Conference championships need to be reworked. Tennessee and Ohio State are actually being rewarded this week by getting to practice/rest/heal players and not having to worry about a game this weekend. Additionally, are you really going to tell SMU that their 12-game body of work doesn't matter because they lost an extra game 99% of teams were not good enough to qualify for? How about making the SEC play a 9th conference game like everyone else and let the other conferences play one more G5 team and the conference team with the best record wins their respective title and the automatic bye?
Not sure if there’s a right way to do it I agree with you saying it bs wrong to have teams get rewarded for doing worse. The teams that did the best in 12 games Oregon Penn State Texas Georgia do it deserve to have to play each other/all on one side of tournament. Oregon Penn State OSU are the 1/5/8/9 seeds while Georgia doesn’t have to play a top 5 team until finals. I know they can’t put the teams in place so half the top5 and bottom 5 are on each side. So how do you make it right. I say get rid of conf bids and rank teams fairly unless someone is an alumni of notre dame Indiana Miami everyone knows those tea,s played bad sch and lost to bad teams. If they are even in they need to be 10/11/12 seeds. It’s crap to have the top teams have to play the 3/4/5 best teams right after bye they should get those 10/11/12 seed teams.
@@Boom38119 - In my proposal, the conference team that finishes first in their conference over a 13-game season gets the bye. There is no reason to play the additional game.
A win over a Top 12 Clemson team on the road - which feels like a pretty big piece of a resume, especially this time of year - moved South Carolina up... one spot. A win over 5-6 Auburn at home moved Alabama up... two spots. THE RIG IS IN!
Hell gonna brake loose from ESPN and SEC chairman if Miami is ahead of bama!! It might happen but it’s a bigger backlash then putting bama ahead of Miami
@@SomeChinkactually they kind of did. TCU lost their conference championship game to a 4-loss Kansas State team who got destroyed by a 1/20th loaded Alabama team but highly motivated because KSt(GaySt) did the thing they do best and talk too much smack and got smacked for it. The argument could have been made that year Tulane (who beat USC mind you) or unfortunately had two SEC teams playing two BiG10 teams or any other team besides TCU get selected. Michigan underestimated them (TCU) and their arrogance bit them in the ass (pun intended given a few scores that should have happened but didn’t). The argument is not invalid. I wouldn’t have hired Sonny Dykes for starters. TCU not making a bowl game last season proved that was fluky the year before. This is truth. This year whomever the two teams are that play for a national championship will have earned it for sure legitimately or as close to legitimate as possible as opposed to the previous 150+ seasons of FBS history where debatable champ was warranted.
Yes. Tcu notre Oklahoma they all got pounded by playing the top 3 teams when it was 4 team. It’s now 12 so the actual 3/4/5 best teams will be in. When it’s was 4 team only 2 of the actual topm4 teams got in because they had to play each other Alabama/georgia OSU/Penn State OSU/Mich doesn’t count Mich cheated las three yrs. Thought is who ever didn’t win those games were 11-1/10-2 and were the 3/4/5 best teams but they always put the 12-0/11-1 weak conf sch teams in. Florida state got pounded by Georgia 56-3? Alabama actually prob beat Mich. overall with 12 team every actual top 5 team gets in no matter who ranked where and that’s what matters the most not what weak conf sch teams get in.
Only thing I can possibly see changing the 3 SEC teams order after this week is who wins between Texas and Georgia becoming a better win/loss for specific team. If Georgia wins Bama gets a nudge up, if Georgia loses Bamas win looks slightly less good. Also, Miami having 0 wins vs teams in the field. Why not mention BYU who does. They aren’t also a 2 loss team with better SOS.
yeah, if that was the case, it wouldn’t matter if Boise State wins their championship either. And no one is saying that they would be in the CFP if they lost, even though they’re rank 10.
I think after 12 games the CFP should lock it down and go with a 12 team playoff, the conference championship games should not factor in because not all college teams are playing and with only few teams playing and risking a loss it becomes unfair to the teams that deserve to be rewarded for making it and not punished when all other teams sit at home without no worries of playing one more week without a worry of another loss on their record.
Agree, 100%! Let the conference championships just be for bragging rights into trophy, but they should not affect the playoff structure whatsoever. Take the top 12 teams, and go with that!
