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The interview was fantastic. I’m 73, and to me the answer to your question on what is vintage, it just depends on when you first started to listen to audio. So for me, is product that is from the 70s.
We are both certainly vintage then ! I have been refurbished some 20 years ago, it seems to have been done very well because I am still around and kicking ! I am quite rare too so I guess I am very valuable but I won't like to be placed on a collector shelf behind glass, I rather break apart !
I'm 61 and it is the same for me Chuck.
Thanks for sharing this chat, Steve - and I'm glad Herb gave some respect to JVC and Denon. Japanese manufacturers don't get enough love in audiophile circles, yet back in the day they put a ton of yen into R&D.
Thanks for watching!
This episode has a great “sound stage”. 3D. Steve is behind the camera and rightward. Herbs voice is perfectly placed where he sits. 😆
My Realme phone has Dolby Atmos which I thought was a gimmick till I watched this and Steve was about 6 feet to my right, outside the window.
Hilarious but true. Loving my computer system about now.
Funny that’s what crossed my mind as well even with my less than optimally placed AV speakers it felt as though everyone was sitting in my room as I watched this on my TV.
And I kept looking behind and around me to see what that ambient sound was.
Thanks guys
Great videos, i'm 32 and for some reason i love watching and listening all stuff vintage :)
Thank You Steve for this
Thanks Igor, thanks for watching. Steve
The reason Telefunkens 12AX7s were used in Fishers wasn’t because they were higher quality, but because they were cheaper than US made equivalents like RCA. In the original tube compliment in the 500, RCAs were speced in the tuner section, because they were considered to be higher tolerance. Think about the time frame. It was post war. There was still a lot skepticism around German made goods. It wasn’t until recently that the telefunkens have been considered superior
By Fisher, Dynaco, Marantz and others...you are right, they were cheaper and of better quality. The same goes for Mullard EL-34.
I like the saying goodbye: Peace and love and Herb repeating it. Such an important message.
Ringo ...
The big B&W loudspeaker you couldn't remember was likely the 6 foot tall B&W Matrix 800.
What a conversation, I thoroughly enjoyed watching you three discussing the vintage gear...
Love this stuff from people who know and can philosophize about it.
I have a Pioneer PL-71 besides a very early LP12 running through a Pioneer Spec 1 pre and a Spec 4 power amp, it sounds absolutely brilliant! I think there's a lot to be said for vintage, but each to their own, you only have to enjoy whatever you buy. Great video as usual, thanks!
Wonderful video a fireside chat on audio among friends.please continue.
43 year old modern and vintage guy here. Audiophiles in our forties are rare but we exist!
40 year old here. All vintage. TD124 \ Garrard 401 \ JBL \ Marantz \ HK. The industrial design drew me in.
You’ll find a lot of your age group watching my shows here!
~30 year old here. Even more rare in my generation... We're the CD to mp3/iPod generation. Most the guys my age are into headphones if they're into audio at all. I also love headphones.
But, there's something about restoring high end vintage gear. It has character. Even my wife has asked "you can sell everything else, but please don't sell that old Pioneer..." 😁
43 as well ; )
@@wedjr97 haha that's amazing, and true. There are much worse hobbies! ;) Plus, I've learned a lot from doing the restoration work myself.
You're 56 and won't get to see 58?! Ahh man, I hope that's not really the case. :(
Such a beautiful conversation!! Thanks Steve 👌🎉🎊
Fantastic talk, I’ve learnt so much by just listening to your interviews.
Thank you.
I DIY new old vintage stuff. All point to point wired the way it was 100 years ago. The tubes all out of production since the 80s. A couple from the 30s. Alnico drivers from the 60s. TDA1541a Dac chip from 92 but driven with SOTA master clock/FIFO buffer/Rpi. I like the nostalgic look and feel of tubes glowing while I drift off into the music. I like the look of choke fed power supplies that are easy to understand.
Does it sound as good as the best from 2021? I don't care.
I got real lucky buying a turntable. In fact buying this unit, Technics SL-1200-MK2 in matte black, got me started on this ever expanding journey into audio equipment. It was on eBay and I put in a bid that I didn’t think I’d win and went to sleep. When I awoke I was pleasantly surprised that I’d won. The turntable came with a travel case and a headshell. After reading more about vintage gear and watching TH-cams like this I realize how lucky I was to get a good working player like this.
