Major props to Vector’s VA here. The switch between the two voices is amazing and I felt like there was a huge payoff hearing his “real” voice that had so much emotion
Absolutely. I was going to comment this but figured I'd look to see if anyone else had. Surprisingly, you're the only one I've found-he puts a lot of emotion into his voice, it's well done.
I love Vector and his story. Some people find it off putting because of the hive-mind thing. But the point of the story (at least the romance story) is that he becomes more than just part of the hive. He gets back into what he loved as a human and allows himself to feel human emotions again without having to give up the nest and the feeling of community. And the Agent accepts him for that. I think it's a beautiful story of acceptance and unconditional love. Thanks for the video! I typed out every piece of dialogue for the Expanded SWTOR Universe story I'm writing for my Harbinger server Legacy =)
It's understandable to find him creepy, I think there's a very niche market for hive-minds. I usually hate them in stories because I find them strange. But it just works with Vector I dunno why haha
I know this is a three year old comment but I just had to reply since I was just thinking about the Vector romance having just finished an agent character. I'd first want to say he wasn't willingly joined to the Hive, he rediscovers his humanity and individuality thanks to the player but that was never taken from him by his own volition. The sense of community he gets from the nest is because the nest decided to make him a valuable asset as Dawn Herald. The Nest decides what he does and doesn't get to do and he's brainwashed into accepting it because of the gradual joining process he was likely unknowingly subjected. Sure the agents accepts him for his joiner status but that's just allowing the continuance of a major medical affliction under the condition of "love and acceptance". If we really wanted to do right by Vector we would have freed him from the hive mind and and given him his complete independence back with some consequences for the relationship. As it stands now Vector is nothing but a slave to an insect hive mind and we actively do him a disservice by not freeing him of what really is a medical affliction.
The imperial agent is one of my favorite story lines because it allowed me to play a very complicated character. This sort of thing didn't happen with any other story I felt. I played a cold forged man but was not cruel or totally unkind. He was was prideful of his service to the empire but rolled over to the whims of the Sith, frustrated at them all the while for making his job harder every day and complaining with other intelligence officers about it. I was never able to actually choose choices that didn't adhere to one main attitude of the character. Genuine frustration that had to be sucked up was really new and interesting. Usually that character is frustrated at a situation then just fix it.
EonaLieksCheese He may be flamboyant but from the conversations the female warrior has with Doc, he is trustworthy. He may come off as someone who galivants or someone with somewhat questionable morals but overall he's a morally good character.
+Jennifer Bibi I can understand Vector's appeal, but why Doc? He's annoying and he flirts with every girl he lays his eyes on. Not exactly healthy relationship material.
Lt. Basil if you progress through the relationship he does actually change a little. When he ends up having a relationship with the JK he comes to realise having a healthy realtionship is a good thing. Heck, he even wants kids with her at the end. Healthy to me is understanding your relationship and acknowledging your partners faults. He flirts a lot yeah, but did they ever show him being unfaithful or cheating? He even makes a comment where he researched wookies. At first he couldn't fathom being with only one person but after a while he learned more while being in that relationship. Lol Doc doesn't seem popular. I guess you and i are going to have to agree to disagree
Lt. Basil as for the appeal i just found him funny. His cheesy jokes and his big ego just made me laugh. I can see why people would find it annoying but he's fun and it was a good route that wasn't too intense and angsty. Though i will admit it was a little flat at the and the pacing was a little off.
Thank you again for making this, I love Vector along with Doc, Torian, Corso and Aric. He's different but sweet and would grow on you if given the chance.
6:42 agent: nothing wins a girl's heart like bug milk vector: we're not sure you'd like to hear t he details me: well whatever it is im sure its much better than green milk luke squeeze and drink in the last jedi....
WorkGalaxy47 use body #1, Asian face of choice and hair #2 and complexion of choice. I used purplish blue skin and dark blue hair. I love my IA. Chiss rule.
Sort of... "Joining" the Killik hive mind dulls your personality and sense of self. You become a part of a greater whole, rather than a singular entity. Your knowledge and skills are shared among the Killiks, and your personality subtly influences a certain nest's behavior, but you yourself are a drone among many. It sounds bad, but Killiks don't force people to join. They're peaceful by nature. Those who do, do so willingly, and find their own lives enriched by this new state of being. The process can be reversed but most simply choose not to, because they're happy to be a part of something greater than themselves.
