Battle of Pavia (1525) - Italian Wars DOCUMENTARY
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- In this animated historical documentary, we will cover the famous battle of Pavia that was fought in 1525 during the Italian War, between France and its king Francis I and the forces of the Habsburg monarchy led by Charles de Lannoy.
Ever since the end of the Hundred Years' War in 1453, France and its ruling Valois dynasty was looking for ways to consolidate its holdings and conquer new lands. The rising Habsburg dynasty was often in their way. The rivalry between these dynasties continued for centuries and caused countless conflicts, among them Italian Wars, Thirty Years' War, War of the Spanish Successions and many others.
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Sources:
Berth Hall - Weapons and Warfare in Renaissance Europe: Gunpowder, Technology, and Tactics
Angus Konstam - Pavia 1525: The Climax of the Italian Wars. Oxford: Osprey Publishing
Новый солдат №180 - Битва при Павии 1525
Production Music courtesy of Epidemic Sound: www.epidemicsound.com
#Documentary #ItalianWars #Pavia
Show notes:
0. If a particular video is popular, we have a reason to produce more content in that era, so sharing the videos you like is a good idea. :-)
1. This is one of the most frustrating periods of the world history, things change fast and it is extremely difficult to explain everything. But, as usual, we will be here to answer any and all of your questions, don't hesitate to ask them.
2. The main problem of the period is the Holy Roman Empire. Technically all of Germany, Austria, Northern Italy (not Venice), Benelux, Provence, Czechia, Slovakia, probably other places that I can't remember right now, were part of the empire. But practically it was a conglomerate of states and different princes within it might support the emperor or fight against him. In the case of this video, by 1520s Spanish Trastamara and German (Austrian) Habsburg dynasties had the same heir - Charles I of Spain, and he ushered a centuries-long era of the Spanish-Habsburg rule. Technically, Spain wasn't part of the Holy Roman Empire, but practically the same person ruled Spain, Austria, Benelux and other territories.
3. Most of Burgundy was part of the Empire, but it was ruled by the French lords for centuries at that point, Charles the Bold was a cousin to Louis XI, for instance. Culturally both Burgundy and Flanders (Benelux) were French, but as they were also part of the empire, that made the wars over it inevitable. You can trace these wars all the way to the WWII.
4. We keep calling the forces of de Lannoy "Spanish", and that is historically correct. At that point, the Habsburg dynasty shifted from "German" to "Spanish", and often the seat of power was in Spain. Still, it is worth mentioning that majority of troops in both armies were from Germany, Italy, and Switzerland, with the exceptions like the tercios and gendarmes, of course. This particular battle was a mess on a tactical level, so the famous tercios were not able to fight in their preferred style, but, as promised, we will cover the evolution of these armies.
5. The alliance between the French and the Ottomans is fascinating, we will talk about it more in our Ottoman series.
can you make battle of mohacs 1526 hungary vs ottoman empire
Kings and Generals do some videos on Asian wars.
Irish war of independence please :)
Kings and Generals question why didn't the English declare a reconquest war against France and aid the habsburgs surely it would've benefited them
TheAztecGamer England had just come out of a civil war, a new dynasty had been created, so the country wasn’t ready for a large war like this. Also, Henry VIII was starting to fall out of line with the Catholics, so an alliance would have been weak at best.
Italy: "Alright guys, let's have some peace and stability, cmon"
*Austria,Spain,France and Ottomans joined the game*
EU IV intensifies. :-)
@@KingsandGenerals EU gives worse PTSD than vietnam war, anyways great video
Thanks!
Andrea Basile, oof!
@@Luiz43447 Italians aren't Romans.
Fun fact: Richard De la Pole, nephew of Richard III and Edward IV and last member of the House of York to actively seek the throne of Throne of England died in this battle.
Abdul Jalloh
Not much I think, the Tudors had been legitimised by Henry VII and had managed to stabilise the kingdom so far.
@Abdul Jalloh he had a claim but Henry Tudor was popular and had in fact united Lancaster and Yorkshire under his house. De la Pole never really tried to contest this
Henry VII and VIII didn't let anyone of the house of York live for too long, so they'd have got him.
Damn that’s unfortunate
Not fun for him.
-30% shock damage unlocked from Spanish Tercio.
The first tercios were formed in 1536. There were no tercios at this stage.
@@shererid that's not true bro hahahahaahah
are you joking?
EU4 player detected
Sad that the Italian Wars are mostly unknown... well done on showing a subject like this
Hopefully, we will cover more!
So much history, so little time! Keep up the good work. Will become a patron as soon as I have a stable income.
Yeah sadly, cos its a really interesting war! A conflict that stretched over more than half a century between France and Spain, where there are really unknown epic battles like the battle of Ceriñola in 1502. It really deserves more recogniment!
