okay but for ads can we know if they're verified safe for our accounts or not spefically if rito will ban us for it, cause i feel like I've seen people mention it being cracked down upon with overwolf apps
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I was expecting a video on this guys for so long, it really works! I advise everyone to try Fiora support, it's very strong and fun, ever since i started playing it i managed to climb from plat III all the way to gold IV, and I'm sure i can keep climbing once the small vacation riot gave me ends and i can go back to the ranked grind :D
@@Zancibar i think it is irly funny, maybe not the best sup but if ur good fiora and ur team wont run it down cuz u picked fiora sup i think it can work
@@jamiebruner8463 LB alone is disgusting to play against, but playing against five of them is ultra cancer, that's why I always ban it when URF or OFA is in the game.
Essence reaver + Navori Quick blades is another fun build. Also I think it’s funny the support ends up split pushing damage assassin, and the adc goes the more supportive build 😂
A few months ago I spammed Fiora sup just to ruin the enemy adc game, but my team tilted me a lot so I stopped lol. Watching these offmeta videos washes my soul and makes me believe that I'm not crazy about the weird picks.
Every video I get a comment saying the champ is broken -> high elo. Perhaps not all champs are broken and the players are good. Or perhaps every champ is broken
I tried fiora support many times before this and slowly learned ways of making it work... I often went damage into a hullbreaker and avoiding team entirely. Often inting in lane to rush my items and split to hopefully end game before my inting made enemy team win (I had about a 40% wr I forget how many games)
The runes are labelled incorrectly for the two build cards in the last chapter, Magical boots is labelled "Triumph," Cosmic Insight is "Coup De Grace," etc. All of them are like this except for the primary page options on ADC Fiora.
But how does Fiora deal with enchanters? A lot of engage supports rely on their CC, while enchanters do have CC i feel like they can hold it against her and should be quite problematic for her.
ADC is happy to scale against them/wait for mistake and counter their cc. Supp fiora can force fights and force them to use cc. I think enchanters certainly are the best counter to this, but yes there are options in any matchup. I would expect like a 60% winrate vs tanks, 40% vs enchanters - but tanks are more common -> climbs.
On this note: if Seraphine doesn't use e-2, but rather w-2, she can probably win 2v2 fights against either Fiora pick- even without R, especially if you have exhaust and aery/guardian. Easy to predict cc isn't a thing for Janna either if she's not an idiot; range+speed advantage to your side. These Fiora picks seem to be better at countering immobile adcs and melee tanks in particular (rakan can max q or e and play for unkillable teammates). I think the hardest counterpick is Sona with the w-aa cycling builds _(exh, guardian,_ mana, hp+shields, swifties) to make you do no damage without any hard cc needed; speed advantage too. Both exh/w-aa basically makes any r-target never really die and then the Fiora is a paperweight. Sona can also _force_ the 5v4 fights and objectives well with her team-speedboost and R, so the splitting is somewhat countered.
There is no easier matchup for fiora than seraphine according to the adc, so maybe but I think likely not. Sona definitly wouldnt be able to be parried other than ult, but then unfortunatly you have a sona as your support - so their adc is going to get killed before lvl 6 no matter what as she cant peel
@@HappyChimeNoisesThough they wouldn't get that much pressure in lane, makes me think why they don't go Sona APC more often, seems like a no-brainer. Who needs an ADC when your side has sustain, movespeed, damage amps and all-around utility for days (Sona + Tank/Enchanter/Mage support) Sona Seraphine, Sona Lux, Sona Soraka, Sona Taric, Sona Velkoz, Sona Karma, all seem really busted.
Nerfed when using on minions but unnerfed on camps. So theoretically double, but in reality I guess you could say it's just 'normal healing' from camps and low heal from minions.
No joke i recently said that fiora could adc and played a couple games of it, starting essence into stormrazor. However i went navori for my mythic, i will try with radiant!
But how fiora adc do to against sona/kench or garen/yummi? They have no hard CC, no defend AS so W maybe useless in this scenario? Even then she can't kill sona quick by sona's heal, yummi is untargetable, garen/kench seem hard to deal with?
I tried over 50 champs on botlane, the problem isn't the champs, the problem is the XP. Whats the point of being 7/0 Yasuo or 7/0 Fiora while being level 6 meanwhile enemy mid is level 9, enemy top level 8 enemy jungle level 8. XP os a huge issue. Sp try at your own risk, dont do so just because you watched this video
Of all the reasons why a pick doesnt work, I honestly think this is the most stupid one. When someone asks me in soloqueue how my pick works since Im always levels down, I simply tell them; I will not answer why the sky is blue. Level is simply not THAT relevant.
