....without ever looking iike he would lose, and always as the away B side fighter. If he was British or American he would already be cemented as number 1
@arthurarsekey6634 the fact is people like Jordan are grifters. He's trying to make as much money as possible from talking about a sport he's clueless on. He's not going to make money from Usyk. He's nit going to get Usyk team on his grubby echo chamber show. So he'll downplay Usyk whilst pretending Doubois is a legend 😂
Yeah but that only proves he's the great of this era ,do you not understand that? clues in the context " All time great...it literally doesn't matter who he beats in his era cause the past era's were a lot tougher, bigger punches, higher level, you take the top 10 greatest hw of all time, I don't think usyk dominates them, he's shone bright in a weaker era so total respect what he's done at cruiser and hw but judge him solely as a hw he's not an all time great
Yeah fury wasnt in the conversation for all time great pre usyk and even if he beat usyk twice he wouldnt be an all time great ... Even if he had beat Aj , zhang, bakole , parker, dubois these last few years and finally beat usyk. He still wouldnt be an all time great but just best of this era
Oliver Spencer a total joker! Fury is number 2? This idiot just says what serves him in the moment, very convenient. Oliver Spencer either gets an education or gets out of this show!!!
Jokers. So Fury was on the way to greatest of all time with 2 names on his win column but Usyk claims undisputed in the 2 heaviest weight classes and is just a modern day great? Nice.
Basically until Tyson fury lost to Usyk, Jordan thought this was the greatest era of Heavyweight Boxing & Fury was the greatest of all time. Now that Usyk has beaten Fury, this era isn’t all that great . This man is an absolute clown.
@agnikaineverdies7646 err cos Usyk also beat AJ and Doubois. Unlike fury beating Peneta, seffri, shwartz, walin, Ngannou. Usyk fought the top boxer's whilst fury ran 🏃♂️ away from them. Just like the klitschko rematch
@@agnikaineverdies7646 ridiculous logic.. usyk clearly number 1 but fury isn't clearly number 2 cause he's not fought the majority of the top 10 and that's totally on him
@@TimothyRipkey my opinion but dubois beats fury, Zhang, AJ ( if he lands on fury he's in trouble ) bakole, itauma, ... Fury has avoided dangerous fights since the begining of his career bar wilder and after being away for 3 years had nothing to really lose.. Any big puncher beats fury now and I would of had all those beating the fury of 5 years ago at possibly his peak...
I'm not an Uysk Fanboy but saying he's not an all time great after being the first 4 belt cruiserweight and 4 belt Heavyweight champion, is out of their minds, biased and hanging on to the past like there is no better
Non regulation beard , throwing backfists, using elbows , shorts pulled upto his bread. Even had his flappy gloves trick and Still got outlanded in 10/12 rounds 😂
Usyk would give all the greats a serious problem no doubt hes right up there. Ali got dropped by skinny heavyweight Henry Cooper & lost 5 fights in total. Lennox lost against Oliver McCall and Rahman and was fortunate against Vitali Klitschko - retired and didn't take that rematch 🤔 And Usyk wouldn't give them problems? Dont talk bs
Rose tinted glassses. Bare in mind that Usyk has never even been dropped or troubled other than a blatant low blow. He's swept all his contemporaries away with relative ease. Who beats him? Lewis was obviously great but he had his flawa. Mike Tyson the same, he knocked over some weak assed competition. Even Ali lost and looked vulnerable. Usyk is at least 50/50 with any of them.
Fury has been ducking AJ for years, ever since AJ beat him up in sparring. He chose to fight basketball players, MMA fighters and middleweights instead.
