This two were amazing. Aiden is a smart man with incredible, quick thinking and negotiation skills. Love both their quiet confidence and humble way of being.
The offer he negotiated (30% for £37.5k) was significantly more expensive than the offer he originally received (£75k for 45%). It's hardly surprising why Theo jumped at it...
Except they're not really 'shafted' - because the dragons have a lot of added value. They can transform a business, but it has to be worth their while, not so much for the monetary expense but the time expense. So that is why it seems like they want a lot of the business - they are not just passive investors.
@@elastronaute1198 Um it is for the monetary expense. If they're not making money, and just wasting time, "helping" people. THEY AREN'T GOING TO DO IT. LITTLE DO YOU KNOW LOLLLLL
I'm not at all convinced he did. Or rather, he got some investment, but only half of what he asked for. The rest was a loan. He gave up 30% of his company in exchange for half of what he asked for. They went bust a year after this was filmed, according to others here.
The negotiation at the end was an extremely impressive demonstration of Aidan's business acumen and I believe is what ultimately convinced Theo he was investing in a business with huge potential. I hope they are successful!
@@calsmyth4483 Exactly. He halved his offer, made the rest of it a loan, so he's pretty much guaranteed that back, and STILL got 30% of the shares. I think he saw this business for exactly what it turned out to be: Something that would make money in the short-term (long enough for Theo to get his loan back and increase the share value enough so he could sell them at a profit... Probably back to Aiden... but it wouldn't last more than a few years.
Theo: gosh. Half the risk and 30% control in a company that'll be ok for a year or two, just long enough for me to get my money back and flog the shares before it collapses. Aiden: well, i think we did very well out of that.
I love the creativity of the home designer, to break into the market for new homes is a high barrier to entry. The efficient business models are already in the market place and they provide satisfying results to home buyers.
@@haribokart Don't cry because of the joke , you'll rip out your gender reassignment stitches !!! Ignore the jokes and eat more soy, it's what your gender non binary psychiatrist recommended
This is not enviro friendly ... Build your own on site using soil and sandbags , fit windows doors chimney and render with a variety of on site materials and finishes . Less transport less manufacturing energy etc 👍
Good negotiation but a worse deal, at 75k for 45%, he valued the business at 166k. At 37.5k for 30% the value dropped to 125k. So not only is theo getting his money back faster, he is also paying less. Not a good deal at all Aidan
The Dragons may not want to live so far below their means, however there are so many people who would happily live in a small dwelling who are saving their money during tough times. Councils could also benefit from the affordable housing for the homeless.
They could but if there’s one I learned is many won’t. This predominant in the US where such things is frowned upon by the government depending on the state.
Oof, not a great deal. Disincentivises the investor from putting effort in, massively reduces value of the business (50% of 15% is now a loan, 30% equity), and even if he does no work - quids in.
00Kuja00 well then most of Africa must be insane, from living in round mud huts - my observation is though, than once they arrive in the cities and live in rooms with corners then they really go insane.
All Dragons missed the crucial point. A lot of folks cannot afford deposits on a house or flat. These dwellings offer the ability to, for example, allow parents the ability to let thier grown up kids have independence until such time they can afford a place of their own.
If it's so great, why did they go bust? Peter didn't say "no one" would like it, he said he didn't think many would. Which evidently was the case. Who's the clueless one here?
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This two were amazing. Aiden is a smart man with incredible, quick thinking and negotiation skills. Love both their quiet confidence and humble way of being.
Theo screwed them.
30% control for half the asking price. Aiden got what he wanted in the very short term, but that's it.
I seemed to think Aidan’s revised offer was worse for him than Theo’s ’final’ one.
I like the negotiation at the end, you dont often see that on here, they usually just accept getting shafted
It's just a show except a few projects. "Series 9’s EcoHab Homes and O-Pod Buildings never saw any investment and have since ceased trading"
Older guy is smart.
The offer he negotiated (30% for £37.5k) was significantly more expensive than the offer he originally received (£75k for 45%). It's hardly surprising why Theo jumped at it...
Except they're not really 'shafted' - because the dragons have a lot of added value. They can transform a business, but it has to be worth their while, not so much for the monetary expense but the time expense. So that is why it seems like they want a lot of the business - they are not just passive investors.
@@elastronaute1198 Um it is for the monetary expense. If they're not making money, and just wasting time, "helping" people. THEY AREN'T GOING TO DO IT. LITTLE DO YOU KNOW LOLLLLL
Well done Aiden , he certainly turned that around with a bit of shrewd thinking.
I'm not at all convinced he did. Or rather, he got some investment, but only half of what he asked for. The rest was a loan.
He gave up 30% of his company in exchange for half of what he asked for.
They went bust a year after this was filmed, according to others here.
The negotiation at the end was an extremely impressive demonstration of Aidan's business acumen and I believe is what ultimately convinced Theo he was investing in a business with huge potential. I hope they are successful!