Herb is the ultimate source of knowledge for audio and such a cool guy
Steve, what a great couple videos thanks for leaving it all in. Good call.
I could watch this all night... thanks guys.
MOre of this please, I'm a vintage audio enthusiast and there needs to be more more talk about it on the good audio channels like this one.
Thank you so much. I really appreciated that series. I got a lot from it.
NYC/BK gems for so many things. Where else is there this much modern history just in a few acres of land?
Some of the 70s Dual Turntables are real gems. Very heavy and well suspended.
Steve ,this and part one are among your coolest videos /!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep the vibes alive.
I perfectly remember the simpliest AR turntable. I owned it at the beginning of my HiFi passion. Thanks for sharing such memories.
Old Audio equipment is cool to talk about on how wonderful they were , But beware when buy old amps and receivers ,because usually they have many problems with in , Cap's leaking ,transistors bad and so on . And only a Audio technician can diagnosis or find these hidden problems .So I would recommend a agreement with the seller on having the Amp or receiver checked out on it's performance before dropping a load of money on something you remembered was great back in 1975 . The fun in Audio is yes acquiring some of this stuff ,but the fun is usually gone when you end up with a brick instead of a vintage working Amp . Philiac fan .
"Teetering on obsession???...." How bout "Taken a header off the precipice!...." Got into this by mistake with one piece from a used stereo shop when I was looking for a cheap preamp just to add tone controls to an old barn stereo. Two Citation 1's and a Citation 2 and two sets of Aletc's, (19's and Valencia's) later and I am still scouring the web looking for more tasty vintage pieces that I absolutely do not need. But the conversation was correct about vintage collectors. It's all 3, the looks, the sound, and the stuff you couldn't afford as a kid! Great discussions!
The power and wealth of knowledge here could light a small village...
...or a vintage tube amp 😎
You are the chosen one Adam!
That was a great show. Do more of these!
Great video! I've purchased a few items from High End Audio Auctions, including picking up a pair of Revel speakers from them in person in NYC, and have been very happy with their service.
I love my vintage gear. I purchased a Nakamichi 610 pre amplifier and a 600 tape deck in the 70’s for the aesthetics, nobs, buttons, meters or just the look and then replaced it with a minimalist Vacuum State FVP some years later for the sound quality, I’m still using both of these pre-amps although the FVP has been upgraded to the latest spec some 39 years later and I’m still loving the sound of it. I also have a Denon DP-55K with Grace 707 arm and a Goldring Lenco GL75 with PU-3 Syrinx arm both wonderful sound sources. I like my mix of analogue vintage and modern digital as it works for me.
I have bought a few pieces, Marantz 10B and Avalon Acoustics. First class act!
Excellent discussion, watched both parts. Thank you Steve.
Enjoyed this segment. Steve.Thank you, i used to have and old Pioneers 727 very first official receiver back in the day.3o watts, California sound but i do wish i had that it was nice.I sold it....Live and Learn.!!
And here I thought I was going to have to wait a day for part two. Thanks!!!
Seriously
This is magical, please keep them coming
Thanks, I’m gonna be visiting two recording studios very soon, watch for them!
18:07 Herb's OCD in action! "Herb's lint removal service"
Steve I believe the B&W model you were asking about is the Matrix 800.
Or was it the 808.
@@carmenandthedevil2804 tough to tell. When he was explaining them he was off camera and all I could picture is his hands going in all kinds of motions explaining the crazy angles of the cabs which would most likely be the matrix 800. Plus DiAgistino def did do a set of Krell crossovers for the Matrix 800
Love you guys!... I'll be telling my JBL L96s all about you.
I could not afford great hifi when I was younger. I did buy a low budget system in my teens from saved paper route money. It unfortunately was a huge disappointment. My brother had an older zenith system “all in one” it sounded fabulous. I have bought new amps receivers speakers “focal”. It always leaves me wanting more. They still make 8 10 12” woofers which command a premium amount of money. The vintage gear is overbuilt and beautiful. I try to buy gear that was too of the line for the particular series I want. I do a considerable amount of research before purchasing and often find I should be looking at this other model instead of the one I was interested in. So for exceptional sound, value and the sheen of a silver face is definitely attractive.