The failed carphone warehouse owner at it again. Usyk undisputed two weight champion and hes nothing special? Fury beat an old klitschko on PEDs then spent 10 years ducking elite boxer's fighting Peneta, seffri, shwartz, walin, chrisora, Ngannou and hes amazing? 😂
These pair haven't a clue simon disregarding parker 😅 parker will stop ddd late mark my words ddd get tired if he is not getting anywhere in fights and quits easy
People forget fury is a big money fight . He beats Aj then he’s straight back at the main table for a world title fight maybe against Dubois if he wins. Boxing is a funny old game just when you think you got the answer there’s a spanner in the works
Spencer Oliver's a joke, never had an original opinion in his life. GK's too old to be carrying all that weight, if he's serious about AJ, he needs to get some lard off!!! Fury couldn't even beat the MMA fighter, AJ ironed him out!!!
Olympic gold medalist, Undisputed in 2 weight divisions and beating the best Heavyweights who are half a foot taller and out weigh him by several stone... He's one of the P4P top 30 of all time
Fury is 36, he has a couple years left, will be great to see the AJ fight and then it would be even more interesting to see how he fares against the Zhangs, the Parkers, the Duboises and the Bakoles of the world.
If Fury had got the nod in those two close Usyk fights we would be talking about Fury being a all time great and being able to beat some of the all time greats. Just because Usyk is small and not a knockout artist. He'd have been a nightmare for anyone
If Fury would have beat Usyk, everyone on this channel and in the comments would have put him in the Top 5 all time. A lot of you basically said that before the first Usyk fight. Just say you dont like him because hes not 1: British 2: American. Just say it, at least that way you're being honest.
Yes lets get this settled: We didn't see the 'two best heavyweights' in the world to begin with and Tyson Fury is absolutely NOT the '2nd best heavyweight in the world'. End that right now.
Jordan knows the same about boxing as he does about running a football club sweet fa usyk is an all time great in any era no doubt about it the British media bias still is a joke
Usyk is best at cruiserweight and the fact there comparing him to the best heavyweights of all time shows that usyk is among the all time greats the fact he's body is built for cruiserweight but he can hang with the best at heavyweight even beat some in my opinion
Is Uysk an all tune great? “He’s not a all time great” - following sentence: “we was looking at fury as, an all time great at one point” these people are mentally unstable 😂
Barry from Cornwall I suffer with mental health for a long time sourcing Fury if you need somebody to talk to please come to me I know everything what goes on talk to me without the greatest friends and you are the greatest boxer on the planet
Anthony Joshua the biggest name in boxing still? 😂Nope he ain't that guy...him and Fury are past their prime. That fight should have happened 10 years ago
Sorry... I disagree with Simon Jordan. I think Usyk would have beaten Muhammada Ali, Spinks, Foreman etc. in that era. Usyk would NOT beat Mike Tyson at his prime and I don't believe he would defeat Lennox Lewis at his prime but yes, I believe, he would believe both Klitchkos and near every other heavyweight from any other era. Usyk IS one of the best of all time in my opinion...
that's a good one isn't it? One guy cleans up two divisions and becomes undisputed champ multiple times - "naaah he is not among the GOATs". Other guy fights maybe two fights of significance - "hmm yeah almost". Sensational what a UK passport does for your carreer....
Love how Simon lost 100m in football now thinks he’s an elite boxing journalist 🙄 settle down Simon most casual fans know more about boxing than u do 🤷
Why would Fury or AJ retire when they are both still top 5 heavyweights 🤔 Let the best keep fighting each other until THEY decide they've had enough🤷🏼♂️
This is/was one of my favourite places to go for boxing insight but its starting to feel very agenda driven. Who cares what i think i suppose im just one listener but the chat has gone from absoltue honest opinion to things i know they will say based on previous comments. Duke is and alway will be class but spence is always biased amd obviously so, and simon is becoming so predictable. Say what you think guys not what you think you should say
Funny thing is if fury beat usyk simon and his side kick would have fury the best ever heavyweight in from every generation era but now usyk won its a bad generation of heavyweight era😅😅
Barry from Cornwall people out there at the moment I just at their to earth and they want to do this and they wanted to do that because I can't really grasp that you are the greatest boxer and the plants just don't worry about it
Saying that because it helps your channel for him to stay in the game You’re kidding me, he’s garbage he’s only got to the top for fighting garbage twice🙈🙈 Avoiding AJ, it may happen now for some reason ., it tells you one thing, the state of heavyweight division for him to be at the top for so long ., not one of those would’ve been there if it was the 90s
They're talking shite! I've watched boxing for 70 years and Usyk is up there for sure. They dismiss his chances against Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis etc. To my mind he beats Frazier easily, gases and beats Foreman, He'd outscore Holmes He's 50/50 with Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis. Joshua punches as hard as any of those mentioned and he couldn't drop him and no one else has legally. He's not small compared to any of those past champions and he handled and beat the two biggest around today. Respect the man because he's up their with the best.
