Awesome information. glad you explained why you might use this versus a popping cork setup. Plus this gives me extra satisfaction when my wife's eye twitches by taking things from the kitchen to use for fishing. (knives, can openers, cutting board, and now her lemon bottle! lol.)
Great video Jeff. Another way you could accomplish the same result is with a slip bobber setup. Basically you have a bobber stop on your line that you can move up and down. This allows your bobber to slide down to your bait for easy casting. Once the bait hits the water it sinks to the set depth. It's a little difficult to describe but a quick search will return some videos. Love the content, keep it coming.
@@andrewrollins4898 Another commenter made the interesting assertion that the lemon rig has more sensitivity b/c of the way the line is directly connected to your hook. I imagine that could make a difference with light biters like sheepshead that aren't usually going to pull your float underwater.
@@andrewrollins4898 with a slip float, the fish has to pull the float under before youll actually feel a hit. With lemon rig, presumably youd feel the hit right away. By dropper rig i presume you mean a 3 way/paternoster rig? Thatll work of course, but that kind of defeats the purpose of being snagfree. Even if i use rounded bank sinkers, ill get caught on the rocks every 4-5 casts fishing that way. Same goes for fishfinder rigs. Great in the surf or off a pier but not ideal for jetty. Lead is expensive man.
@@andrewrollins4898 oh, you mean a dropshot rig. Im familiar with that. I call it a lazy mans 3 way rig lol. The same rigs have different names in different applications, like fishfinder rig vs carolina rig. As for floats, you can watch them but with any amount of swell its gonna be hard to tell, especially since sheepshead bite so lightly. That being said, if you fish it active like a popping cork youll have better sensitivity.
@@andrewrollins4898 im heading to the gulf coast to jetty fish this summer, definitely considering giving the ol 3 way another shot if i can get my hands on cheap leads 😂. If not itll be jerkbaits, doa shrimp, and swimjigs for the trip. I dont mind dropping money on terminal tackle but the boss does
Nice videos! Keep up the good work. I have never used a lemon rig and heard that you can shorten or lengthen the depth by pushing or pulling the line in and out of the bottle and using tightening the cap to keep it in place.
It's been a minute bro! Glad to have you back. Thanks for making this video. In the future could you make a "Tying on Spoons and application" video? I always see you and Cooper using them.
Hey Jeff. First things first. I too contribute my hard earned dollars at Arby's. Thanks for the assembly steps. I dont think there is a video on how to assemble this rig. The Bait Bucket has a short video on this rig but it's to let the fishing community aware they sell the rig.
So I just had an idea to build something like this and Googled it and there it was that's pretty badass. My question is what about heavy current like on the bridges period when I have to use a split shot to keep my bait down? Usually in heavy current they usually comes to the top
Thanks for this video. It is great when you show how it is done and why. Just got into fishing and videos like this help a lot. Saw your video with thresher using this and that is how I got here. Also is it allowed to clean fish on the beach or jetties before taking home? Thanks.
Hey thanks, I'm in The Bahamas and will try your lemon rig this morning from the rocks (26.5.18) I will vlog it and update ya later! Very informative vid!
So the first time I saw this rig was on the Texas city dike. This was more than three years ago. This guy who I think was from Texas city, shows up when we had been there for about two hours and immediately started tearing it up. He caught a flounder that was at least two feet long. He and his wife caught more fish using this rig with about five foot leads in an hour than my buddy and I caught all day.
Hiya from the tiny island of Malta. Interesting setup. Been hearing you mention this lemon rig for a while now. Gonna set this up and try it out compare it to the running float setup which I normally use.
My last trip to our jetties, I lost so much tackle, I think my bait shop is going to upgrade their kids college to ivy league. I'm definitely trying the lemon rig next time I fish the rocks.
Jeff, just discovered your channel, but noticed you haven't posted in TWO YEARS!! I fish the Port A area and used to live on the island. Hope all is well.
In the 2nd part of video Jeff will show you that at the Jettie when there is currant you can walk along with the Lrig so you don"t have to cast a bunch and chunck your bait off??????
Awesome bro! I’m in Corpus and usually only kayak flats but with this I might try jetties. 8 feet is all I need? I thought it was really deep there. Thnx for this great tip.
Jeff, met you guys out a port A jetties this past weekend, I told you guys about the jack I hooked out market 37, the guy with the saragosa and st croix rod....I use a slip bobber rig with live mullet, can set any depth....question is; you think the lemon rig is a quicker set than slip bobber?
