Click the THUMBS UP button! Luke takes a closer look at the benefits of value line ATVs comparing CFMOTO's CFORCE 400S against the Polaris Sportsman 450 HO EFI.
Had friend of mine go creak riding with me he has a new 570 Polaris I have a 2007 kimco 300 his belts got wet and my little kimco had to pull him back to dry land. My next 4 wheeler will be anything but a Polaris.
I agree about the shifter because when I rode my friends sportsman the shifter was in the way since I race dirtbikes I sit even farther forward than most 4wheeler owners.
The CFmoto has a plate and mirrors so it probably has some aftermarket stuff tied on to make it legal to whatever their local requirements are for registration. I'm just guessing and trying to give it the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's holding on a horn or something?
If you live in hot areas like the desert like New Mexico don't buy a CFMOTO they suck they get hot and have trouble starting when they are hot we have the 400 we had two of them got rid of one because my son was a little more harder on the throttle so I got him something bigger my daughter just cruises so it works for her but they both had the same problem when they get really hot in the summer they have trouble starting up after that brand new from the store I wouldn't waste my money on that crap ever again.
Good comparison. I hate to nitpick too badly here but as far as the math is concerned the CFmoto costs 75% of the Polaris while the Polaris costs 33% more than the CFmoto. ;-)
I have owned 2 different Polaris quads, both with the 500 ho engine. When it comes to maintenance, they will nickel and dime you to death. Nothing major but you will be replacing brakes, bearings and bushings CONSTANTLY. There are also a lot of different electrical issues you may run into if you run your quad every weekend. That being said, though I no longer ride, if I needed to buy a quad again I would buy a Polaris in a heartbeat. The ride on these is absolutely amazing compared to any other brand. The AWD system is easy to use, just flip it into AWD on the go when you are nearing rough patches and don’t give it another thought. It will get through it, or crawl over it. If it can’t I doubt other quads will. Also, power is amazing compared to other similar sized engines, especially on the smaller displacement machines. My 500 sportsman was quicker and almost anything under 800cc except for the can ams. Sure I worked on it after every ride but oh well I enjoyed riding it more than any other brand I’ve ridden so I put up with it. Just wish I still had time to ride or I would still own my 13 sportsman 500
We were looking at side by sides this week and I caught a mechanic outside at the dealer and he talked to us for about 15 minutes. He let us sit in other people's machines because none of the dealers have anything in stock right now. He said he'd never own a Polaris. He showed us 15-20 atv's and utv's waiting for repairs and they were all Polaris except for stuff that owners had wrecked. He liked the Kawasakis and Hondas they sold and said to buy Japanese...
Do not ever by CFMOTO they do not perform well in the Heat when they get hot and you turn them off they do not want to start back up right away they will if you force them by giving it gas and holding the throttle a little bit so it don't die but who wants to buy something like that when they can have quality. I bought two of the CF Moto 400 and they both had the same problem they were both brand new 2020s from the store I deeply regret buying them. I live in New Mexico it gets pretty hot up here so maybe if you live in a cool temperature area this four-wheeler might be better for you but still I wouldn't buy it
I'm glad you mentioned about the Polaris shifter. I don't doubt that its less accurate and mushy, but even bigger is that design is so outdated. I'm guessing that somebody at Polaris feels like that ugly twisted stick protruding out the side is a part of their brand recognition but it has to go. Thank goodness they didn't carry it over to the scrambler. I'm also not a fan of the big silver wheel hubs in the center of the wheel but maybe now I'm getting too picky.
What about the difference between Polaris's "forget the customer" 6 month warranty and CFmoto's excellent customer service and 5 YEAR WARRANTY! ... You left that out...
You got to buy the extended warrenty. Any machine will break if your wide open pounding the shit out of it all the time. My polaris sportsmans have been reliable with only minor issues over the years. Wash the mud out after every ride and keep greased.
I bet you've never had one. You're just repeating something you've heard. I seen and used every brand made, on farms. They all break at some point. The Polaris was just as dependable as any other atv. The only difference is that everyone wants to use the Polaris , because of the extra power an performance,plus a better ride.
I have a Cfmoto cforce 400 and it’s a beast of a bike. At least for me it is. Plenty of power for me and does what I need it to do. I’d recommend it to anyone that’s looking for an atv, especially to someone that’s on a budget. You get great performance and great quality on a budget.
Really? I was thinking about getting one. It will get you anywhere you want to go right? I really think it's a bargain. But I heard there are some issues with the transmission?
Same. Bought a used one off of Craigslist for $2800. Has gone anywhere we needed it to. We even had a razor in our group not make it out of ruts that the 400 made it thru. 10/10 would recommend
@@wrsawy lol joking, i like canam and currently own an outlander. the commander was trash though. fun, expensive, only slighly better build quality than polaris. is it worth the money? personal preference.
I would like to see this revisited with newer models, I have 2020 CFMoto 600 and it is top notch, alot of the issues with older Motos have been addressed, the only thing I would like to see is a v twin in it.
Has it still been good? I have a new grizzly love it but always interested in seeing the new progress of cfmoto they seem to have become much better and very innovative with the new models nice bike!
I have a 21' cforce 600 coming from a 03' sportsman 600 twin. Absolutely love my cfmoto also have 2016 Polaris ranger midsize no issues with that either.
All these idiots regurgitating polairs hate...ive owned 2 sportsmans and several polaris sleds..no major issues with any of them. 1400 miles on my current 550 esp still original belt and i plow a large drive way. Clean and grease your machine after getting in the mud and you have no problems.
I'm looking to buy a new quad. I'm your opinion what is the better bike, 2019 cfmoto cforce 600 or the 2018 kymco mxu 700i le esp? Both brand new, both about same price and both equipped the same. Oh and both dealerships are within 10 miles from my house..
