Well,the only thing I can is she wanted to be in that"fake"sport desperately if that was the case.Yes,things doesn't really work out but don't act like you didn't get what you wanted out of it because she did.She main evented,had championships and from what i'm hearing from her,she had herway pretty much.Doesn't happen with alot of superstars.So,the last word was like the sabillionth time we heard it before it was cool to say,so I guess that's what she was looking for.
I think about it in the same way that like you look at a stunt double in a movie what they're doing is choreographed but that doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt and that it's not real and it's not dangerous. It's scripted but not exactly fake how much like what the Miz is saying It's Entertainment first and foremost and if you can't get past that and honestly I kind of feel sorry for you you should be able to enjoy something stupid and mundane
But she isn't working for WWE. She isn't 'being a heel'. She didn't get catapulted to the top at all times like she expected and was a total mark for herself who didn't understand the wrestling business. She got legitimately upset at fan reactions and still is. She's the Goldberg of women in pro wrestling - just an absolute total mark for herself. But at least Greenberg knows what kayfabe is. She never did and still doesn't.
Ronda Rousey came to WWE and was thrust into the spotlight before she learned to be a wrestler, she was still a fighter and she didn't make the adjustment very quickly.
unlike most women, she brings instant credibility to the division. I thought she was great. I hope she comes back as a heal, assuming she get medically cleared.
Lol its hilarious to me how i used to not like this guy as a kid and now ive got nothing but respect for him especially hearing how hard he had it when he debuted
Miz is 1000% spot on. She even admitted that she was working people by reusing Hulk Hogan's infamous "jabonie marks" tweet/ She knew it would trigger fans and it worked to perfection.
@chriskay1449 I don't think you said mark enough. Also, you just called me mark as if it was my name by capitalizing it. My name isn't actually Mark. =) It is funny you think Ronda is a good actress in any way to pull off what you think she did, though.
@@a-cygnus You don't have to be an actor/actress to do what she did. She was literally saying the exact same spiel she was using on TV for the build to Wrestemania 35.
Okay hold on for a second some of these wrestlers in WWE actually went to New Japan pro wrestling and actually wrestled there for a good long time before coming to WWE look at Finn Balor, AJ Styles, Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Dragon Lee, Rey Mysterio, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn Shinsuke Nakamura, Drew McIntyre, Gunther and many others heck even some of AEW and TNA wrestlers also wrestled at or currently in New Japan pro wrestling if you watch their matches.
Funny Ronda using that word as a trigger, her whole mike tyson wanabe aura was ‘fake’ as soon as she went up against somebody who wasn’t a pushover for her grappling she got knocked the fk out. Then further embarrassed by Nunes.
She got knocked out because her trainer was an idiot who had her striking and trying to box instead of getting her opponent on the ground to grapple which was her strength. Try again.
@@nineteeneightynine432 No she wasn't. SHe had her strategy and went away from it the last two fights because her trainer is an idiot. The Correjia fight made hi believe Ronda could box.
@@nineteeneightynine432 he isn't trolling u can see in interviews her coach wanted her to go into the fight as a striker not go into it like she normally would by going for the takedown and submit u calling her a one trick pony is funny when conner McGregor is a one trick poney
Scripted or predetermined is a better way to put it. The punches and kicks they throw are fake and that’s pretty obvious but all the acrobatic shit and slams are as real as it gets and incredibly dangerous.
As Hollywood Hogan once said shes a "stupid little (wo)man who couldnt get the job done" I only seen one person completely ruin the biggest finish of the first womens main event at the biggest show of the year.
She’s been successful off her name alone she’s one of the worst wrestlers I ever seen in a ring you can tell she has no passion for it has no idea what she’s doing half the time especially in anyone but her own spots WWE gave her a massive push and she’s been doing it for years now obv she hasn’t cared to catch on and she’s only there for the check
Wtf Is Mike saying Rhonda sucks in a wwe ring she should’ve stayed in the ufc she most definitely didn’t pick up on it well are acting on the mic and in the ring is trash Shana bazler deserves to have more in the wwe then Rhonda could ever imagine
It is fake, but that's not a bad thing. Obviously, it's not easy, it hurts and it's demanding to do, but punches are fake, moves are fake, it is performance not a fight, wrestling isn't a sport, it's a spectacle, tv show. Even in videogames you can memorize moveset you create of your wrestler, even if you give him many moves. It's not this "Technical masterpiece workrate clinic" fans talk about these days. Sure, being athletic helps, but it's not must have.
