I don't know what it is, but Terran mirror match is the most interesting mirror match to me. Zerg vs Zerg feels too much like a generic numbers game. And Protoss vs Protoss feels too gimmicky with who lands better storms or disruptor shots and what not. Terran vs Terran feels the most interesting to me. Am I the only one?
But playing a TvsT yourself is nerve wrecking at least for me. Scouting every details to make sure your opponent don't cheese at you and finding the right position and counter unit is very stressful.
Ravens are criminally under utilized in all matchups Imho. Against Protoss Interference Matrix against the splashy boys(Colossi and Disruptors) is invaluable. Also Anti Armor Missile against Gateway heavy armies is amazing too. Against Zerg Ravens makes clearing creep significantly easier and saves a ton of Orbital energy which can be used for more mules much earlier. Also Anti Armor missile is amazing against Zerg, be it Roaches, Ultralisks, Corruptors, Brood Lords or even Infestors. You can also use Auto Turret to harass Drone lines, something to do in between clearing creep and engaging in major battles.
I think 'barracks' is already plural... 'barrack' is a verb - to provide soldiers with accommodations or a building/set of buildings a collection of such accommodations = 'barracks' so I think its interchangeably singular or plural!
Thors do a crapton of damage. Punisher Payload for Air actually compliments Siege Tanks more than it is given credit for. Sure, you can also have Vikings considering the Servos upgrade makes Vikings just instantly transform as well. But, the Range on Thors anti air cannon is nuts now. Also their ground attack is two attacks at a mechton per hit.
Dream seemed to be struggling with production: he was floating gas almost the entire match, despite being down in supply, and slipping on that upgrade was really bad. It seems like Cure pretty much just ground him down with more relevant APM, which is kind of awkward on a pro-level.
ThePeacemaker848 banshees are super fragile. they really do nothing if the enemy has any idea how to play. banshees do shine in certain situations tho.
Not really. It's that right now Zerg is super easy in lower tiers, so getting wins with them makes in unbalanced and frustrating. Once you actually hit the skill wall, it's a very tall wall, and that's when a lot of players start dropping out.
@@diamondleaguedisaster But battlecruisers are harder to counter from my experience. Get enough battlecruisers and nothing can beat you. Whenever I build thors against protoss I win the first engagement and by the time I reach his base he rebuilds a supply of zealots and from then on turns the game in his favor. Against zerg few broodlords and my thors become absolutely useless, or zerglings. Haven't tried against terran. Am I doing something wrong?
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW Sounds like you need some blue flame -Hellbats- Heckbats; they roast Zealots, Broodlings and Zerglings. It's actually what I was most impressed with this game, how well they sponged siege fire. Since they're light they only take 40 instead of the 70 armoured and because they're chunky it hit's fewer units, 135hp is an awkward number for siege tanks (4 shots to kill) and all for 100 minerals which helps balance your mineral and gas with your gas heavy Thors (look at end of vid, Dream is floating 1000 gas because bio is mineral heavy) Edit: oh and they're fast so as you push out they can reinforce quickly. Watched 13:05 at half speed, thats 12 Heckbats and 2 Thors (the 3rd got disabled) just walking through 5 tanks and 20 supply of bio through a choke point.
@Cgi Dude I defend with planetary fortress The way it works against terran is since ravens cost 100 minerals and 200 gas you can afford to build a lot of orbitals. I get something like 8 orbitals in the main to kill off all SCVS and with a lot of starports instantly trade the ravens into 200 supply battlecruisers. I do it really fast and most people aren't good at the macro game so they don't react well. I let him attack and teleport the BCs into his main to get all of this production. I am sure a good player wouldn't allow me to get to that point but you would be surprized how bad people are when they have to play against something they haven't seen
So just curious, you say you are not a pro player and have no chance to match there skill level. Why should anyone care what you would like to see a pro player do during a match? Can't you just commentate on the match and keep your non-pro opinions to yourself?
Finally Terran win .
dude spoilers D:
It’s a tvt and I would still put my money on Zerg.