Hi I have a quadzilla rs6 600cc and now when I just the rear breaks I get a noise like it's trying to break the engine but something is grinding like cogs do u have any idea what it is
had the cfmoto zforce for 3 years...no issues yet. has plenty of power too. a little stiff int he suspension but its ok. i get much more for my money. ill be putting up videos of my cfmoto soon too. great bike! I have 1900 miles on my polaris 570 and i have 1 failed belt, and already a leak. but it definitely as good down low grunt vs the cfmoto for climbing in Colorado rocks and also much more comfortable as far as suspension goes. so far no issue engine and tranny though
I have a 2020 570 and my wife has the cfmoto 400 2020. I’ve ridden the cfmoto it’s a nice bike. Only complaint is I feel as though the steering is limited
The one thing you have too add in on CF Motto is Dealers charge you 500 shipping fee , so basically you pay about 5000 for the Cf , and Polaris on sale can get for around 5500 on sale no fees ! When you resale it You will be happier with Polaris !
For $1500 in savings gives some room for modifying the suspension and moving the brake lever to the other side if you desire.. I have had my Arctic Cat since 2003 and one of the first things I did was to change the rear springs and make adjustments to preload, tire pressures and added 1 inch spacers on all 4 corners, for my personal desired handling characteristics.. Next changes were a tad more aggressive 6 ply radial tires.. Having owned 4x4's for over 50 years (Jeeps, Scouts, 4 wheel drive pickups etc), I have discovered that in many and almost all cases lower power is better (fosters traction rather than spinning and digging deeper holes).. Narrower tires also foster better traction (gets down through the muck to find solid ground for better traction rather than floating in the muck, and trying to paddle in the sloppy stuff).. Tires and ground clearance is the key with just enough power to pull you through without excessive torque and spinning.. My 400 has shamed many with over twice the engine size.. Left them scratching their heads.. Who do you think would win a drag race on ice, a low powered VW Beetle or a high horse powered Corvette - my money would be on the VW for sure..
I miss my old Arctic Cat 400. Best general purpose ATV ever made. Manual trans with 3 ranges including "Super Low" (a desperately missed feature), in/out 4wd, gear indicator, and rode like a Cadillac. The only feature I wish it had, was a locking rear differential.
my cfmot was brand new and lasted 447 km it ran way too hot and caught on fire.never have a cfmoto again.it burnt my daughters leg.now have a polaris 450 and you feel no heat whatsoever a better drive and much better ride than any cfmotoproduct and i advise people never to buy a cf moto their company puts you on ignore once they realize they have a problem
the funny thing about your emphasis on the brake lever position is on the motorcycle the brake is usually on the right and the clutch is on the left. Given that most ATV's don't use a clutch I don't know why they didn't leave the brake on the right.. it's where I prefer it.
Jackal's Outdoor Channel The right side is definitely where I'm used to having it. Mainly, I tend to use a Combo of Right lever and Foot pedal for Stopping My old Honda 185s. It does have dual Hand levers for the brakes, but I tend not to use the left one, it just feels weird to use, kinda wrong, really. that's one thing I don't like about the Arctic Cat I use at work.
I have a sportsman 570 with over 400 miles and a cf moto 400 with over 500 miles. both ridden on the same trails and in the same way. I also use the cfmoto to plow snow but not the sportsman. cf moto has had no issues at all, sportsman 570, replaced the fuel pump and both rear axles. I was skeptical about buying the cf moto but for me the savings out the door of over $1500 vs the cost of a 450 sportsman it was more than worth it. the ride is good, it makes good power for a 400 and so far has been more reliable than my polaris 570. I would definitely recommend anyone try cfmoto especially if in the market for a second ATV.
god damn either u lying or u got a lemon quad cuzz 400 miles and both axle and pump fuel replace lol my can am outlander has 4100 miles and i beat the shet out of it and nothing broke only my radiator fan becauce i let it idle in water deeper than the headlight for more then 5 minute while i was taking picture of the quad in the mud
I will never ever ever want an ATV to decide when I want AWD and when I don't. Give me a 4x4 selector and a diff lock selector (or limited slip). I'm sure it works fine, but the same reason I want these are the same reason I don't like automatics.
I have owned and put many miles on Arctic cat 1000 Can-Am 800 Yamaha 450 and Polaris 850. The most reliable was the Yamaha by a country mile. I say if it is not made in Japan do not buy it.
I do like a Polaris, but when I went shopping for a mid-sized 4x4 they just didn't give me the good financing deal that Honda did. I got the 2016 Honda Rancher 420, DCT, IRS, fuel injected model. Well equipped, smooth, tough and reliable motor. For my use it fits the bill perfectly. Polaris would do much better if they would make better financing terms.
Financing is done with the dealer or your bank, manufacturers have nothing to do with it. On the other hand you might get rebates from manufacturers, it this what you mean?
$5,999 for that Polaris in the U.S? damn... In Canada they start at $8,999 and by the time you add the taxes, registration and financing interest it comes up to like $12,000.
Eastern Explorer When factor in exchange Rates, USD=CAD, ($1.00 USD=$1.24 CAD) its about the same overall. For example, $15 CAD is about $12.47 USD. Basically, you pay about the same we do, it just seems more because Canadian Dollars are worth a bit more than a USA dollar.
I have a question to ask you so my brother is always talking shit about my sportsman 400 (2013) and he has a 2013 Suzuki 750 so what do you guys think is better if you don't consider HP
I'm a bit late, but they are both proven great quads. It also depends on what type of Suzuki it is. Given that it is a 750cc I feel that it would clearly out perform your 400cc, but that does not necessarily mean it's better.
CFmoto has a zip tie in front grill.5:45 the zip tie and the front is not put on all the way. The front suspension is definitly claimed up and doesnt move much like you say. What about yamaha 450?