"With great power comes great responsibility"
That was fun ! I use exclusively vintage amplifiers , 70's Luxman , . speakers new . The new speakers seem to image better dollar for dollar to my experience. Love my old Lux gear . I've owned perhaps a dozen Lux pieces since I came across them in the 80s
Crazy talk! Peace and love :)
Funny how having had so much equipment in so many different live phases that I went through makes it hard to even remember some items. Your video had me reflect on my memory lane of what is now "vintage" equipment I had the pleasure of using in my listening spaces throughout the years.
• Garrard with shure cartridge
(my very first turntable which I modified to reduce mechanical noises from tonearm mechanism, turning it into a manual unit)
• Dual 1249 with Shure V15-III
• Micro Seiki with Shure cartridge (what a nice unit this was)
• TD 160 with Grado cartridge
• Dual 505 & Dual 515 with Grado
• TD-126 Mk III with SME tonear & Nagaoka MP11 Boron cartridge
(Dang I loved this turntable! I even modified the electronics and explored 3 spiked platerless LP playback with this device. It was a workhorse and could sing also if well setup)
• Rebel Revolver turntable with Linn Basik tonearm & cartridge
• Ariston RD11 with SME & Goldring cartridge
• Ariston RD-11S with Formula-4 Unipivot tonearm and Goldring 10-20 cartridge
(Still using that one when I listen to vinyl!)
• SoundStandard tube integrated receiver amp (my first amp!)
• Dynaco (used) SCA-80 integrated amp (always on to stay warm & ready for music!)
• B&O Beomaster 3000-2 Receiver amp (used to take it to school with 2 pairs of custom Philips full range loudspeakers to do classroom parties in 5th and 6th grade!)
• Rotel RV-555 receiver (compact and sturdy... I still have that)
• Pioneer receiver amp (cant remember model it's been so long ago, sx580 if I recall)
• Marantz receiver (with modified caps & power supply for more musical speed & torque!)
• Sears LXI Series 100W MOS FET DC Power Amp (Designed by Sherwood) Amp & Preamp.
That amp was also modified with better internal caps, cabling, proper banana binding posts... it was a killer machine! :)
• Luxman M-120A Amp & C-120A Preamp (I still use the preamp for my phono when transfering LP to my computer!)
• SAE Mark IXB Preamp with EQ (Still have & use it sometimes!)
• Realistic SCT-7 auto reverse cassette deck (solenoid reversing mechanism was the bomb!)
• Pioneer CT-F1000 Cassette deck (with awesome view meters!)
• TEAC V900X Tape deck with dbx (Loved that stuff!)
• Rotel RCD-855 CD Player (My first foray in digital at home sound... I still have that)
• dbx II DBX 128 (Compressor, Expander for music with some punch!)
• Burwen TNE 7000 Transient Noise Eliminator (kill those clicks n Pops! use with caution if you like to keep music alive!)
• ADC SS-110 10-Band Graphic Equalizer (Those chrome handles meant business!)
• Multiple Loudspeakers pairs including PHILIPS 2422-256 12” full range Alnico custom infinite baffle boxes...
• Some custom made Celestion driver based enclosures
• PSB Bookshelf speakers (not great)
• Spica TC-50 (Loved these units! Could really make you believe in being there under proper setup in my 12 x 20 listening room! Had to put them on stack of 2 LP crates with 3 Spikes between all parts of that stack.
• HEadphones? many including Sony, Koss Pro, AKG and Sennheiser Open Air units.
Well that covers memory lane for now as i am tired from revisiting my audio gears of the past.
It was fun, some of it is quite "vintage". I know I have forgotten some gear...
Who cares? it was a fun thing to do as a list that brought me smiles.
Cheers! :)
Wow, wow, wow!
The old B&W and Kef are sublime
Made in the UK
Hay, I’m a JVC turntable guy! My JL-A40 is absolutely fantastic! I wouldn’t part with it for ANYTHING!
