The first jet fighter to fly with the engine in the fuselage was the de Havilland Vampire, which flew three months before the first P-80. It was this aircraft that started the trend not the P-80. The P-80 saw service first because de Havilland didn't have the production capacity at that time.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 More that the Vampire effectively has the engine exhaust at the aft end of the fuselage while the P/F-80 has a tailpipe to the aft end of the fuselage. You needed that because you needed to engine near the center of gravity.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 No argument there. I will argue that the tailpipe was more of a challenge for designing the overall engine installation as it adds some extra concerns, though. I've seen that in other aircraft.
It didn't help the USAAF brass also took the whole if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball approach. Basically they thought if they could fly piston engine planes they could fly jets.
This video starts off with an error, technically the Bell P59 was the USAF first operational as well as the first American jet to fly and enter operational service. 60 of the P59's were built and by the time the P59 went into training service the more advanced P80 was coming off the production and the P59 were held in training for operational jet service !!! get it right guys....
El LOCKHEED F-80 fue el primer caza a reacción reglamentario en la UNITED STATES AIR FRANCE. Tuvo el récord mundial de velocidad. Se lo había arrebatado al Gloster Meteor Mk 4 . El F-80 fue el primero de una familia de cazas que llega hasta el F-94 . Contando con el entrenador avanzado T-33 famoso , usado por todo occidente para calificar pilotos de combate de cazas a reacción hasta los 70'. Exelente el primer caza a reacción F-80 . Estrella fugas !!!!
question: did the mig 15 and the f80 not have gun cameras? for everyone who doesnt know: a lot of WWII era fighters had one or two cameras that where activated upon trigger pull or with a switch on the steering yolk that documented their targets. there are mkany gun camera vids on youtube btw. animarchie history has some if you want to find some quick but yeah: did those two birds over korea lack them?
Hey, Darkness, I have a situation that I need to address. While I do love your vids, and I've even let people know that you provide facts, when I left a comment about you on a video from the channel Train of Thought, I got some responses saying that a lot of the info that you give is false, and that you don't cite/link your sources at all. Please address this issue to me, and all of us. I really do not want to have another situation where I watched videos from people who I thought were trustworthy and good but turned out to be heinous freaks that need to be reported and that I never watched their videos again.
@@HistoryintheDark These people specifically talked about when you talked about the Mason Bogie Locomotives in the past, and that some of the information you gave us about them was completely wrong. Here's the link to the video & comments: th-cam.com/video/DeWAmA7n5wI/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzTz2Fpn9loLH40OhV4AaABAg.A1-lPsorx7_A10Xmir8x3S
My source is literally in the description of the very video they’re complaining about. So…maybe don’t listen to people that just say outright false things about me.
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I saw the P-80 and the ME-262 in the Smithsonian about 25 years ago. Both of them absolutely beautiful aircraft in completely different ways.
While not one of my more favorite jets, I do like how the Shooting Stars generally looked.
The first jet fighter to fly with the engine in the fuselage was the de Havilland Vampire, which flew three months before the first P-80. It was this aircraft that started the trend not the P-80. The P-80 saw service first because de Havilland didn't have the production capacity at that time.
The P-80 was the first such with a tailpipe.
@@MrCateagle you mean one that comes out of the rear of the fuselage, just like that of the DH Vampire?
@@neiloflongbeck5705 More that the Vampire effectively has the engine exhaust at the aft end of the fuselage while the P/F-80 has a tailpipe to the aft end of the fuselage. You needed that because you needed to engine near the center of gravity.
@@MrCateagle that's just too much hair splitting. Both aircraft had the exhaust going to the end of the fuselage.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 No argument there. I will argue that the tailpipe was more of a challenge for designing the overall engine installation as it adds some extra concerns, though. I've seen that in other aircraft.
My memory of the F84 is mostly from the movie "This Island Earth" where Rex Reason takes off for a nonstop trip to California
Man that's a cool plane, I cant believe Lockheed experimented with jet-powered aircraft as early as they did! Very good video!
