In the late 90's I built the Schneider Sonax Mercedes and later the D2 Mercedes (about 85 decals for that car..lol) I loved building the DTM cars of old, from the Alpha to the Merc's
the car industrie doesnt want to see , that the 90s was the best decade of car design. look at lamborghini diablo, look at bmw e30 look at Mercedes W124, look at Mercedes E190, BMW Z3, BMW E36, Audi A4, Audi A6, etc.
@@motoessentials I was there with my brother at the time at several races, including Diepholz, also near Wunstorf in Lower Saxony, Wunstorf airfield race east of the Steinhuder Meer and in Berlin on the AVUS - it was a great time.
At least you could drive a relatively similar car on the street back then and have fun. Even the street versions of the current GT3 cars are way too fast now. Only way to really have fun with those cars are to track them…
Well I suppose but there is always a market for the ‘street’ side of motorsport. You can have fun with them in a civilised way with meets and spirited drives.
but what Peugeot engines, but where do you originate such nonsense? Do you know that Peugeot built and supplied engines to the Alfa Romeo racing team for the DTM championship? and where were the Peugeot engineers in the garage? hidden in the closet perhaps? the regulations stipulated that the engines used for the cars were derived from the series, but what exactly had to be taken from the series engine? the same angle of the v and the same distance between the cylinders. stop. so was it necessary to use the block of that engine? no absolutely, it was only necessary to respect these 2 parameters and these parameters had to match the measurements taken by an engine used by the brand in series production. for the first 3 years, an engine derived from the V6 Busso Alfa Romeo was used, with a 60 degree inclination. but the v of 60 degrees gave some limitations and therefore engineer Limone opted for a 90 degrees. In Alfa Romeo production there was only one engine with a 90 degree V, and it was the Montreal V8, but this engine had a cylinder spacing that was too small. Searching through the documents, it was discovered that for a few years, the Lancia belonged to Alfa Romeo and in the Thema model, the V6 PRV engine was installed, which was the only V6 produced in Europe with a 90 degree inclination. consequently for the 96 season, both engines were homologated, one derived from the Montreal V8 and the other derived from the PRV, but only the second was used on the competing cars. but the Peugeot people don't even know what the Alfa Romeo ITC engine is. so, let's not talk nonsense.
@@motoessentials the championship was over, it wouldn't have lasted anyway, the fia at the hands of Ecclestone did everything to kill this championship. the cars had become as expensive as a Formula 1 and the minimum use of 6 cars was imposed, therefore, the costs exceeded those of F1. Then the FIA had put races on the calendar which forced the teams to race in Japan today and the following week on the other side of the world, with unsustainable shipping costs for the machines and materials and also in some races, the teams were forced to purchase 10,000 tickets for the grandstands. the championship was annoying and was abolished.
@@motoessentials what does it have to do with today? where is the ITC championship held today? Did I miss something? no, because the ITC championship no longer exists. the DTM championship died in 1995 and from its ashes, the ITC championship was born, held in just one season, 1996. the old DTM, combined with the ITC, had a very important following and began to compete with F1, especially in terms of it concerned the sponsors, who were starting to abandon f1 in favor of the dtm, this caused a lot of annoyance at the top levels and everything was done to suppress the championship, with absurd rules and timetables designed to make life difficult for the teams. in 2000 the DTM championship returns, but it has nothing to do with the old one, especially as regards its media relevance, which is not at all comparable to that of the 90s. Furthermore, today we race with cars strictly derived from the series. We need to clarify one thing, the ones we see in this video are not the Opel Calibra, Alfa 155 and Mercedes 190 or Class C. but they are prototypes dressed with the bodywork of production cars. as I had already explained in my other comment on the engine, the regulations stipulated that it was necessary to respect the dimensions of the production cars chosen to compete, but did not impose the use of the original bodywork. the 155 of the dtm had nothing taken from the standard one, it only had a carbon fiber bodywork which faithfully reproduced the standard one, but this did not cover the chassis of the standard 155, but covered the body of a prototype. if you open the rear bonnet of a 155 itc, you will see the asphalt underneath, in the bulkhead of the rear seats, you will see the active push rod suspension, if you remove the front bonnet, you will not see an engine installed inside an engine compartment, but you will see an engine that it also acts as a load-bearing element of the body. essentially, those cars were F1 cars with covered wheels. and as such, they had very high costs. Today, the DTM is raced with GT cars, which are something completely different.