i have for years a tube system that i kept as it was because it belonged to my grandfather but i don´t know if the brands ware out or if he took them from the devices but this was a late 50´s to early 70´s assembled system and i recentelly discover the brand Dynaco as some similar tube amplifiers but some brands all look the same but it sounds perfect the tuner is a tube tuner from HHscott, and the speakers that are two in mono look like pieces of furniture with wood work ,it makes an efect that even looking to the speakers the sound seems to come from nowhere it´s just a presence in the room, i only install a more modern turntable from pioneer with already diamond tip stylus ,still having the older with new needles to hear his records mainly big bands and jazz
To me, I classify audio equipment as follows:
New
Demo: (Newish)
Used (Late Model): Up to 5 years old
Used: 6 - 19 years old
Vintage: 20+ years old with coolness factor
Old: 20+ years old without coolness factor
Junk: Any age (e.g., Crosley all in one stereo / turntable)
Before starting Modern Audio Consultants and Importing ProAc
Speakers and Musical Fidelity amps,
I had a system a bit more hi end than
the Yamaha / JBL combo discussed here., The turntable being the Linn Lp 12
with the new Rega Arm ( 1979) ...Speakers were Teak Spendor
BC - 1's and also Rogers Ls 35a 's...
two British designs with Lots more
research into them than any USA
speaker at that time.
So no mention of ProAc Tablettes or
Celestion SL 6 's or SL 7's. and the
movement to high quality in a smaller
package.....which seems relevant.
Forget the seventies audio gear, I want my body back...Also my Dynaco III tube amps.
Me too
@@ralex3697 My family inheritance was arthritis. I'm falling apart like a leper on a trampoline.
That Fisher logo with the bird and the note in it's beak seems REALLY familiar to me. I'm wondering if my step dad didn't have a Fisher back in the 80's. He did custom upholstery back then, he hand built his own speaker cabinets, had a nice turntable, and later got a reel to reel player. I'm sure there was a cassette deck in there somewhere, but I don't remember it. I remember lots of cassettes, but I don't remember a player. Also, he was very particular about his records and how they were handled. I was just a kid and was never to touch his sound system.
Then there was my uncle who went to Radio Shack and bought a full Realistic rack stereo, with 4 matching speakers. I thought it sounded awesome. But what did I know about it?
Interesting discussion. I think in Part I, the gentleman on the left (I wish you could have put their names up - I might at some point want to call the fellow on the right if I were looking for a particular piece of gear) mentioned "Hollywood Good Looks" with regards to what sells some of this older gear and what immediately comes to mind are the Marantz receivers from the mid to late '70's. There is no way that they sound so much better than say a Sansui or Pioneer from the same time period to justify the $2,000 price tag some of them are commanding. Yes, they were well built but anything that old ages, the switches, transistors, capacitors, diodes, etc. I firmly believe, if you are going to "dabble" in Vintage Audio Gear, you need to have a good local repair shop that shares your love and is willing to advise you what to buy and what to avoid and also is willing to work on this stuff for a reasonable price. The fellow on the right let slip about turntables: sometimes people inquire about a "vintage turntable" and he says "sure, I can sell you one but you might want to consider a new one." I don't think there has ever been so many quality turntables at so many price points as there are right now with this unbelievable renaissance in vinyl. And Steve makes a point about buying this stuff off EBay. When it comes to this older stuff, few are totally honest. Years ago I bought two Advent Model 300 Receivers from two different sellers advertised as working. I figured at least one would. Nope. Neither. Luckily, that unit has a cult following and there are two, yes two, very good repair facilities, one slightly more expensive than the other. And they guarantee their work. They both work wonderfully and what a great phono stage - designed by Tomlinson Holman of THX fame.
That young fellow is the future. He needs to take a younger person under his wing to keep the passion going. Glad to see herb back great vidios today thanks
I remember a couple of choice record stores in the 70's that had these 𝙫𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙖𝙜𝙚 𝙧𝙞𝙜𝙨, with speaker placement breaking all the rules, (ie., shelf mounted up high) ...however my memory of these systems having this easy smoothness, a sumptuous liquidity that made 𝘦𝘷𝘦𝘳𝘺𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨 sound wonderful.
Marantz or Pioneer receivers, powering JBL or AR speakers.
Choice establishments like;
Nickle Bag, Wonderwall, Karma ... burning sandlewood incense and offering 𝙨𝙢𝙤𝙠𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙥𝙧𝙤𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙩𝙨 of course for 𝙩𝙤𝙗𝙖𝙘𝙘𝙤 𝙪𝙨𝙚 𝙤𝙣𝙡𝙮... under the glass at checkout.
Many of these establishments held on for years... only to succumb to low sales a few years before vinyl's resurgence.
If only ...
