Everyone says Soyinka looks like Morgan Freeman. Wole Soyinka is the legendary Nigerian author, poet, playwright, essayist, and political activist, and was the first black person to win the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1986.
I love Wole Soyinka but for histrionic facts he was not the first Black Person to win Noble Prize. 1950 Ralph Johnson Bunche was the first African American to win. Dr Martin Luther King also awarded it in 1967 a few years after his death.
When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. Desmond Tutu
This statement is misleading. I think the Africans didn't give away their land to the missionaries. Rather, they gave their lands to the colonialist - not missionaries. And the land was not taken from them. They gave it. away.
It has been my personal experience that when people become bible thumping, church going Christians that it dosent really change their behavior for the better. It just makes them incapable of feeling guilt for their sins.
Hmmm 🤔 not the ones I've met. I feel awful shame and guilt when I make mistakes and sins and errors. Having faith does not always make you think oh it'll be fine now Jesus died for me. I think your just saying something negative for the sake of it because for me personally....that isn't true.
You're bonkers most Christians feel immense guilt to the point of chopping of their hand if used to sin' as some ex Policeman friends told me when they found many teens in a suicide. How's that for guilt? Jewish ruled Politicians feel NO remorse for all their lies!
Y'all, this isn't Morgan Freeman, this is the person Morgan Freeman portrays in his movies, the first black man to win the nobel prize in literature. This man is a national treasure to Nigerians.
Exactly! Africans like the Aksumites and Copts were Christians before the European Romans. European forms of Christianity was a force for evil. Not Christianity as a whole.
@@oforimensah4711 Romans wrote the Bible so you can worship a God they killed to show off the Roman Power and make you feel guilty of your own existence instead of blaming the Roman who put you in that suffering.
@@zwebb7327 the empire hell the fourth reich!!! Alive and well I ran into a German lebensborn bred programmed when he was 9yrs old to b a soldier!!! Strong smart etc anything u can think of a super soldier to be he's now old and decrepit knows of senators and governers ppl in high places that were in the 3rd Reich living in U.S. today!!!!!
In an empire yes. But I doubt that it's Roman. I know that Where I live, we are being slowly being taken over by China, and hopefully with the help of Coronavirus the takeover will stop. But we also know that the United States, under the guise of Self-protection is playing a "World-Policing" role already, but that it is the Vatican (which is a sovereignty in its own rights) that owns most of the gold in the world which is our only alternative replacement for/of currency. So the head will make itself visible soon I think, maybe even in our lifetime.
If Christianity is right, then having respect for the opinions of people who are leading themselves to hell would be to advocate their demise. If I say red means stop and green means go, and someone else believes it's the other way around, it's not that I don't respect them, it's that I love them and I don't want them to die in traffic. If we love people, it's not a matter of us not having respect for others, it's a matter of us wanting to set people free from the prison of thinking that God doesn't love them which they don't even realize they are in. The love of God hurts those who choose to trust what the world tells them, but the love of God frees those who choose to believe what His Word tells them, and you shouldn't criticize a system of belief for being sincere, honest, and loving, by falsely labeling what true Christianity is as disrespectful. Christ dying for our sins to set us free from them is anything but disrespectful.
@@franklee8483 and, if Christianity is wrong, they're sinning by lying and fearmongering and dragging people away from paths that they were happy on. They may even be dragging people down to hell with themselves, if it turns out the other people were right all along. It's both entitled and narcissistic to assume that you're more correct that other people based on no evidence.
