Wow! What an amateur mistake. I'm so embarrassed. I guess that's what happens when I'm thinking and talking at the same time. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Yes, but the huge influence is how often do you turn the polisher off before turning it back on again. The longer the tool is off, for example you eat your lunch, the battery RUN TIME can be over an hour. But this is not the same as the kind of torture testing I do. At the end of the day, cordless polishes are a good match for some people while others will prefer corded tools. This describes me. I love the cordless rotary, but only once-in-a-while do I use either of the cordless orbital. But my style of detailing is I want to go as FAST as I can. Thank you for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Nice presentation ,,Im still using the beast even though that bad boy gets me tired - no nonsense machine - I have yet to do a single stage beautiful paint …
Good descriptions - a no-nonsense machine. Gets the job done and if you like, can get the job done FAST. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Hi Mike love your videos. What's your thoughts on your arm speed and number of passes vs slower arm speed and less passes as well. I know there's a time, place and reason for doing both. When it comes to polishers my preference is 1. rotary 2. forced rotation 3. random orbital. I'm with you, pad rotation and oscillation matters. jiggling DA's are WAY too slow
Great question. Here's the facts of the matter. If you slow your arm speed down, you will tend to get more correction to the surface that pad is currently spinning over the top of. The thing you have to do is avoid going to slow and creating too much heat to the paint you're buffing. My own observation over the decades has been, once the product is spread out and the speed turned-up, people have a tendency to match their arm speed to the perceived high speed of the polisher and thus move the polisher too fast. And of course, different tools, pads and products will cut faster and/or slower, and thus create heat faster and/or not create heat faster. To your point, when trying to remove deep defects and/or working on HARD paint, if you slow your arm speed down, you'll tend to get better and faster paint correction. It is a DISIPLINE however that even yours truly must pay attention too. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
@@mikephillipsrealworlddetailing Thanks for answering, really appreciate it. Yes I agree and I've been a bit too slow sometimes in my earlier years well before I knew about heat being a problem. Yes your right so many do move machines too fast as well as too bigger areas.
Really interested in the Flex polisher set, but also torn between this is Rupes 15/21 Ibrid. Is it just the video audio or do these have that noisey shrill?
15/21 is definitely a finisher. Going from a milwaukee to the cordless rupes. I regretted selling it. It only lasted 6.5 vehicles. They’re plagued with problems. After my replacement showed up it was doa. Forced to get another Milwaukee. I noticed it definitely had more power and correcting ability. Especially when paired with the forge 8.0 the forge 6.0s were meh over the rupes cordless. But man did it wake up after throwing the 8.0’s. My first impressions with the flex dual action. Rupes smooth, rupes quite, and powerful. Not as light as the rupes. Maybe .5lbs Though I was using a 6.0 stacked battery. No battery wobble like the Milwaukee. All and all build quality and reliability definitely felt solid. Time will tell how reliable they are. The life time warranty another good deal.
@ Thanks. Hopefully I can get my hands on one. I tried to reach out to flex to see what their return policy is if I’m not satisfied with one but didn’t get a response.
These cabinets are made by NewAge - and yes, that's one word. Very nice quality, excellent shipping and assembly is easy. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Yeah the thing about battery powered polishers is they're never going to replace the FULL-ON, NEVER DOWN benefit you get with a corded tool. To be honest, the only cordless polisher I used myself and show in my classes as the default polisher is the rotary polisher. Cordless orbitals are good for LIGHT correction but not for a seriously hacked-up car. Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
@@mikephillipsrealworlddetailing many thanks Mike for your reply and for your real test that has been so accurate. Is a pleasure to see you polishing. Have you tried the corded or even cordless Shinemate, DA and rotary? I have both tools from Rupes (impossible not to have for an italian like me) and Shinemate. The EX620 DA Shinemate 15 is a good beast for many, even to cut..
@@domenicobizzarro839 - Sorry to say, I have not used any of the tools you mentioned. Someone at ShineMate reached out to me a number of years ago asking me if I would like to test out their tools. Not sure where they went? Hopefully moving into the future, I'll get some of the ShineMate tools and also MaxShine tools to use and compare to FLEX, RUPES and Griot's Garage. Mike
Thanks Michael. I'm gonna pick one up. ~ Your favorite student
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Thats 1 o’clock strait up, but who’s counting. LOL Thank you for the video, much appreciated!
Wow! What an amateur mistake. I'm so embarrassed. I guess that's what happens when I'm thinking and talking at the same time.
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Great video! Im willing the bet the stacked 6.0 would get you to the 34 to 40min run time.