They are important from a military technical standpoint too. With the Italian Wars it ends the era of the pike and the heavy cavalry, it begins that of the arquebus, artillery and light cavalry.
4:00 Thanks for the connection from a commonly known event (100 Year's War) through less well known circumstances (that time when when the Hapsburgs bracketed France) then firmly setting the subject into this foundation. 'leet intro d00d
4:11 The battle of Bicocca was so one-sided towards the Spanish troops (with more firepower and having the high ground) that in Spanish we say something easy to obtain "is a Bicocca". Really, the Spanish troops only suffered 1 casualty: one soldier who was wounded by a mule.
Podemos URSS that one soldier though...
Would've been a flawless battle if not for that goddamn mule huh?
I always hear that phrase and never knew the story behind it. Thanks!
-It's over Francis the First of France, I have the high ground
-You underestimate my Swiss pikemen
never underestimate the swiss pikes
Now this is the kind of battle I love hearing about. Relatively obscure period, lots of political backstabbing, complex military maneuvers, high stakes.
If it does well, we will make more videos like that. :-)
I think that makes it qualify as obscure if people from only a few countries have heard it and even fewer know what it's about :P
You should love a video on the Battle of Marignano ("the battle of the giants") then.
@@froggymusicman Spain does, but that's kinda obvious
Technically, modern battles are very similar. HOWEVER, due to the advancement of military technology, such military tactics have been simplified. But some have also been more complex.
The size of the war is nearly the size of the hapsburgian chin
Yeah, that thing was massive.
@@KingsandGenerals
Ikr, it was like 2 and 3/8 french inches long
@@gbm.03 that's my dick!
Haha
But still F for Francis I of F
The Italian Wars was one of the most under rated occurrences in history in terms of historical significance, the first great international leagues in european history, the first official state marine force in history, the first integrated fire arms units in history etc.... Here in the U.S. the Italian Wars were never mentioned once in grades 1-12, please Kings and Generals, cover this time period for us more.
I would love to see a series that covers the entirety of the wars 1494-1559
I also think is a shame that the Italian Wars are so less known, but for other reasons.
It was the period in which the Spanish Empire was still on the rise nearing its peak, and for all its importance in the shaping of world history, my country is barely mentioned in historical media. A lot of international movies about the history of England, Italy, France, Germany, Russia and Greece, but never about my country. And even ourselves know little about that period. I wish people were more interested in it.
they aren't they are just ignored in the anglo-speaking world, because of course if the english aren't participating and winning then it's better to not mention
@@JohnnyElRed The 17th century was even better for the spaniards. We kept ruling the seas until late 1700's
The Italian war wasn't even fought by Italians unfortunately. They were a long way from what they used to be during the Roman era
3:53 ''And that made a war inevitable'
And that made the sentence « that made war inevitable » inevitable,
That needs sold on a t-shirt.
War made a war inevitable
and then envoys were murdered
what's wrong?
Spanish Tercios were awesome killing machines on those times. Hope you make more videos about that. Great job!
When the Landknechts were created by Maximilian of Habsburg, he created them as mercenary regiments, to save money in peacetime. Still they had a rule: never to oppose the German Emperor in battle. Francis managed to hire a regiment tho, a "black" regiment of Landsknechts. When the Landsknechts of both sides met at Pavia, the black regiment was killed to the last man for their treason.
I wouldn't call that "treason". They were mercenaries.
Mercenaries, but the emperors own. And as such, they had their own set of rules.
the varangian guard was basically a band of mercenaries. but the byzantine empperors never let them "go" to save money.
so...i'd say is the HRE emperor's fault.
@@KingsandGenerals Yes they were mercenary, but that doesn't mean you can't have a code of honourable conduct.
Mercenaries that are seen as traitors have always a bad ending. Kinda like the Greek mercenaries that fought against Alexander at Granicus.
That moment when you are fighting the spanish but is El Siglo de Oro
feelsbadman
And they have completed quality ideas.
That moment when you are fighting the spanish but you are french.
@@doggerlander that moment when you are fighting the spanish but it's melee combat mainly
@@kyomademon453 Sending horses against spanish tercios and german lanskenettes must be the worst idea ever
As a spanish gotta love this battle 😉
Awesome work
Thanks!
cómo no
*Absolutely Nobody*
Spain in the XVI Century: *𝗖𝗢𝗪𝗔𝗕𝗨𝗡𝗚𝗔 𝗜𝗧 𝗜𝗦*
“Spain”? You mean Castile**
@@Johan_t Nope, I meant Spain.
Read carefully XVI century not XV century.
@@SpanishDio Wtf?? “Spain” doesn’t exist until XIX centuary.