I appreciate the info. I always wanted to try fishing this way, you explained it real well, hope to get down to corpus in a week or so, I will watch any tutorial video you want to put out I'm not the dumbest fisherman but sure ain't the smartest either. lol
Tbh, I'd bank on a simple sliding float with a stop knot being a better option, simply because the depth at which you fish can be varied infinitely by moving the stop knot, to cope with the tide coming in and out, else you'd have to be continually shortening or lengthening your leader....
Posted this on another comment but it was just like yours; slip bobbers work beautifully for the exact reasons you mentioned. The difference I have noticed is in being able to sense the bite more on the lemon rig. I think it has to do with the way the line is connected between the bait and the rod. Something about that orientation allows you to feel the hit rather than relying on the bobber going under to indicate a fish on.
why would you use this instead of a slip float? Seems like they accomplish pretty much the same thing except you can get even deeper with the slip float.
Usually how deep are the jetties after the rocks end? We used popping corks out there and cut bait on spider weights but had limited success. I wonder if we were getting deep enough. Also, do you recommend using cut or frozen bait on the lemon rig or is live shrimp the best?
On the channel side, about 15 feet out from the rocks, the average depth is 20-30 feet. Where most of the fish dwell however is right above the rocks at the outermost edge which is usually around 10ft. On the Surfside at the end of the jetty there is a bank and a drop off that moves and changes with the tides and weather. I've seen it get as deep as 50ft and as shallow as 10ft but again where most of the fish hang seems to be right on the edge of the rocks in 10-15 feet depths. Best baits for lemon rig is going to be live ones I think. Shrimp, pin perch, fingerling mullet. Cut baits and frozen manhadens work great on bottom rigs for monster reds and sharks.
It's a brilliant idea but the lemon bottles I get are pretty thick. Don't know if the light would shine through and it would have to be waterproof as you need the weight on the bottle to get it out to the fishies
Some places sell them "premade" with split shots or bb's inside. Since these have higher density than water (but not by much) this could help if it's the smaller size of lemon bottle and you need to retain a decent level of bouyancy. If you can find the larger lemon bottle save the money on the split shots!
I've seen 2 modifications that help with this; using heavier weight line (50#) and shorting the length of the lemon line by about 6 inches. Also, and I couldn't really explain why but using a spinning real tangles less than a baitcast. Pure anecdotal evidence here but it seems to make a difference for I dunno what reason : /
I stick to 7' plus rods on the jetties personally. That extra reach has gotten me out of a couple pickles and also helps get that spoon out to the frenzy when needed.
If you're willing to possibly sacrifice a couple of sinkers, get a heavy sinker and tie up a fishfinder rig with a plastic bottle or float at the end instead of a hook. Cast it out where you want to fish, and pull the line tight so that the float/bottle abuts the sinker. Then gradually feed line out, foot by foot (helps if you mark a line on your rod) until the float/bottle pops back up. That'll be the depth of that area, +/- a foot or so depending on swell.
Slip bobbers work beautifully for the exact reasons you mentioned. The difference I have noticed is in being able to sense the bite more on the lemon rig. I think it has to do with the way the line is connected between the bait and the rod. Something about that orientation allows you to feel the hit rather than relying on the bobber going under to indicate a fish on.
I've had good luck up there with a lemon rig but the best use in my opinion is just how Jeff and Jung were using them, right above those edge rocks at the deeper drops.
You guys should call it the CC Lemon Rig as you both live in Corpus Christie and from this day forward it will forever be known in fishing books and videos everywhere that the CC Lemon Rig was invented by two wild and crazy anglers in Corpus Christie Texas! Forget the slip bobber!
The fluid left in the lemon adds weight to your line and assists in a good cast, it also gives you good line feel as it suspends the bait in the water column you can get a very sensitive feel as to nibbles and full on bites . Lemon riggs have been used for years ( in Corpus ), we used to use them for Trout with live shrimp back in the 80s.
I think he meant, instead of the lemon bottle for the floating device, why not just use a cork. I'm curious as well. I think that the lemon bottle allows for you to adjust the weight of the rig and the length of the leader by sliding more line into the lemon bottle then tightening the cap back on to lock it in place. What do you think?
I'm sure you and the guys think your a good boys but your not. You let those fish you return beat the hell out of themselves on the rocks or concrete. Did you never hear about a fish pillow/blanket ?
Jeff and Coop and the rest of their crew do more for being responsible anglers than 90% of the guys and gals I see out on those jetties so let's not beat them up too much! You raise an excellent point though and it's one that even I hadn't considered much. Thanks for raising awareness!