Um... I don't think that's what happened at all. Aiden THOUGHT he was being clever, but Theo stitched him up.
Really? You think dropping from 45% for £75k to 30% for £37.5k is "extremely impressive"!? 66% of the equity for 50% of the price?
@@calsmyth4483 Exactly. He halved his offer, made the rest of it a loan, so he's pretty much guaranteed that back, and STILL got 30% of the shares.
I think he saw this business for exactly what it turned out to be: Something that would make money in the short-term (long enough for Theo to get his loan back and increase the share value enough so he could sell them at a profit... Probably back to Aiden... but it wouldn't last more than a few years.
@@peterclarke7240 and it didnt. seems it flopped after 2 years.
Wow, that negotiation at the end was really something.
It's just a show except a few projects. "Series 9’s EcoHab Homes and O-Pod Buildings never saw any investment and have since ceased trading"..
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Peter: *absolutely rips his business to shreds*
Aiden: Appreciate that
I think he meant "appreciate" in the sense that he understood Peter was declining to make an offer on the grounds of personal taste.
Took it like a champ
😂😂😂
Company went out of business in 2012. This was roughly a year after this was filmed. It was never going to sell that much.
Rip beehives
Too bad it was pre-Airbnb
Prob the market share is too small
@Danni is Lazy better than a lot of properties I’ve viewed.
That's a shame
Aiden did very well. Smart ol dude.
RIP Hilary 🙏 you will be missed
Lovely Hilary, a very nice Dragon.
Always loved you Hillary!!! RIP 😢♥
She looking up at us right now and smiling. RIP 😿
Yesss I’ll forever love Ms. Hilary
Wow that’s sad
I remember this one. Quick wit indeed. One of the best negotiations. Alas, it was dissolved in 2012.
Theo: gosh. Half the risk and 30% control in a company that'll be ok for a year or two, just long enough for me to get my money back and flog the shares before it collapses.
Aiden: well, i think we did very well out of that.
I love the creativity of the home designer, to break into the market for new homes is a high barrier to entry. The efficient business models are already in the market place and they provide satisfying results to home buyers.
Possibly my favourite duo of all time on this show.
Peter always tells it how it is 😂👍
How on earth did they get that house in the Den?😄
When I look at the larger one, it looks less like a beehive and more like something Spongebob is going to walk out of.
Theo made the deal just to kiss Gemma.
Gemma is a gem!
Smart, elegant, and very pretty
Indeed. I would easily give him 75k for 100% of her.
@@turbochrist Creepy
@@BenjaminGoose It's called a joke.
@@tomaszczapiewski3359 Well yeah but jokes are meant to be funny.
@@haribokart Don't cry because of the joke , you'll rip out your gender reassignment stitches !!! Ignore the jokes and eat more soy, it's what your gender non binary psychiatrist recommended
Duncan is thinking what we are all thinking
I agree with Peter that thing is an absolute eyesore, wouldn't think many would like that in their garden
I think they actually would fit in well in a garden, they are quite rustic looking.
11:37 Peter positively amused just like the rest of us
They look like Namekian dragon ball houses with bee hive skin unlocked.
Was hoping one of the dragons would have said they were "two peas in a pod" but it never happened
I would hav loved to have seen the inside along with the dragons
Their egos didn't fit in such a small dwelling.
Gemma was brilliant. If I had a business I would want people like her working for me 😊
Hillaries shoulder pads are cutting edge 86
One of the best business negotiations I've ever seen
In what way? It seemed pretty awful to me. The huge number of people impressed by it is quite concerning - I hope none of you run businesses!
They need to Beehave 🐝
You need to buzz off 🐝
Oh beehive!
Oh Ben, you're such a joker!
Drone, drone…🍻
Got my wagamama order on the way, ive paused this to wait until its here and consume both at the same time haha
I’m surprised that anyone want to live in that, especially with barely any windows
lame Series 9’s EcoHab Homes and O-Pod Buildings never saw any investment and have since ceased trading."
EcoHab Homes company dissolved Sept 2012
Looks like the homes in Dragon Ball Z! The problem with this taking off is you can't stack domes to make it multi-level.
Given that would likely require planning permission, and the selling point of these is that they don't need it, I don't think that's a major problem.
This is not enviro friendly ...
Build your own on site using soil and sandbags , fit windows doors chimney and render with a variety of on site materials and finishes . Less transport less manufacturing energy etc 👍
Shut up nobody cares if it’s environmentally friendly
I hope they did well, but I'd be shocked if they're in business.
RIP Hilary madam 🙏
Good luck to them both
R.I.P Hilary
Now that’s a proper team
Everyone living in pods. What a brave new world. Hooray.
Why do they not build round homes in parts of which ever Country that are prone to high winds or hurricane type storms.?
