Concave Skateboards VS Flat Skateboards
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I know it was a joke but the irony of skaters actually saying "this is private park" is too funny.
That bmx dude definitely coming back to get his clip he don't care about your private property 🤣🤣
Lmao it’s a road bike not bmx is funniest part
you guys should do an Indy's vs Thunders next seeing most of you guys ride indy's there
Great idea 💡
They just know that Indys are way better already
yeah that would be sick!
Indys the only truck
Thunder and Venture >
A steeper tail does not actually 'pop higher', instead it allows for more time (before) for you to jump up in order to allow the board to go up more. There's also more travel before the tail or nose hits the ground, which mostly influences timing and not so much pop height. In terms of rigidness and such, a whole bunch more comes down to the weight of the entire setup actually. It's fairly hard to distinguish the true difference in pop when it comes to fresh decks in most cases. (Especially because different decks will require you to get used to the different timings involved! Some people hate steep decks because of the change in timing and possibility for ghost pop etc.). It only becomes different when different materials were used, like for example the Powell Peralta Flight decks (pop on those is truly insane, and they're actually fairly mellow decks). Also, bigger wheels matter more for most setups for sure due to the range of steepness where nothing is too crazy.
Man Zach’s style is just so smooth and solid! Love watching him skate!
I personally can’t skate a mellow board though. I feel like there’s less board feel for me with a mellow board like I’m just standing on a 2x6 or something.
physics between both really interests me. Its fascinating. The fact that steep board is "easier" to pop and flip is a fact, tho that doesnt scratch off the mellow board. Both of em good as hell. I suppose its all about taste, but I'd research these cases in some physical simulation...
Flat boards just make me mad , idk why they just do 😂🤷🏽♂️
Me too bro their image looks like the ones you can buy on walmart i prefer steep concave it got shape and swag
Saaaaame
zac and irv lookin like twins with the matching fit
I skate mellow boards and I like a short wheelbase. "Stubby" works well for me. Generally, I like a 14" WB but will skate up to a 14.25" and no longer than 31.8.
Same here! I wish more boards would be with a max wheelbase of 14" when it comes to wider decks (8.25" or even 8.5").
What brands do you ride in those sizes?
@@samueljamespillar right now, I'm riding a Chocolate "chunk". It's 8.18 x 31.5 with a 14" WB. It's their G028 shape. I like it a lot. Next up is an Alien Workshop. "High Priest ". It's 8.125 x 31.5 with a 14.25" WB. I haven't skated an Alien since the 90s so we will see how it works out. Antihero makes an awesome 8.125 x 31.38 with a 14" WB. It's a harder to find shape but I've skated 2 of them an loved both.
@@62killab thanks man
@@62killab dude i have the same shape , absolutely loving it . Its the perfect combination between wheelbase, deck width and lenght. I Wonder if the Girls decks with the same shape code have any difference.
In the late 90s, dwindle boards came In steep concaves, it was called monster mold concave and most of them were 7.75, that size mixed with a steep concave was incredible so my point is, I think steep concaves on small boards is a perfect combo, the wider they get the harder it is to control. I feel a wide board with a steep concave should be paired with super low trucks and 50mm wheels. Just my opinion
I'm liking the instrumental music in the background
Hey Alex
Same
@@treyhermann8240 wassup trey
@@stoffie9521 ayyyyy
I paused the video twice thinking it was a phone ringing around me 😂
I see Zach is a man of culture based off his grip
Currently riding a 8.25 Steep Deathwish and it was my first steep board. It didn’t skate too differently. It felt a little more comfortable than a mellow board with how it catches my foot when I ollie or when I am trying weird transition tricks. But I feel like my mellow board Im getting is gonna be easier to skate on cause its just gonna feel the same as when I started skating.
So we can say there are 3 size: Flat, mellow and steep?
I did not expect to see one of the cleanest tres of all time in this video xD 3:09
Watch Felipe gustavo
Wasn’t that clean
I snapped my deck yesterday and i set up my first FA board today and im having trouble getting used to it, but i think it has more to do with the fresh mob griptape vs the clear grip i had on the last board. Between the steepness and the extra grip its just clinging too much. I can definitely nollie a lot higher and i like how it stick too my feet for like 180s and stuff but having trouble flipping it the way i wanna
Idk how it happened but I find myself watching this channel more than John's channel 🤔
Yeah, same here 🤔
Because they post more
Also I think cause it's a group of homies skating. Its the kinda vibes I'm looking for
He has a channel?