We bought a brand new Polaris sportsman 570 and it's full of problems it has broken on the way home of electrical problems under 1000km it's terrible to drive and if you drive in rocky trail the motor gearbox has a Metallic slamming sound. we had a 15 years old honda rincon and no problems ever only thing was a really dirty air filter and carburator that was so dirty that it didint run good at all after I cleaned them it ripped so hard! it was the best atv i ever ridden every!! winter i drow it in the snow all day it started better then polaris and it doesn't take any gasoline compared with polaris (polaris takes too much gasoline for the power ratio)
But the brake on the right side makes sense. Because if someone gets on it who has driven a manual dirtbike or atv its more natural to have the brake on the right.
I just bought one, picked it up and rode it for the first time today. I don’t find any of the nit picks from this video. The ride is not stiffer than any other ATV I have ridden, I was very happy with how it performed. My property is very hilly with a lot of steep trails, a rocky stream, lots of mud (and snow today, May 8th 2020, really?) . He mentions the sportsman is much faster, well yeah, it’s a 500CC machine that weighs less than the CFMOTO 400. It has a bigger engine, more power and weighs less, duh! The CF also has big steel bars in front where the Polaris is all plastic. The fit and finish is excellent as well. Time will tell with how it holds up, but my first day with it I’m impressed
@@JcwW-yx6hu I drove a 19 model a while and for a four hundred it had plenty of power though the steering is stiff compared to a Yamaha kodiak without power steering, but the Yamaha was like $1500 more and it didn't have a locking differential like the cf moto, to me it was a no brainier to get the cf because of the features and the price difference, seems like they are a great machine if you don't abuse them, from what I gather they don't hold up quite as well as a honda or Yamaha if they are abused
Thanks for the input, I bought a 2020 cforce400 , going to use it for hunting season, not going to abuse it really , just one or two days per weekend. Happy so far. Hope it lasts a while!
@Yooper Author I live in Buffalo where we average 93” a year, the property is about 20 miles south of me where over twice that falls. Closer to what the U.P. Gets. The quad has been perfectly reliable
I don't see why Not! I'm 6,2, 230 lbs, and a well-used 1983 Honda 185s scoots my butt around just fine, although it don't pull like it used to. At work, (Weekend Job) the primary Machine we (Me and My co-Workers) use is a 2003 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4x4 it is used for scooting around the yard for getting parts, or else pulling cars around, does fine, and we often have over 400 lbs of stuff on it, 2 people, tools, and whatever piece we just pulled. It is the primary pulling machine as well, it will pull a 3,500 car around. The only problem we run into is if we get a particularly heavy car, (say, a 5,500 lb fully Loaded 1970 Chrysler New Yorker with a stuck rear wheel. At that point, the rear tends to lift up and spin, unless I sit over the rear wheels and keep the back end down. Even with 300lbs on it (ME, at 230lb, 6'2, and a 70 lb Tool Box on the front), I have had that thing up to 40 mph blasting down the gravel Road, and it acted like it was nothing! If a 400 Big Bear can scoot like that loaded down, and go through the kinda stuff we use it for, for over a decade (Bought it used, 2009), your BB 350 should have no problems, so long as it has good compression, and doesn't smoke like a bigshot executive with a cuban cigar.
A little bit of information on the CFMOTO they actually build for other big names for almost 30 years now. They are just new in this part of the world. For Example they build a lot of KTM models.
I'd still go with the Kymco if I wanted the best price. The 450i makes quite a bit more power than the CF Moto 400 as well. The Kymco 450I is basically identical to the Arctic Cat Alterra 450 as Kymco makes the engine for both.
They all come with that zip tie when they are new. I was at the dealer and they all had it. I bought a 500cc CF and it had it too. I took it off and nothing popped out of place or anything. I assume it has something to do with the original packaging? I will say this, SO FAR it's been a great rig. I got a brand new (2017 model) 500cc 4x4 with dif lok, power steering, winch installed, aluminum mag rims for $4999. and when you ride it you don't feel like you are on a piece of shit. It rides pretty nice, looks great. I'm an old school Honda guy and I like this rig. A lot of bang for $5000. My only beef is it doesn't turn very sharp. But I can live with the occasional 2 point turns..
for similar price you can get a 450 outlander L that preforms way better, has more features, better fit and finish and overall twice the bike as the polaris
Fan of Dirt Trax Television and their well-put together videos. With build quality being one of the primary consumer concerns about CFMOTO products, I am wondering why Luke is conspicuously silent on the subject--raised several times in the comments section--about the zip-tie strapped to the front of the unit shown in the video. The videographer did not attempt to conceal its presence which in itself is an obvious hint at fit-and-finish problems, but I think I speak for many in my request for an explanation about it.
Fuse box sits under that panel. If you don’t finesse the fasteners molded into the panel while removing, you can crack them. Just have to be paying attention when you remove the panel.
All Terrain Experiments It could be Sleeved, sometimes companies will take a certain engine, and sleeve it to reduce the bore for a certain size class. It's cheaper to sleeve down an existing, oversized engine, than to develop a whole new block for the smaller class. This is especially common in race ATVs, where they will take a Engine from say, a 550, and sleeve it down to about 435 CC, so it fits the 450 class.
Your talkin the 570. The 450ho is essentially the old 500s. I've put several of those old 500s through hell and back. Did some break? Yep! I'd still buy em tho.
Cir CIVIC no u are fine ppl are just mad that Polaris is the better atv.I have a Polaris and I’ve had no problems with it.I also drive it fast and go through rough trails and had no problems with my sportsman.oh and did I mention I had it for 3 years
Honda best, Yamaha, BRP Suzuki, Polaris, Arctic Cat, then CF, but I'd never buy it, seem to much BS with them, I'm a Yamaha guy now, owned a Polaris and a Cat in the past, I put them in order I'd buy, so to each his own?, of these 2 he showed, Polaris a better oval value imo
I know 2 guys that had Polaris, my cousin who had I think a 09 and my friend who has a 2011. Polaris seems to have tons of power, a 400cc is fast as hell. Smooth riding, great AWD. But you can't keep the damn things out of the shop. Polaris seems to be good as long as they are under warranty. Soon as the warranty is out, sell it. I have no idea about CF Moto, no experience with them.