Awesome information. glad you explained why you might use this versus a popping cork setup. Plus this gives me extra satisfaction when my wife's eye twitches by taking things from the kitchen to use for fishing. (knives, can openers, cutting board, and now her lemon bottle! lol.)
Great video Jeff. Another way you could accomplish the same result is with a slip bobber setup. Basically you have a bobber stop on your line that you can move up and down. This allows your bobber to slide down to your bait for easy casting. Once the bait hits the water it sinks to the set depth. It's a little difficult to describe but a quick search will return some videos. Love the content, keep it coming.
@@andrewrollins4898 Another commenter made the interesting assertion that the lemon rig has more sensitivity b/c of the way the line is directly connected to your hook. I imagine that could make a difference with light biters like sheepshead that aren't usually going to pull your float underwater.
@@andrewrollins4898 with a slip float, the fish has to pull the float under before youll actually feel a hit. With lemon rig, presumably youd feel the hit right away. By dropper rig i presume you mean a 3 way/paternoster rig? Thatll work of course, but that kind of defeats the purpose of being snagfree. Even if i use rounded bank sinkers, ill get caught on the rocks every 4-5 casts fishing that way. Same goes for fishfinder rigs. Great in the surf or off a pier but not ideal for jetty. Lead is expensive man.
@@andrewrollins4898 oh, you mean a dropshot rig. Im familiar with that. I call it a lazy mans 3 way rig lol. The same rigs have different names in different applications, like fishfinder rig vs carolina rig. As for floats, you can watch them but with any amount of swell its gonna be hard to tell, especially since sheepshead bite so lightly. That being said, if you fish it active like a popping cork youll have better sensitivity.
@@andrewrollins4898 im heading to the gulf coast to jetty fish this summer, definitely considering giving the ol 3 way another shot if i can get my hands on cheap leads 😂. If not itll be jerkbaits, doa shrimp, and swimjigs for the trip. I dont mind dropping money on terminal tackle but the boss does
SUPERB video, Jeff. I've been waiting for a thorough breakdown of the lemon rig and u didn't disappoint.
Nice videos! Keep up the good work. I have never used a lemon rig and heard that you can shorten or lengthen the depth by pushing or pulling the line in and out of the bottle and using tightening the cap to keep it in place.
It's been a minute bro! Glad to have you back. Thanks for making this video. In the future could you make a "Tying on Spoons and application" video? I always see you and Cooper using them.
Im late to the lemon rig, but..... im on it! I cant wait to try this. Thank you for the great demo and explanation.
I like the authority you say “Liquor Store” with. Well done!
Good video Jeff. You and Coop need to have a furthest cast competition.
See you went to the same art school. Thanks for sharing Jeff.
Great demo! Very handy when targeting pelagics as they tend to feed in the upper zones in the water
Good video. Never tried or used this rig. Heard it earlier today on a video. You came up on Google and completely explained!
Hey Jeff. First things first. I too contribute my hard earned dollars at Arby's. Thanks for the assembly steps. I dont think there is a video on how to assemble this rig. The Bait Bucket has a short video on this rig but it's to let the fishing community aware they sell the rig.
So I just had an idea to build something like this and Googled it and there it was that's pretty badass. My question is what about heavy current like on the bridges period when I have to use a split shot to keep my bait down? Usually in heavy current they usually comes to the top
Thanks for this video. It is great when you show how it is done and why. Just got into fishing and videos like this help a lot. Saw your video with thresher using this and that is how I got here. Also is it allowed to clean fish on the beach or jetties before taking home? Thanks.
A buddy sent me a link to your videos. Much appreciated man. Aaaaaaand now I'm eager to get down to the coast and fish.
Dang out of nowhere Jeff with the tutorial SWEET
Yes bro! More informational vids. I need to learn how to target sheepies, never once caught them on rod and reel
Hey thanks, I'm in The Bahamas and will try your lemon rig this morning from the rocks (26.5.18) I will vlog it and update ya later! Very informative vid!
So the first time I saw this rig was on the Texas city dike. This was more than three years ago. This guy who I think was from Texas city, shows up when we had been there for about two hours and immediately started tearing it up. He caught a flounder that was at least two feet long. He and his wife caught more fish using this rig with about five foot leads in an hour than my buddy and I caught all day.
I wish it wasn’t Sunday damnnnnnnn liquor store closed , will go by in morning and by some lemon 🍋 rigs, great informative video
Oh wow that rig is so cool and looks extremely effective.