@@catatoblob8598 You said, "based on no evidence", even though Christianity itself is the basic logical conclusion anyone with even just a decent amount of sense would come to if they weren't self-focused and instead were willing to acknowledge the evidence that the entire universe offers them every single day. Christianity is the only religion that isn't merely based on either philosophy or unverifiable claims, but historical accounts that can be verified by extra biblical sources, not to mention fulfilled prophecies that cannot be denied when honestly evaluated. Not to mention if Christianity weren't the one true faith in the world, then why is it that there is a spirit of anti-Christ everywhere you look in our fallen world of sin and selfish greed? But there isn't a spirit of anti-Buddha, or anti-Hindu, or anti-Daoism, etc. everywhere in the world because people who are self-focused don't want the truth of their behavior made known to them, and Christianity is the only religion that forces people to face the wickedness of their own depravity in rebellion against God (against Love itself). This is why Christianity makes people angry, because it forces them to acknowledge the Truth, the truth of themselves, and the truth of God, and the truth of the value He has placed upon the life of every human soul, and that is evidence in and of itself that Christianity is the only path to the Truth. But it goes even further, because logical deduction alone brings you to Christ, because the universe couldn't exist without a God, and an infinite and eternal God would not create a universe of unimaginable suffering which He himself would have to be subjected to unless He had a sufficient reason for doing so (Love), being that an infinite and eternal being would be all-consuming, meaning anything that happens within his creation He himself would have to endure (suffering). Psalm 139:8, "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." Without the love of God being given to us, we wouldn't be able to see the light in the darkness of our self-deception, and even though the Truth of God's love for us comes with a certain amount of pain due to our rebellion against him, it is only by pushing through that pain that we can be brought into the light on the other side. Christ is the one who tore that veil, and without him all we have are opinions, but he is the Truth, and through his love for us we can know the Love of God for us, but only if we accept it by accepting what he did for us, both on the cross and in the tomb, when he conquered the death that sin leads us to, because he gave us the power to overcome it and to roll the stone away. You say there's no evidence, but every man and woman on the face of the Earth whose life has been utterly transformed for good, who have been brought out of the darkness of self-deception and into the love of God, they are testimonies to the glory and the Truth of God's Word. They are the evidence, every other religion falls short. So here is a comment from a friend of mine who put it very nicely explaining how Christianity can be concluded by basic common sense... (another post)
@@catatoblob8598 JAY DEE: "Man Eleazar, for someone who makes a lot of claims about the Bible, you sure don't understand it very well. Abraham's son was not meant to be sacrificed. God showed Abraham that because Abraham was willing to obey God (Love - 1st John 4:8) to whatever extent Love / God commanded him, God would send his own Son to take the place of man, so that our own son's (like Abraham's) would not have to pay their own price. But in order to receive that gift, one must be willing to accept it, which means not squandering it by choosing to pursue sin instead of God, / Love, because that is not acceptance, it's rejection. A God of love would not force his will upon anyone, because forced intimacy (making someone do what you want) otherwise known as rape, isn't something that a God of love would ever do. And Yes, we can know for certian that if there is a God, who has a mind, He is Love in his very nature and in his character, and NO, it isn't wishful thinking. Why? Because of simple logical deduction, and basic common sense. I'll elaborate: Everything that comes into existence has a cause, and everything produced by a cause contains attributes of the cause that created it. For example a cause cannot produce an object that can move unless its cause (or its creator) is capable of momentum itself. An apple seed cannot produce an orange tree, something without a mind cannot produce a thought, etc. The only known source of information that human beings know of is a mind. For example if you see a coded symbol written in a language delivering information, you know a mind is behind it. And what do we know about all life? DNA is a chemical language encoded by symbols as a means of delivering specific information necessary for anything alive to exist. All living things move towards that which is desirable and away from that which is undesirable, and willpower removes obstacles from its path. If a living mind has been produced into the world, then a mind was necessary to create it because nothing can produce something which it does not possess inherently. A mindless universe cannot produce a mind, much like a chicken egg cannot come into existence unless there is a chicken to lay the egg. The science all points to Deism, so how do we then get to Christian Theism, here we go: If there is a mind powerful enough to create the universe, then nothing can stop it from pursuing that which is most desirable for it. The most desirable thing that all human beings know of is love, and when we look at every other emotion besides love we see that love is responsible for all of