Cuz these videos are better lol
Trucks play a big role when having a steep or mellow board. In general, Indys work better with mellow boards, while thunders work usually better with steep boards, due to the height and wheelbase difference.
Yup 100 percent, I ride Indy 144s with an 8.25 or 8.38, but if I were to ride thunders with my 8.25 they'd be 148s, thunders are so much more detailed, I am a simple guy lol, and Indy's are simple. But the best longest lasting truck I think lol
I have a steep zero deck with standard thunders, i find it hard to ollie idk i think its becoz i get used to in mellow deck set up before. Do u think mellow board will work fine in thunder??
@@grashiela.v Mhh I just would try it in your situation. Trying out different set ups is good so you now what your preference will be.
@@Robstar_ thanks for the info robert, big help!
I tend to find steep decks have shorter tails so Indies work best to give me some tail back while thunders and ventures add wheelbase length which would make the steep short tail feel even shorter and steeper.
I like mellow decks with Thunder and ventures with some height for those brands. Steeper decks like FA Hockey get Indie trucks with forged baseplates to lower the tail and shorten wheel base.
Mellow for life, steeper looks beautiful but without the perfect balance between wheels size and truck hight you gonna suck trying to snap you tricks
Liking the more mellow boards these days. Never paid attention in my young years but find the mellow to be more comfortable under my feet for sure.
Love high concaves 8" / 8.125 is great for me (street, stairs, ledges...). The steep nose (or tail) is not my preference, but if I suffer to Ollie high enough on something it comes in handy. Medium decks are fine, I suck at riding mellow decks😂
So medium decka are more concave than mellow decks?
Mellow boards are the way to go for me, cannot stand steep kicks and concave. I’m that picky with my board I often constantly shop for a spare board whilst skating a fresh setup because they are hard to come by a solid flat deck I find. More times than I can count I’ve spent £70 on a deck and it’s either on a pile with the rest of them after an hours skate on it, or I’ve given it to someone else to skate. I’m one of the very particular people, I’m the same with trucks and wheels, have to be either low Indy hollow lights with 52mm wheels or tensor lows with the hollow kingpin. I actually had a pair of thunder lows that were really good but got ‘stolen’ when I left them in the boot of my mates car.
Great video though and solid skating all round!
Here we go boyyyyys
I like the steep concave like FA as i noticed my feet grips better when sliding/flicking, tho i have to ride low trucks to combat the steep angle of the nose/tail
"Ervin pro model" 🤣 I miss these guys
This has got me curious about foot shape vs concave. For example will a person with flat feet feel more comfortable on a flatter concave? it might not make any difference, at the same time it could be game changing advice for beginners.
I have high arches and I'm a runner. I prefer a mellow concave. For what it's worth.
I gotta say, I just got a deck with a SUPER steep concave & kick, and I can barely skate the darn thing compared to what I'm used to. Definitely takes some getting used to...
The h8ful is a fire ass movie.. can't unsee it.
I prefer a mellow flatter board. My friend gave me his old steep back in HS and I rode it for a year or two. Wasn’t bad but definitely not as comfortable
all this green I thought I was watching a GTA San Andreas video
Do a video on deck board sizes without telling them which size is which to see which one the majority of them feel more comfortable on
With the right haircut that dude in green would look just like a young Tony Hawk
Why is Zach so good lmao does he skate a steep regularly?
Here’s a question… regarding kick/heel flips, or any other flip trick, someone who rides a steep concave and loose trucks…
The extra power they get in their flips due to that more dramatic flick-angle creating more leverage to spin the board faster/harder,…
Is such power lost/negated by the fact that when flicking a deck with loose trucks, that, similar to a flat/less Ridgid deck compared to a steeper/more Ridgid deck, some of that energy put into making the board flip is lost when being transferred from the foots’ “flick” to actual causation of spin, as the deck would need to compress/rock all the way it can until it’s level of resistance to said compression, ever increasing, is greater than gravities resistance to the board going against it. Tighter trucks would transfer energy through all that space/all those components to where it needs to go faster and more efficiently. Wouldn’t it?