Modestement. J.ai possède 3 alfa Roméo. 75. Tubo AMerica . Moteur garent T 3 turbo...en propulsion..un jouet. Extraordinaire sur. Le mouillé. (( j adore. Voir les alpha. Pilotées par LARINI. Et surtout. NANINI..carrière brisée en F1..(( j ai une profonde. Admiration pour. Bern. SCHNEIDER. IL PILOTE QUI. ETAIT. EN MESURE D ALLER. PLUS. QUE jEAN ALESI ..en DTM. Avec la. Même voiture. C est. DiRE. Etetc
In the late 90's I built the Schneider Sonax Mercedes and later the D2 Mercedes (about 85 decals for that car..lol) I loved building the DTM cars of old, from the Alpha to the Merc's
Wow if you can any pics from back then, please send them my way
You mean you built models of said cars?
Even today the best looking car series
Best music too 🕺
the car industrie doesnt want to see , that the 90s was the best decade of car design.
look at lamborghini diablo, look at bmw e30 look at Mercedes W124, look at Mercedes E190, BMW Z3, BMW E36, Audi A4, Audi A6, etc.
And all the japanese Cars my friend@@user-cd5dt4lf2l
Good old days and legendary cars...Classics never gets boring.👌👍
Something special about the speed and how they took the curbs.
The golden years of Motorsports
My whole childhood! The feeling I have watching this reminds me of being a boy with my father. Good times 😢
Happy I can remind you of good times
Golden Era ! thanks from Brazil !
ドイツtouringCarレースを見てBENZ 190EV2 が好きになり
現車を購入しました♪Happy Day ❤🎉アウディクワトロは4WD、アルファRomeoも4WDでした
BENZ 190EV2 はFR 車で車の性能とドライバーの術が素晴らしいと思います🎉
バトルが最高ですねgood 👍🎉、素晴らしい動画を見て感激です有難うございますJapan🎉❤
さらに多くの DTM 動画が登場します
@@motoessentials さん
期待しています。
@@watanabeisamu1461 来月は BMW の完全な映画が公開されます
Yes, this car is an outstanding styler, very cool in an overall strong lineup of cars...
Wow, the Mustang...so much distinctive between all that Daimler and BMW/Alfas.
Looks out of place but such was the era
Thank you for posting this! Great times!
I’m finding more
i was very lucky to be able to go to the Donington Park round - what a fantastic weekend that was.
Very lucky. You can go to the legends races now but not sure how often they are held. Was one last year at the Nurburgring
Its on my to do list - i have watched it online but never been. @@motoessentials
Golden era of motorsport!
Awesome!! nothing like the crap we have today!!
I still like todays racing. It's clean and cars look great
@@motoessentialsBut todays DTM is just another GT3 series. Dull.
@@samuelgarrod8327 Mmmmmmm G.T.3
@@HisMastersAlibi But it's more GT3. I remember when DTM cars were a thing. People that prefer todays charade were never fans of the real DTM.
So good to see these footages
Really worth watching it
Thank you for posting brother
My pleasure bro
Master Narator Martin Haven...!
He's still around too for the WEC.
I miss him during commentary in WTCC/WTCR 😊
190e vs e30 one of best motorsport rivalry in history
I am not sure, but BMW was not a winner car back then?!
Alfa Romeo 155 had a power of 420 hp. and had no competitors, unless Mercedes with 370 hp.
👍👍👍
Best time ever
killer intro
Team Thiim, yayayaya
This is so weird DTM is racing at the airport 😂😂😂
Diepholz airfield I believe
@@motoessentials 👍
@@motoessentials
I was there with my brother at the time at several races, including Diepholz, also near Wunstorf in Lower Saxony, Wunstorf airfield race
east of the Steinhuder Meer and in Berlin on the AVUS - it was a great time.
@@horsthumbug1612 You’re very lucky to be there in person. I wasn’t even born until ‘94
@@horsthumbug1612 Can you share some pics with me via email if you took any please
I grew up with this kind of a good old hi school e190 DTM before JDM it's open race BMW not even popular see alfa class Benz. This are my dreams this,
At least you could drive a relatively similar car on the street back then and have fun. Even the street versions of the current GT3 cars are way too fast now. Only way to really have fun with those cars are to track them…
Well I suppose but there is always a market for the ‘street’ side of motorsport. You can have fun with them in a civilised way with meets and spirited drives.
😼⚡️🏁
Is it possible to buy this with english commentary on dvd?
I think you can still get it on eBay. I think it’s called ‘DVD Special’ and has DTM 1993
Mercedes was running on 4-cyl Merc engines , BMW had 4-cyl BMW engines. Alfa however had other plans and was racing 6-cyl Peugeot engines.