Barry from Cornwall Tyson all they do is try to all the families it's got to mess your family up the charger try and message is not p or stay together please just don't let them lucky if they're all w****** don't worry about Tyson you've got a massive family and a great load of fans that love you please Dyson don't go get yourself
Just old gits that can't comprehend that they is an ounce of possibility of a current boxer being better than a boxer in their day. I'm 40, and I don't live in the past like these old timers
Been loving your coverage and build up to big fight. However, Duke does come across as very negative on Fury. I had the first fight as a draw and second as one round win for Usyk. Natural fights now seems the losers vs losers & winners vs winners ie Fury vs AJ and Usyk vs Daniel if he comes through against Parker which isn't a sure thing. I would of put him with Del boy or Joy Joyce as first defence. Just my opinion, loving the channel. Dom👍
“he’s not an all time great”???? who does he have to beat for that then. guys wiped out two weight divisions 😂
....without ever looking iike he would lose, and always as the away B side fighter. If he was British or American he would already be cemented as number 1
@arthurarsekey6634 the fact is people like Jordan are grifters. He's trying to make as much money as possible from talking about a sport he's clueless on. He's not going to make money from Usyk. He's nit going to get Usyk team on his grubby echo chamber show. So he'll downplay Usyk whilst pretending Doubois is a legend 😂
Yeah but that only proves he's the great of this era ,do you not understand that? clues in the context " All time great...it literally doesn't matter who he beats in his era cause the past era's were a lot tougher, bigger punches, higher level, you take the top 10 greatest hw of all time, I don't think usyk dominates them, he's shone bright in a weaker era so total respect what he's done at cruiser and hw but judge him solely as a hw he's not an all time great
@TheDreamer1980 would make sense IF simple Simon hadn't spent 5 years saying fury was an all time great...
@@billdoor3140 Simon Jordan has nothing to do with what you said to be honest... He's irrelevant anyway.. Knows very little about boxing
Simon’s logic .. Fury could have been a greatest of all time but when usyk beats him comfortably twice Usyk is just a great of a generation 🤣 what a 🤡
Yeah fury wasnt in the conversation for all time great pre usyk and even if he beat usyk twice he wouldnt be an all time great ... Even if he had beat Aj , zhang, bakole , parker, dubois these last few years and finally beat usyk. He still wouldnt be an all time great but just best of this era
So true
Oliver Spencer a total joker! Fury is number 2? This idiot just says what serves him in the moment, very convenient. Oliver Spencer either gets an education or gets out of this show!!!
Simon Jordan trying to talk boxing is comedy gold. Man has absolutely no idea
Jokers. So Fury was on the way to greatest of all time with 2 names on his win column but Usyk claims undisputed in the 2 heaviest weight classes and is just a modern day great? Nice.
exactly
Facts
Basically until Tyson fury lost to Usyk, Jordan thought this was the greatest era of Heavyweight Boxing & Fury was the greatest of all time. Now that Usyk has beaten Fury, this era isn’t all that great .
This man is an absolute clown.
Clearly number two without fighting anybody. Fury is the one who get the benefit of the doubt without nothing to proofe
If Fury is not number 2, then how can we call Usyk the number one heavyweight just because he beat Fury
@agnikaineverdies7646 err cos Usyk also beat AJ and Doubois. Unlike fury beating Peneta, seffri, shwartz, walin, Ngannou. Usyk fought the top boxer's whilst fury ran 🏃♂️ away from them. Just like the klitschko rematch
@@agnikaineverdies7646 ridiculous logic.. usyk clearly number 1 but fury isn't clearly number 2 cause he's not fought the majority of the top 10 and that's totally on him
@TheDreamer1980 who in the top 10 beats Fury?
