This is amazing . I don't really understand what I'm seeing but I know I like . This is being on a 3rd grade math level and jumping to calculus. Thats how I feel
This is great!so good to see someone who is as good as Danni get a lesson. I’ve always thought of Holdsworth lines and music as being more modal and Key centre based but with weird chords being generated by weird scales. Thing I get from his playing also is that is ear is so good weaving between these crazy sounds. Rhythmically he was so good too and his tone and production of his records are top drawer. Biggest regret of my 39 years is that I never saw him live.
Also, seeing the student/ teacher dynamic first hand from a player I strive towards is an amazing full circle perspective. Never forget, its a mountain to learn, not a hole! There are always things you dont know. The best you can do is speak with what you do know as honestly as you can :) (im thinking speaking musically)
Bought the book and the 1st packet, thanks guys. I love this style of viewing music. I spent a long time drilling in strong/ weakbeat bebop vocab and have finally come to terms with the fact that it doesnt interest me. This material is way more on par to how i viewed music before music school. It was necessary to learn the popular and standardized way. But im happy to be shown this direction again.
I'm letting the video play through, but getting less than 1/2 of what they're saying, it's mostly over my head, but I'm fascinated anyway. I'll go back and pause it where necessary to look up the many unclear moments to at least get a better understanding of this advanced theory being talked about here. I'd even like to eventually spend the bucks for Stine's work on this, but am currently working on the Michael Brecker's "Practice Notebook", which should only take me a few lifetimes to properly work all the way through. So, maybe after that. (btw, I think it kind of sucks that those two improv giants never did anything together, would have been pretty sweet)
Thanks bro! We will be uploading a lot more in the coming days and weeks. We are also providing supplemental materials in the description which will make the learning process more manageable
eh. i had gary husband tell me that i sounded too much like allan. he was very nice about it. jamie glaser told me i did allan better than allan did, it was NOT a complement. it's a problem i've dealt with... that being said, if ya wanna have an artist be an influence on your playing, ya gotta do the legwork and study, like brent has done, with his book, and that makes it easier for all of us to incorporate allan's influence, but i would, post haste, suggest a balanced music diet. cheers!
Its too late once you have learned traditional jazz rules. You wont be able to undo that. I feel like no matter how you much you try to show Dani, he just wont ever get the feel for how Allan played or thought. When Brett plays a line, I can recite it accurately by memory right away. Dani could not. I already know these shapes by instinct from jamming along w Allan for years. Dani seems like he has never done these shapes before. Allan has always sounded normal to me. RIP Allan.
It's understandable why guitarists want to play like him, but remember - Holdsworth said many times, that musicians should NOT imitate other musicians, but should create their music from their own life experiences, and express it in their own personal voice. He was right, the proof of that, is that no one cares about any imitations. . . . . . . . . . .
It's making music using these scales which is the most interesting thing about it ,I personally will approach it in my own way, just like I approached common scales in my own way,just because you start using scales Holdsworth was using doesn't mean you have to use Allan's technique ,the two didn't come hand in hand.
@@earache8326 Of course, all of the raw materials are rightly available to all, and art has NO RULES. In ANY way that makes you happy, by ALL means, play on . . . . . . .
This is what TH-cam was meant to be
That’s literally the best comment we ever got
This is amazing . I don't really understand what I'm seeing but I know I like . This is being on a 3rd grade math level and jumping to calculus. Thats how I feel
Check out the supplemental materials in the description! It will make things a bit easier.
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This is great!so good to see someone who is as good as Danni get a lesson.
I’ve always thought of Holdsworth lines and music as being more modal and Key centre based but with weird chords being generated by weird scales.
Thing I get from his playing also is that is ear is so good weaving between these crazy sounds. Rhythmically he was so good too and his tone and production of his records are top drawer.
Biggest regret of my 39 years is that I never saw him live.
Also, seeing the student/ teacher dynamic first hand from a player I strive towards is an amazing full circle perspective. Never forget, its a mountain to learn, not a hole! There are always things you dont know. The best you can do is speak with what you do know as honestly as you can :) (im thinking speaking musically)
Bought the book and the 1st packet, thanks guys. I love this style of viewing music. I spent a long time drilling in strong/ weakbeat bebop vocab and have finally come to terms with the fact that it doesnt interest me. This material is way more on par to how i viewed music before music school. It was necessary to learn the popular and standardized way. But im happy to be shown this direction again.
Can we see something from his 1975-1979 period. Tony Williams to One Of A Kind. It was a different Holdsworth.
Lovely discussion, guys! Good luck with the learning Dani and Nick! Best regards, Daniel 🤙🏻
Thanks bro! We will post practice tools this week and another full lesson next week. Check out Brett’s book
This was FANTASTIC! Looking forward to watching the series develop and joining in the learning journey.
Welcome aboard! Check out the pdf pack in the description as well as Brett’s book
Absolutely love this video!
So glad!
Goodrick plus Holdsworth plus Bergonzi and say Brecker is everything.
Recently emerging from a decades long hiatus, I just hit the jackpot finding your channel!
Best thing on youtube. This is next level guys!
Sage Stine🧙♂ & Crystalline Rabin💠♾
Yup. Seeing the while lowest to highest sounds really cool and hard. 😮
Just bought the pdf for this episode. It says the m3 half step can be played off R, 3rd, 4th, 6th & 7th, shouldnt it be b6th?