Before XIX centuary everything related to “Spain” is CASTILE.
@@Johan_t Nope. Spain is formed with the marriage of the Catholic Kings in the 15th century. What you´re referring to is the date of our 1st written constitution (1812). Spain existed as a country, at least from 1463, though some experts like to put the date in 1492 (Americas, Granada) or 1512 (annexion of Navarra)
@@alfonsolm2219
No.
The marriage of the Catholic Monarchs in 1469 formed a Personal Union between the Crown of Aragon and the Crown of Castille. That's all.
Spain as a nation state and an actual Kindgom was only formed in the early 18th century with the Nueva Planta decrees.
We could say that the marriage of Isabella I and Ferdinand II was the beggining of the unification of Spain, the first step towards unification. But no more than this.
Les "agradezco muchísimo" el detalle de poner también aquí subtítulos en español... lo de hacerlo en árabe sobre una batalla librada por mi país en suelo europeo, pero no en mi idioma, lo entiende cualquiera. Siendo además una clásica entre las habidas durante la época imperial española qué menos que subtitularla en la jerga de Simbad (esto seguro que debió de pergeñarlo a propósito alguno de ustedes). Siguen demostrando ese "especial afecto" que llevan quinientos años profesando a España y a todo lo español, y digo ésto porque el acento del narrador me suena a británico (el mismo acento del indeseable que le dijo a Parker a propósito de su obra sobre la Gran Armada, Invencible para ustedes, que no le interesaba la realidad histórica sino el uso que Inglaterra había hecho de ella para su propio beneficio; es decir: mentir). Mi lengua, por si no lo saben (lo saben pero les importa en la proporción entre el cero y la nada), es una de las principales habladas en el mundo, literariamente está a la altura de la inglesa (y estoy siendo generoso en la afirmación), e históricamente mi patria no es menos en ningún concepto que la de ustedes por más que se hayan pasado la vida denostándola, eso cuando no mintiendo sobre ella sin empacho alguno (el juicio último es de Stanley G. Payne). No es la primera vez que hacen ustedes esto de omitir en su serie los subtítulos en la lengua de Cervantes, y lo lamento tanto como no lo entiendo por mi condición de español y enamorado de la Historia... porque en otros videos sí los han hecho constar pese a ser batallas libradas por otras potencias (Friedland, por ejemplo). No obstante les felicito por la enorme calidad de su trabajo y les deseo de todo corazón que vendan muchas tazas y camisetas. Reciban un cordial saludo. Allahu akbar.
Are you muslims?
It's fascinating how they still used the pike as a primary weapon during this awesome battle!
You clearly have an agenda. :p
Kings and Generals of course I do
Gustavo II still used it in 30 Years War
The French were using those awesome knights in shiny armor, how else can you stop them besides using long a$$ pikes
Aleksa Petrovic, Wrong. It would last another 100 years.
François was a very interesting king. He began as the traditionnal knight-king, and ended up as a great patron of the arts. Since these are both things that cost a lot of money, one could say he was the most Valois of all the Valois kings, a notoriously spending dynasty.
Yeah, despite these wars, his rule was a net positive for France and for the arts.
If you ever got the chance, go see his castles on the Loire, they're beautiful ! And there's his salamander sigil carved everywhere.
In France, he's mostly known for the battle of Marignan, wich was somewhat arbitrarily chosen as the battle for kids to know about.
And since you're here : love your stuff ! Keep it up !
I am more into Charles. Francis was a womanizer, and also one of the most untrustworthy king in s long line of kings that made life hell for Spain. Charles, on the other hand, was despite various affairs loyal to his queen and when she died promised never again to marry. He did his best to establish compromise with the German protestant princes, tried to protect the native Americans and was one of the greatest warrior kings in history (imo)
@@acdragonrider He wasn't really good as Spanish king, I mean, what he did was starting the tradition of getting Spain into troubles to save Austria's butt. He was good on his own but for Spain itself, that was a nightmare, a waste of resources for nothing.
Podemos URSS of course but it wasn’t his fault either. He inherited all of those territories and it became his responsibility once he became emperor to care for them all. Therefore he had to defend his imperial territories against the Turks who were invading and against France. Francis I would not have been peaceful and kept betraying his word anyway. He also had to deal with the german princes who he tried to peacefully coexist with at first. The pope also often got on his case so yeah.