Yes they will punish SMU if they lose to a 3-loss Clemson. They will probably put SMU in still possibly as long as they don’t get blown out and lose like TCU did two years ago in the Big12 conference championship game. They will be seeded 10-12 though and Clemson will not get in just like Kansas State did not get in two years ago. What will happen is both MwC champ and the AAC champ could both get in still especially if it is 1-loss Boise State and 1-loss Army as conference champions. The Big12 champ is in and probably the 3rd or 4th seed. Miami may still get in as well and take Georgia’s slot if they lose SEC championship game against Texas and lose bad. So the 12 seed teams in 12-team playoff would look like the following. 1. Oregon 2. Texas 3. Arizona State 4. Boise State 5. Penn State 6. Notre Dame 7. Georgia or Miami 8. Ohio State 9. Tennessee 10. Army 11. Indiana 12. SMU First round byes: Oregon Texas Arizona State Boise State First round matchups: SMU @ Penn St Indiana @ Notre Dame Army @ Georgia or Miami Tennessee @ Ohio State
I guess nobody pay attention that Ole Miss curb stomping South Carolina 27-3 at Columbia and beating Georgia who humiliated Clemson 34-3 that South Carolina barely won? Ole Miss is also beating South Carolina and Georgia far better than Alabama did.
@@justinsummerlin209isn't this whole conversation around three teams? You want the head to head to matter so much. But in the end bama probably gets it. They say it's a head to head thing when really it's about what logo is on the head.
Too much emphasis on head to head with SC. Value the wins and value the losses. Bama beating SC head to head by 2 at home should not give them the advantage when they got whooped by a bad team in November.
Stack then12 games right next to each team. What stands out as a NO is Alabama getting beat 24-3 by a bad team. The other got beat as well to bad teams but not lopsided like that. That 24-3 should lockout Alabama otherwise it’s a joke.
@@rodneyzaumetzer3626 Penn State is overrated, they have a good defense and an anemic offense. They didn't beat any good team and they didn't win impressively against weak teams. Ohio State is a good team, but not because they lost 2 games. It is how they won their 10 games that makes them good.
Clemson is the biggest joke of this tire conversation. And for them to claim to be a conference equal to the SEC, and the number 18 ranked team in the nation is playing for their conference championship? Laughable.
@ even if Clemson wins the ACC championship, they still do not deserve to be in the playoff picture for a national title. I think that the playoff picture should be announced before the conference title games, and that the conference title games should have zero bearing on the national title. Just let those conference title be for bragging rights in a trophy.
And the SEC conference took Ls to team outside the SEC conference!! Yall biases as hell. Yall looking for every excuse to put sec teams in. They not gone make no noise. I dont even think a SEC team will win the whole thing !
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If recency is important, then SMU’s only loss (by 3 points in early September, and without their QB) doesn’t matter.
I agree with you, but this makes it seem like their #1 QB didn’t play at all. If I remember right he played a majority of the game.
Conference championships need to be reworked. Tennessee and Ohio State are actually being rewarded this week by getting to practice/rest/heal players and not having to worry about a game this weekend. Additionally, are you really going to tell SMU that their 12-game body of work doesn't matter because they lost an extra game 99% of teams were not good enough to qualify for? How about making the SEC play a 9th conference game like everyone else and let the other conferences play one more G5 team and the conference team with the best record wins their respective title and the automatic bye?
Remember the conference winner gets a bye. That's the reason for the chip
The SEC and their fans are big babies
Not sure if there’s a right way to do it I agree with you saying it bs wrong to have teams get rewarded for doing worse.
The teams that did the best in 12 games Oregon Penn State Texas Georgia do it deserve to have to play each other/all on one side of tournament.
Oregon Penn State OSU are the 1/5/8/9 seeds while Georgia doesn’t have to play a top 5 team until finals. I know they can’t put the teams in place so half the top5 and bottom 5 are on each side. So how do you make it right.
I say get rid of conf bids and rank teams fairly unless someone is an alumni of notre dame Indiana Miami everyone knows those tea,s played bad sch and lost to bad teams. If they are even in they need to be 10/11/12 seeds.
It’s crap to have the top teams have to play the 3/4/5 best teams right after bye they should get those 10/11/12 seed teams.
@@Boom38119 - In my proposal, the conference team that finishes first in their conference over a 13-game season gets the bye. There is no reason to play the additional game.
As an illinois fan I'm just happy to be here tbh
The NFL should choose the Super Bowl teams by “brand”. The Cowboys vs. Steelers every year!!!
A win over a Top 12 Clemson team on the road - which feels like a pretty big piece of a resume, especially this time of year - moved South Carolina up... one spot.
A win over 5-6 Auburn at home moved Alabama up... two spots.
THE RIG IS IN!