Does ANYONE know the name of the theme that plays at 30:20, 39:28 - 40:00. It seems to play whenever there's serious romantic interaction with Vector, and I've always seen it as... his theme, more or less. Anyone know where this exists on the soundtrack, if at all? It's beautiful.
I haven't watched the whole video because I want Vector as my agent's Love interest. Is he a good mix with a sniper? DPS doesn't usually mix well with other DPS's
It is possible to make DPS + DPS work. You take down mobs twice as fast, just remember to pause between fights to heal yourself. I have a gunslinger + HK-51 combo and it works well for me
So I just finished the Eradicators quest but didn't get that dialogue and the flirting option :((( do you need max affection? I only have like 1/4 and it's hard (?) to get my hands on gifts... T_T
+FluffyNinjaLlama ugh great. At least I did get the Companion Conversations and I'm a bit closer to 50% affection haha xD will try to look for gifts so I max it out asap... thank you very much for the confirmation
I actually hate that Vector cares more about himself and his clan of murdering psycho-bugs than you. I always refuse his proposal, because I think if he truly loves me, he should have the decently to undo his joining and become a human again. It's sad that the Female agent has to go without a lover, but that problem was resolved in expansions by allowing them to marry Theron Shan. An Imperial Agent and an SIS agent falling in love is the coolest thing ever. Especially when you do LS agent, and end up a double agent, which also ties in nicely to being a Saboteur with Onslaught.
@@Nemisionn Have you not played the LS agent? The Killiks wanted to force House Cortress to become joiners, and when the LS Agent rightfully testifies against such War Crimes, Vector stands by your side and slays all the Kelliks.
@@Real_JKDOSI don't play LS sith/agents, but this video literally shows how that goes. And killing some killiks is not the same as completely leaving them. It's all but stated that he didn't join them willingly in the first place, so if he was able to leave he most likely would've left. He isn't completely "absorbed" by them - since he explicitly says that he doesn't want Agent to become a joiner (which the killiks would probably prefer), and is able to fall for her and temporarily suppress the connection, but there is nothing that even implies he'd be able to actually leave.
Not going to lie, the star wars universe has alot of really weird stuff in it, stuff including in SWTOR legit feels like fetish fuel considering how out of the box it is, you got cathar obviously, inherent issue there, but you can romance a bug man? Dont get me wrong, i like vector, very good companion, and great guy honestly, one of the better male romances, but man.... you might as well be trying to romance the rakghoul doctor at that point.
Swtor is a SciFi game, Duh. The game is going to have unusual interactions with different species. It is people like you, that interrupt that to be something disgusting, fetish aimed, sexual, or in fact with your choice of words "Cather obviously Inherent Issues" downright racist.
TheNewThirteen eh, lota ppl on empire dont like lightside, guess its because the symbols red or storyline ppl fear you and they want to change that. ill never know.
It's people like y'all that are the problem lol In what way would anyone have a problem with this? Move on with your life and stop being so obsessed with an issue that isn't present.
...does this "Joiner" thing and the Killiks sound a bit like the Star Wars equivalent of the Borg to anyone else? It can't be just me...... (I mean, in the beginning... that "the nest must expand" stuff sounds Borg-ish.....
+MewTangerine I think there's a pretty inherent difference between the Borg and the Killiks in that a) the Killiks are their own species, whereas the Borg is made up ENTIRELY of beings from other species and b) the Killiks seems to want to avoid involuntary Joiners, whereas the Borg makes a regular habit of forcibly taking individuals into their collective.
Major props to Vector’s VA here. The switch between the two voices is amazing and I felt like there was a huge payoff hearing his “real” voice that had so much emotion
Absolutely. I was going to comment this but figured I'd look to see if anyone else had. Surprisingly, you're the only one I've found-he puts a lot of emotion into his voice, it's well done.
I love Vector and his story. Some people find it off putting because of the hive-mind thing. But the point of the story (at least the romance story) is that he becomes more than just part of the hive. He gets back into what he loved as a human and allows himself to feel human emotions again without having to give up the nest and the feeling of community. And the Agent accepts him for that. I think it's a beautiful story of acceptance and unconditional love.