I don’t blame him for what turned out. As for Spain, I feel it makes sense why he couldn’t devote most of his attention to domestic affairs. Much less Latin America. He tried. He passed and supported the new laws making Indian slavery illegal. Imo you don’t see that everyday. As for enforcement, I don’t see him being able to focus on everything so he missed what was going on. He had a vision of empire and being likecharlemagne and I personally love it. Others may not. The Spanish/Hapsburg empire was imo though doomed from the start. It could not hold out forever and was overloaded. What I admire is that it held out for a while and the Spanish armies had a reputation for resilience and determination
I am a classical archaeologist and I find your videos to be not only informative, but also of very high quality. Thank you so much for giving the breakdown of the battles AND the background.
Thank you for watching, good sir! We would love to have an archeologist on our team - if you ever want to collaborate, just send us an e-mail: info@kingsandgenerals.net
The French/Hapsburg rivalry would define European history for the next 400 years.
Pretty much! Napoleon fought the same war in Italy. Germany wanted Alsace and Lorraine because of that. Belgium was constantly invaded due to the Burgundian inheritance.
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So it ran until the 1920s? I think you added a century by mistake.
@@petergray2712 yes WW1 was on the 1920s so it's pretty exact
Just another chapter in the Franco-German rivalry. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me to learn that the French and Germans had been going at it since before the Roman empire took over.
@@antoniosessa6521 very small scale it has but it was tribes not national as they wouldn't exist for a long long time yet. Still it's nothing new to many places around the world just both France and Germany were so big it basically dragged the rest of Europe in to their fight.
I think that the Battle of Biccoca would be a very good video demonstrating the superiority of the newly incorporated arcabuz (guns) and mobility over the static pikes of the Swiss mercenaries. In the battle it is said that only one spaniard died (and that due to a kick from a donkey, not by the enemy) and 3.000 swiss pikemen died. It was a turning point in warfare. Even today in modern Spanish a good bargain is called a "bicoca."
Just as messy as Italy’s politics
Probably worse. :-)
Do not worry, you 'll make things simple in just a year....(1796-1797).
Napoleon I Bonaparte This battle beginning of new alliance and new era. After Suleiman's hungary campaign Charles V released Francis. Ottoman-France alliance started. Ottoman and French navy consolidated west mediterranean sea took many cities from habsburgs and their allies.
Napoleon I Bonaparte We are still mad at you for ending the Serenissima at Campoformio
1804
This must have been frustrating to do! Anyhow, good job on it. As usual, top notch quality from a top notch channel. A big WELL DONE to all you guys and gals at Kings and Generals, you deserve it.
Thank you, my friend!
Greetings from Pavia!
Greetings. :-)
Medieval 2:Total War
"The Battle of PARviAHH"
the battle is not that difficult, but the most chaotic in my opinion
@@satrio303 yeah it's pretty fun, but I was making fun of the way the narrator says it in-game
i'm quite hazy on narrator line, i only remember the ridiculous french and scottish general speech before the battle
The rash French Shuster attack us head on! Let’s give them a dose of imperial pike and sharp shot!
The French King freed! Is he really spinless or doe he had a plan?
My friends have told our Spanish allies a severe blow!? We must brace a new wave of enemies!!
The King of France lies dead on the field. Now let us finish off the rest of his frog man and enter Pavia as hero!
We have destroyed one of French artillery positions. Now destroy the other!
This one will go down in the records of the empire as one of its most magnifcent victories!
All the French cavalry are defeated! Now we must kill their infantry!
[Whiled playing hispanic music in the plain of background]
@@satrio303 it's the easiest Historical Battle, I think
Wow..italian war series
..awesome work Kings and Generals
Thanks!
I definetly was waiting for this first time pike and shot tactics were used and one of first modern wars
More on the way!
Not the first time, really. Earliest famous time, but already at the 1494 war the Spanish used pike and shot tactics to defeat superior French forces in Napoli.
You wrong... Maybe Battle of Cerignola in 1503 was the first... One of the first open fielded battle in the European history, where the combining of the gunpowder weapons and pikes ("pike and shot") were the main victory keys...
I just love the Battle of Pavia, and thank you Kings and Generals for making a vid on it.
Very well explained and all, but just a thing: the Kingdom of Navarre was part of Spain since 1512.
That is true. Part of Navarre remained independent, but most of it was incorporated into Spain, we failed to show it properly.
Nah long live the Catholic kings! Por Castilla y Aragon!
PowderedWigLouis At least Charles had more morality and nobility than any of the other kings of the time combined.
PowderedWigLouis Protestant ass hats lol? First off the army that sacked Rome consisted of mercenaries who were to impatient to wait any longer for their salary. Second of all, Charles was more moral than his counterpart Francis. He rarely expected his enemies and the pope sided with Francis in an illegitimate war against Spain the most loyal and catholic state in Europe. I will defend it to the last so rest your case. I don’t care what you say, I will never support a king who fucks women on a daily basis and has many mistresses especially when married, kills Protestants without warning and breaks his promise at every treaty of peace that Charles fully intended to keep.