You know what Deborah will do by what Peter does I've been noticing
I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and the negotiations at the end. And she is absolutely beautiful.
Good negotiation but a worse deal, at 75k for 45%, he valued the business at 166k. At 37.5k for 30% the value dropped to 125k. So not only is theo getting his money back faster, he is also paying less. Not a good deal at all Aidan
True he dropped the valuation but he keeps a larger share of the business? So essentially he traded equity for value?
How is that company doing?
Theo was looking for a place for his children
I would buy one, I think they look really cool and different. I'd be the first one on MY block.
Guaranteed epic failure. This won’t go anywhere. Very dumb idea.
Hilary is so lovely. Sad she’s not among us anymore.
i literally thought that was a beehive 😂 😂
Gemma should be working full time in front of the camera.
Did he quote George Osborne LOL
Nice one!
The Dragons may not want to live so far below their means, however there are so many people who would happily live in a small dwelling who are saving their money during tough times. Councils could also benefit from the affordable housing for the homeless.
Except homelessness isn't about cost of building a building.
They could but if there’s one I learned is many won’t. This predominant in the US where such things is frowned upon by the government depending on the state.
@@cekojuna6930 why is it frowned upon in the US?
The alan sugar book in the beehive 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
straight up lie that this is in 1080p res
Something out of the Flintstones.
how many people since lockdown build back yard pubs, i see a greater market for this now for that reason
i just love hillary
Most expensive beehive. But it's the cheapest garden pod by 25%.
What is this? A pod for ants?
Reminds me of spongebobs pineapple house 😂
There is nothing inside it.
Hmm, this might be only the second good deal for both sides that I have ever seen on this show.
I wonder how that company did
Apparently they went bust I'm only going on another comment I read
That was great
I feel like pre-AirBnB this is a totally different pitch. Too early :/
So for £37.5k Theo gets 30% of the profits...which will be roughly £30k...so a bad deal.
Yeah but he gets it forever so obviously it will be more than 30
It's a shame Peter Jones is so rude to hopeful people
RIP Hillary
Oof, not a great deal. Disincentivises the investor from putting effort in, massively reduces value of the business (50% of 15% is now a loan, 30% equity), and even if he does no work - quids in.
Could that negotiation bee anymore interesting!
Is the company dissolved?
yes in sept 2012
The Beehive creation looks at least interesting and fun.... The Horrible thing behind them is a Design-crime against humanity.
That’s a niche, quirky little product, it will sell some but it’s not a business
May have sold well post covid19.
A designer once told me people will go insane if they live in a round room. Apparently we need corners to fix our gaze on. ^^*
00Kuja00 well then most of Africa must be insane, from living in round mud huts - my observation is though, than once they arrive in the cities and live in rooms with corners then they really go insane.
most of our ancestors lives in round houses
Not enough corners to go round.
It sounds like that designer is a nutcase himself.
yes, i stare at my corners at least 2 hours per day. Thank god for corners or I'd be nuts.
The sound is so consistently BAD. Must be the producers mate. Thats the BBC for you
I’ve never had anyone say “it’s Theo we wanted” 🙂
I miss Theo he was a G
RIP the foetus 👏
A thousand what?
@@BenjaminGoose Yeah so if you can leave the jokes to us. Thanks.
@@ifwecouldvote hahahaha
I love these kinds of houses... Always want one
How has nobody mentioned sponge bob square pants?🥴
Alan Sugar
Welcome to the Shire
Jema is really cute!
All Dragons missed the crucial point. A lot of folks cannot afford deposits on a house or flat. These dwellings offer the ability to, for example, allow parents the ability to let thier grown up kids have independence until such time they can afford a place of their own.
ahhhhh the lovely Hilary ......
360° buildings aren't friendly to a 90° world.
I'm next biggest deal inventor ,next Nikola Tesla 😁😁😁😁🌏🌎🌍🌍🌏
100,000!! ... We can 3D print homes in 12 hours that size out of the dirt / concrete surrounding them.. and all for less than 10k.
It looks like Spongebob's pineapple house.
Time to find out which dragon has been unusually quiet today
hobbits and ferengis are the prime targets
kinda want a hobbits house
So they valued their Company at 500k Theo valued the company at 165k .They shook hands at 123k 🤦♂️
The deal never closed so emm yeah
@@hamza361 ok . The agreed deal was at 123k
That would look great in the back yard.
Peter is clueless haha
If it's so great, why did they go bust? Peter didn't say "no one" would like it, he said he didn't think many would. Which evidently was the case. Who's the clueless one here?
Apparently you are because your another negative person happy to see a good company fail.
They had a great idea and I liked it.
Depends I for one dont like it neither .. the idea is fine the look isnt
Ethereum 👍
That girl is cute
I like it
Sometimes or most of the time, the dragons are predatory and the deal is horrible. 45% lol that’s crazy
Telly tubby house