Georgia Tech almost had a Georgia win so I don't think that people should weigh a Georgia win so high
They’ll put Miami in to avoid the conversation
Wrong
Hell gonna brake loose from ESPN and SEC chairman if Miami is ahead of bama!! It might happen but it’s a bigger backlash then putting bama ahead of Miami
DANGGGGGG! Tom is all over those Illinois haters
You can’t put lipstick on Boise St and have them beat Alabama or Georgia. Remember when yall shoved TCU into a natty against UGA? What was that final?
Nobody shoved TCU there
TCU won a semifinal to get there
Argument invalid
@@SomeChinkcan’t stand TCU. But you are 💯 correct.
@@SomeChinkactually they kind of did. TCU lost their conference championship game to a 4-loss Kansas State team who got destroyed by a 1/20th loaded Alabama team but highly motivated because KSt(GaySt) did the thing they do best and talk too much smack and got smacked for it. The argument could have been made that year Tulane (who beat USC mind you) or unfortunately had two SEC teams playing two BiG10 teams or any other team besides TCU get selected. Michigan underestimated them (TCU) and their arrogance bit them in the ass (pun intended given a few scores that should have happened but didn’t). The argument is not invalid. I wouldn’t have hired Sonny Dykes for starters. TCU not making a bowl game last season proved that was fluky the year before. This is truth. This year whomever the two teams are that play for a national championship will have earned it for sure legitimately or as close to legitimate as possible as opposed to the previous 150+ seasons of FBS history where debatable champ was warranted.
Yes. Tcu notre Oklahoma they all got pounded by playing the top 3 teams when it was 4 team.
It’s now 12 so the actual 3/4/5 best teams will be in. When it’s was 4 team only 2 of the actual topm4 teams got in because they had to play each other Alabama/georgia OSU/Penn State OSU/Mich doesn’t count Mich cheated las three yrs.
Thought is who ever didn’t win those games were 11-1/10-2 and were the 3/4/5 best teams but they always put the 12-0/11-1 weak conf sch teams in.
Florida state got pounded by Georgia 56-3? Alabama actually prob beat Mich.
overall with 12 team every actual top 5 team gets in no matter who ranked where and that’s what matters the most not what weak conf sch teams get in.
Only thing I can possibly see changing the 3 SEC teams order after this week is who wins between Texas and Georgia becoming a better win/loss for specific team. If Georgia wins Bama gets a nudge up, if Georgia loses Bamas win looks slightly less good.
Also, Miami having 0 wins vs teams in the field. Why not mention BYU who does. They aren’t also a 2 loss team with better SOS.
Thank you for the Illinois love
The committee said they will NOT punish a team already “in” if they lose their conference championship game. SMU is in.
Yeh because the committee is always consistent in what they say and then do. Lol
SMU is going to beat Clemson
yeah, if that was the case, it wouldn’t matter if Boise State wins their championship either. And no one is saying that they would be in the CFP if they lost, even though they’re rank 10.
Ummmm... they never said that. They some bs about it being an extra measuring point or something. They never said they wouldn't drop a team
I hope you’re right!
Who has Miami, SMU or Indiana beaten that is good?
Why not include BYU in that group who is also 2 loss team. To answer your question SMU at their place :)
I think after 12 games the CFP should lock it down and go with a 12 team playoff, the conference championship games should not factor in because not all college teams are playing and with only few teams playing and risking a loss it becomes unfair to the teams that deserve to be rewarded for making it and not punished when all other teams sit at home without no worries of playing one more week without a worry of another loss on their record.
Agree, 100%! Let the conference championships just be for bragging rights into trophy, but they should not affect the playoff structure whatsoever. Take the top 12 teams, and go with that!
Tell that to last year's UGA team
Yes they will punish SMU if they lose to a 3-loss Clemson. They will probably put SMU in still possibly as long as they don’t get blown out and lose like TCU did two years ago in the Big12 conference championship game. They will be seeded 10-12 though and Clemson will not get in just like Kansas State did not get in two years ago. What will happen is both MwC champ and the AAC champ could both get in still especially if it is 1-loss Boise State and 1-loss Army as conference champions. The Big12 champ is in and probably the 3rd or 4th seed. Miami may still get in as well and take Georgia’s slot if they lose SEC championship game against Texas and lose bad. So the 12 seed teams in 12-team playoff would look like the following.