it. Every other emotion is a byproduct of love itself; for example even hatred is only the product of someone losing what they love. If you hate the taste of something, it is only because it took away the neutral state of comfort you normally enjoy when you aren't tasting anything and then it replaced that neutrality with something worse. You loved the neutral state, you lost it for something worse, now you hate that which took away what you loved, etc. Every other emotion is contingent upon love, our emotions determine how we feel, and what we feel determines what we desire, and as we have already established all forms of life (with minds) move towards that which is desirable. If God exists, He transcends all of that which we see in existence but contains all of the needed components necessary to create it. If our desires all revolve around love, stem from love, and are based on love, then love is the central beginning and end of every mind, the alpha and the omega of consciousness. God is self-aware because self-awareness is present in the universe, and God is the central beginning and end of everything that exists, including consciousness. So what is God? God is love, the thing around which all life orbits, specifically self-reflective intelligent life (the capacity to think about thinking), which is something only human beings possess. because as the Bible says we are made in the image of God. Life without love is like life without life, it simply doesn't work, and by trying to remove that which is the center of all life you are only creating an infinite void which only the one who belongs on that throne can fill. People can do that if they want, because God is love, and He has given us free will, but there are consequences which come with doing so, just like there are consequences for walking into a mine-field (sin) without a mine-detector (God's Word). You can do that if you want, but when you hear the click and you look around for someone to save you, and no one is there, remember, no one is there because you chose for no one to be there. Psalm 50:22, "Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you to pieces, and there be none left to rescue". Revelation 14:10, “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:” and finally John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." Why? Because God is Love, but He is also infinitely Just, and the cross is the place where God's righteousness (His Justice) and his Love (His Mercy) meet, and salvation is the place where forgiveness and repentance meet. That's why the cross was necessary, to show us what it is we are truly doing when we sin, to give us the Spirit (the inspirational force) to repent and to turn to God for forgiveness. You could however turn away from sin, and receive the Spirit whom Jesus died on the cross to give, where every sin is washed away, where failures cannot be mentioned unto those within, where peace reigns eternal, where righteousness leads the way, and where that old reflection in the mirror has a permanent smile stretched across it that no one can ever take from you. Matthew 7:14, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." where "God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things have passed away." - Revelation 12:4 I'll pray for you, but until you kneel before God yourself, and say your own prayer to him personally, for God to answer my prayer He's going to have to hit you with some Truth that you may not like very much until you have willfully chosen to receive it. Until then, the Truth to those who reject is like Hell, because "our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12:29. But once you have accepted him, He is like paradise, "the fountain of living water" - Jeremiah 17:13"
@@franklee8483 I'm not seeing any evidence. I'm sure those Native Americans you guys converted and gave small pox to had their lives totally improved by xtianity. Not to mention all those random women you burnt at the stake.
I had been Christian for 10 years and all i got was mental illness from it. Constant guilt trip, fear of hell, no clear answer to alot of things (bible is ambiguous). It gave me depression and internal monologue in my head(hearing God’s voice but it’s my subconscious making shit up). Now i hate Christianity and clearly see the problems with that religion.
Peace, the Bible will give you a mental disorder. In searching for the truth, I've come to know, the players of the Bible are all characters. They're not real. It's allegorical. That's why folks have a breakdown because we try to make something real in our minds, when it's not. Once folks come to terms with that, the shackles will be removed from our brains. Ase'
Well there is an original version of the bible but it's not in jerusalem but in iranian temple But it says not about god but an alien or the people of the sky Its called summerian text I 🤔 think It says the meaning of yahweh is false
If chinua Achebe was here with them in that table, hmmm, it would certainly be a Whole different discussion, so unapologetic yet so inoffensive. Soyinka and Achebe can never be forgotten globally.
@@y2me629 Not so, Christianity could be mixed with those cultures and thanks to that, there are still many countries that can keep their original cultures until today
why say this when you know you are lying. you have a dishonest heart. you are even seeking the Lord. turn away from your dishonesty and truly seek the Lord. then will you find you answers. its funny to see all these same sinners agree with you. currently God rejects you.
Seems'. what is this for? Sounds like a bunch of story of interest in the round table. Gain is not for this, strange happenings to look at and believe to drive the easy.