@@salkokelecija9465 see this is a good take i’ve known wwe was fake ever since i started watching it but i still fell in love with it, literally if you go and look at real wrestling like in the olympics they aren’t throwing punches or doing these crazy looking “finishers” wwe may hurt yes but at the end of the day it is fake but so are action movies and a lot of tv shows are fake. instead of worrying about if wwe is real or fake i think ppl should figure out of they like watching
The only reason Ronda is critical of wrestling and wwe because she couldn't hack it. Now finally the wrestling fans are understanding why the UFC fans hated her.
Most if not all wrestlers at some point in their careers don't have the fans behind them and get booed. It's part of the business. She got upset because the fans were booing her and if I remember correctly she was a heel during that time and her fragile ego couldn't take it. She can do the work in the ring, she just can't handle being booed which is weird cause as long as your getting a reaction from the audience that's all that matters at the end of the day
@@dinkleku382I'm sorry but she's a horrible wrestler she's not good in the ring at all every time she'd wrestle I just go somewhere else and wait for the match to be done way too many botches each match you could damn near guarantee two to three botches each match
@@xxl_aydodamenace7605She also made it to WWE much faster. Normal wrestlers go to school, train and work indies to grt matches under their belt. She couldnt do that on account of her celebrity. Physically, she had the tools to be a good wrestler. She needed the ring work though and fhe only way to get that is by having matches. Problem is, ALL of her matches were televised, so she had zero room for error when any other wrestler would be allowed by the audience to have a botch and learn. Her biggest issue was her character. It easnt good. Again, needs mic work. But it jist didnt resonate with the crowd. And she resented them for it instead of learning from it and rolling with the punches. But, make no mistake, a segment of wrestling fans were NEVER going to let her learn on the fly because thayre insufferable and want any excuse to hate her (and other women wrestlers for that matter). I for one thought she got pushed too early, too fast by Vince. She was raw in the ring and it showed. She got a bad deal with the fans and she reacted poorly.
Everyone has known Spider-Man is fake from the start though. Wrestling was presented and taken as 100% real for half its existence. And the way fans view it these days is so weird. It’s like they’re not fans of the “soap opera”, they’re so critical of every little aspect and don’t accept what they’re seeing the way you would a movie
@redgreen3187 95+% of wresting fans understand is scripted entertainment. The punches and kicks are fake. The moves are choreography, just like acting in movies. The win-loss records are fake and pre-planned. The actual action is done in a way to be as safe for the opposition as possible, but it is real. As Paul Levesque about his quad literally tearing off the bone, that was not fake. Ask Mark Callaway about his broken orbital bone or any other serious injury he's had. Ask Steve Williams about his broken neck and how he was legitimately paralyzed for several moments. These are still professional athletes that deal with serious injuries from their sport.
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Ken Shamrock took to it the best.
It’s a show. It’s a great show. Miz 👏
Well,the only thing I can is she wanted to be in that"fake"sport desperately if that was the case.Yes,things doesn't really work out but don't act like you didn't get what you wanted out of it because she did.She main evented,had championships and from what i'm hearing from her,she had herway pretty much.Doesn't happen with alot of superstars.So,the last word was like the sabillionth time we heard it before it was cool to say,so I guess that's what she was looking for.
I think about it in the same way that like you look at a stunt double in a movie what they're doing is choreographed but that doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt and that it's not real and it's not dangerous. It's scripted but not exactly fake how much like what the Miz is saying It's Entertainment first and foremost and if you can't get past that and honestly I kind of feel sorry for you you should be able to enjoy something stupid and mundane
now THAT is a better way to look at it
She didn’t “pick it up”, it was given to her. And when the fans didn’t love and worship her she couldn’t handle it. She’s an insecure petulant child.
I've always liked, and preferred the use of, the term "staged" rather than "fake"
But she isn't working for WWE. She isn't 'being a heel'.
She didn't get catapulted to the top at all times like she expected and was a total mark for herself who didn't understand the wrestling business. She got legitimately upset at fan reactions and still is. She's the Goldberg of women in pro wrestling - just an absolute total mark for herself. But at least Greenberg knows what kayfabe is. She never did and still doesn't.
WWE is movie yes but God please protect those guys that try to entertain fans their job really hard RESPECT ❤❤
She needs fake bc she can't handle the real thing
Ronda Rousey came to WWE and was thrust into the spotlight before she learned to be a wrestler, she was still a fighter and she didn't make the adjustment very quickly.