This go way above my head but I still love it!
I'm letting the video play through, but getting less than 1/2 of what they're saying, it's mostly over my head, but I'm fascinated anyway. I'll go back and pause it where necessary to look up the many unclear moments to at least get a better understanding of this advanced theory being talked about here. I'd even like to eventually spend the bucks for Stine's work on this, but am currently working on the Michael Brecker's "Practice Notebook", which should only take me a few lifetimes to properly work all the way through. So, maybe after that. (btw, I think it kind of sucks that those two improv giants never did anything together, would have been pretty sweet)
the F?? two of my favorites in one video!!!!
Very very interesting discussion.
Glad you liked it! Check out the links in the description. The pdfs Brett made help A LOT!
21:10 mode 3 Messiean
is kind of like combining mixo and Dorian, also a pattern you may hear in van halens playing.
Magnificent. Wish the echo on the guitar was down... just a tad.
Absolutely amazing! I got to get the book.
Great stuff! Not much like this out there that I’ve found
Glad you enjoyed it! Be sure to check out the supplemental materials in the description
Thank you guys!!!
I'd be asleep if I ingested weed. I'm needing a B12 drip after 38 minutes in the mystery.
Do I see a blond gb10 & ah10 in the background?
I have them
Phone book from hell!! So true at 4:14 regarding the palette of scales, myself included.
Allan did address this directly and how he arrived at it mathematically.
Wow ! lovin' this episode !
Thanks bro! We will be uploading a lot more in the coming days and weeks. We are also providing supplemental materials in the description which will make the learning process more manageable
Thank you for this- I'm eight minutes in an it's a mother lode of information!
You're very welcome! Please be sure to download the diploma Tal materials in the description
This is really interesting!
Pitch Set Theory!! Yes!!!!
Allan Holdsworth - Eye of The Tiger 🎶🎵
Thisbis GOLD
for those who don't know Bret is also an accomplished jazz saxophonist
Keen to get the book.
Just wondering if it’s somewhat progressive? One concept leads to the next etc…
Yup, after the nine note scales there’s a chapter about how to use hormone blockers leading into a Marxist manifesto. A must buy for progressives.
@@marbinmusicoh shit hahahaha
Holly hip joint, Batman!
*Hoily
@@mandrewcurry9416*holey
You’re a good dude.
I’ll be a Holdsworth clone?
That is a high class problem I’m prepared to deal with.
Haha yup, me too!
eh. i had gary husband tell me that i sounded too much like allan. he was very nice about it. jamie glaser told me i did allan better than allan did, it was NOT a complement. it's a problem i've dealt with... that being said, if ya wanna have an artist be an influence on your playing, ya gotta do the legwork and study, like brent has done, with his book, and that makes it easier for all of us to incorporate allan's influence, but i would, post haste, suggest a balanced music diet. cheers!
@@jimmythebold589 So true, it's better to be a genuine Jimmy, than an artificial Allan. . . . . .
In the ocean of music (and Holdsworth)... the further you go... the deeper it gets...
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funny after that 1st couple of tough riiffs he's like, were just getting started lol
Dennis Sandole also taught Billy Bean !
I just have to accept that I am in grade school next to these cats! Or kindergarten maybe
I can.count from 1 to 12 notes that all i know about music
35:00 36:41 11:44
Like the giraffe stretching his neck. Yeah. We are like the guitarists that want to stretch our fingers and minds to Holdsworth.
Major 3rd Guitar Nerd
- rhymes
My head hurts..... in a good way! ;-).
Noice!!
"What the fuck was that" pretty much sumarises everything I've heard from Allan since I first listened to him in the 80s.
Fantastic video :)
C'mon, you can't really do Coltrane (and thus Holdsworth) without Dennis Sandole.
Did you actually meet him?
Oh yea, toured in the same van for a month opening for him
🤣🤣🤣🤣. Next week i will make videos and writing a book explaning how to play like Maradona. Hahahaha!!! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️.
Its too late once you have learned traditional jazz rules. You wont be able to undo that. I feel like no matter how you much you try to show Dani, he just wont ever get the feel for how Allan played or thought. When Brett plays a line, I can recite it accurately by memory right away. Dani could not. I already know these shapes by instinct from jamming along w Allan for years. Dani seems like he has never done these shapes before. Allan has always sounded normal to me. RIP Allan.
How to be not Holdsworth is much more challenging
It's understandable why guitarists want to play like him, but remember - Holdsworth said many times, that musicians should NOT imitate other musicians, but should create their music from their own life experiences, and express it in their own personal voice. He was right, the proof of that, is that no one cares about any imitations. . . . . . . . . . .
Nah! We are are building a clone army like in star wars. join us
@@marbinmusic No thanks, I've heard you play, imagine my catharsis. . . . . . .
It's making music using these scales which is the most interesting thing about it ,I personally will approach it in my own way, just like I approached common scales in my own way,just because you start using scales Holdsworth was using doesn't mean you have to use Allan's technique ,the two didn't come hand in hand.
@@earache8326 Of course, all of the raw materials are rightly available to all, and art has NO RULES. In ANY way that makes you happy, by ALL means, play on . . . . . . .