Growing up a Christian we had this subconscious fear if we questioned any of what we were taught we would be judged. So its hard to remove yourself from it. Luckily I began to have spiritual experiences that weren't talked about at church or in the bible and figured there's more to God and the universe than we were taught. So I began to follow my heart and my souls yearning to leave the place I no longer resonated with. And leaving was the best thing I could of done for my mental health and my life. Reflecting back, having a wider perspective, I didn't even realise I wasn't questioning things for myself, I was a sheep and I was also blind to how hypocritical Christians can be and how the bible really does contradict itself. Its a book made by people hundreds of thousands of years ago that's been so rewritten and lost in translation that the true message Jesus was preaching was lost within the dogma and unnecessary traditional laws/ biased judgement towards people not like their own that he was trying to stop that now it's just a book of confusion, and though it helps you get onto a spiritual path it keeps you in the dark. I believe all religions are a piece of the puzzle, science is one of those puzzle pieces too and that Jesus and Buddha and other religions figures who were hundreds of years ahead of their time came to teach us of the knowledge being unearthed today about the spiritual aspect of the universe that many indigenous peoples already knew, that we are one with the universe and God is within and we reap what we sow with manifestation.
And that's really why the Catholic church was created. It would counter act any vision or out of body experience you had. You would challenge your divinity. Which is more sacred and real then any belief system on the planet. The Catholic church is the antichrist.
I hope you can dive deeper in the Bible. And read it for yourself now, not given interpretations from a priest. Where would our society be without judgment? These people in the video sound like the Pharisees Jesus was speaking with, too worried about Laws when Jesus was just preaching love, healing, and honoring one God.
Religion is man-made by the one who pushes for control by persuading people to believe in their God (Convert) religion is also a byproduct of people who want power over people when the people who enforce their religion don’t even follow it.The real GOD is universal with a special people who can talk for God Through following his laws and increasing in knowledge and understanding.I do believe every religion hold some truth and lies, but I also believe the universal laws like no killing and no stealing etc is from the real God of the world but this is only an opinion I’m open-minded to anything as long as I can use discernment
@@falsenowledge4296 Religion IS man-made. But God of the Bible is a different thing. Its not about going to church. Its about living by the word of God. Its sad that catolics used to manipulate the people who were uneducated and didnt have a Bible for themselfs. People now just have some arguments which are easly disproven by a little bit research of history of religion and studing the Bible. I hope you all find God. Amen
@@Kimmy6210 Everyone says Soyinka looks like Morgan Freeman. Wole Soyinka is the legendary Nigerian author, poet, playwright, and political activist, and was the first black person to win the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1986.
It depends on the indigenous people. Some tribal regions in India and Thailand are majority Christian - but if I remember right, those are from recent missionaries who did not have this whole colonial system coming with them. So just as with so many things, there’s more than meets the eye.
I dnt know what tf they just said, but religion is like being blind folded in a dark room looking for a black cat that doesn't exist but they claim they've found it!!
@Whip'em up! If you read the Bible carefully you find those answers. Let me start with this... Human being are spirit being. That is Human being comprises of the body,soul and the Spirit. Bible clearly answer the reason why wickedness increase daily in the World. My Brother Jesus Christ is the answer to all the challenges of the World.
@Whip'em up! Origin of human beings have been answered in details and the same goes to the rest of the points you've made in your comment. You only need only one branch of Science - Biology
Careful bro. If that's the case, the rest of the people who are not into religion would be like being blind folded in a dark room not looking for a black cat that they don't care whether exist or want to make claims on its existence?
In fact we do, we have stood all of times test and we shall still stand with the Lord by our side for as long as the illusion of life and death remains.
"The last Christian died on the cross" - Nietzsche. Christendom is awash with hypocrites on both sides, I wager there are barely a handful of Christians in any generation. It's a hard teaching to believe and follow.
After new Covenant , its not any harder than any one including you living and dying by a Force Bigger and better than us. Brain is not an wasy thing for Science to Make ya. They could not even Fathom it. oh then say it came from NATA NOTHING. Oh dear dr do little.
Soyinka, your bars up to 6:30 were on point, the black man next to you, who should know what religion did to Africa looked at you with hate to protect his master's murderous Org. It was painful to watch his weak to a non-rebuttal...
@@inmyhumbleopinion_there was hate contempt, and an attempt to dismiss everything Soyinka said. What are you on dude? He was rambling on trying to confuse people by saying a load of nothing.
That bishop is typical and traitorous, he thinks the point is just for him to be there and say something (anything). And that means (in his mind) that he is relevant and made a real point. You see puppets like these all over the planet, in the UN, WTO or WHO etc. They go back to AFRICA boasting to other Africans that they were at a very important United Nations meeting. Then they expect praise on that basis alone. But they can't tell you a single policy, concession or ruling they fought for that benefit African people. In fact, this so-called dignitary just sat watching Western and Asians economic agendas and policies go through that destroy Africa and African peoples livelihoods.