Like Irving was saying, I like the comfortable feeling of my feet flat down on the board when I do like kickflips or heelflips, but not gonna lie, full concave kinda improve my tre flips, its just because when you scoop a super concaved board, the board leverage going towards you is like a faster react time, so my flip on a tre flip full concave board is a faster more fluent flip, but Im used to tre flipping mellow ones, so I get primod on full concaved boards a lot lol, and just the landing primo, mello, vs steep, like steep hurts your feet way more, mellow is not as bad, I swear everytime I have skated full concave I roll my ankle, only been 3 times for experiment purposes, but went straight back to mellow lol
Grew up with the PP Welinder Nordic Skull. Awesome board! 30 years later I’m getting on a board again and was gonna go for my original deck. Saw the Old School Ripper in deep concave and was kinda persuaded toward the deep concave. Went for a it and it is very comfortable for me personally. Gripping snd maneuvering is very good compared to a flatter deck. For me anyhow. Happy with my purchase.
dunno, having skated both throught the years n through the late 90’s ...having a zooYork Robbie Gangemi (sp) w a practically vertical nose and then a Real FireHydrant which was super mellow. I like steeper boards for transition and mellow boards for street. seems mellow boards let the trick float more and aren’t as snappy or grippy flicky off the foot.
It's got HELL CON CAVE!
Great video. Keep it up.
ford f150 in the rocket league shop
Land yachts, may have solved issue using a double deck for snow skating and wakeboarding... Logic of pros losing status socially due to removal of preferences for steepness and size. Like big steep pro-decks aren't the reason for division of content of skateboarding. Regarding sponsorship limitations of preferences regarding true costs of manufacturing and business and brands. Especially things that are blank...
Mellow, flat, robust nose and tail. FA decks feel great
FA nose and tail are some of the steepest kicks around. I do love looking down at an FA and they feel great but they are exhausting to get flip tricks to be level. They want to rocket kick flips or the deck wants to push too far forward in the air. Mellow decks like April stays level and under my feet more
You guys should have David around more to drop knowledge on technically titled videos. He breaks it down 👌
Only shaped boards i like is krooked , anti hero & santa cruz
I like a steep nose, medium concave and kind of a chill tapered tail with about 2 fingers of flat behind the back bolts. The older i get the more i appreciate having a less steep tail. Doesnt take as much effort to snap
What I've seen recently is that steeper concave is coming in more with the rise of brands like Hockey and FA so with that Is the new generation of skateboarders taking to the steeper concave. The skate world has mostly been mellower concave for decades and with the rise of these new companies I'm expecting a lot of change in the board shapes that are more common today
2 years later and there are egg shaped boards and surf looking style and all kinds of shapes that people are skating so this forecast was spot on
Idc about steep vs flat. Ima in between guy. But when THE NOSE AND TAIL ARE SQUARE INSTEAD OF ROUNDED ... god that errrks my nerves
Love the subtle lofi music during the shesh you guys rip!! Keep shredding!
you dont need a steep kick to pop high! you just dont. i'm drinking wine. .. but fuck gang. replace your bushings and manage your shit. wheel base super matters. tightness of trucks changes how your 360 flips work! dont suck
I have been living under Zachs bed recently
i like to use boards with mellow concave and steep kick like almost , verb , kfd boards it help me to pop because of steep kicks and control my tricks by flat concave
Zach is fire 🔥🔥🔥
I love steep boards 😩😩
I cannot stand flat decks
i started skating powell minilogo in 2004 because they were flat and beautiful. steep is shit and unecessary. also give me those twins kicks baby.
ayooooo i'm in South Carolina visiting family. got any good park recommendations???
Coming from a steeper concave to a mellow, learning curve is so hard for me, no pun intended
Bro same everytime I skate a mellow board I primo on my tres
Is there an inbetween so I get better pop but also better flicks n stuff
Does anyone know wat deck has the most mellow nose and kicker . Name 2 please ❤🙏🏾👊🏾🌱
Flip skateboard decks have the best concave , like legit best skate decks around !
You gotta get Jon D and David together for a Vid
Are most of all the boards mellow concave
All these videos its like everyone everyone knows is just by default nasty at skating. Is it the water out there or what
How bout baker, chocolate, girl? Is that mellow?
Im watching your videos for quite a time... As many other channels. I wanted to let you know that your intro theme is so damn motivating and makes me feel good 😁👍
Ps: was it your intention that only your channel has these intense (in a good way) "pop sounds" when hitting for a Trick?
Man that park is perfect, we just don't have shit like that where I live.
smooth outro... i like em mellow
Great video! I think I prefer mellow but I could skate either, not shredding anything too gnarly
love this type of videos keep it like this
Ok I have a question for the progress daily team is it weird that I like to flip my board so I have a wide tail and a slimmer nose
I means it’s kinda weird but also not like totally insane. People like what they like
Yes. It’s weird. Just get a double nose deck. Eventually you will need that big nose in front for grinds
deoes anybody know any brands with very steep kick decks
I've met zach chris and andrew kinda got a list going down to meet all of em
Just go to Bluetile semi-often and you are sure to see Irving, he’s sold me like 4 decks at this point
no baha blast sponsor this vid?