Thanks for the video! I typed out every piece of dialogue for the Expanded SWTOR Universe story I'm writing for my Harbinger server Legacy =)
I find him a bit creepy but defiantly a nice guy
It's understandable to find him creepy, I think there's a very niche market for hive-minds. I usually hate them in stories because I find them strange. But it just works with Vector I dunno why haha
Kendra Fitzpatrick It's probably because he doesn't act like one of the "Join us" hive mine types
You know, I think you're exactly right
I know this is a three year old comment but I just had to reply since I was just thinking about the Vector romance having just finished an agent character. I'd first want to say he wasn't willingly joined to the Hive, he rediscovers his humanity and individuality thanks to the player but that was never taken from him by his own volition. The sense of community he gets from the nest is because the nest decided to make him a valuable asset as Dawn Herald. The Nest decides what he does and doesn't get to do and he's brainwashed into accepting it because of the gradual joining process he was likely unknowingly subjected. Sure the agents accepts him for his joiner status but that's just allowing the continuance of a major medical affliction under the condition of "love and acceptance".
If we really wanted to do right by Vector we would have freed him from the hive mind and and given him his complete independence back with some consequences for the relationship. As it stands now Vector is nothing but a slave to an insect hive mind and we actively do him a disservice by not freeing him of what really is a medical affliction.
The imperial agent is one of my favorite story lines because it allowed me to play a very complicated character. This sort of thing didn't happen with any other story I felt. I played a cold forged man but was not cruel or totally unkind. He was was prideful of his service to the empire but rolled over to the whims of the Sith, frustrated at them all the while for making his job harder every day and complaining with other intelligence officers about it.
I was never able to actually choose choices that didn't adhere to one main attitude of the character. Genuine frustration that had to be sucked up was really new and interesting. Usually that character is frustrated at a situation then just fix it.
All I hear is Hawke when she talks lol.
Moerighan I didn’t notice until u mentioned it. Same VA?
And at 30:25 you can hear male Hawke (Nicholas Boulton). :)
JUMS JIE GRAZUS?
And he reminds me of Anders...
Haweky kisses girl
hes a little creepy but handsome and oddly romantic. vector is probably my favourite romancable male companion. Doc would be my second favourite
+Jennifer Bibi I didn't like Doc that much, I like more trusting relationships like Iresso's and Jorgans better.
EonaLieksCheese He may be flamboyant but from the conversations the female warrior has with Doc, he is trustworthy. He may come off as someone who galivants or someone with somewhat questionable morals but overall he's a morally good character.
+Jennifer Bibi I can understand Vector's appeal, but why Doc? He's annoying and he flirts with every girl he lays his eyes on. Not exactly healthy relationship material.
Lt. Basil if you progress through the relationship he does actually change a little. When he ends up having a relationship with the JK he comes to realise having a healthy realtionship is a good thing. Heck, he even wants kids with her at the end. Healthy to me is understanding your relationship and acknowledging your partners faults. He flirts a lot yeah, but did they ever show him being unfaithful or cheating? He even makes a comment where he researched wookies. At first he couldn't fathom being with only one person but after a while he learned more while being in that relationship. Lol Doc doesn't seem popular. I guess you and i are going to have to agree to disagree
Lt. Basil as for the appeal i just found him funny. His cheesy jokes and his big ego just made me laugh. I can see why people would find it annoying but he's fun and it was a good route that wasn't too intense and angsty. Though i will admit it was a little flat at the and the pacing was a little off.
"you planning to steal the baron's prized thrantas?"
"what? we got room on the ship" Kaliyo is so funny.
11:54 I can just imagine him saying 'Fly my pretties! Fly! Fly! Hahahaha!'
omg yes!
I knew I wasn't the only one
Always like Vector, due to his Joining, he's one of the most interesting characters in the game.
Thank you again for making this, I love Vector along with Doc, Torian, Corso and Aric. He's different but sweet and would grow on you if given the chance.
Vector is actually quite sweet and does not push too much.
6:42 agent: nothing wins a girl's heart like bug milk
vector: we're not sure you'd like to hear t he details
me: well whatever it is im sure its much better than green milk luke squeeze and drink in the last jedi....
Vector is just a human with black eyes, can talk to bugs, and says: we, instead of I.
4:01 HOLY SHIT! That is just terrifying.
With the exception of Aric Jorgan, Vector has the cutest Female Character to Companion romance. He's just so adorable.
What qvour the female smuggler
20:33 to 20:42 - when you're high af & eat your favourite munchies.
HAHAHAHAHAHA-
I'm not sure whether this guy is more cute or unnerving…
gotta admit though his eyes are pretty nice
Stealthyhunter When they're his natural eyes anyway. The black killik eyes are kind of creepy.
Lt. Basil
yeah.
I never really liked insects, but theres a first for everything ^^
Anyone else here Dorian Pavus when Denri Ayl speaks? Dorian is one of my top favorites from DA3. That’s Dorian, it has to be!