Hello, I am interested in CF atv, I am from Spain and in Spain nobody can tell me if they are trustworthy or not, I have only seen bad comments about them, could someone help me and tell me if they are reliable or not? Thank you very much
If you're only seeing negative comments about them, that's pretty telling. Talk to your local dealer before considering buying. See if parts are available in case you need service and make sure he's got a good program for you.
@@dirttraxtv I see the problem in that in Spain there is only one importer of this brand, in case of failure it would possibly find spare parts but it would take months to arrive, or so I think. The question of reliability I ask because these vehicles are manufactured for the offroad and I would not like to have breakdowns in the middle of a mountain far from any road. I have looked at the yamaha and can am atv but there is a lot of price difference between cf and other brands for that is my doubt, thank you very much for answering
single lever brakes? definitely not something i would want on my 4 wheeler. why not you ask. well if im climbing a hill and i happen to lose momentum and not make it, i can pull my front brake lever and back down the hill safely. putting any friction on the rear brake pads you risk the quad coming over on you. same with going down a hill, your rear brakes only need to be applied and in some extreme situations finesse the front brakes. you never want them both to be engaged at the same time all the time.
Purchased a new 2019 Polaris 570 Sportsman EPS and got rid of it in 3 months due to several problems that the dealer and Polaris couldn't fix. Transmission overheating, sparkplug fouling, and constant squeaking, yes I lost my ass in the process.
You can buy the Sportsman for just over 4k if you look around. CF moto dealers sell at MSRP. So you can actually get the Polaris cheaper so it's a real no brainer.
The cfmoto is 75% the price of the sportsman but the sportsman is 33% more expensive than the cfmoto.
Had friend of mine go creak riding with me he has a new 570 Polaris I have a 2007 kimco 300 his belts got wet and my little kimco had to pull him back to dry land. My next 4 wheeler will be anything but a Polaris.
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I have a kymco 450, I love it so far. Ride it like it's stolen and still holding up
I agree about the shifter because when I rode my friends sportsman the shifter was in the way since I race dirtbikes I sit even farther forward than most 4wheeler owners.
bought the 2018 today 450 Love It,the ride feels great lots of Fun
barry graham Polaris?
420 rancher is my fav
I wish there was an update to this video
the cfmoto had a zip tie on the front,
"no problems at all while we've had it"
Brandon Hoover need an update
Hahahah!
Brandon Hoover I could not believe it when I saw the zip tie on the Moto
The CFmoto has a plate and mirrors so it probably has some aftermarket stuff tied on to make it legal to whatever their local requirements are for registration. I'm just guessing and trying to give it the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's holding on a horn or something?
If you live in hot areas like the desert like New Mexico don't buy a CFMOTO they suck they get hot and have trouble starting when they are hot we have the 400 we had two of them got rid of one because my son was a little more harder on the throttle so I got him something bigger my daughter just cruises so it works for her but they both had the same problem when they get really hot in the summer they have trouble starting up after that brand new from the store I wouldn't waste my money on that crap ever again.
Good comparison. I hate to nitpick too badly here but as far as the math is concerned the CFmoto costs 75% of the Polaris while the Polaris costs 33% more than the CFmoto. ;-)
Neil Bergstedt or even more accurately he could've stated that the Polaris is 125% the cost of the CF Moto.
J Bouchard
It’s 133%
I just got a brand new 2021 cforce 500 and I love it
I have owned 2 different Polaris quads, both with the 500 ho engine. When it comes to maintenance, they will nickel and dime you to death. Nothing major but you will be replacing brakes, bearings and bushings CONSTANTLY. There are also a lot of different electrical issues you may run into if you run your quad every weekend. That being said, though I no longer ride, if I needed to buy a quad again I would buy a Polaris in a heartbeat. The ride on these is absolutely amazing compared to any other brand. The AWD system is easy to use, just flip it into AWD on the go when you are nearing rough patches and don’t give it another thought. It will get through it, or crawl over it. If it can’t I doubt other quads will. Also, power is amazing compared to other similar sized engines, especially on the smaller displacement machines. My 500 sportsman was quicker and almost anything under 800cc except for the can ams. Sure I worked on it after every ride but oh well I enjoyed riding it more than any other brand I’ve ridden so I put up with it. Just wish I still had time to ride or I would still own my 13 sportsman 500
We were looking at side by sides this week and I caught a mechanic outside at the dealer and he talked to us for about 15 minutes. He let us sit in other people's machines because none of the dealers have anything in stock right now. He said he'd never own a Polaris. He showed us 15-20 atv's and utv's waiting for repairs and they were all Polaris except for stuff that owners had wrecked. He liked the Kawasakis and Hondas they sold and said to buy Japanese...
Right. So if you was to get one today which of them would it be?
great video cheers guys
Thanks for the video - can you do an update with a polaris 450 ho and a cfmoto 500s and perhaps a can am
Do not ever by CFMOTO they do not perform well in the Heat when they get hot and you turn them off they do not want to start back up right away they will if you force them by giving it gas and holding the throttle a little bit so it don't die but who wants to buy something like that when they can have quality. I bought two of the CF Moto 400 and they both had the same problem they were both brand new 2020s from the store I deeply regret buying them. I live in New Mexico it gets pretty hot up here so maybe if you live in a cool temperature area this four-wheeler might be better for you but still I wouldn't buy it
I have a cf moto 500 z force side by side and it is a tank.
Make sure it is in low gear when you get stuck and it will always get you home.
I'm glad you mentioned about the Polaris shifter. I don't doubt that its less accurate and mushy, but even bigger is that design is so outdated. I'm guessing that somebody at Polaris feels like that ugly twisted stick protruding out the side is a part of their brand recognition but it has to go. Thank goodness they didn't carry it over to the scrambler.