You always have to upload on the only days I get to play ranked? T_T Can't wait to see my bot lane run it down later today on a 100% skill check pick on an off role
Fair point. I assumed it would be similar to the tierlist where 50+ picks were talked about at once. But likely will focus on single picks from now on anyway as this was a rare opportunity :)
@@HappyChimeNoises yeah fantastic content regardless! And I don't know how it necessarily could have been done better. Maybe two separate videos released at once?
Lol this champ has never been balanced. Turns out that giving a champion %hp true damage is a problem regardless of requirement. Oh, don't forget the parry stun that also works as a mini exhaust.
I did have the ADC Fiora in one of my game, I trusted her but the team started flaming right from the champ select. In the end, we did win but definitely not thanks to the fiora x)
Ngl i would hate having the fiora supoort on my team if she takes charge of an entire side lane xD Thats sapping one of your solo laners out of the xp they want in a sidelane.
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okay but for ads can we know if they're verified safe for our accounts or not
spefically if rito will ban us for it, cause i feel like I've seen people mention it being cracked down upon with overwolf apps
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could you link the adc fioras presentation?
@@bringthefallsee comments
I was expecting a video on this guys for so long, it really works!
I advise everyone to try Fiora support, it's very strong and fun, ever since i started playing it i managed to climb from plat III all the way to gold IV, and I'm sure i can keep climbing once the small vacation riot gave me ends and i can go back to the ranked grind :D
You had me on the first half, not gonna lie
@@Zancibar i think it is irly funny, maybe not the best sup but if ur good fiora and ur team wont run it down cuz u picked fiora sup i think it can work
I imagine an all for one fiora against these guys look scary
I'm an LB main and back when clubs existed me and the boys in the LB club got together for one for all
It was nasty!
@@jamiebruner8463 LB alone is disgusting to play against, but playing against five of them is ultra cancer, that's why I always ban it when URF or OFA is in the game.
The baus would never lose that lane
my brudda blackpink would fuck him up
my g blackpink would easily beat him
@@ReTrinityMy g, it was a joke because the Fiora support ints for gold and kills
@@thepapavulture8322 nah it was a joke bc the baus is has an insanely high wr against fiora as sion
@@5nip3r56I love and hate the matchup because so much of it is just a game of chicken with riposte
Essence reaver + Navori Quick blades is another fun build.
Also I think it’s funny the support ends up split pushing damage assassin, and the adc goes the more supportive build 😂
Lol
Rito:Now Fiora can kill invisible totems with her q.
Community: She is now support then 🤔
Umbral glaive ghost fiora to run through jungle and 1 shot a trillion wards lol
Very High Risk with a High Barrier of execution, a fun and balanced pick
Very Normal Sentence with a High Strangeness of capitalization, a weird but intriguing decision
After seeing this youtube video I'm ready to main support fiora in bronze.
A few months ago I spammed Fiora sup just to ruin the enemy adc game, but my team tilted me a lot so I stopped lol. Watching these offmeta videos washes my soul and makes me believe that I'm not crazy about the weird picks.
Are u diamond na?
40 minutes online, i just had fiora adc inting my game, thanks for that
Legend
@@HappyChimeNoises After your vids, I always see a surprising amount of new people with an inting off role pick in ranked xd.
So glad to see this video, I am an avid fiora support player and I think more people should play it!!
haha it was you in the ARAM i played. you said i would know when this vid would come out. keep up the good work!!
Great vid! you forgot to change the names of the minor runes for fiora support. it might confuse people who don’t know the rune icons 😬
I was thinking recently that i miss fiora, but didnt know how it would fit into support. Now i know 😈
If u are in my game i will find your family
@@eliaselkadaoui699 Can you find my alcoholic father? He owns my family money, ty.
HappyChimeNoises: *drops new content*
Me: Time to perma ban Fiora for the next few days
i played with blackpink fiora a month ago in low master. he absolutely ran us down.
get rekt
MY GAMES ARE RUINED, RICKY WHEN I CATCH YOU RICKY
8:23 The Minecraft music during this clip caught me off guard LMAOO
So you're saying the support builds a damage mythic and the ADC builds a support mythic?
Heyo! Im curious if you're going to do a video on PekinWoof's recent off meta climb to challenger?
finally! more melee adc picks that are melees! I love these esp Jax and Morde tysm ^^
Fiora support sounds very similar to karthus support, I like
"I'm going bot" "B, b, b, but you're the Grand DUEList!"
"nah dw fiora is balanced" --proceeds to get GM with fiora support
Every video I get a comment saying the champ is broken -> high elo. Perhaps not all champs are broken and the players are good. Or perhaps every champ is broken
@@HappyChimeNoisesEvery champ is broken, it’s the only way the game is balanced.