Bioware Y U NO MAKE WATCHER 2 A COMPANION!?
IKR?
Isn't that FemHawke's voice?
I don't know if I could get past the "I have bug ambassadors under my skin" bit.
Vector may be my favourite companion, but I couldn't build enough balls to romance him. Felt wrong to me
Did I just hear male Hawke talking to female Hawke??
Where
I love vector he is one of my top 5 romance options❤❤. His eyes remained me of Thane Krios.
He has Thane's eyes and (kinda) Legion's personality ( _we_ are Legion for _we_ are one). Love him!
I let him to take the house as a hive.
NEVER BETRAY THE EMPIRE
Yep
I have to say, I like the way you made your IA!
WorkGalaxy47 use body #1, Asian face of choice and hair #2 and complexion of choice. I used purplish blue skin and dark blue hair. I love my IA. Chiss rule.
Female chiss scare me for some reason.
Why would you not want to know the details about the bug milk
my buggy boyy aww
I am really sad because male Agents can't flirt with him, I really want to, but the game doesn't allow me to. T_T
Am i the only one that notices his package.. .___.
No, his package is huge for mating
Yeah no sane person would give up their free will.
Teah some people do. If you get what I mean
So... it's like Gem fusion? He's still himself, but his consciousness is intertwined with that of the Hive? Making a new combined identity?
Sort of... "Joining" the Killik hive mind dulls your personality and sense of self. You become a part of a greater whole, rather than a singular entity. Your knowledge and skills are shared among the Killiks, and your personality subtly influences a certain nest's behavior, but you yourself are a drone among many.
It sounds bad, but Killiks don't force people to join. They're peaceful by nature. Those who do, do so willingly, and find their own lives enriched by this new state of being. The process can be reversed but most simply choose not to, because they're happy to be a part of something greater than themselves.
@@itheckinwindy I think he is referring to Vector specifically, in which case he is right
Yeah, in a way. But Garnet and other fusions say "I", "me", and so forth. But here, he speaks for both himself and the hive, so it's "we" and "us".
I just started with my IA and was going to hook her up with Lana. But now..... sorry, Lana lol.
Me: *plans to romance Theron Shan, makes Imp Agent specifically for it, stumbles on these videos, lobs plan out window*
I wish there's a special loyalty mission....where we can force falner into what he hates most
Turning him into a joiner
I wish that too but don't think Victor would like forcing him
Like his character. Sad he cant be romanced by male agente, cause I defenetly would.
Right I would love to romance him with my male agente
I always enjoy watching your romance compilation vidoes. Though, I am curious, do you prefer any particular romances in The Old Republic?
Does ANYONE know the name of the theme that plays at 30:20, 39:28 - 40:00. It seems to play whenever there's serious romantic interaction with Vector, and I've always seen it as... his theme, more or less. Anyone know where this exists on the soundtrack, if at all? It's beautiful.
evergreenwings it's bastila's theme from KOTOR I believe.
So you can romance him even if you don't make House Cortess into a kilik hive? Phew. xD
did any one else notice the face at 4:02 ?
This is a Great Story of testing the loyalty of one from family to love one on 14:00
I don't think I could ever fall for him, but he is very handsome. XD
We like this video
at 12:22 the lady's coat starts clipping. :D
fluffyninjaLlama how do you do the flirts and the romance.can you tell me
I haven't watched the whole video because I want Vector as my agent's Love interest. Is he a good mix with a sniper? DPS doesn't usually mix well with other DPS's
It is possible to make DPS + DPS work. You take down mobs twice as fast, just remember to pause between fights to heal yourself. I have a gunslinger + HK-51 combo and it works well for me
Phillip Tuck Thanks! I'm just afraid I'm not good enough to go dps + dps. ^-^;
Sasoriscarecrow
It works but in my case you will need to equip vector with moddable armor ( He uses willpower)
Give enough time to get used to it and it works fine. I have a marauder + Jaesa and I find it a lot easier than when I had Quinn.
What sub class is your agent? Is it a sniper or a operator?
Eh im not one for dimplomacy im more of an agressive negotiator
And who's "WE"
So I just finished the Eradicators quest but didn't get that dialogue and the flirting option :((( do you need max affection? I only have like 1/4 and it's hard (?) to get my hands on gifts... T_T
+Fluff Lynn You need affection to unlock conversations
+FluffyNinjaLlama ugh great. At least I did get the Companion Conversations and I'm a bit closer to 50% affection haha xD will try to look for gifts so I max it out asap... thank you very much for the confirmation
+Fluff Lynn Haha absolutely! :)
Haha, Hawke...
