r inly in power because the West approves anyway. Point is we r not free - we must succeed in a global capitalist environment that crushes us.

    • @fmiller36
      @fmiller36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bunmitella9672 Exactly... idk how this idiot watched this entire lecture and that point still escaped her.

    • @bunmitella9672
      @bunmitella9672 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dexterkrammer1089 this isn’t just about tariffs. It’s about the natural advantage that accrues to Western countries who are already wealthy and wield way more influence on international trade law. “Free markets “ benefits developed nations not developing ones. For China to succeed it had to do exactly what the West did during its industrialization era - become protectionist. Any of us try that now and we wld be invaded under the guise of bringing us “democracy”. The system is rigged in favor of rich countries who have complete control of all international institutions, international finance and international banks.

    • @malakatan3235
      @malakatan3235 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easiest part is post colonization, the bandits is rich, the victims is poor

  • @ariwijayanto7305
    @ariwijayanto7305 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized, the painting in thumbnaik, its a prince diponegoro surrenders by Raden Saleh

  • @livanoguerrero3385
    @livanoguerrero3385 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Like most people, I usted to blame poverty on the rich until I studied económics and statistical anaysis which helped me differentiate reality from fiction and understand that individual and collective poverty or wealth originates in a state of mind which models the behavior of people over time. Poor people hate ando blame rich people for their misfortunes while rich people inherit the attitude that they must be disciplined and work hard to avoid becoming poor...

    • @wiv2631
      @wiv2631 ปีที่แล้ว

      @MeurglysIV No, I think he understood the lecture well, and also recognizes that the lecture did not probe the question of what leads a society to a positive outlook that encourages seeking development and an improved life.

    • @josetanago
      @josetanago ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wiv2631 So, you and Livano Guerrero have probed that "theory" of yours? or is it kind of a learned mantra, or propaganda? Could any of you two elaborate a bit more which facts support your theory of the "state of mind"? I would love to listen a discussion between you two and Prof.Ha-Joon Chang. And see if you can support your arguments with evidences and not being challenged by this Prof.
      I think yours is either arrogance or kind of belief (rather than a rational scientific and illustrated theory)

    • @michaelanderson3672
      @michaelanderson3672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did you even watch the lecture mate, get the neo liberal thought out of ur head

    • @livanoguerrero3385
      @livanoguerrero3385 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelanderson3672 Theory that is not corroborated by scienttific experiment is mere speculation; I trust history and statistical analisys over speculation...

  • @TheDynamicmarket
    @TheDynamicmarket 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what are policy implications? nationalise all industries and isolate yourself from the rest of the world?

  • @GregoryWonderwheel
    @GregoryWonderwheel ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone cites Adam Smith without quoting correctly and cherry picking, referencing Wealth of Nations and avoiding any reference to The Theory of Moral Sentiments.

  • @andreevallecam
    @andreevallecam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    30:26 key point: "if you just look to the current stats, state owned contribution to GDP is ~1%, but when you look at what they did to start its own development, create new industries and new technologies, you would not have that view". This close minded non historical perspective of a country developmental process is the root behind liberalism or libertarios movements in latinoamerica. US-let and WB and IMF-mediated subordination.

  • @TheForeverMan
    @TheForeverMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ''....basically, they use pseudo-science to justify their evil.'' Prof. Dr eJb

  • @easygamingwwiigamingchanne729
    @easygamingwwiigamingchanne729 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    SOme countries valued prosperity and freedoms, while other areas did not care about that.

  • @thierrylaval4449
    @thierrylaval4449 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Work or...looting and slavery?
    China demonstrated work offers peace and prosperity while looting and slavery is prosperity at the expense of others.

  • @rishikakade6351
    @rishikakade6351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent presentation. Thank you!

  • @LiveCustoms
    @LiveCustoms ปีที่แล้ว

    4:27 is that Gary Stevenson lol?

  • @user-hd5zm6tj9e
    @user-hd5zm6tj9e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:40-32:00

    • @Chocomintrocky
      @Chocomintrocky 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      本当に正確によく時間を設定していますね!!!えらい!!!

  • @nadvga6650
    @nadvga6650 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    everything can only change if the society acts on it. so how do we make those nations societies start acting up ?

    • @wiv2631
      @wiv2631 ปีที่แล้ว

      His lecture was quite interesting, bur he failed to probe your question which seems to be the most essential question when it comes to the prosperity of severely underdeveloped countries. I am of the opinion that outside countries can't provide that which sparks development, in that the desire for development must come from within the underdeveloped society itself. Admittedly I could be wrong, so it will be interesting to see how Chinese projects started in parts of Africa work out.

  • @dallasweaver4061
    @dallasweaver4061 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems a bit of a history spin. When Hamilton was pushing import tariffs, we had no income tax and tariffs were a major source of funds for the government which the treasury needed. Bureaucracies learned how to protect their funding sources 2,000 years ago and haven't forgotten since then. The US didn't decrease tariffs until we had a very significant income tax.
    He then goes on to state that the US military effectively created the semi-conductor industry which indicates he doesn't understand the evolution of the semi-conductor industry. It was invented by Bell labs which was AT&T, but the phone service was the last major electronics industry to use semi-conductors and evolving chips. It was an unknown geotechnical firm now called Texas Instruments who needed very small circuits for seismic work the blew the field open followed by an unknown "camera and instrument" firm which then spawned others and Silicon Valley. Our military had a huge program to make vaccume tubes smaller and rejected chips as being too vaunerable to EMP to be used in the military. By '84 when the first Apple Mac computer came out, the chip in that unit was three generations ahead of anything the military had or was "approved" for military applications (according to my cousin who was designing the new military electronic systems for our new fighter jets -- he was green with envy). If the military was leading, it was leading from way behind.
    He even spins the relevance of government funding and control in technological development. For example, Japan created a 5th generation project with multi-billions in subsidies to move ahead of Intel in computer chips. Note that Intel's big competition today isn't from Japan with all that government or any massive subsidized competors. Companies like AMD hired people from Intel. France spend billions to become dominant in memory chips, but again that was just money down a rat hole.
    He goes on to claim that foreign direct investment with foreign technical competence doesn't help, while research by economists demonstrate best way to get technology transfer is to move people. He doesn't seem to understand that the US protectionist policies and investment policies have hurt the US economy. Effectively our tariff policies didn't support "infant industries and innovation" but supported the old senile companies to the detriment of innovation. A good example is our steel tariffs we now have that have harmed all the downstream industries while protecting the steel worker union and US Steel. US Steel closed the only significant R&D operation in the US in the early '60s with the only innovation being in the steel recycling businesses.
    He does show that most of the reasons for success and failure of countries don't work but one area he neglected is regulatory policy. For example, in the US we have a regulatory policy that effectively prevents off-shore aquaculture (raising aquatic plants and animals) and Korea has a supportive policy allow individuals to effectly lease ocean areas and is expanding at a rapid rate for the last half a century. The industry in Korea is very creative and dynamic while all the US talent is effectively working outside the US.
    He sounds good, but doesn't make sense.

  • @vikramvicky4569
    @vikramvicky4569 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about politics and democracy?

  • @carllelendt5452
    @carllelendt5452 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very long time ago I read a theory (which probably dated to earlier part of 20th century) about this question. In short, the theory related to water quality and sanitation practices of populations. I suppose it could be argued that such an idea at the time could've been pro-industry propaganda. Nevertheless, the "science" underscoring that theory or idea, was that a population with good water quality, sanitation etc, will be less disease prone and, in the long term, more vigorous, robust, etc..