@@gcstroud yes but ksante is way too broken so its not balanced
@@gcstroud thats dota 2, there is def weaker champs in league than others
the editing is really well done with all the memes. Good job brother
Can see error in the final rune page 14:43 where the labels aren't matching the icons on the first strike page
Oops
Video on Pekinwoof coming? He should be the face of off meta with his off meta to challenger climb
I tried fiora support many times before this and slowly learned ways of making it work... I often went damage into a hullbreaker and avoiding team entirely. Often inting in lane to rush my items and split to hopefully end game before my inting made enemy team win (I had about a 40% wr I forget how many games)
I always thought about it, but I never thought some madman would actually follow through
Tagged him two days ago while playing Lucian, that thing is scary as hell ngl
You know, this is one of the only chime vids I genuinely looked at and said to myself, "Yeah, absolutely not surprised."
Is crit Olaf still an S+ tier off-meta pick? If so, which build and runes should you go?
Conq
Really fun vid, HappyChimeNoises!
imagine these 2 guys get ingame with potent 3 fiora mains in 1 game
2 in 1 banger of a video!? Love it!
Love how Blackpink first went Esports and then ranked with that pick
The runes are labelled incorrectly for the two build cards in the last chapter, Magical boots is labelled "Triumph," Cosmic Insight is "Coup De Grace," etc. All of them are like this except for the primary page options on ADC Fiora.
1:12 why is there a gangplank named green apple?
wheres the citrus 😥
I played with the guy you made a video on lol, i played with doctor ricky yesterday
But how does Fiora deal with enchanters? A lot of engage supports rely on their CC, while enchanters do have CC i feel like they can hold it against her and should be quite problematic for her.
ADC is happy to scale against them/wait for mistake and counter their cc.
Supp fiora can force fights and force them to use cc.
I think enchanters certainly are the best counter to this, but yes there are options in any matchup. I would expect like a 60% winrate vs tanks, 40% vs enchanters - but tanks are more common -> climbs.
On this note: if Seraphine doesn't use e-2, but rather w-2, she can probably win 2v2 fights against either Fiora pick- even without R, especially if you have exhaust and aery/guardian. Easy to predict cc isn't a thing for Janna either if she's not an idiot; range+speed advantage to your side. These Fiora picks seem to be better at countering immobile adcs and melee tanks in particular (rakan can max q or e and play for unkillable teammates). I think the hardest counterpick is Sona with the w-aa cycling builds _(exh, guardian,_ mana, hp+shields, swifties) to make you do no damage without any hard cc needed; speed advantage too. Both exh/w-aa basically makes any r-target never really die and then the Fiora is a paperweight. Sona can also _force_ the 5v4 fights and objectives well with her team-speedboost and R, so the splitting is somewhat countered.
There is no easier matchup for fiora than seraphine according to the adc, so maybe but I think likely not.
Sona definitly wouldnt be able to be parried other than ult, but then unfortunatly you have a sona as your support - so their adc is going to get killed before lvl 6 no matter what as she cant peel
Unless it's lulu they just die when she gets close
@@HappyChimeNoisesThough they wouldn't get that much pressure in lane, makes me think why they don't go Sona APC more often, seems like a no-brainer.
Who needs an ADC when your side has sustain, movespeed, damage amps and all-around utility for days (Sona + Tank/Enchanter/Mage support)
Sona Seraphine, Sona Lux, Sona Soraka, Sona Taric, Sona Velkoz, Sona Karma, all seem really busted.
you have an edition error in timestamp 14:43 , but also good video, ths is amazing to prove in iron 4
How does Fleet Footwork give double healing from monsters?
Nerfed when using on minions but unnerfed on camps. So theoretically double, but in reality I guess you could say it's just 'normal healing' from camps and low heal from minions.
Im doing this for 8 years, that is the point supp. I have more than dozen win streaks of 10-15 wins in a row, as carry supp
"Kill before heal" - My Fiora support in the next 10 ranked games
make a video on PekinWoof!! he made it to challenger playing only off meta picks!!
Imagine going against a Fiora ADC with a Fiora Support...
0.o
wow it has been my strat lastyear when prowler claw was a thing
One of the few good league tubers out there. As long as you upload we have hope for yhe future
Fiora support with old glacial augment on hit slow was good.
I tried fiora supp months ago, i 2v1'ed and thought, this is sick!
but my teammates would dodge everytime i pick it :/
Wooo!!! New Chime video =] bot lane Fiora seems dually interesting and terrifying D:
Are u really an offmeta main without a presentation?
Yay another vid (this time I didn't wonder why u didn't post for so long)
I tested it on Eune Super Server got Vacation for 14 straight days!