Miz... you're great
unlike most women, she brings instant credibility to the division. I thought she was great. I hope she comes back as a heal, assuming she get medically cleared.
It sounds like he's not too concerned abot what Ronda said . IMO she was exposed as a fake and she couldn't handle it so she lashed out .
It's Scripted.
fake is a term u use for things that are meant to be real like "realty tv shows" which ironically most of em' are scripted...
I hope she stays away.
Lol its hilarious to me how i used to not like this guy as a kid and now ive got nothing but respect for him especially hearing how hard he had it when he debuted
Miz is 1000% spot on. She even admitted that she was working people by reusing Hulk Hogan's infamous "jabonie marks" tweet/ She knew it would trigger fans and it worked to perfection.
you don't get it att all miz WWE now is boring you reapet the same things over and over in the past it was better and look more real.
Growing uo is realizing that Miz was the good guy all along.
What should have been said:
"The thing is, Ronda is stupid. She couldn't take being booed by fans, so she lashes out like a child throwing a tantrum."
Wrong. Miz was 1000% right. She was being a heel and you marks took the bait. Nice job, Mark!
@chriskay1449 I don't think you said mark enough. Also, you just called me mark as if it was my name by capitalizing it. My name isn't actually Mark. =) It is funny you think Ronda is a good actress in any way to pull off what you think she did, though.
@@a-cygnus You don't have to be an actor/actress to do what she did. She was literally saying the exact same spiel she was using on TV for the build to Wrestemania 35.
Yeah but there's a huge difference between a heel and a bitch
Can’t call it wrestling because none of them could hang in Japan. Especially miz.
Okay hold on for a second some of these wrestlers in WWE actually went to New Japan pro wrestling and actually wrestled there for a good long time before coming to WWE look at Finn Balor, AJ Styles, Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, CM Punk, Cody Rhodes, Dragon Lee, Rey Mysterio, Kevin Owens, Sami Zayn Shinsuke Nakamura, Drew McIntyre, Gunther and many others heck even some of AEW and TNA wrestlers also wrestled at or currently in New Japan pro wrestling if you watch their matches.
Tell it Miz, it's my movie 🎬 of the week . Dammit it's fun . Nothing left to be said .
Miz is probably one of if not the best to speak on this subject.
When he retires he will be the best person for public relations imo
Funny Ronda using that word as a trigger, her whole mike tyson wanabe aura was ‘fake’ as soon as she went up against somebody who wasn’t a pushover for her grappling she got knocked the fk out. Then further embarrassed by Nunes.
She got knocked out because her trainer was an idiot who had her striking and trying to box instead of getting her opponent on the ground to grapple which was her strength. Try again.
@@chriskay1449
She was a one trick pony kid
@@nineteeneightynine432 No she wasn't. SHe had her strategy and went away from it the last two fights because her trainer is an idiot. The Correjia fight made hi believe Ronda could box.
@@chriskay1449
False, quit trolling kid
@@nineteeneightynine432 he isn't trolling u can see in interviews her coach wanted her to go into the fight as a striker not go into it like she normally would by going for the takedown and submit u calling her a one trick pony is funny when conner McGregor is a one trick poney
When someone says it fake I always say so are the movies you watch
Nobody watches wrestling to "be entertained".
Wrestling fans watch professional wrestling to see professional wrestling.
The MIZ is awesome
Logan is literally the biggest scammer on TH-cam and it’s a shame how he keeps getting away with it
But he loves WWE
Scripted or predetermined is a better way to put it. The punches and kicks they throw are fake and that’s pretty obvious but all the acrobatic shit and slams are as real as it gets and incredibly dangerous.
People dont seem to mind that movies are fake. I think if it like acrobatic soap operas.
Cry baby Rhonda isn’t coming back😂
Sure, it’s fake. Who cares? So is Real Housewhores of name a city. People watch for the entertainment, not because they think it’s real.
Where did yo hair go??
WWE = soap opera + contact sport. Love it.
Sometimes I say, "my soap opera is on" before watching WWE.
@@brandonamezquita4501 gotta watch your stories 👍🏻
@@sarahp936 👍
As Hollywood Hogan once said shes a "stupid little (wo)man who couldnt get the job done"
I only seen one person completely ruin the biggest finish of the first womens main event at the biggest show of the year.