PowderedWigLouis and for the record Charles had no intention of sacking Rome. He freed the pope as soon as he could and when clement admitted that he sided with Francis a king who can’t keep his word and formed alliances with “infidels”
A very interesting and intricate period of history, thoroughly told. I love these videos!
Thank you very much! Can I ask you to send me an e-mail? I want to ask something in private. info@kingsandgenerals.net
"Of all things there remains to me only honor and life which is safe."
- Francis I in a letter to his mother, Louise of Savoy, during his captivity.
(Also the origin of the popular misquote "All is lost save honor".)
Great job! I'm assuming Marignano will be eventually covered, but will other events such as the Battle of Fornovo and the League of Cambrai, or that the French invasion of Italy in 1494 were supposedly among the first to incorporate cannons into their army be discussed as well?
So much to cover in this period. :-)
Looking forward to them! ;-)
Spain's glorious victories are what I am m most interested in
Funny, because Francis I was a wife cheater, a promise broker and he ceded a city to the infidels. A truly man with no word or honour at all.
I love to see the Gendarmes, my most favourite military unit in the whole history of mankind(sorry Polish hussars, you are placed in 2nd), charging with their awesome Lances, crushing and stabbing the swiss pikemen which was invincible.
Too sad that they didn't do the same in Pavia... What a tragedy...
They should conquer the world with their Lances led by the most honourable men in history as their leader, the great knight Bayard(I wish he wasn't shot by that damn hell thing) and the Knight-king.
If so, I could speak french instead of korean! 한국어 싫어요
Felt so excited when I saw this was uploaded. Last week I mentioned that the Battle of Pavia is the battle I’d like to see most when K&G asked us to answer some questions about the channel, so for it to be the next video had made me so happy.
Thanks for watching :-)
I was waiting for this episode, I love the Italians wars period. Great video K&G, keep it up 👍🏽
We will, thank you!
France vs Central Europe - part 1 of 100 - Episodes may be staring: Austria, the Germans and in the East Russia, and to the West, Spains and then to the North, England!
Yeah, it never stopped. All the way to the WWII.
More like Spain against the world. The spanish soldiers at some point (pretty much the whole XVI century) were fighting against the ottomans, the french, the british, scottish and irish, the swiss, the swedish, the dutch, the barbary pirates, and the indigenous in the whole american continent... So do not complain, please...
@@antediluvian9144 like france
@@leroiarouf1142 Spain is better, they don't surrender too easily like the French.
The Italian Wars are a fascinating topic. Well done K&G, if anything only for approaching such a period. Kudos!
Yeah do more about tercios and italian wars. Like Ceriñola, Garigliano, Gravelines, St-Quentin and many more 😊
Much more on the way! :-)
St Quentin always gives me emotion every time I read it
The pope is Clement VII, not XII. Anyway great video
Add "doesn't know Roman numerals" to my resume. :-)
Just halve it laterally
You have failed in getting the roman numeral right......TO THE RACK WITH HIM
Thank you K&G for this excellent video! I truly cannot wait for future Italian Wars videos. The Borgia’s, the Sforza’s, the Medici, and of course the Habsburg and the Valois... it doesn’t get more political than this.
“There is no avoiding war; it can only be postponed to the advantage of others.”
-Machiavelli
Thanks for sponsoring it :-)
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Really cool video, the narrator keeps you interested in the story and the visuals clarify very well what's going on. Very good job on this one!
Thanks for watching, there will be more!
Again you guys attempted to upload right before my shift. Little did you know I have the day off and can watch immediately!
YES, Another Kings and General video. Time to dine like a King and listen like a General.
Good :-)
@@KingsandGenerals Its the Legend himself! I want to know though, how do you put out so many videos?
I rarely sleep, I guess :D
Interesting trivia : this battle ended up giving the french word "lapalissade" (the equivalen of truism, when you say obvious things with too many words), due to a song about the deceased general La Palice.
"Alas, La Palice is dead
He fell before Pavia
Alas, if he wasn't dead
He would still be alive now"
(Hélas, La Palice est mort
il est mort devant Pavie
Hélas, s'il n'était pas mort
Il serait encore en vie).
Alberto Barreto - No, it does not. You mean "paliza" with a Z and comes from "palo", stick, meaning beating someone with a stick. The word that entered Spanish from this period was "Bicoca" from the battle of Bicocca, meaning something very easily obtained.
There is even an Italian version of the Chanson de La Palice:
E' morto il signor de La Palice
E' morto alla battaglia di Pavia
Un quarto d'ora prima che morisse
La vita ancor non gli era andata via.