I think the thing with vintage is that you are getting something that was made to a higher design standard than what you can afford new. I think if you are passionate about audio but you don't get excited by new stuff, then you are probably into vintage. A big part of it is looks and feel. A lot of people just don't connect with new things and are looking for something that has ages well and perhaps feels timeless. I think vintage audio is kind of like vintage auto.90s Miatas and Tacomas are not that old and they weren't high end when they were new but their designs have stood the test of time and are now definitely vintage. Some people want a simple car with not classic styling and a more involved driving experience. They are not looking for a faster car, they're looking to get a lot of car for the money and a car they can love. Vintage audio is similar.
Thanks for a very mellow 40 minutes
It's a really interesting discussion and a lot of the discussion is highlighting what is revered, collectable or sought after for whatever reason. A lot of the time the reason is not necessarily because the stuff sounds good. I had vintage for years and recently sold everything to downsize. I then bought a cheaper system just so that I could still listen to my records. I didn't think the modern stuff would keep me interested but it actually does and sounds completely different but still really good. I also don't have a mortgage anymore because I used the money from the sale to pay it off. Next step retirement and travel the world without worrying about expensive hi fi sitting back at home in the house. Just my thoughts. Peace to all, enjoy the music, that's what matters, not the expensive boxes.
The B&W speaker you were asking about is a DM6.
Yeah. Any time someone says "what was that one weird B&W speaker?" it's *gotta* be the penguins.
Fun fun fun video!!! Never gave the question of “what is vintage” much of a thought… I guess my amp is “New Old Vintage” as it was made in 2012 but it is an old design, but then I use tubes made in 1944 and 1958…
I have a 1970s dealer display model for a 1970s turntable. Pioneer. It's got a mirror showing the circuit board and circuit boards have these reverse lettering signs with a mirror showing the underside. It's encased in this huge Lucite box. It also plays records. I paid way over the eBay value for it but anybody remember these? It's skeletonized by Lucite to show off its features.
The value for that turntable.
I bought my vintage, c1980, Sansui AU217 MkII amplifier out of nostalgia. It was around at the same time I was just starting out on my hi-fi journey and I loved the look of it. Beautiful black with chunky toggle switches and it was well reviewed to boot.
Cosmetically it was filthy, the case was stained and it wasn’t running, but I enjoy a challenge. Whilst I could fix it, I wasn’t going to be satisfied with the horror story that was the internal wiring or the RCA connectors or, especially the micro speaker binding posts. This wasn’t exclusively a Sansui problem back in the day. I saw a vintage Luxman amp up for sale recently and it had the same issues on the back plate.
For those who like a happy ending, I am pleased to report that, having thrown the kitchen sink at this amp, it now looks pristine and, more importantly, sounds fantastic. The original transistors proved to be working, a big plus as they are unobtainium, whilst most other parts were replaced with far superior modern equivalents. The connectors on the back are all new, non-ferrous, gold plated and the crusty old 22 gauge wire was replaced with Neotech OCC copper. The old board which carried the RCA sockets was binned too. The speaker output wires were routed directly to the speaker posts, cutting out the double run past the transformer to the headphone socket on the front panel.
For those who are interested, the components comprised, DNM smoothing caps, Elna Silmic II for the remaining electrolytics, MKP polyprops. Mills wire wound and Takman metal film resistors completed the job.
Not quite a “no expense spared” rebuild, but not far off, and it has pride of place in my study system. To keep it company I found an unused matching TU217 FM tuner, and I had previously scratch rebuilt a period SR222 MkII turntable, with a Goldring G1042 doing pick up duty. CD is more modern, being an Arcam CD82.
As you can probably tell, I love vintage systems, but I’m definitely in the restoration rather than preservation camp. I’m not going to put up with a bunch of tired old parts that were seriously compromised in their day, let alone by today’s standards, when I can have so much fun rebuilding and upgrading.
Seventies turntables. Micro Sekeis were beautiful. Rega was in the game back then.
There was a local bar that had a JBL Paragon on a stage for entertainment.
In Europe the Thorens are the most wanted still afordable oldies.The Thorens 165 is the prefered version.
The price of old Klipsch is held down by Klipsch continuing to sell nearly identical speakers. And plenty of owners saying the newer ones sound better.
I like my JBL L65s. Pioneer 9500IIs amplifier/tuner, Technics turntable. All 1978.
Great video I know it would have been difficult but would have been awesome if pics of some the components popped up.