@@TimothyRipkey my opinion but dubois beats fury, Zhang, AJ ( if he lands on fury he's in trouble ) bakole, itauma, ... Fury has avoided dangerous fights since the begining of his career bar wilder and after being away for 3 years had nothing to really lose.. Any big puncher beats fury now and I would of had all those beating the fury of 5 years ago at possibly his peak...
Fury’s a good fighter but Uysk is levels above everyone
I'm not an Uysk Fanboy but saying he's not an all time great after being the first 4 belt cruiserweight and 4 belt Heavyweight champion, is out of their minds, biased and hanging on to the past like there is no better
So wait… Anthony Joshua should retire but Tyson Fury shouldn’t… HMMMMM!
what can be the agenda?
The manner of Joshua’s loss was totally different so not really
Joshua will knock out Fury all day long
@@Liamw565 Joshua will K.O your Boy believe me
@@BISH12-w2p😂😂😂😂
Fury should wear proper shorts, the cheating dosser.
Usyks shorts were up to his nipples in the dubois fight.
Non regulation beard , throwing backfists, using elbows , shorts pulled upto his bread. Even had his flappy gloves trick and Still got outlanded in 10/12 rounds 😂
@@billdoor3140what kind of bread was he eating?
He had to protect those armpits
Usyk would give all the greats a serious problem no doubt hes right up there.
Ali got dropped by skinny heavyweight Henry Cooper & lost 5 fights in total.
Lennox lost against Oliver McCall and Rahman and was fortunate against Vitali Klitschko - retired and didn't take that rematch 🤔
And Usyk wouldn't give them problems?
Dont talk bs
Hold up, Usyk is capable of beating Tyson Lewis and Holyfield lol jeez your just refusing to giving the man credit
He's not . He wouldn't beart those
@ based on what? Assumption?
Rose tinted glassses. Bare in mind that Usyk has never even been dropped or troubled other than a blatant low blow. He's swept all his contemporaries away with relative ease. Who beats him? Lewis was obviously great but he had his flawa. Mike Tyson the same, he knocked over some weak assed competition. Even Ali lost and looked vulnerable. Usyk is at least 50/50 with any of them.
Jordan knows he can't make any money off Usyk mate. His team don't even know who Jordan is. He'll get nothing from them.
I’d make a fight between Usyk and Father Time 50/50 to be honest
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Dubois quit againest Usyk he got schooled every round, these numptys forget that 🤦🏼♂️
That’s true but it will always be overshadowed by that dodgy low blow call by the ref
Yes, he got 'schooled' by one of the greatest fighters in the world 4 fights ago.
Fury hasn’t had a real winning fight since Chisora 😅
Fury has been ducking AJ for years, ever since AJ beat him up in sparring.
He chose to fight basketball players, MMA fighters and middleweights instead.
Don't get me wrong, Usyk is exceptional.
Im unsubscribing from this biased Bullshit, Jordan and Oliver are box tickers Juke it the only realist one on the panel, the rest are Fury fan boys ….
I'm sick of these fury fan boys furytalksport it should be called usyk beat fury aj ddd over 5 fights yet Simon keeps saying fury is all time great 😅😅
The failed carphone warehouse owner at it again. Usyk undisputed two weight champion and hes nothing special? Fury beat an old klitschko on PEDs then spent 10 years ducking elite boxer's fighting Peneta, seffri, shwartz, walin, chrisora, Ngannou and hes amazing? 😂
This era is weak but Usyk is exceptional. If fury is number 2, wanna see him fight someone else in the top 5 not AJ cos it AJ he just got battered
These pair haven't a clue simon disregarding parker 😅 parker will stop ddd late mark my words ddd get tired if he is not getting anywhere in fights and quits easy
People forget fury is a big money fight . He beats Aj then he’s straight back at the main table for a world title fight maybe against Dubois if he wins. Boxing is a funny old game just when you think you got the answer there’s a spanner in the works
Spencer Oliver's a joke, never had an original opinion in his life. GK's too old to be carrying all that weight, if he's serious about AJ, he needs to get some lard off!!! Fury couldn't even beat the MMA fighter, AJ ironed him out!!!