I'm also not a fan of the big silver wheel hubs in the center of the wheel but maybe now I'm getting too picky.
I hate the Polaris shift lever. There's nothing to keep you from banging your right knee into it when you're riding either.
And they damage EZ
You're so right. That shifter looks like something from the 7O's
i will say even tho Polaris has really good atvs but they still stick to the same shifter.
Partial review based on one of their major financial supporters
The 2019 600 class is amazing
For Polaris or cf moto?
@@matthewconway6643 CF Moto
@@CurtisBlanchard fr cf moto good? Are you capping
What about the difference between Polaris's "forget the customer" 6 month warranty and CFmoto's excellent customer service and 5 YEAR WARRANTY! ... You left that out...
Justinator8400 true but I'm wondering what the experience would be when you actually have to use that warranty.
Alex MacLean I have 5 year warranty on my Polaris 570 and haven’t had to fix anything other than spider bearings on the prop shaft,
You got to buy the extended warrenty. Any machine will break if your wide open pounding the shit out of it all the time. My polaris sportsmans have been reliable with only minor issues over the years. Wash the mud out after every ride and keep greased.
u mean the 5 year warranty where u need to pay a fee when u bring it haha good joke
Do you work for cfmoto?
Polaris 4x4 are in the shop getting fixed more than any other 4x4 this guy got paid to say that about Polaris
Brian tel dont forget can am too
Soooooo true
I bet you've never had one. You're just repeating something you've heard. I seen and used every brand made, on farms. They all break at some point. The Polaris was just as dependable as any other atv. The only difference is that everyone wants to use the Polaris , because of the extra power an performance,plus a better ride.
bobby harvill Haha! Bull crap a rancher 420 outlast anything
My Polaris broke down this morning .. broken starter motor .. 🤔
Please make do more reviews on the Cforce!!
I have a Cfmoto cforce 400 and it’s a beast of a bike. At least for me it is. Plenty of power for me and does what I need it to do. I’d recommend it to anyone that’s looking for an atv, especially to someone that’s on a budget. You get great performance and great quality on a budget.
How long have u owned it?
Really? I was thinking about getting one. It will get you anywhere you want to go right? I really think it's a bargain. But I heard there are some issues with the transmission?
Need an update have any issues?
Same. Bought a used one off of Craigslist for $2800. Has gone anywhere we needed it to. We even had a razor in our group not make it out of ruts that the 400 made it thru. 10/10 would recommend
They didn't include the can am because taking out a second mortgage cash out for an atv was not an option.
wrsawy hmm, i see the poors are commenting again
@@NASWOG what are you rambling about trigger?
@@wrsawy lol joking, i like canam and currently own an outlander. the commander was trash though. fun, expensive, only slighly better build quality than polaris. is it worth the money? personal preference.
I would like to see this revisited with newer models, I have 2020 CFMoto 600 and it is top notch, alot of the issues with older Motos have been addressed, the only thing I would like to see is a v twin in it.
Has it still been good? I have a new grizzly love it but always interested in seeing the new progress of cfmoto they seem to have become much better and very innovative with the new models nice bike!
I have a 21' cforce 600 coming from a 03' sportsman 600 twin. Absolutely love my cfmoto also have 2016 Polaris ranger midsize no issues with that either.
The cf motos stiff suspension was probably designed for work and heavy payload on the racks
i have a 450s !! Great machines !
Know Polaris reliability history (aka there's no reliability) I'd probably gamble on the CF Moto
you're high
Same
Baseless comment...your opinion only
I was thinking the exact same thing, if you want reliability buy Yamaha or Honda.
All these idiots regurgitating polairs hate...ive owned 2 sportsmans and several polaris sleds..no major issues with any of them. 1400 miles on my current 550 esp still original belt and i plow a large drive way. Clean and grease your machine after getting in the mud and you have no problems.
Thanks!
Wish you guys would do a budget ATV compeition and see who can buy the best used ATV for a set budget
I'd go for the CFmoto, got a Cforce 550, No problems whatsoever, smooth and reliable asf.
Is the CF moto still holding up good?
@@kevinhenson5942 lol rightt
Mr. Warhead need an update on that 550 I know you’ve had problems
Yeah give us an update already...
still waiting lol
Any updates on the CFMOT in 2019?!?
I'm looking to buy a new quad. I'm your opinion what is the better bike, 2019 cfmoto cforce 600 or the 2018 kymco mxu 700i le esp? Both brand new, both about same price and both equipped the same. Oh and both dealerships are within 10 miles from my house..
Hi I have a quadzilla rs6 600cc and now when I just the rear breaks I get a noise like it's trying to break the engine but something is grinding like cogs do u have any idea what it is
"Better established dealer network (Polaris)". And those dealers are certainly reaping the rewards of fixing new machines.
had the cfmoto zforce for 3 years...no issues yet. has plenty of power too. a little stiff int he suspension but its ok. i get much more for my money. ill be putting up videos of my cfmoto soon too. great bike!
I have 1900 miles on my polaris 570 and i have 1 failed belt, and already a leak. but it definitely as good down low grunt vs the cfmoto for climbing in Colorado rocks and also much more comfortable as far as suspension goes. so far no issue engine and tranny though
Honda rancher 420?
I have a 2020 570 and my wife has the cfmoto 400 2020. I’ve ridden the cfmoto it’s a nice bike. Only complaint is I feel as though the steering is limited
There you go 100k views
The one thing you have too add in on CF Motto is Dealers charge you 500 shipping fee , so basically you pay about 5000 for the Cf , and Polaris on sale can get for around 5500 on sale no fees ! When you resale it You will be happier with Polaris !
Interesting.
More cforce videos please!!!
is big difference in quality, performance betwen cf moto vs polaris?