Hiya from the tiny island of Malta. Interesting setup. Been hearing you mention this lemon rig for a while now. Gonna set this up and try it out compare it to the running float setup which I normally use.
Gonna use this method when i go back to Galveston jetties and Sea wolf park
Yo your boy from Australia! I've made this rig but with a normal reflector float which works. I use live mullet and it works great.
My last trip to our jetties, I lost so much tackle, I think my bait shop is going to upgrade their kids college to ivy league. I'm definitely trying the lemon rig next time I fish the rocks.
thats pretty neat looking rig. think i need to def give this a try. very informative
Jeff, just discovered your channel, but noticed you haven't posted in TWO YEARS!! I fish the Port A area and used to live on the island. Hope all is well.
In the 2nd part of video Jeff will show you that at the Jettie when there is currant you can walk along with the Lrig so you don"t have to cast a bunch and chunck your bait off??????
Awesome bro! I’m in Corpus and usually only kayak flats but with this I might try jetties. 8 feet is all I need? I thought it was really deep there. Thnx for this great tip.
Arby's is the bomb! French dip! And thanks for the edit - was curious
Thank you this tutorial is very helpful. You made a believer outta me. Can't wait to make my own and catch some Sheepers.
Jeff, met you guys out a port A jetties this past weekend, I told you guys about the jack I hooked out market 37, the guy with the saragosa and st croix rod....I use a slip bobber rig with live mullet, can set any depth....question is; you think the lemon rig is a quicker set than slip bobber?
I have never fished the jetty because i dont want to lose a butt load of terminal tackle.
NOW i will start because of this rig.
Great job perfect detail of purpose and reason definitely thumbs up 2 u
I appreciate the info. I always wanted to try fishing this way, you explained it real well, hope to get down to corpus in a week or so, I will watch any tutorial video you want to put out I'm not the dumbest fisherman but sure ain't the smartest either. lol
Just asking I'm assuming the lemon rig only works on heavy or super heavy rods? Plus is that Mr. Young from San Antonio? Thanks
8:15 that fishing location looks very familiar... is it Corpus Christi?
Great vid, bro! Definitely liking the informative vids.
Thanks ive been watching you guys use never knew why now i know thanks
Do you think this would work fishing for blackfish in New Jersey using green crab as bait?
😄😄😄 awesome! Thank you I'll have to try the lemon rig 😁👍
Great info! I've always wanted to try this.
Tbh, I'd bank on a simple sliding float with a stop knot being a better option, simply because the depth at which you fish can be varied infinitely by moving the stop knot, to cope with the tide coming in and out, else you'd have to be continually shortening or lengthening your leader....
Posted this on another comment but it was just like yours;
slip bobbers work beautifully for the exact reasons you mentioned. The difference I have noticed is in being able to sense the bite more on the lemon rig. I think it has to do with the way the line is connected between the bait and the rod. Something about that orientation allows you to feel the hit rather than relying on the bobber going under to indicate a fish on.
Very informative video bro👍
Bro I'm going to try that for freshwater!
Where you at Jeff ?? Miss the videos !
why would you use this instead of a slip float? Seems like they accomplish pretty much the same thing except you can get even deeper with the slip float.
Usually how deep are the jetties after the rocks end? We used popping corks out there and cut bait on spider weights but had limited success. I wonder if we were getting deep enough. Also, do you recommend using cut or frozen bait on the lemon rig or is live shrimp the best?
On the channel side, about 15 feet out from the rocks, the average depth is 20-30 feet. Where most of the fish dwell however is right above the rocks at the outermost edge which is usually around 10ft. On the Surfside at the end of the jetty there is a bank and a drop off that moves and changes with the tides and weather. I've seen it get as deep as 50ft and as shallow as 10ft but again where most of the fish hang seems to be right on the edge of the rocks in 10-15 feet depths. Best baits for lemon rig is going to be live ones I think. Shrimp, pin perch, fingerling mullet. Cut baits and frozen manhadens work great on bottom rigs for monster reds and sharks.
Nice!!! Thanks for teaching!
Nice video. Ever tried a balloon rig?
Great idea!
Could this be used as a night bobber if you stuck a mini glow stick in it?
It's a brilliant idea but the lemon bottles I get are pretty thick. Don't know if the light would shine through and it would have to be waterproof as you need the weight on the bottle to get it out to the fishies
Why cant you cast a popping cork far?