She’s been successful off her name alone she’s one of the worst wrestlers I ever seen in a ring you can tell she has no passion for it has no idea what she’s doing half the time especially in anyone but her own spots WWE gave her a massive push and she’s been doing it for years now obv she hasn’t cared to catch on and she’s only there for the check
Wwe signs Holly Holm and sends her to take out rousey amd derrick lewis to take out travis browne
The older I get the more I like him 😂
blows my mind he's Mike from the MTV show back in the day same with Theo Von
I was thinking the same thing. He has always been there year in and year out, a true professional. Miz you are a superstar
The older he got, the more likeable too
Wtf Is Mike saying Rhonda sucks in a wwe ring she should’ve stayed in the ufc she most definitely didn’t pick up on it well are acting on the mic and in the ring is trash Shana bazler deserves to have more in the wwe then Rhonda could ever imagine
He's just saying that to not get Ronda's attention because she has a hair trigger these days and would most likely make some false allegations on him
He's not gonna come out and say she sucked. 😅
No reason to cause unnecessary beef. The entire internet knows Ronda sucks as a WWE superstar, Miz doesnt need to repeat it lol
predetermined, not fake
It is fake, but that's not a bad thing. Obviously, it's not easy, it hurts and it's demanding to do, but punches are fake, moves are fake, it is performance not a fight, wrestling isn't a sport, it's a spectacle, tv show. Even in videogames you can memorize moveset you create of your wrestler, even if you give him many moves. It's not this "Technical masterpiece workrate clinic" fans talk about these days. Sure, being athletic helps, but it's not must have.
@@salkokelecija9465 see this is a good take i’ve known wwe was fake ever since i started watching it but i still fell in love with it, literally if you go and look at real wrestling like in the olympics they aren’t throwing punches or doing these crazy looking “finishers” wwe may hurt yes but at the end of the day it is fake but so are action movies and a lot of tv shows are fake. instead of worrying about if wwe is real or fake i think ppl should figure out of they like watching
@@salkokelecija9465Its a contact sport
The specific moment she was talking about was the Becky getting arrested gimmick which was fake nothing real about it
Get kicked in the head usually messes up your thinking!
The only reason Ronda is critical of wrestling and wwe because she couldn't hack it. Now finally the wrestling fans are understanding why the UFC fans hated her.
Correct (plankton's voice)
Most if not all wrestlers at some point in their careers don't have the fans behind them and get booed. It's part of the business. She got upset because the fans were booing her and if I remember correctly she was a heel during that time and her fragile ego couldn't take it. She can do the work in the ring, she just can't handle being booed which is weird cause as long as your getting a reaction from the audience that's all that matters at the end of the day
@@dinkleku382I'm sorry but she's a horrible wrestler she's not good in the ring at all every time she'd wrestle I just go somewhere else and wait for the match to be done way too many botches each match you could damn near guarantee two to three botches each match
she wasn't a fan as a kid too
@@xxl_aydodamenace7605She also made it to WWE much faster. Normal wrestlers go to school, train and work indies to grt matches under their belt. She couldnt do that on account of her celebrity.
Physically, she had the tools to be a good wrestler. She needed the ring work though and fhe only way to get that is by having matches. Problem is, ALL of her matches were televised, so she had zero room for error when any other wrestler would be allowed by the audience to have a botch and learn.
Her biggest issue was her character. It easnt good. Again, needs mic work. But it jist didnt resonate with the crowd. And she resented them for it instead of learning from it and rolling with the punches.
But, make no mistake, a segment of wrestling fans were NEVER going to let her learn on the fly because thayre insufferable and want any excuse to hate her (and other women wrestlers for that matter).
I for one thought she got pushed too early, too fast by Vince. She was raw in the ring and it showed. She got a bad deal with the fans and she reacted poorly.
Spiderman is fake. Everything in movies is fake, choreographed action.
Everyone has known Spider-Man is fake from the start though. Wrestling was presented and taken as 100% real for half its existence. And the way fans view it these days is so weird. It’s like they’re not fans of the “soap opera”, they’re so critical of every little aspect and don’t accept what they’re seeing the way you would a movie
@redgreen3187 95+% of wresting fans understand is scripted entertainment. The punches and kicks are fake. The moves are choreography, just like acting in movies. The win-loss records are fake and pre-planned. The actual action is done in a way to be as safe for the opposition as possible, but it is real. As Paul Levesque about his quad literally tearing off the bone, that was not fake. Ask Mark Callaway about his broken orbital bone or any other serious injury he's had. Ask Steve Williams about his broken neck and how he was legitimately paralyzed for several moments. These are still professional athletes that deal with serious injuries from their sport.
Yes