Try the Germans - they've experimented with jets as early as the 1930's.
Lockheed T2V SeaStar is basically a naval trainer version of the Shooting Stars.
La NAVY tambien utilizó algunos T-33 .
The F-80's biggest problem in Korea was because Britain also exported their jet engine TO THE USSR! WTF GUYS WHO'S SIDE ARE YOU ON?
Yeah, like they had to go up against meteors and mig 15s
And all the world will love you just as long.... just as long as you are!!!!
The T33 was a great trainer. The T-33 cousin of the P-80.
It didn't help the USAAF brass also took the whole if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball approach. Basically they thought if they could fly piston engine planes they could fly jets.
Something the successor entity quickly realized wasn't the case
Of course they could. They just has to adapt to the different characteristics of the engine, which was not a big deal.
En las Fuerzas Aéreas de muchos países se pasaba del North American T-6 al Lockheed F-80 .
Inlet duct collapse was rather predictable since fast-moving air causes a drop in static pressure.
Could you please make a video on p47m
Correction: Naval variants of the P-80 were in use at least until 2077. Unknown if the Enclave continuation government utilized them after.
This video starts off with an error, technically the Bell P59 was the USAF first operational as well as the first American jet to fly and enter operational service. 60 of the P59's were built and by the time the P59 went into training service the more advanced P80 was coming off the production and the P59 were held in training for operational jet service !!! get it right guys....
El LOCKHEED F-80 fue el primer caza a reacción reglamentario en la UNITED STATES AIR FRANCE.
Tuvo el récord mundial de velocidad.
Se lo había arrebatado al Gloster Meteor Mk 4 .
El F-80 fue el primero de una familia de cazas que llega hasta el F-94 .
Contando con el entrenador avanzado T-33 famoso , usado por todo occidente para calificar pilotos de combate de cazas a reacción hasta los 70'.
Exelente el primer caza a reacción F-80 .
Estrella fugas !!!!
You left off the T2V-1 Seaster derivative.
question: did the mig 15 and the f80 not have gun cameras? for everyone who doesnt know: a lot of WWII era fighters had one or two cameras that where activated upon trigger pull or with a switch on the steering yolk that documented their targets. there are mkany gun camera vids on youtube btw. animarchie history has some if you want to find some quick but yeah: did those two birds over korea lack them?
El F-80 tenia su cámara de filmación de disparos de la ametralladoras en la parte del carenado de la toma de aire izquierda.
Hey, Darkness, I have a situation that I need to address. While I do love your vids, and I've even let people know that you provide facts, when I left a comment about you on a video from the channel Train of Thought, I got some responses saying that a lot of the info that you give is false, and that you don't cite/link your sources at all. Please address this issue to me, and all of us. I really do not want to have another situation where I watched videos from people who I thought were trustworthy and good but turned out to be heinous freaks that need to be reported and that I never watched their videos again.
I mean I literally always cite my sources so that's just outright wrong.
@@HistoryintheDark These people specifically talked about when you talked about the Mason Bogie Locomotives in the past, and that some of the information you gave us about them was completely wrong.
Here's the link to the video & comments: th-cam.com/video/DeWAmA7n5wI/w-d-xo.html&lc=UgzTz2Fpn9loLH40OhV4AaABAg.A1-lPsorx7_A10Xmir8x3S
My source is literally in the description of the very video they’re complaining about. So…maybe don’t listen to people that just say outright false things about me.
The Mexican Air Force Still Uses The T33 Trainer Variant.😮😅
NO . Los últimos T-33 operativos en el mundo los tenia la Fuerza Aerea Boliviana . Retirados en 2016 .
11:00 F-84?
Wrong. One saw combat in Italy. It did ground support
You sound potential history but with a bad mic
Now it just hangs out giving free makeovers... Wether they are wanted or not.
lullubell the name of bogarts m3 tank in sahara
Narration is very VERY annoying!