Yes, but the huge influence is how often do you turn the polisher off before turning it back on again. The longer the tool is off, for example you eat your lunch, the battery RUN TIME can be over an hour. But this is not the same as the kind of torture testing I do. At the end of the day, cordless polishes are a good match for some people while others will prefer corded tools. This describes me. I love the cordless rotary, but only once-in-a-while do I use either of the cordless orbital. But my style of detailing is I want to go as FAST as I can.
Thank you for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Nice presentation ,,Im still using the beast even though that bad boy gets me tired - no nonsense machine - I have yet to do a single stage beautiful paint …
Good descriptions - a no-nonsense machine. Gets the job done and if you like, can get the job done FAST.
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Hi Mike love your videos. What's your thoughts on your arm speed and number of passes vs slower arm speed and less passes as well. I know there's a time, place and reason for doing both. When it comes to polishers my preference is 1. rotary 2. forced rotation 3. random orbital. I'm with you, pad rotation and oscillation matters. jiggling DA's are WAY too slow
Great question. Here's the facts of the matter. If you slow your arm speed down, you will tend to get more correction to the surface that pad is currently spinning over the top of. The thing you have to do is avoid going to slow and creating too much heat to the paint you're buffing.
My own observation over the decades has been, once the product is spread out and the speed turned-up, people have a tendency to match their arm speed to the perceived high speed of the polisher and thus move the polisher too fast.
And of course, different tools, pads and products will cut faster and/or slower, and thus create heat faster and/or not create heat faster.
To your point, when trying to remove deep defects and/or working on HARD paint, if you slow your arm speed down, you'll tend to get better and faster paint correction. It is a DISIPLINE however that even yours truly must pay attention too.
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
@@mikephillipsrealworlddetailing Thanks for answering, really appreciate it. Yes I agree and I've been a bit too slow sometimes in my earlier years well before I knew about heat being a problem. Yes your right so many do move machines too fast as well as too bigger areas.
Really interested in the Flex polisher set, but also torn between this is Rupes 15/21 Ibrid. Is it just the video audio or do these have that noisey shrill?
15/21 is definitely a finisher. Going from a milwaukee to the cordless rupes. I regretted selling it. It only lasted 6.5 vehicles. They’re plagued with problems.
After my replacement showed up it was doa.
Forced to get another Milwaukee. I noticed it definitely had more power and correcting ability. Especially when paired with the forge 8.0 the forge 6.0s were meh over the rupes cordless. But man did it wake up after throwing the 8.0’s.
My first impressions with the flex dual action.
Rupes smooth, rupes quite, and powerful. Not as light as the rupes. Maybe .5lbs
Though I was using a 6.0 stacked battery.
No battery wobble like the Milwaukee. All and all build quality and reliability definitely felt solid.
Time will tell how reliable they are.
The life time warranty another good deal.
@@faze2183Would you happily use the Milwaukee again are they good
@ Thanks. Hopefully I can get my hands on one. I tried to reach out to flex to see what their return policy is if I’m not satisfied with one but didn’t get a response.
@@Rob_Cleans_Cars in my opinion. Flex’s customer service is very good. It comes down to who you purchase it from and what their return policy is.
What brand are those cabinets behind you? Thx
These cabinets are made by NewAge - and yes, that's one word. Very nice quality, excellent shipping and assembly is easy.
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
Two Bars battery from fully charge After less than 15 minutes buffing with DA doesn t seem impressing, don t you? In a 24v with 10 Ah battery.... 🤔
Yeah the thing about battery powered polishers is they're never going to replace the FULL-ON, NEVER DOWN benefit you get with a corded tool. To be honest, the only cordless polisher I used myself and show in my classes as the default polisher is the rotary polisher. Cordless orbitals are good for LIGHT correction but not for a seriously hacked-up car.
Thanks for watching and commenting. -Mike Phillips
@@mikephillipsrealworlddetailing many thanks Mike for your reply and for your real test that has been so accurate. Is a pleasure to see you polishing. Have you tried the corded or even cordless Shinemate, DA and rotary? I have both tools from Rupes (impossible not to have for an italian like me) and Shinemate. The EX620 DA Shinemate 15 is a good beast for many, even to cut..
@@domenicobizzarro839 - Sorry to say, I have not used any of the tools you mentioned. Someone at ShineMate reached out to me a number of years ago asking me if I would like to test out their tools. Not sure where they went? Hopefully moving into the future, I'll get some of the ShineMate tools and also MaxShine tools to use and compare to FLEX, RUPES and Griot's Garage.
Mike