Fury vs Dubois next ?
That would be interesting id like to see it
Usyk is 38 in Jan not 37 Gareth
The Brits will never give Usyk his flowers and it's understandable.
Nit all brits mate. It's only our media who are desperately trying to grift money off casuals like Simon Jordan
Olympic gold medalist, Undisputed in 2 weight divisions and beating the best Heavyweights who are half a foot taller and out weigh him by several stone... He's one of the P4P top 30 of all time
Fury should retire and take up stand up and do Les Dawson gags
Fury is 36, he has a couple years left, will be great to see the AJ fight and then it would be even more interesting to see how he fares against the Zhangs, the Parkers, the Duboises and the Bakoles of the world.
If Fury had got the nod in those two close Usyk fights we would be talking about Fury being a all time great and being able to beat some of the all time greats. Just because Usyk is small and not a knockout artist. He'd have been a nightmare for anyone
If Fury would have beat Usyk, everyone on this channel and in the comments would have put him in the Top 5 all time. A lot of you basically said that before the first Usyk fight. Just say you dont like him because hes not 1: British 2: American. Just say it, at least that way you're being honest.
Yes lets get this settled: We didn't see the 'two best heavyweights' in the world to begin with and Tyson Fury is absolutely NOT the '2nd best heavyweight in the world'. End that right now.
No matter what I actually think, as soon as I heard Simon say DDD knocks out Parker I’m putting money on Parker
USYk don't beat Lennox Lewis, no way!
Funny how casually Simon says Dubois will knock out Joseph Parker.
Duke mckenzie is great to listen to, he’s always spot on
It's a shame he can't get a word in edgeways for the other 2
Jordan knows the same about boxing as he does about running a football club sweet fa usyk is an all time great in any era no doubt about it the British media bias still is a joke
That's debatable whether he's no.2 or not, Spencer.
Usyk beat the man that beat the man...one of the greatest HWs
Joseph Parker "Dave Allens" Daniel Dubois, He will school him like Dave did to Johnny Fisher
Correct…. TF should not retire…. Get him to fight Zhang, Parker, Hygovic …….. that would seriously finish years of BS…..
Simon Jordan, Spencer Oliver, Gareth A Davies, and Spencer Fearon should retire!
Usyk is best at cruiserweight and the fact there comparing him to the best heavyweights of all time shows that usyk is among the all time greats the fact he's body is built for cruiserweight but he can hang with the best at heavyweight even beat some in my opinion
Is Uysk an all tune great? “He’s not a all time great” - following sentence: “we was looking at fury as, an all time great at one point” these people are mentally unstable 😂
But when AJ lost both times to the same opponent, they said he should retire he's made his money 😂 wonder why
1:15 Note this from Simon. Parker loses to Dubois. Let’s see.
Barry from Cornwall I suffer with mental health for a long time sourcing Fury if you need somebody to talk to please come to me I know everything what goes on talk to me without the greatest friends and you are the greatest boxer on the planet
Anthony Joshua the biggest name in boxing still? 😂Nope he ain't that guy...him and Fury are past their prime. That fight should have happened 10 years ago
Sorry... I disagree with Simon Jordan. I think Usyk would have beaten Muhammada Ali, Spinks, Foreman etc. in that era. Usyk would NOT beat Mike Tyson at his prime and I don't believe he would defeat Lennox Lewis at his prime but yes, I believe, he would believe both Klitchkos and near every other heavyweight from any other era. Usyk IS one of the best of all time in my opinion...