For $1500 in savings gives some room for modifying the suspension and moving the brake lever to the other side if you desire.. I have had my Arctic Cat since 2003 and one of the first things I did was to change the rear springs and make adjustments to preload, tire pressures and added 1 inch spacers on all 4 corners, for my personal desired handling characteristics.. Next changes were a tad more aggressive 6 ply radial tires.. Having owned 4x4's for over 50 years (Jeeps, Scouts, 4 wheel drive pickups etc), I have discovered that in many and almost all cases lower power is better (fosters traction rather than spinning and digging deeper holes).. Narrower tires also foster better traction (gets down through the muck to find solid ground for better traction rather than floating in the muck, and trying to paddle in the sloppy stuff).. Tires and ground clearance is the key with just enough power to pull you through without excessive torque and spinning.. My 400 has shamed many with over twice the engine size.. Left them scratching their heads.. Who do you think would win a drag race on ice, a low powered VW Beetle or a high horse powered Corvette - my money would be on the VW for sure..
I miss my old Arctic Cat 400. Best general purpose ATV ever made. Manual trans with 3 ranges including "Super Low" (a desperately missed feature), in/out 4wd, gear indicator, and rode like a Cadillac. The only feature I wish it had, was a locking rear differential.
New Englanders (in most part) agree 100% with ya try the Arctic Cat Alteras and I think you will see Arctic Cat has done it again.
My friend has a Cforce 500 the only thing is it doesn’t have enough clearance
The sportsman 450 is 6k brand new, I'd rather have a Kodiak 450 for the same price
Ya and you could keep the Kodiak til the day you die and it'll still work. The Polaris I give 10 years and that's being generous
I'll add a king quad 500 to this conversation too.. Love mine.. Kodiak is real nice too.
@@brly4542 Agreed, I have a polaris that is older but I think I work on it more than ride it.
Emory Bragg my Yamaha Kodiak will be 20 years old this June. Still rides like the day I bought it
I didn’t pay 6k for mine
I love that new Polaris 450 H.O.
my cfmot was brand new and lasted 447 km it ran way too hot and caught on fire.never have a cfmoto again.it burnt my daughters leg.now have a polaris 450 and you feel no heat whatsoever a better drive and much better ride than any cfmotoproduct and i advise people never to buy a cf moto their company puts you on ignore once they realize they have a problem
the funny thing about your emphasis on the brake lever position is on the motorcycle the brake is usually on the right and the clutch is on the left. Given that most ATV's don't use a clutch I don't know why they didn't leave the brake on the right.. it's where I prefer it.
Jackal's Outdoor Channel The right side is definitely where I'm used to having it. Mainly, I tend to use a Combo of Right lever and Foot pedal for Stopping My old Honda 185s. It does have dual Hand levers for the brakes, but I tend not to use the left one, it just feels weird to use, kinda wrong, really. that's one thing I don't like about the Arctic
Cat I use at work.
I have a sportsman 570 with over 400 miles and a cf moto 400 with over 500 miles. both ridden on the same trails and in the same way. I also use the cfmoto to plow snow but not the sportsman. cf moto has had no issues at all, sportsman 570, replaced the fuel pump and both rear axles. I was skeptical about buying the cf moto but for me the savings out the door of over $1500 vs the cost of a 450 sportsman it was more than worth it. the ride is good, it makes good power for a 400 and so far has been more reliable than my polaris 570. I would definitely recommend anyone try cfmoto especially if in the market for a second ATV.
god damn either u lying or u got a lemon quad cuzz 400 miles and both axle and pump fuel replace lol my can am outlander has 4100 miles and i beat the shet out of it and nothing broke only my radiator fan becauce i let it idle in water deeper than the headlight for more then 5 minute while i was taking picture of the quad in the mud
I will never ever ever want an ATV to decide when I want AWD and when I don't. Give me a 4x4 selector and a diff lock selector (or limited slip). I'm sure it works fine, but the same reason I want these are the same reason I don't like automatics.
I have owned and put many miles on Arctic cat 1000 Can-Am 800 Yamaha 450 and Polaris 850. The most reliable was the Yamaha by a country mile. I say if it is not made in Japan do not buy it.
I do like a Polaris, but when I went shopping for a mid-sized 4x4 they just didn't give me the good financing deal that Honda did. I got the 2016 Honda Rancher 420, DCT, IRS, fuel injected model. Well equipped, smooth, tough and reliable motor. For my use it fits the bill perfectly. Polaris would do much better if they would make better financing terms.
Financing is done with the dealer or your bank, manufacturers have nothing to do with it. On the other hand you might get rebates from manufacturers, it this what you mean?
luke can u help me how fast should XMR 1000r. Outlander 2018. Xtp OUTLANDER 1000 and a renegade 850. I could only do only 103KM
Electronically limited.
not really a "shootout" with only 2 ATVs
MrHeepspo yeah, a group of middleschoolers aint no riot either :)
$5,999 for that Polaris in the U.S? damn... In Canada they start at $8,999 and by the time you add the taxes, registration and financing interest it comes up to like $12,000.
I just checked and the 850 starts at $10,500 in Canada so you would be looking at a $15,000 bill by the time you were done.
Geez. Where did you find that price? I bought my 570 Sportsman for $7000 out the door.
Eastern Explorer When factor in exchange Rates, USD=CAD, ($1.00 USD=$1.24 CAD) its about the same overall. For example, $15 CAD is about $12.47 USD. Basically, you pay about the same we do, it just seems more because Canadian Dollars are worth a bit more than a USA dollar.
The Polaris are now going for $4100 in the US southern states want me to drive two up for you in Canada?
@@triangleofdeath6246 Canadian dollars are worth less than US dollars.
First :39 seconds is my life!
My fav is the Yamaha kodiak 450
Was this a comparison or a Polaris commercial?
You can assume Polaris every time (duh because dirttrax is doing the review)...
does the linhai have meny problems
Fog Zoom there Chinese junk
hw much please?