Thx Jeff im gonna try it
I've seen them with some sort of rattle in the lemon itself, have you used them like that before? If so how'd that go?
Some places sell them "premade" with split shots or bb's inside. Since these have higher density than water (but not by much) this could help if it's the smaller size of lemon bottle and you need to retain a decent level of bouyancy. If you can find the larger lemon bottle save the money on the split shots!
Can u use this rigs with lures?
What keeps the bait line and the lemon line from getting tangled ??
They get tangled sometimes! you can use heavier line to resist the twisting though!
Didn't know you were from Fort Worth! I work close to that liquor store
So I made a lemon rig. How do I keep the two lines from getting tangled?
I've seen 2 modifications that help with this; using heavier weight line (50#) and shorting the length of the lemon line by about 6 inches. Also, and I couldn't really explain why but using a spinning real tangles less than a baitcast. Pure anecdotal evidence here but it seems to make a difference for I dunno what reason : /
What size rods do y'all typically use to cast lemon rigs?
I stick to 7' plus rods on the jetties personally. That extra reach has gotten me out of a couple pickles and also helps get that spoon out to the frenzy when needed.
Can you fill the lemon bottle with water
Do you have any suggestions to figure out the depth of the water?
There’s a castable sonar from Deeper but I’ve never used it. I’ve mostly just asked locals that seem to know what they’re doing!
If you're willing to possibly sacrifice a couple of sinkers, get a heavy sinker and tie up a fishfinder rig with a plastic bottle or float at the end instead of a hook. Cast it out where you want to fish, and pull the line tight so that the float/bottle abuts the sinker. Then gradually feed line out, foot by foot (helps if you mark a line on your rod) until the float/bottle pops back up. That'll be the depth of that area, +/- a foot or so depending on swell.
why not use a slip bobber rig which can be depth adjusted much easier n faster?
plus your rig is prone to get tangles
Slip bobbers work beautifully for the exact reasons you mentioned. The difference I have noticed is in being able to sense the bite more on the lemon rig. I think it has to do with the way the line is connected between the bait and the rod. Something about that orientation allows you to feel the hit rather than relying on the bobber going under to indicate a fish on.
Your the man jeff !!!
Will the lemon rig also work well up the channel?
I've had good luck up there with a lemon rig but the best use in my opinion is just how Jeff and Jung were using them, right above those edge rocks at the deeper drops.
Love your drawing
Hahaha. You get a like for that stance!
I use BBs inside on the lemon rig....
Great videos, I hope to run into run into you someday. Buy you a whataberger or something
What if u wanna fish like 20 ft deep?
Nice info friend
You guys should call it the CC Lemon Rig as you both live in Corpus Christie and from this day forward it will forever be known in fishing books and videos everywhere that the CC Lemon Rig was invented by two wild and crazy anglers in Corpus Christie Texas! Forget the slip bobber!
Charlie it wasn’t invented by them everyone know what a lemon rug is
My cringy Fortnite skills no but they sure made it popular around here. Evident by all the lemon rigs scattered down the jetties.
Weight?
I'm so hungry I could eat at Arbys!
Arby's and Stripes are the new sponsors of the channel, be ready to see em in every video from now on. 🤑
Can you post this on Facebook ( FAST) fishing artificial saltwater texas
Haven’t heard of it!
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Million views
great video, should be useful
Just use a slip flot.
On april fools nonetheless.
Why not just throw a bobber on the line? Someone please explain?
The fluid left in the lemon adds weight to your line and assists in a good cast, it also gives you good line feel as it suspends the bait in the water column you can get a very sensitive feel as to nibbles and full on bites . Lemon riggs have been used for years ( in Corpus ), we used to use them for Trout with live shrimp back in the 80s.
Forgot to say, Great video Jeff. I watch you and Thresher all the time to keep up with the fishing down there.
I think he meant, instead of the lemon bottle for the floating device, why not just use a cork.
I'm curious as well. I think that the lemon bottle allows for you to adjust the weight of the rig and the length of the leader by sliding more line into the lemon bottle then tightening the cap back on to lock it in place.
What do you think?
I'm sure you and the guys think your a good boys but your not.
You let those fish you return beat the hell out of themselves on the rocks or concrete.
Did you never hear about a fish pillow/blanket ?
Jeff and Coop and the rest of their crew do more for being responsible anglers than 90% of the guys and gals I see out on those jetties so let's not beat them up too much! You raise an excellent point though and it's one that even I hadn't considered much. Thanks for raising awareness!