I love the Thor idea! He couldn't get air dominance so he got rid of his opponent's!
He came down on dream like the hammer of THOR
I don't know what it is, but Terran mirror match is the most interesting mirror match to me.
Zerg vs Zerg feels too much like a generic numbers game. And Protoss vs Protoss feels too gimmicky with who lands better storms or disruptor shots and what not.
Terran vs Terran feels the most interesting to me. Am I the only one?
terran just feels the most natural since their spells are not make belief. They are not alien.
probably due to higher commitment demanded on attacks and defense and greater effect of micro.
TvT micro is exciting, unlike PvP micro which is painful to watch.
But playing a TvsT yourself is nerve wrecking at least for me. Scouting every details to make sure your opponent don't cheese at you and finding the right position and counter unit is very stressful.
I know I like TvT the most but that is cuz of the Death and destruction that always happends in these matchups :D
3:14 I like the addition of the graph
The best part about this game was that there were no overpowered infestors :D
Or just zerg in general....
Ravens are criminally under utilized in all matchups Imho. Against Protoss Interference Matrix against the splashy boys(Colossi and Disruptors) is invaluable. Also Anti Armor Missile against Gateway heavy armies is amazing too. Against Zerg Ravens makes clearing creep significantly easier and saves a ton of Orbital energy which can be used for more mules much earlier. Also Anti Armor missile is amazing against Zerg, be it Roaches, Ultralisks, Corruptors, Brood Lords or even Infestors. You can also use Auto Turret to harass Drone lines, something to do in between clearing creep and engaging in major battles.
What I like about TvT, is that they tend to use every single terran unit on the roster. As opposed to Ling/Bane ZvZ or whatever protoss do.
cept ghosts lol
No BCs
"or whatever protoss do" 😂😂😂😂😂 That's a Terran talk right there brother
Thors are the coolest unit in the game, I wish we saw them more.
Thors and Battlecruisers both....
I`m HeavyMetal....
I think 'barracks' is already plural...
'barrack' is a verb - to provide soldiers with accommodations or a building/set of buildings
a collection of such accommodations = 'barracks' so I think its interchangeably singular or plural!
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That was a great game! Love Cure's use of Thors!
Thors do a crapton of damage. Punisher Payload for Air actually compliments Siege Tanks more than it is given credit for. Sure, you can also have Vikings considering the Servos upgrade makes Vikings just instantly transform as well. But, the Range on Thors anti air cannon is nuts now. Also their ground attack is two attacks at a mechton per hit.
I love watching TvT, its honestly one of the most fun match-ups from a viewer standpoint.
Dream seemed to be struggling with production: he was floating gas almost the entire match, despite being down in supply, and slipping on that upgrade was really bad. It seems like Cure pretty much just ground him down with more relevant APM, which is kind of awkward on a pro-level.
You mean he lost a lot of SCVs which made him extra low on minerals?
Yeah
Please cast more TvT's!
I'd absolutely love a 40k mod for Starcraft :p
Barracks can be one building or a complex. It is both singular and plural.
Love how lowko knows the players background
11:00 he should have rebuilt a couple of banshees. Banshees seem really good in TvT, don't need many, just a couple.
ThePeacemaker848 banshees are super fragile. they really do nothing if the enemy has any idea how to play. banshees do shine in certain situations tho.
Dream: I have an army
cure: we have thors
Advice of the year: Get Good by Lowko
this is the match i am looking for! beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeautiful!
This is like watching space WW1, Verdun meat grinder
The Broodwar skin for SCVs is the reason Cure won
classic 👌
Blizzcon prediction vids Lowko!
Lowko the plural of barracks is barracks
I have to say I hate mirror playing mirror matches. I especially hate playing TvT but very interesting to watch.
Are these new/old skins for the SCVs? They look like the Starcraft 1 scvs
The skin was in the latest (or 2nd latest) Warchest, and yes that is the exact look of the classic SCV
I love your channel so much btw
Currently, Cure is my favorite Terran to watch
Cure is like Rambo going down the ram. Superb game. Just like the yesterday PvP
What a curious game!