I have a question to ask you so my brother is always talking shit about my sportsman 400 (2013) and he has a 2013 Suzuki 750 so what do you guys think is better if you don't consider HP
I'm a bit late, but they are both proven great quads. It also depends on what type of Suzuki it is. Given that it is a 750cc I feel that it would clearly out perform your 400cc, but that does not necessarily mean it's better.
0:47 “price or sffrperformance”
CFmoto has a zip tie in front grill.5:45 the zip tie and the front is not put on all the way. The front suspension is definitly claimed up and doesnt move much like you say. What about yamaha 450?
TheCamaro5 Yamaha no longer makes the Kodak 450, it is now just a Kodiak 700 or grizzly 700 for their utility line up.
So why don’t you do this review every year?
We bought a brand new Polaris sportsman 570 and it's full of problems it has broken on the way home of electrical problems under 1000km it's terrible to drive and if you drive in rocky trail the motor gearbox has a
Metallic slamming sound. we had a 15 years old honda rincon and no problems ever only thing was a really dirty air filter and carburator that was so dirty that it didint run good at all after I cleaned them it ripped so hard! it was the best atv i ever ridden every!! winter i drow it in the snow all day it started better then polaris and it doesn't take any gasoline compared with polaris (polaris takes too much gasoline for the power ratio)
But the brake on the right side makes sense. Because if someone gets on it who has driven a manual dirtbike or atv its more natural to have the brake on the right.
I ride motorcycles all the time! Yes that is what I said too while watching! Clutches on the right brake on the left!
What about now in 2020 has CF Moto made improvements to there 400? thanks Charlie
I just bought one, picked it up and rode it for the first time today. I don’t find any of the nit picks from this video. The ride is not stiffer than any other ATV I have ridden, I was very happy with how it performed. My property is very hilly with a lot of steep trails, a rocky stream, lots of mud (and snow today, May 8th 2020, really?) . He mentions the sportsman is much faster, well yeah, it’s a 500CC machine that weighs less than the CFMOTO 400. It has a bigger engine, more power and weighs less, duh! The CF also has big steel bars in front where the Polaris is all plastic. The fit and finish is excellent as well. Time will tell with how it holds up, but my first day with it I’m impressed
How is the CF Moto doing any updates?
@@JcwW-yx6hu I drove a 19 model a while and for a four hundred it had plenty of power though the steering is stiff compared to a Yamaha kodiak without power steering, but the Yamaha was like $1500 more and it didn't have a locking differential like the cf moto, to me it was a no brainier to get the cf because of the features and the price difference, seems like they are a great machine if you don't abuse them, from what I gather they don't hold up quite as well as a honda or Yamaha if they are abused
Thanks for the input, I bought a 2020 cforce400 , going to use it for hunting season, not going to abuse it really , just one or two days per weekend. Happy so far. Hope it lasts a while!
@Yooper Author I live in Buffalo where we average 93” a year, the property is about 20 miles south of me where over twice that falls. Closer to what the U.P. Gets. The quad has been perfectly reliable
my question is how fast in miles are the 450s
My Polaris 450HO will hit 55 mph on a flat, smooth surface
I've had my Sportsman 570 for 2 years now & never once had an issue with it.
Just bought a Big Bear 350 4x4.I'm. 6"2 and 260 lbs. Will the bike struggle.
I don't see why Not! I'm 6,2, 230 lbs, and a well-used 1983 Honda 185s scoots my butt around just fine, although it don't pull like it used to.
At work, (Weekend Job) the primary Machine we (Me and My co-Workers) use is a 2003 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4x4 it is used for scooting around the yard for getting parts, or else pulling cars around, does fine, and we often have over 400 lbs of stuff on it, 2 people, tools, and whatever piece we just pulled. It is the primary pulling machine as well, it will pull a 3,500 car around. The only problem we run into is if we get a particularly heavy car, (say, a 5,500 lb fully Loaded 1970 Chrysler New Yorker with a stuck rear wheel. At that point, the rear tends to lift up and spin, unless I sit over the rear wheels and keep the back end down.
Even with 300lbs on it (ME, at 230lb, 6'2, and a 70 lb Tool Box on the front), I have had that thing up to 40 mph blasting down the gravel Road, and it acted like it was nothing!
If a 400 Big Bear can scoot like that loaded down, and go through the kinda stuff we use it for, for over a decade (Bought it used, 2009), your BB 350 should have no problems, so long as it has good compression, and doesn't smoke like a bigshot executive with a cuban cigar.
Insect King I've got a 350 wolverine your be fine
Is it worth $4000
69 plate 450 such a better qaud then my old polaris best upgrade ever
The Polaris is grossly under sprung, nosediving is common. I added HD coils to it to stop this.
Yamaha atv
Ive got the xp and id say almost a little stiff
Why is there a zip tie holding the front plastics together on the CF Moto?
Because its a CF Moto. I wouldn't buy one, quality just isn't there compared to any of the big names. It is cheaper for a reason.
A little bit of information on the CFMOTO they actually build for other big names for almost 30 years now. They are just new in this part of the world. For Example they build a lot of KTM models.
Greg Rowe just got one and guess what no zip tie it's pretty well build for its price
I'd still go with the Kymco if I wanted the best price. The 450i makes quite a bit more power than the CF Moto 400 as well. The Kymco 450I is basically identical to the Arctic Cat Alterra 450 as Kymco makes the engine for both.
They all come with that zip tie when they are new. I was at the dealer and they all had it. I bought a 500cc CF and it had it too. I took it off and nothing popped out of place or anything. I assume it has something to do with the original packaging? I will say this, SO FAR it's been a great rig. I got a brand new (2017 model) 500cc 4x4 with dif lok, power steering, winch installed, aluminum mag rims for $4999. and when you ride it you don't feel like you are on a piece of shit. It rides pretty nice, looks great. I'm an old school Honda guy and I like this rig. A lot of bang for $5000. My only beef is it doesn't turn very sharp. But I can live with the occasional 2 point turns..