1. Oregon
2. Texas
3. Arizona State
4. Boise State
5. Penn State
6. Notre Dame
7. Georgia or Miami
8. Ohio State
9. Tennessee
10. Army
11. Indiana
12. SMU
First round byes:
Oregon
Texas
Arizona State
Boise State
First round matchups:
SMU @ Penn St
Indiana @ Notre Dame
Army @ Georgia or Miami
Tennessee @ Ohio State
Boise vs Penn State
Clemson would get in tho cause they won acc and would prob be ranked ahead of asu or isu
I guess nobody pay attention that Ole Miss curb stomping South Carolina 27-3 at Columbia and beating Georgia who humiliated Clemson 34-3 that South Carolina barely won? Ole Miss is also beating South Carolina and Georgia far better than Alabama did.
Yeah but Ole Miss loss to 8 loss Kentucky. You cant get beyond that.
@@kentuckyfried9499 isn’t a 21 point loss to Oklahoma just as bad?
@@BrickBrickmanno. Kentucky is bad and you lost at home
Just face it bro, BAMA will be in. Head to head matters. It doesn't go to the common opponents when it's between 2 teams
@@justinsummerlin209isn't this whole conversation around three teams? You want the head to head to matter so much. But in the end bama probably gets it. They say it's a head to head thing when really it's about what logo is on the head.
Too much emphasis on head to head with SC. Value the wins and value the losses. Bama beating SC head to head by 2 at home should not give them the advantage when they got whooped by a bad team in November.
I guess we just shouldn’t play the games then
Both ole' miss and Bama have unranked losses. So their low point is lower than the Gamecocks. Plus Carolina beat the teams that beat Bama and Ole miss
Pulling straws man. You guys deserve it the most but none of you will be in when Clemson beats the brakes off SMU
@@Hoosiers12345actually… you might’ve wrong
Remind me who Carolina lost to again?
@@TallDwarfFromEreborOle Miss, LSU, Bama
Stack then12 games right next to each team. What stands out as a NO is Alabama getting beat 24-3 by a bad team. The other got beat as well to bad teams but not lopsided like that.
That 24-3 should lockout Alabama otherwise it’s a joke.
Michigan got a vote. WE ARE SO BACK
Losing to good teams doesn't make you a good team.
It does when the game was even
OSU PennState played even
Oregon OSU played even
Texas got beat 27-7 Georgia
Indiana got beat 31-7 OSU
See the diff
@@rodneyzaumetzer3626 Penn State is overrated, they have a good defense and an anemic offense. They didn't beat any good team and they didn't win impressively against weak teams. Ohio State is a good team, but not because they lost 2 games. It is how they won their 10 games that makes them good.
Boise has only 1 loss, and it's to the number 1 team, and they only lost by 3.
If the win over the sec champs then it should matter when a sec team beat the ACC champs
2 SEC teams beat Clempson
@@JustN0pe3which is why they are keeping Clemson ranked high even tho they aren’t that good to give SEC more of those “quality wins”
Cuse!🍊
Miami is done
Three loss teams??? Why not four loss teams? What a joke.
LSU won a NC with 2 losses but 3 losses no.
why not, this year no elite team.
Colorado would smoke Illinois.
Illinois needed OT to beat Purdue, the worst team in college football.
Oregon is all you should be talking about!! Get real.
Keep betting against the Dawgs
The question is who was in front of who last playoff rankings. 13. Bama, 14. Ole Miss, 15. South Carolina
Clemson is the biggest joke of this tire conversation. And for them to claim to be a conference equal to the SEC, and the number 18 ranked team in the nation is playing for their conference championship? Laughable.
I promise you the ACC wanted SMU vs Miami. But them’s the rules.
@ even if Clemson wins the ACC championship, they still do not deserve to be in the playoff picture for a national title. I think that the playoff picture should be announced before the conference title games, and that the conference title games should have zero bearing on the national title. Just let those conference title be for bragging rights in a trophy.
College football is a joke...
Nah it’s much better than NFL
And the SEC conference took Ls to team outside the SEC conference!! Yall biases as hell. Yall looking for every excuse to put sec teams in. They not gone make no noise. I dont even think a SEC team will win the whole thing !
All conferences took Ls outside their conferences.... not sure your point
@ my point is ! They make comments saying how good the SEC teams are and it clearly showed this they wasnt as good as previous years.
Illinois is a basketball school smh
Nobody cares about Illinois.
3 loss teams sit down be quiet 🤫. So no . Try winning your games
Dude, that's why they made a 12 team playoff and the Sec teams might have 3 losses but they play a way harder schedule.
Clempson?
Miami , Colorado, and Penn State all overrated. Biggest win among all 3 was Penn State over Illinois. Wow, LOL.
Penn State played 4th hardest sch of top 12 teams.
I think you mean notre dame they did not play a top 5 or top 10 team.