(M'sieur de La Palice is dead
He died at the battle of Pavia
a quarter of an hour before he died
life still had not left him)
In Spanish we don't have any term asociated with this particular battle, but from the period we have these:
-A Bicocca in Spanish means "a valuable prize obtained easily", alluding to the victory at Bicocca: both easily obtained and very important.
-"Ir a la porra" (literally: "going to the club") is like "going to hell", it alludes to the fact that the prisons in military camps were signaled by a "porra" (club).
And the song originated because someone misread the epitaph of La Palice which said that if he were still alive he would still be envied, the words were similar enough to be confused but as it is true today as it was back then most people do not bother to check twice and thus the redundant, and wrong, expression came to be.
German Landsknecht song "Jörg von Frundsberg führt uns an" is about the general of the german landsknecht detachements at pavia (jörg von frundsberg)
Thankyou! Enjoyed very much! Always enjoy the channel! Have a good morning.
FINALLY... i have been waiting for this, since i subscribed.. thank you, and good job!!.. the italian wars are mostly unknow, but are a very important part of the history.. "the empire where the sun never sets"
Thanks for your patience :-)
French scouts basically handed the win to the Habsburgs
Yeah, a bad showing.
French seem to be prone to gallant fight, wins against all odds, and also to making the stupidest and most ridiculous mistakes.
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Yes!! One of my favorite periods in history! I love Renaissance Italy and its politics/art/warfare. More please!
Man I love this period, Landsknechts, Swiss Mercenaries, pike and shot and all that! I'm very excited to learn more about the Italian wars. I've tried to on my own in the past, but I got lost in all the reading, and it easily gets confusing. Thank you guys!
Another well explained video, Keep up the great work!!
One of the Most decisive yet still one of the most underrated wars in Europe.It Shaped Military and Political History of Europe For Generations to Come.
Yep, it was a fun battle to research.
I was looking forward to see a video about the tercios
They were here but didn't use their usual tactics, due to the fog and unclear tactical situation. But we will talk about them more in the future.
@@KingsandGenerals Also "Tercios" was just the name of the military unit, which was equivalent in role and size to a modern regiment (in fact some elite Spanish regiments today are called "Tercios", like the "Tercio de Armada" [marine landing brigade]). What made them so fearful was the combination of both a good doctrine mixing pikemen and firearms (arquebusiers earlier, latter replaced by musketeers) [with the pikemen forming a wall of pikes and the arquebusiers killing the enemy and disbanding their formations] and a well trained and equiped core of veterans. The Spanish army came from the traditions of Castilla and Aragon, countries that favoured the use of infantry over cavalry, and the tactics and main strategies came from the experience of the Granada war and, mainly, from the 1st Italian war.
Bro I know I am asking much but hear me out, these video's are seriously addicting. We demand more because we NEED it!! Keep up this fantastic piece of art.
Doing our best. :-)
Wonderful page with extraordinary videos !!
Thanks for such wonderful content.
3 Guarantees in this life:
1) Taxes
2) My wife's spending
3) A wicked awesome upload from Kings and Generals when I log in on Monday Mornings
Cheers!
For centuries, the strategic dilemma of France has been the following: either increase its land forces to win against the continental states, and then lose the seas for the benefit of England. Either increase its fleet to compete with England but risk weakening against the continental powers. Prussia, Austria, Poland or Russia had almost no navy. England had only a weak infantry (after 1453 it could only intervene on the continent with the support of coalition). For its part, France had to make efforts in both areas.
Yep. It was the only country that attempted to rule both over the lands and the seas with Spain, basically because it had to deals with rivals on both fronts. And like Spain, it wasn't able to do so, despite being richer and much more populated.
I wonder what the world would be like today, had Louis XIV been more interested in colonizing north America and less interested in protecting the north-east border of France (which was, in any case, undefendable, as shown in 1870, 1914 and 1940). A state-sponsored emigration/colonization policy in Nouvelle France could have changed modern history big times.
Yes, with the difference that Spain tried to gain in both areas for a shorter time and that its land border was shorter and less exposed.
If France could not properly defend its northern border in 1870, 1914 and 1940 when it always managed to do it (except in 1814 but it was under attack from all over Europe), it's because, for the first time, it was attacked by the whole "Germanic bloc". Formerly it was only Prussia, Austria or Saxony that was to be countered (and their armies were often composed of Italian, Walloon or Spanish mercenaries). On the contrary, this time, it was about fighting a great and densely populated German nation, endowed with great strategic depth, a thriving industrial economy and strong warrior traditions. From then on, this challenge went beyond the capabilities of France alone. To succeed, it needed England, Italy, Russia, and so on.
As for Louis XIV, let's say that by many sides he was a man of the past. He expelled the Protestants in 1685 at the same time that, in the Netherlands or England, people were beginning to talk about the possibility of religious coexistence.