Polaris has great rebates right now, and I see the 450 for less then $5999 all the time new.
Robert Hierholzer I almost picked one up for 5199$ the other day, just couldn't convince the wife enough lol
for similar price you can get a 450 outlander L that preforms way better, has more features, better fit and finish and overall twice the bike as the polaris
Found the fanboy
2:14 the cfmoto is literally held together with zip ties LMFAO!!!
Fan of Dirt Trax Television and their well-put together videos. With build quality being one of the primary consumer concerns about CFMOTO products, I am wondering why Luke is conspicuously silent on the subject--raised several times in the comments section--about the zip-tie strapped to the front of the unit shown in the video. The videographer did not attempt to conceal its presence which in itself is an obvious hint at fit-and-finish problems, but I think I speak for many in my request for an explanation about it.
Agree! Own up to the truth DT!
CFMoto comes with a 5 year warranty. Something that the others seriously lack.
Fuse box sits under that panel. If you don’t finesse the fasteners molded into the panel while removing, you can crack them. Just have to be paying attention when you remove the panel.
Why is the 450ho still in the 400 class? It has a 567cc pro star engine. How are they getting away with that?
All Terrain Experiments for 2017 and later it is 499cc.
Loveracing1988 it's still a 500 with a 450 sticker. So dishonest.
All Terrain Experiments It could be Sleeved, sometimes companies will take a certain engine, and sleeve it to reduce the bore for a certain size class. It's cheaper to sleeve down an existing, oversized engine, than to develop a whole new block for the smaller class.
This is especially common in race ATVs, where they will take a Engine from say, a 550, and sleeve it down to about 435 CC, so it fits the 450 class.
Your talkin the 570. The 450ho is essentially the old 500s. I've put several of those old 500s through hell and back. Did some break? Yep! I'd still buy em tho.
is it bad that i drive my sportsman 400 like a race bike
Cir CIVIC no u are fine ppl are just mad that Polaris is the better atv.I have a Polaris and I’ve had no problems with it.I also drive it fast and go through rough trails and had no problems with my sportsman.oh and did I mention I had it for 3 years
not even close , get real. how bout some real competition from honda , yamaha, can-am ,arctic cat and suzuki.
I personally like the can am 450 more than the Polaris but I like the sportsman 850 more
I like receiving Blow jobs more
@@robertsalyers1351 Same u trynna meet up and make it happen!
@@Omega-uj6qz I'm not too late for the party am I?
Plz you MUST get the can am outlander 450 overall the best in the 450 category...
Polaris is the best out right now I love my 2018 sportsman 570
Waddya Know ... A Polaris Commercial !
i am looking fot my first. i want super slow!
low profile.
durable
easy repair/parts
a good backup dealer
Honda best, Yamaha, BRP Suzuki, Polaris, Arctic Cat, then CF, but I'd never buy it, seem to much BS with them, I'm a Yamaha guy now, owned a Polaris and a Cat in the past, I put them in order I'd buy, so to each his own?, of these 2 he showed, Polaris a better oval value imo
Bike????
Yeah they are called Quad bikes...
I know 2 guys that had Polaris, my cousin who had I think a 09 and my friend who has a 2011. Polaris seems to have tons of power, a 400cc is fast as hell. Smooth riding, great AWD. But you can't keep the damn things out of the shop. Polaris seems to be good as long as they are under warranty. Soon as the warranty is out, sell it.
I have no idea about CF Moto, no experience with them.
That's good to hear.
I’ll say it again, as the owner of a Polaris 800 Sportsman and having owned one other Polaris I say why can’t they put racks on their quads!
You can
can am outlander all the way baby!
they got problems too. trust me
whats the problem?
Polaris 6 month warranty??????
He said it’s sluggish ( Cfmoto ) have it de restricted and Polaris have a pretty crap track record
atvs r coool
Hello, I am interested in CF atv, I am from Spain and in Spain nobody can tell me if they are trustworthy or not, I have only seen bad comments about them, could someone help me and tell me if they are reliable or not? Thank you very much
If you're only seeing negative comments about them, that's pretty telling. Talk to your local dealer before considering buying. See if parts are available in case you need service and make sure he's got a good program for you.
@@dirttraxtv I see the problem in that in Spain there is only one importer of this brand, in case of failure it would possibly find spare parts but it would take months to arrive, or so I think. The question of reliability I ask because these vehicles are manufactured for the offroad and I would not like to have breakdowns in the middle of a mountain far from any road. I have looked at the yamaha and can am atv but there is a lot of price difference between cf and other brands for that is my doubt, thank you very much for answering
single lever brakes? definitely not something i would want on my 4 wheeler. why not you ask. well if im climbing a hill and i happen to lose momentum and not make it, i can pull my front brake lever and back down the hill safely. putting any friction on the rear brake pads you risk the quad coming over on you. same with going down a hill, your rear brakes only need to be applied and in some extreme situations finesse the front brakes. you never want them both to be engaged at the same time all the time.
Good riders adapt, see ya.
Nothing but positive comments for CF Moto from people who actually own one. Lots of brand whores just picking what they’ve heard of before
Purchased a new 2019 Polaris 570 Sportsman EPS and got rid of it in 3 months due to several problems that the dealer and Polaris couldn't fix. Transmission overheating, sparkplug fouling, and constant squeaking, yes I lost my ass in the process.
What did you replace it with?
check out where Polaris puts the batteries on the sportsman 570 .not a great idea. gonna be submerged in water all the time
You can buy the Sportsman for just over 4k if you look around. CF moto dealers sell at MSRP. So you can actually get the Polaris cheaper so it's a real no brainer.
Polaris quality has fallen off for some time. They are offering lots of deals to try and keep up their sales.
*Who is a fan of Cfmoto 2021*
I hear you say inches and miles per hour but can you edit in some text that says it in the metric system???