Did he just slap her then kill her ? 0o
39:58 Awww! ^^
Ok, who voices him? I'm hearing DS9's doctor (can't remember the name at the moment).
I think it's the guy who voices Anders from Dragon Age
She's the closest to my Operative. My agent is a slim built Chiss female with a short cut dark blue hair and a delicate Asian featured face.
what clas are you sniper or op????
hahaha i was just about to say that
Aww :-)
Well...Better then Corso Riggs
This somewhat disturbing...
Haaaaaaawke
I actually hate that Vector cares more about himself and his clan of murdering psycho-bugs than you. I always refuse his proposal, because I think if he truly loves me, he should have the decently to undo his joining and become a human again. It's sad that the Female agent has to go without a lover, but that problem was resolved in expansions by allowing them to marry Theron Shan. An Imperial Agent and an SIS agent falling in love is the coolest thing ever. Especially when you do LS agent, and end up a double agent, which also ties in nicely to being a Saboteur with Onslaught.
You know he _can't_ undo his joining, right? You know he truly loves you because he doesn't want _you_ to become joiner.
@@Nemisionn There was some dialogue about undoing the joining in the romance storyline, and he tells you "no"
@@Real_JKDOS exactly. Do you really think the killiks would allow him to even consider it?
@@Nemisionn Have you not played the LS agent? The Killiks wanted to force House Cortress to become joiners, and when the LS Agent rightfully testifies against such War Crimes, Vector stands by your side and slays all the Kelliks.
@@Real_JKDOSI don't play LS sith/agents, but this video literally shows how that goes. And killing some killiks is not the same as completely leaving them. It's all but stated that he didn't join them willingly in the first place, so if he was able to leave he most likely would've left. He isn't completely "absorbed" by them - since he explicitly says that he doesn't want Agent to become a joiner (which the killiks would probably prefer), and is able to fall for her and temporarily suppress the connection, but there is nothing that even implies he'd be able to actually leave.
Not going to lie, the star wars universe has alot of really weird stuff in it, stuff including in SWTOR legit feels like fetish fuel considering how out of the box it is, you got cathar obviously, inherent issue there, but you can romance a bug man? Dont get me wrong, i like vector, very good companion, and great guy honestly, one of the better male romances, but man.... you might as well be trying to romance the rakghoul doctor at that point.
Inherent issue with the cathar?
Everything looks tame when you realise you can romance Khem Val
Swtor is a SciFi game, Duh. The game is going to have unusual interactions with different species. It is people like you, that interrupt that to be something disgusting, fetish aimed, sexual, or in fact with your choice of words "Cather obviously Inherent Issues" downright racist.
No one show him any of BioWare's other sci-fi games.
420th Like. hehe
so gross! lol barf! XD
WERE JUST A.I. PROGRAMS LOLZ!
Wtf 0o hes part bug
IMP AGENT GOING LIGHT SIDE SUCK
That's pretty close-minded, don't you think?
TheNewThirteen eh, lota ppl on empire dont like lightside, guess its because the symbols red or storyline ppl fear you and they want to change that. ill never know.
Darth'Sexy'Satona My imp agent is light-sided. I actually love it, but that's just me :D
What is sad is that in 2019 these storylines would not be able to be written because of the SJW woke trash culture ...
This comment is over a year old, but I just _had_ to point out what complete and utter *bullshit* you're spewing here.
It's people like y'all that are the problem lol
In what way would anyone have a problem with this?
Move on with your life and stop being so obsessed with an issue that isn't present.
...does this "Joiner" thing and the Killiks sound a bit like the Star Wars equivalent of the Borg to anyone else? It can't be just me...... (I mean, in the beginning... that "the nest must expand" stuff sounds Borg-ish.....
Sounds more like mass effect's Geth called Legion
+MewTangerine I think there's a pretty inherent difference between the Borg and the Killiks in that a) the Killiks are their own species, whereas the Borg is made up ENTIRELY of beings from other species and b) the Killiks seems to want to avoid involuntary Joiners, whereas the Borg makes a regular habit of forcibly taking individuals into their collective.
+Yue Sarutobi …actually it kinda does, now that you mention it…
It's an echo to Legion from Mass Effect, but better done ( even if Legion story was great ).
Prettt borgy to me