They should have invested more time researching how to use their forces correctly in the field, though.
France always has had problem with her northern border. Always. French kings have tried to secure it, but never could. From Louis IX to Louis XIV, they all tried to push it further. And that was never enough. Most of the invasions of France always came through her northern borders. English, Germans, Dutch, Austrians, Spanish, they all knew France's weakspot was an invasion from Flanders.
Podemus URSS Who? Why? France waged and won countless battles and wars. Probably more than any other european country (though it's also one of the oldest countries in Europe, so that helps). They didn't need to learn anything.
@@ArmandDupin And lost even more battles and wars. For example, this battle (and the battle of Biccoca, and basically any Spanish victory on the period) were lost against a numerically inferior foe thanks to stupid deployments. In Bicocca they tried to charge uphill against entrenched arquebusiers and artillery, getting massive casualties for nothing (literally, the only Spanish death on the battle wasn't even due to combat). Here they got their cavalry BETWEEN the enemy and their own artillery, even after four earlier battles that showed them that cavalry wasn't able to break trough the tight pikemen formations. Unlike Spain, they lacked an unified command and a standing proffesional core. Heck, even when the Frenchmen won against Spain they usually suffered twice as many casualties. France often won thanks to having enormous population that could be drafted, and relatively small supply lines. While Spain had less population, supply lines so overextended we even say, when something is difficult, "it's harder than sending a pikemen to Flanders", as the supplies and reinforcements had to crose half the continent. And yet they still managed to kick a lot of Frenchies asses when they arrived.
Thank you a lot Kings and Generals, I asked you months ago for Italian wars, and you're doing it =)
You can be sure that we will eventually cover everything. :-)
haha I can't wait to have everything then =P (I'd love to have the "first hundred years war" with Bouvines for example)
Perfect video. You need to make one about the Battles of Cerignola and Garellano. The last of the medieval battles, and the first of the modern age
Finally a Spanish battle,nice one!
Thanks for watching!
"Spanish". It was German, Spanish, austrians and other troops of the Holy Roman empire.
Look at encyclopedias, this was not a Spanish victory. It was an Habsburg victory. Charles V also controlled the Low Countries (where he was botn), the HRE and Austria. The Habsburg generals in this battle were a Flemish and an Italian. The troops were 30% spanish and 70% germans.
@@InfoRome keep dreaming, the the heart of the empire was spain. And charles V maybe born in germany but of Spanish descent, almost all his life he lived in Spain, and the central pillar of his troops were always made up of the Spanish thirds.
as that of very little of those events mentioned the whole world was Spanish. Not German or Austrian, Spanish. be sure.
you cant say germans
germany didnt exist for another few hundred years
also spain controlled the low countries thats why the netherlands celebrates their independence from Spain
Great quality!
Thank you!
Love the channel and REALLY love your attention to detail and historical accuracy. Just a reminder: you guys said you planned on doing a more in depth documentary/series on the Italian wars, are there any plans currently on providing this?
The Italian Wars are a great topic of exploration and analysis. I can't wait for the next installment.
The italian wars would be the perfect setting for the next TOTAL War SAGA
Agreed. Even a full "Pike & Shot" game would work.
Maybe from 1415 to the end of the thirty years war, or the Siege Of Vienna. You’ve got the end of the hundred year’s war, Italian Wars, war of the roses, conquest of america, the ottoman conquests; in short a lot of potential for dlc.
In the battle of Biccoca the spanish only lose 1men.
And not even to the enemy but he got wounded by a mule...
Ese empecinado bueno
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very nice episode looking forward for the next
Thank you very much!
Thanks for the great video!. I really love this period of the history of Europe
Thanks for watching. :-)
I enjoyed this video I love the Italian Wars and the rivalry between France and the Holy Roman Empire. I was wondering if you are working on a series dealing with the Thirty Year War of 1618-1648?
Thanks! Not at the moment, but it is planned.
Sweet and as you know I am always looking forward to your videos! So many historical battles and wars that I am glad you are presenting them :)!
We've got the Valois in the left corner the Habsburg in the rigt corner as they try to outmarry and outwar each other.
For centuries!
What a complex battle, awesome video man
Thanks for watching. :-)
Please continue with this series Kings and Generals!
Hey. Love your videos. Could you please make a video on the Battle of Cannae? I feel like we don't learn much about Carthage or Hannibal Barca in history classes. It'd be amazing to see a video from you guys about it.
Thanks!
The capital of Aragon was Zaragoza, not Barcelona. Also, the capital of Castille was not yet Madrid.
At the time it was Barcelona. The triple crown...
Great stuff yet again. Keep this up u will have your own t.v series in the next 5 to 10 years.