Zach's moustache on point!
Me with a fish tail shaped board with no nose concave
I like my board size to be 8.25 to 8.5 with mellow concave and kicks. Makes flipping my board easier.
nah dont sit down keep skating. no steep concave skaters here. you fools wouldve hated the H Street decks from the 90s Matt Hensley etc.
I like seeing Foster skate more in these vids too 👌
Ive never ridden a board with steep concave but one online source suggests that they can make your feet tired after a long riding session. Has anyone found that to be true?
My skateboard has flat deck like straight flat...just like skateboard without decks
So is it possible to ollie on it?
That one guy looks like a dirty Val Kilmer
What’s the guy in green shirts @ he’s really good
Place looks like preschool for skaters🤭
There are decks with super steep concave yet mellow kick-tail angles/pitch. Like my current set up for instance. In regards to the tail anyway. 8” width and in that axis/dimension, the amount of drop in the center from the edges, is one of the most dramatic I’ve seen in a while. Uncomfortably steep for most. Yet my tails’ pitch is a cool 17-18 degrees. The nose is steep however. 20-21 degrees. I feel like that’s pretty average for nose pitch though. Even in flatter decks. Concave and kick-pitch, while being directly correlated, are not always and don’t have to be mutually inclusive of one another.
green pants kinda video
oh and I prefer mellow decks for both skating and fingerboarding
Does anyone know what the name of the intro song is?
LISTEN FLAT BOEARDS OVER CONCAVED ANYDAY
I definitely like a flatter board like the Powell Flight 243 or the Real Ishod Twin Tail.
I used to love the steepest board I could find but now I like the medium everything only because it’s a madness to me to where I think it’s the most well rounded somehow lol 🤷🏽♂️😂 makes sense if you think about it but I doubt it actually happens Ben matters. I am the same when I go shopping for a skateboard deck if I see that it’s mellow I can’t ever commit to buying it because I had the worst experience 20 years ago on my friends world industries flat ass no concave board and I couldn’t skate it for shit and that’s never left me. I want to try one again to see if anything is different this time around but spending money that I don’t have on something I don’t know I will skate to death just scares me to death 💀 too broke too so something that crazy 😆
I prefer a steep board
I had a mellow Baker board but it lost its pop quicker than any other board I've had.
I like a mellow board with risers😊, and extra loose trucks with hard bushings. Shout out independent and the 8.5 too
blank decks are an insult to the people, who actually care about skateboarding, they may be cheap, but they hurt the skateboard industry players, who actually care about the community, the artists, and the skaters behind the brands.
no more blank decks! support your skate community and buy decks with graphics, instead of cheap crap!
Yeah we all understand that. These are samples from a board manufacturer. We were testing the quality so no need to waste ink on a graphic promoting nothing. I haven’t seen a blank board in the wild in at least 5 years.
What is full Concave mean!
Honestly the kicks aren’t the issue, its all about concave and wheelbase, preferably steeper and longer, respectively. Oh and no shovels lol
I can tell you. Deep concave board's or the best. I'm a heavy guy. And it works for me even when I do lose this weight deep concave for life
I am a mellow concave myself, but its just what I'm used to, I feel boards have gotten more concaved over the years, I actually used to skate a concave when I was younger, and it was like pretty much the equavlent of mellow these days, I just come from the late 90s early 2000s board were flatter lol, but now a days I ride a mellow concave either 8.25, or 8.38
Yes but what board brand has Steep decks??? skatshops dont exist in my area and it isnt listed in the details of any online shops i have seen, i only ever see the dimentions.... would love to have both but dont want to end up with another identical concave already have an 8 and an 8.25 and the only diffrence is one is a shmidge bigger
Blind has quite deep concave.
At my age now i prefer mellow decks..way back in d 90s i dont mind a steep deck..great skating, very inspiring. How old is that guy? Still doin alright
Please keep doing the hip-hop and funky kinda music in more videos PUHLEASE
why arent symmetrical boards more popular. i loved the ones i had in the 90s early 2000s they became hard to find now i cant find them at all
the casual 'ye dude it sucks u right off' was funny as fuuuuck
invite Jared more often