Finally a match where a terran wins.. Wait, what?
When terran fights terran noone wins :(
This was TvT and people were still putting their money on zerg
*Le me notices new video* Oh cool, let's watch some pro SC2 today.
*Video begins at 100% volume* HELLOOOOOOOO EVERYONE!
*Sounds of ears exploding*
Remember the days Terrans went mass Raven in the late game? :D
its really sad that games like starcraft, melee, tf2 etc are dying. just too hard for most people
Not really. It's that right now Zerg is super easy in lower tiers, so getting wins with them makes in unbalanced and frustrating. Once you actually hit the skill wall, it's a very tall wall, and that's when a lot of players start dropping out.
Dude. Thors are absolutely brutal.
I think there are Zerglings in Sea Salt
There is no way that Dream could beat Cure.
Barracks is correct but it can be tricky to pronounce. Think of it as Barrax and not Barrackses
I want to see BC vs. BC
Cure is awesome!
What a game boys....
Can't believe Terran won
There is no cure against Cure.
8:43 14 scvs going down, no 50!
Geez loosing 36 scvs in less than a second
he cleary said "Fifteen"
A non identical TvT matchup, huh
No BCs? Alright, I can settle with Thors.
@@diamondleaguedisaster But battlecruisers are harder to counter from my experience. Get enough battlecruisers and nothing can beat you. Whenever I build thors against protoss I win the first engagement and by the time I reach his base he rebuilds a supply of zealots and from then on turns the game in his favor. Against zerg few broodlords and my thors become absolutely useless, or zerglings. Haven't tried against terran. Am I doing something wrong?
@@RAiNfORAiNbOW Sounds like you need some blue flame -Hellbats- Heckbats; they roast Zealots, Broodlings and Zerglings. It's actually what I was most impressed with this game, how well they sponged siege fire. Since they're light they only take 40 instead of the 70 armoured and because they're chunky it hit's fewer units, 135hp is an awkward number for siege tanks (4 shots to kill) and all for 100 minerals which helps balance your mineral and gas with your gas heavy Thors (look at end of vid, Dream is floating 1000 gas because bio is mineral heavy)
Edit: oh and they're fast so as you push out they can reinforce quickly. Watched 13:05 at half speed, thats 12 Heckbats and 2 Thors (the 3rd got disabled) just walking through 5 tanks and 20 supply of bio through a choke point.
@Cgi Dude I can reach master with mass ravens into battlecruisers against terran and hellbats against zerg.
@Cgi Dude I defend with planetary fortress The way it works against terran is since ravens cost 100 minerals and 200 gas you can afford to build a lot of orbitals. I get something like 8 orbitals in the main to kill off all SCVS and with a lot of starports instantly trade the ravens into 200 supply battlecruisers. I do it really fast and most people aren't good at the macro game so they don't react well. I let him attack and teleport the BCs into his main to get all of this production. I am sure a good player wouldn't allow me to get to that point but you would be surprized how bad people are when they have to play against something they haven't seen
@Cgi Dude Look for ketroc on youtube
The Swarm Wins!
Hey Lowko, you talk about Cure, and you're not nobody! Be nice to yourself!
Gnarly dude
Barraxes. Barraxes? Barraxes… 0_0
Just watched dream awesome game from beastyq, do more on match commenting on dream lowkow
THOR = BEST ALL ROUND T VS T UNIT
Dream too much gas...
dude i hate Terran as a race, but GOD DAMN do i love Thors !!!!
Not bad, lower leagues are more fun tho, lol. Thanks
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if i see one infestor, i swear
thrid!
SPOILER! The protoss player won.
Terran to op..... wait...
Hello efffryone!
"fourth"
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7th
13th comment!!!
Fourth!
First!
On paper mech should win but Bio can wins in reality
Edit:mech won lol
So just curious, you say you are not a pro player and have no chance to match there skill level. Why should anyone care what you would like to see a pro player do during a match? Can't you just commentate on the match and keep your non-pro opinions to yourself?