I know lots and lots of Ghanaians and they are some of the strongest Christian believers in the world. If Christianity is so much the evil that you say it is, and there were no genuine missionaries only colonizers and exploiters, then why do so many straight up African people believe? Are you trying to say they have all been deceived and you know the truth? How about maybe you are deceived and you need to re-examine Christianity again?
"Christianity is called in Europe and by Europeans, a new religion. It was alien to Europe. Constantine was the one who decided to take it. He said i need a new religion to unify my empire. With this religion i can then conquer the world. He himself was never a Christian until he was on his death bed when he converted to Christianity"
@@internet_internet BECAUSE THE SLAVES ARE TREATED AS HELL in your bible dont get me started with the verses that made me feel sick to my stomach i swear it pocked my heart when i read verses from your bible felt like satan wrote it i swear by god, just makes me feel sick knowing people believe in ithis demonic evil book as the book of god the almighty! dont disrepect god saying that!
@@qasimshah1423 the Bible isn’t what you read. People hate righteousness & choose to continue in sin because they find pleasure in sin & they don’t wanna submit to God who give more peace & joy more than any pleasure in the world can give. Wether you like it or not, haven & hell is a place people end up in when they choose to obey God & live holy or disobey God & live in sin. This is why God create free will, he didn’t created robots, he wants to know who really love him by showing it in their actions & actually living by his commandments, but people rather choose in cause they love pleasure & hate righteousness which gives internal life.
@@ukprichard Don't be dumb. 99.999999 percent of us had NO FREE CHOICE in Eden at ALL, and make ALL choices after that IMPAIRED before birth, for something they did NOT CHOSE. And Hosea 9:12 and Joshua 7:24, and COERCED marriages, in Numbers 31:18, do NOT look very righteous, to many of us. Or cursing babies, in 1 Samuel 15 and 2 Samuel 15, or bequeathing slaves, in Leviticus 25, or generic threats and boasting, about whole families, in Zephaniah. Please, do better. And sin BEGAN in heaven, not Earth. And no angel had to 'chose' between equally hidden or disguised gods, from birth, either. And what is 'spiritual death' or a hereditary curse, or sin nature - but a form of somewhat robot like, programming.
@@ukprichard Read your comment, first. Your generic, sweeping generalizations need more substantiating, than that. And not all of us see that TWADDLE I mention above, as righteous acts. Nor Romans 1:20 as efficient, good literature, and not self defeating. Don't forget, 'invisible qualities, clearly understood' utterly FAILED to guide or define all angels, so clearly. And I bet they were not even invisible, those qualities, to them. And how many 'witches' should we kill, in submitting to Matthew 5:18, and others - and how many really WERE 'witches', when they died, in prior eras of the church. And what was to become of gay people, by default, in same era - or Jews, post 1 Corinthians 10, error or not, in 'interpretation'. And Revelations did not say we'd be living in heaven, most of us. Said more about eternity on Earth, I thought.
Wasn’t Adam the father of all people? And weren’t all people made in the image of God? So it is natural that any man no matter what ethnicity he may be to become a priest. A priest served as a mediator between God and man offering sacrifice on behalf of men. So again why do you cringe when the priesthood is for all men.
The moment you place the seeds of the idea of 1. "Thanking an invisible sky god over the nature around you" 2. "Fear and Hell for something you have no control over", you are essentially making an evil.
@@enniomojica7812 It requires definition and criteria of so called evil. A lot of things humans do escape the definition of evil yet it affects all of us. Environment and pollution are perfect example of it. Also invisible sky god places himself above nature and jealously demands everyone worship him only. God should be devoid of negative emotions like jealousy. Actually it is christian god that is is sky. Pagan gods are inside nature and nqture itself. It is their pervasive consciousness that is beyond space and time.