Even after engine/rule changes, Opel and Alfa both left in 1996
but what Peugeot engines, but where do you originate such nonsense? Do you know that Peugeot built and supplied engines to the Alfa Romeo racing team for the DTM championship? and where were the Peugeot engineers in the garage? hidden in the closet perhaps? the regulations stipulated that the engines used for the cars were derived from the series, but what exactly had to be taken from the series engine? the same angle of the v and the same distance between the cylinders. stop. so was it necessary to use the block of that engine? no absolutely, it was only necessary to respect these 2 parameters and these parameters had to match the measurements taken by an engine used by the brand in series production. for the first 3 years, an engine derived from the V6 Busso Alfa Romeo was used, with a 60 degree inclination. but the v of 60 degrees gave some limitations and therefore engineer Limone opted for a 90 degrees. In Alfa Romeo production there was only one engine with a 90 degree V, and it was the Montreal V8, but this engine had a cylinder spacing that was too small. Searching through the documents, it was discovered that for a few years, the Lancia belonged to Alfa Romeo and in the Thema model, the V6 PRV engine was installed, which was the only V6 produced in Europe with a 90 degree inclination. consequently for the 96 season, both engines were homologated, one derived from the Montreal V8 and the other derived from the PRV, but only the second was used on the competing cars. but the Peugeot people don't even know what the Alfa Romeo ITC engine is. so, let's not talk nonsense.
@@motoessentials the championship was over, it wouldn't have lasted anyway, the fia at the hands of Ecclestone did everything to kill this championship. the cars had become as expensive as a Formula 1 and the minimum use of 6 cars was imposed, therefore, the costs exceeded those of F1. Then the FIA had put races on the calendar which forced the teams to race in Japan today and the following week on the other side of the world, with unsustainable shipping costs for the machines and materials and also in some races, the teams were forced to purchase 10,000 tickets for the grandstands. the championship was annoying and was abolished.
@@lucaiervasi8515 Now you have modernity. A well planned out calendar across only Europe. Gives teams more time to prepare and test.
@@motoessentials what does it have to do with today? where is the ITC championship held today? Did I miss something? no, because the ITC championship no longer exists. the DTM championship died in 1995 and from its ashes, the ITC championship was born, held in just one season, 1996. the old DTM, combined with the ITC, had a very important following and began to compete with F1, especially in terms of it concerned the sponsors, who were starting to abandon f1 in favor of the dtm, this caused a lot of annoyance at the top levels and everything was done to suppress the championship, with absurd rules and timetables designed to make life difficult for the teams. in 2000 the DTM championship returns, but it has nothing to do with the old one, especially as regards its media relevance, which is not at all comparable to that of the 90s. Furthermore, today we race with cars strictly derived from the series. We need to clarify one thing, the ones we see in this video are not the Opel Calibra, Alfa 155 and Mercedes 190 or Class C. but they are prototypes dressed with the bodywork of production cars. as I had already explained in my other comment on the engine, the regulations stipulated that it was necessary to respect the dimensions of the production cars chosen to compete, but did not impose the use of the original bodywork. the 155 of the dtm had nothing taken from the standard one, it only had a carbon fiber bodywork which faithfully reproduced the standard one, but this did not cover the chassis of the standard 155, but covered the body of a prototype. if you open the rear bonnet of a 155 itc, you will see the asphalt underneath, in the bulkhead of the rear seats, you will see the active push rod suspension, if you remove the front bonnet, you will not see an engine installed inside an engine compartment, but you will see an engine that it also acts as a load-bearing element of the body. essentially, those cars were F1 cars with covered wheels. and as such, they had very high costs. Today, the DTM is raced with GT cars, which are something completely different.
Альфа шикарная
One of the best looking for sure
Is that a very young Martin Haven on commentary?
I’d have to check the dvd again but I think you’re right
Alfa Romeo won
Where are the BMW e30s😅 weird to see them riding in the back while they where former champions
The M3s were ran by Linder Motorsport, Auto Maass and Kaucuk Motorsport. 1994 had 5 teams running M3 and their variants.
Modestement. J.ai possède 3 alfa Roméo. 75. Tubo AMerica . Moteur garent T 3 turbo...en propulsion..un jouet. Extraordinaire sur. Le mouillé. (( j adore. Voir les alpha. Pilotées par LARINI. Et surtout. NANINI..carrière brisée en F1..(( j ai une profonde. Admiration pour. Bern. SCHNEIDER. IL PILOTE QUI. ETAIT. EN MESURE D ALLER. PLUS. QUE jEAN ALESI ..en DTM. Avec la. Même voiture. C est. DiRE. Etetc
Yea, the Alfas are so nice but the Mercs are the stars for me
A. Nannini is my Italian doppelgänger. I owned an Alfa Spider Veloce.