Love these episodes!! 👍🍾🎈
The JVC turntables he's referring to are actually Kenwoods. The KP-9010, KP-990, etc that have cast metal X frame and the plinth is really a cover that's not really functional. People strip that off and run them naked. Also, the Denons have a magnetic strip on the inside of the platter and that's read by a tape head. The magnetic strip doesn't dry out but bad caps can cause problems wih the motor control circuitry. The Kenwoods are great and so are the Denons.
part 3, part 3, part 3!!!!! :-)
I have a Denon DP-60L in mint condition (bought it new in '79 or '80).
If there is a "gun Jesus" (and there is), there has got to be space for Hi-Fi Jesus.
If you think that Jesus is pro gun you clearly out of your mind. Check what Jesus said about enemies. He didnt Say treat your enemies with freshly bought Guns at the store. I See americans has very twisted point of view on christianity. Jesus is weeping
Absolutely brilliant
I heard a pair of Wilson Wamm speakers once and they sounded like a bunch of good drivers that didn't blend together well. After hearing KLH 9 electrostatic speakers I was done with conventional speakers. Have been listening to Acoustat X's for 40 years and have yet to hear better.
I would love a Sppectral preamp. I could not afford one, so I ended up with a threshold FET 10HL, that I also lusted after
Rel-O-Kit turn table I found used and I mounted Zeta arm on it with a Dynavector Ruby
Great episode..I often wonder where the Mac equipment Adam bought from me went to.
Great piece. For me, 'vintage' does not mean simply 'old'. Rather, vintage is both older and 'distinguished' in some way that makes it interesting - design, performance, technically, historically, or simply but very importantly nostalgia for the individual. Also, it does not have to be 'used'. Being 'used' is not remarkable. Conceivably, you might discover something really old still new in the box, but it would still be vintage for the other reasons'. Anyway, to place myself time-wise, I'm 60's/70's/80's vintage, and until the mid 80's mostly had middle to upper middle 'consumer' - Dynaco, Sansui, Marantz. My turntable path included the ARxa, Rek-O-Kut with Gray arm, Pioneer PL-41, Technics SL1200 (initial version), Stanton 681E carts, no turntable at all from 1985 to around 2017, then Harman Kardon T40 and T60, both modified to outboard power, and plinths and platters modified internally with sound/vibration deadener - heap dark. Other than 80's vintage KEF Q50 standing speakers, the rest of my gear is much more recent and consumer line Klipsche, Onkyo, Schiit Mani's and Nagaoka MP110 carts.
Pioneer direct drive turntables from mid-70s. I have a PL71 and prefer it to my Garrard 401. Many of the top of the range direct drive Japanese turntables from this period are still working superbly. Couple with a vintage Shure V15iii and you are done. The Shure V15s are great because the tracking is and was superb. I don't know what moving coils are like now but in those days the Shure retained good, stable sound when almost everything else started to distort.
Shipping turntables is a NIGHTMARE!
This was fun.
I had old Luxman and Altec Integrated amps, superb
I grew up in the 70’s, I’m 62
vintage can often sound better than hi end current offerings. need to know how to restore them though
Or know someone who can. Id pay someone to do it if i were to get another 70s piece
Im happy to have reliable Service guy here in Europe.
I have always loved the idea of vintage , the build quality, the style but in the end I don’t have the patience fore it and can never find a suitable repair shop to keep it going.
We want more!!!!!
Nelson and Paul McGowan both had Wadia CD Players. Nelson had to shelve his because the Pioneer transport mechanism was no longer available when his went on the fritz and he could not find a replacement. This is not too long ago in my recollection.
Hello Steve! I hope you read and respond to this, but at 13:19 in this video you’re asking about a particular B&W speaker that no one seemed to know the answer to. You were obviously using your hands to describe the shape of the speaker but we, the viewers can’t see you. Are you talking about the B&W Nautilus that retails for $60k a pair? If not, I’d sure like to know what model you’re speaking about.
Thank you Steve! Love your show, I’ve never missed an episode.
Loving the livingroom comment - how does it small - what are they cooking?
Don't know when part one came out? I've been looking down the video's list.....
Heartbreaking when when the music 🎵 stops 🥲
Nelson Pass finally got his JBL L-300 Summit speakers several years ago.