My man wears his shorts up to his chest and didn’t shave 😂
Fury should just admit the better man beat him dust himself down and go again.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 @ 7.25!!!
that's a good one isn't it? One guy cleans up two divisions and becomes undisputed champ multiple times - "naaah he is not among the GOATs". Other guy fights maybe two fights of significance - "hmm yeah almost". Sensational what a UK passport does for your carreer....
Why can’t Bakole get a shot he beats Dubois imo
Love how Simon lost 100m in football now thinks he’s an elite boxing journalist 🙄 settle down Simon most casual fans know more about boxing than u do 🤷
joshua isnt good enough for tyson. that boat has sailed
Dubois beat aj but aj was awful, aj basically beat himself. Dubois is being overrated. We have to see before we consider him the best
I genuinely think AJ beats Dubois in a rematch.
Maybe but AJ punch resistance is gone. So I think dubois catches him again
Fury Joshua is a domestic fight for bragging rights, neither have belts and won't win them back.🥊
Why would Fury or AJ retire when they are both still top 5 heavyweights 🤔 Let the best keep fighting each other until THEY decide they've had enough🤷🏼♂️
This is/was one of my favourite places to go for boxing insight but its starting to feel very agenda driven.
Who cares what i think i suppose im just one listener but the chat has gone from absoltue honest opinion to things i know they will say based on previous comments.
Duke is and alway will be class but spence is always biased amd obviously so, and simon is becoming so predictable.
Say what you think guys not what you think you should say
Simon loved Fury last week - now no 😀😀😀
Funny thing is if fury beat usyk simon and his side kick would have fury the best ever heavyweight in from every generation era but now usyk won its a bad generation of heavyweight era😅😅
How comes everyone keeps forgetting dubios quit twice every time it gets tough he quits your never be the best when you got quit in you 🥵🥵
Usyk fury 3
Fury beats dubois as lets be honest AJ was very poor and fought like novice 😊
he,is not no,2.
Barry from Cornwall people out there at the moment I just at their to earth and they want to do this and they wanted to do that because I can't really grasp that you are the greatest boxer and the plants just don't worry about it
Super Unbeatable Champ Jordanite = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊👊
Saying that because it helps your channel for him to stay in the game You’re kidding me, he’s garbage he’s only got to the top for fighting garbage twice🙈🙈
Avoiding AJ, it may happen now for some reason ., it tells you one thing, the state of heavyweight division for him to be at the top for so long ., not one of those would’ve been there if it was the 90s
Stop , just stop with this licking !!! Be honest for once !!!
Ebough of aj fury they are past . Time to move on - replace spencer with the duke 💪
Duke keeping it real. 🥊
They're talking shite! I've watched boxing for 70 years and Usyk is up there for sure. They dismiss his chances against Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis etc. To my mind he beats Frazier easily, gases and beats Foreman, He'd outscore Holmes He's 50/50 with Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis. Joshua punches as hard as any of those mentioned and he couldn't drop him and no one else has legally. He's not small compared to any of those past champions and he handled and beat the two biggest around today. Respect the man because he's up their with the best.
Dinlos 😂
Barry from Cornwall Tyson all they do is try to all the families it's got to mess your family up the charger try and message is not p or stay together please just don't let them lucky if they're all w****** don't worry about Tyson you've got a massive family and a great load of fans that love you please Dyson don't go get yourself
moses itauma is the future? forget fury vs joshua boring just a money grab for hearn and warren !!!
Just old gits that can't comprehend that they is an ounce of possibility of a current boxer being better than a boxer in their day. I'm 40, and I don't live in the past like these old timers
Been loving your coverage and build up to big fight. However, Duke does come across as very negative on Fury. I had the first fight as a draw and second as one round win for Usyk. Natural fights now seems the losers vs losers & winners vs winners ie Fury vs AJ and Usyk vs Daniel if he comes through against Parker which isn't a sure thing. I would of put him with Del boy or Joy Joyce as first defence. Just my opinion, loving the channel. Dom👍
Fury best days are gone…..The Fury against Wilder would of beat Usyk…
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Simon Jordan talks utter bllx