Great job on a great time in history. Keep up the good work.
We will, thank you!
Hi! I forgot to mention in the questionary that i am very interested in the great siege of malta!!
It will be covered in our Ottoman series!
I would love to visit Visconti Park today.
Yeah, it sounds fascinating!
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Great video!
Thank you very much!
I would have loved to have known more about this time in history. Nice job to whoever made this video a reality.
Thank you Kings and Generals for your remarkable work!
Would you like the idea to do a video on the siege of Vienna in 1683 as well? Clearly, that's a fascinating story and a decisive moment for european history.
Btw: Today was the 335th comemoration of the lift of the siege :)
Ah! One of the most awesome battles of the age! I am a huge golden century Spain fan.
Plz do the complete Italian wars!! Very great videos! Thank youuuuu
Great work so many things i don't about this period. Continue the excellent work
We will, thank you!
A little fact : The picture of Suleiman at the end of the video is his earliest known portrait, made in his first years of reign and probably by one of Bellini's (he made the famous portrait of Mehmed 2) students.
Yeah, it is also the portrait, where he looks the youngest.
Next battle of Lepanto please
It will happen!
magnífico trabajo, enhorabuena.
Great job guys!
I wonder how the peasants felt living in the disputed areas. Having your livelihood and nationality constantly changing all because some greedy Kings kept fighting
Not good. Since most of the troops were the mercenaries, it was difficult to control them, so raiding and pillaging were a norm.
It did not change their "nationality" - that wasn't really a thing back then. What changed was the guy who collected taxes and levies.
One of the most famous books in italy talks about the plague and the spanish domination in milan,I Promessi sposi written by alessandro manzoni and basically new laws were randomly enacted every week,there was a rebellion in Milan because the food was running low,basically a real mess
I think this is a huge thing that raised Machiavelli's ire as well. In the Prince, pretty much at the end, he calls for a powerful ruler to unite Italy and remove "barbarian tyranny".
Although nationalism arguably wasnt fully formed as a concept in this period I think Machiavelli displayed some proto nationalist sympathies. I believe are large part of why he advocated a strong and feared ruler was because he believed a united Italy under such a person would be able to repel the constant invasions fueled by French and Imperial ambitions.
quoting an old italian proverb that was born in those times 'Franza o di Spagna purchè si magna', wich means 'France or Spain, as long as we eat'. This was first said by one Florentine ambassador when thinking about to whom ask for help. They didn't really care, didn't matter who was in charge, it just changed to who your taxes were sent too
Sometime,if I ever tired of fantasy show on netflix, I came here for the real story of humanity
I did not know anything about this. thanks for the documentary!
Thanks for watching!
Favorite time period, more shows like this please!!
Considering!
Nice to see a battle that shows the military might of the Spanish. I feel they are currently the most underestimated historical power. It makes sense in that their final rival was the American "Empire" (Phillipines, Puerto Rico, Pacific Marianas, Formosa/Taiwan/Taipei). The winner writes history and they've written out the Spanish as a historical power.
Reminder that during the American Revolution, the Spanish Empire was actually still the largest on Earth, while the British Empire was rather small (just the 13 colonies, the East Coast of Canada, some Carribean islands and small parts of India).
Size doesn't really matter that much though. Amongst other factors, population for example is probably more important.
Size is the main thing the British Empire is remembered for (the late 19th century empire that is).
And believing the 1776 one was huge is the main reason Americans think their revolution was impressive
I agree but it doesn't change the point.
As for Britain, to be fair they left a big legacy of innovations (the industrial revolution for example) and had effectively the biggest political power in the world after Napoleon's defeat, until the end of the 19th century (though the Germans were increasingly influencal at that point). I admit they never had a very strong land army though, even at the peak of the empire's power (thus that land army was even weaker during the era of the American Revolution). The dominance of their navy in the 19th century though, was more absolute than any navy before that.
The American has never told that they are/were an empire.
Yeez this is the good stuff
We'll see!
A Kings and Generals video a day keeps boredom away.
Great topic to make a video thanks kings and generals
Thanks for watching!
Kings and Generals I just loved the topic My history knowledge is increased exponentially thanks
3% battery left.. i should put them to good use
We will not forget your sacrifice. :-)
Maybe the french have the best calvary in history. But the spanish have the best unit that counters that particular unit
I remember this battle being briefly mentioned in the tv show the tudors. Nice job of explaining what really happened
I loved that show, especially early on. :-)
I know this battle for so long... But I never had a complet vision of the battle like this. Great job.
Thanks!
Santiago!!!!
When I was this early the Roman Empire still existed...!
Quite early then. :-)
More videos on the Italian Wars please!!
Notif squad
Thanks for being part of it!