Nelson pass is a real collector as Steve has first-hand knowledge of. I was amazed to see some of the collectibles that Nelson has in his home.
I built a Fisher XP 200B integrated amp when they were making kits. I also built an FM 80 tuner from Fisher. I was 15 years old at the time. Sounded great through Goodman speakers.
@@keplermission4947
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Nelson Pass has great taste in speakers too, as he also loves the classic dual concentric Tannoys, which have that effortless "in the room" quality that few other speakers (except the big classic JBLs, Altecs, EVs, and Klipsches) possess.
My speakers are definitely Vintage. 1974 Gale 401A's being driven by 300/500 watts with a 30 amp mains circuit.
I think what I love most about HR is how completely and passionately full of it he is. But when you work for a publication called Subjectophile, I guess that comes with the territory.
Steve, you really should pay a video visit to Keith O. Johnson of Reference Recordings In Pacifica CA, while he is still with us. He's up there but still is at the top his game tho for how much longer?
That would be one for some saving, alright.
One of his great recountings is about the time when Lew Wasserman -- then chief honcho of MCA himself -- showed up to a one-on-one lunch at the Beverly Hills Hotel, this to secure patents (if I might recall correctly) during the early Disc-O-Vision days, leading then to LaserDisk. I suppose that this in-person appearance of his, was to make damn sure that nothing would go wrong.
He has dozens of tales relating to the early equipment days and especially tape, and recording of course.
I'd get on it if I were you. Tell him I sent you.
I like my DP52 Denon turntable. Still works great.
I guess hifi will always be the strange mix and alchemy of sound, technology, visual design and aesthetics, history and nostalgia and emotion.
And we can all look back to both our own and other systems that we have listened to and experienced over the years...where there have been so many moments of pure bliss, pleasure, amazement and wonder
And even though equipment comes and goes there was always certain products that stood out as being special or were fab but just out of reach. So some will naturally want to go back and revisit these products see if they still do that magic...or not! Much like all vintage things and collectables I guess.
Wonder if my Nakamichi System One from the late 70s I sold seven years ago was vintage? Miss that amp. I still have and use my Technics SL1800 and Stanton 681 EEES and an Ortofon M20e Super. I’m like Steve- I like new gear…interesting discussion.
What are they cooking in their kitchen stew pot? They're cooking the guy who beat them to the previous thing they wanted to buy.
How many ways are there to bias a 12AX7A or a KT88?
Too bad you didn't know to adjust the wing nuts on the underside of your Empire 598 Steve. You'd still have it and the prices went way up. The engineering and precision manufacturing that went into that brand was crazy obsessive. Minus 90 db unweighted rumble.
Killer stuff again, Steve!
The great mainstream gear from Japan in the early 70s, from Kenwood, Pioneer, Sansui, Technics, Marantz, Yamaha, JVC, and others, was the first foray into great sound for us Hippie music lovers who were just becoming adults, and striking out on our own at that time. We couldn't afford high end stuff like McIntosh, Luxman, and Threshold, but we loved looking at it and dreaming. And, we were too young to know about vintage tube gear, like Dynaco, Fisher, Scott, and the classic tube Marantz and McIntosh stuff. We loved loud, efficient, and dynamic speakers, like JBL. Cerwin Vega, Klipsch, and ESS, over the polite East Coast speakers from, AR, KLH, Allison, and similar types, but we did like KEF, ADS, Epi, and Polk, but we hated Bose 901s! Of course, LS35As didn't work for the rock music we listened to. And we preferred punchy direct drive turntables with S shaped tonearms, like Technics, Pioneer, and other Japanese brands, to belt drive ones from AR, Dual, and the like. We also liked the dynamic and punchy MM cartridges from ADC, Pickering, Empire, Stanton, Shure, and AT, to the MC Ortofons. And, it seems that in some ways we were right, judging by today's marketplace. Most hi-fi speakers made today are closer to the dynamic and punchy sound we liked then, and there are very few that sound like the dull and soft speakers from that era. And, direct drive seems to be making a comeback in high end tables. But, a lot of the desirability for vintage gear is nostalgia based, from those trying to relive their youth. It's the same with guitars. I have never played a vintage Strat or Tele that's any better than a good new MIA one. But, acoustics are different. A great vintage Martin is better than any made today, though not all old ones are good. There are some dogs too, 'cause each piece of wood is different.
Thanks all!