I would love for these to play 1 for All together
now i want to see them duo fiora bot in one for all or something
No joke i recently said that fiora could adc and played a couple games of it, starting essence into stormrazor. However i went navori for my mythic, i will try with radiant!
When baus played with the sup guy and he out split baus
I can tell this vid took a lot more work its really good !!!
But how fiora adc do to against sona/kench or garen/yummi? They have no hard CC, no defend AS so W maybe useless in this scenario? Even then she can't kill sona quick by sona's heal, yummi is untargetable, garen/kench seem hard to deal with?
Sure but I don't think either of these players ever played against those champs all the way to grandmaster. So it doesn't affect them or anyone else
Need that presentation
docs.google.com/document/d/1PYO_hfT1er8u1pFnOdBfcXbOn8nWwP-9XkBJEH01on4/edit
You need to update the tier list of offmetas
There soneones that change drastically
Why did the thumbnail change?
Are you making anotaré tier list this year?
😊
having two strategies to following was really confusing
Should have known you made a vid when i got a ADC fiora 😐
Ferb, I know what we're going to do today.
Poro fessor is CRYING right now
Got a link to the presentation?
docs.google.com/document/d/1PYO_hfT1er8u1pFnOdBfcXbOn8nWwP-9XkBJEH01on4/edit
Do you mind giving me the presentation I wanna learn a bit more about the playstyle
docs.google.com/document/d/1PYO_hfT1er8u1pFnOdBfcXbOn8nWwP-9XkBJEH01on4/edit?usp=sharing
Thank you
"How a ADC + Sup Fiora got to GMs"
Quick Answer: It still is a Fiora
Sounds about right to me.
oh lord my ranked games...
Lol yesterday i picked fiora supp because i got autofilled and didnt notice!! It didnt go so bad!
Luxembourg in a video woooooo 🇱🇺
I'm ready for Iron 4 with this one lads!
SoloQ is a no man's land, if you put enough dedication and time you can climb with pretty much every fucking thing
bouta first time this in ranked gang 🫶🏾
I tried over 50 champs on botlane, the problem isn't the champs, the problem is the XP. Whats the point of being 7/0 Yasuo or 7/0 Fiora while being level 6 meanwhile enemy mid is level 9, enemy top level 8 enemy jungle level 8. XP os a huge issue. Sp try at your own risk, dont do so just because you watched this video
Of all the reasons why a pick doesnt work, I honestly think this is the most stupid one. When someone asks me in soloqueue how my pick works since Im always levels down, I simply tell them; I will not answer why the sky is blue. Level is simply not THAT relevant.
You always have to upload on the only days I get to play ranked? T_T Can't wait to see my bot lane run it down later today on a 100% skill check pick on an off role
Can’t wait for all my silver teammates to pick fiora adc/support and going 0/13 after spamming “trust me bro it’s good one trick”
14:42 yo I think you put the wrong rune names
I'm waiting for yi adc
I swear there was a different thumbnail for a few hours XD
nhaa man this is cursed, even more in supp role
i need to test it
I swear to God that here in LAS server I was playing Fiora supp but my adcs are shit.
Nah the Fiora support is actually so damn based.
i loved the part when you made us a special surprise
Love the vid but it was kind of confusing to have two different off meta picks being explained in parallel.
Fair point. I assumed it would be similar to the tierlist where 50+ picks were talked about at once. But likely will focus on single picks from now on anyway as this was a rare opportunity :)
@@HappyChimeNoises yeah fantastic content regardless! And I don't know how it necessarily could have been done better. Maybe two separate videos released at once?
When the two are matched in the same game, who gets the Fiora?
Lol this champ has never been balanced. Turns out that giving a champion %hp true damage is a problem regardless of requirement. Oh, don't forget the parry stun that also works as a mini exhaust.
this is awesome. Well down. Time for me to piss off my adc and run some fio supp
if they play together then who gets fiora?
They are on different servers unfortunatly. But maybe one day riot can add 'one for all' again and they can join up
Need that pdf
I did have the ADC Fiora in one of my game, I trusted her but the team started flaming right from the champ select.
In the end, we did win but definitely not thanks to the fiora x)
Ngl i would hate having the fiora supoort on my team if she takes charge of an entire side lane xD Thats sapping one of your solo laners out of the xp they want in a sidelane.
i am most defently gonna try this hehe
Fiora support doesnt only sounds terrible to play against, it also sounds absolutely miserable to play with!
Someone get Keria I need to see this at worlds.
Lol. Just today I was thinking of climbing as Nasus, trynda and Sion support and now I see this 😂
life of adc, everything counters them
thanks guys, 3 games in one day this ruined my game people thinking they can play this