@@sheshankjoshi jealousy is not an evil trait necessarily. It only becomes evil when directed at the wrong object. You have every right to be jealous for the one you love and have sworn yourself to defend. God has done this, first to the Jews, then to all who would receive Him. He has made us his own beloved people and will jealously defend us from the Devil and his attempts to seduce us away. Allowing Environmental pollution is a sin of poor stewardship. It is a lack of respect for Gods creation and frequently stems from greed and selfish gain. That is not to say, however, that God intends for the earth to be a giant nature preserve uninhabited by man. In the book of Psalms it says that God assigned the earth to man, and created it to be fully inhabited.
@@enniomojica7812 no you can still do evil and repent on your deathbed when you have nothing to loose, ask the descendants of the colonisation and other forms of plunder/ conquer if sin is bad, they are still eating off stolen riches till today.
@@Rudysattva it's not about country here, it's about religion. Islam anywhere is almost inseparable from terrorism. Even those ones in America are terrorizing the nation. They have to make everyone in the world practice their religion by force and when they do u will think they will finally settle for peace but check Islamic nations for the progress after they attain Islamic state, still the evil seem to be in the beginner phase. Islam is a key topic if we must talk about world peace being almost the only reason the world is not at peace. I agree as well countries like America and UK are also involved by supporting activities of terrorists.
Thank you for addressing the good and the bad. Most Christians, whom I've met, believe that they are God's perfect and righteous children and ignore the importance of acknowledging that they are sinners and the need for repentance.
calling human Sinners and saying we have free will is valid but it's valid up to only a point the Bible says God Is All knowing God knows us before we are formed and God forms us in our mother's womb so the children who got decides to give to people he knows will hurt and kill them God will enable that child suffering he knows the suffering will occur before he places them with the parents and choose this to anyway like is a teacher good if they give a student to a known serial killer is the teacher blameless because the serial killer use their free will to murder it's terrible sounding logic when applied to a person but people praise the God that would do the same thing according to the Bible the devil is also used as an argument but if we look at the story of job god gives Satan permission to do increasingly worse things to job until job has a breakdown and while he didn't curse god God put him in his place and job repented thinking of himself as nothing but Dust one thing that kind of disturbs me about that story is how easily replaceable job's family was to him in the end having an entirely new family and a restored land God can give Satan permission to destroy everyone you love but he'll replace them all in the end so why is anyone complaining it terrifies me that people genuinely think Like This 😂
@@epicmonkey6663 We live in a messed up world. The truth is only hope, even if the truth includes bad news, it's still the truth. We have only two choices right now, believe that there is no God and everything happens by random or believe that there is a God who is working out the plan to redeem all life.
Ein 3248 as I have said for ages I think the world might be better off if there were no religions, but then I look at how some countries that has banned religion treat the common folk and wonder if I'm wrong or right.
Lol Jesus was a violent little child. He actually murdered other children in different scenarios. One was drowning another child when he was just 5 years old. I forgot what gospel it was I found out about. Even growing up, when I was little I question and thought it was so weird they jumped from his birth to him being 12 years old and then 33 in the New Testament Lots of Jesus history omitted out! Why? Well, because it didn't fit their narrative! 😂
People generally are encouraged to not be controlled by fear , yet Christianity encourages fear of god ,hell , ect , i do admit that an all knowing and powerful god does scare me at times .
I don't know about many gods for the sake of my sanity but the Christian God I know all about and it haunts me to the core it's the most disturbing belief I've come across
@@epicmonkey6663 I’m not self-centered enough to believe the creator of the universe cares about me. If there is a God, then I am not the least bit concerned, and I sleep like a baby.
What they tend to overlook is that religion in all of it's definitions is simply philosophy. Spirituality is the base of true understanding, because it involves the individual created by ?? For man to conflict an ingrained belief is only to restrain the spirit and hold it hostage. Sending a message is one thing. Forcing one to believe it, is absolutely another. See how simple that is? Just keep going folks! If Helen Keller could do it, why can't you?
King James Bible At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
I'm a proud heathen! Plus in a world where the Church pays no taxes yet their congregations get robbed of their yearly earnings by the government In a world where the most architecturally impressive churches RARELY open their doors to the homeless, that's left to charities but churches? Yeah I dont want that stinky bum sleeping my building! I met an African woman yesterday who worked insanely hard all her life to buy her first property...When I congratulated her she said "its all because of God!"...If you are the one who toiled and made the right choices and decisions, you are the one who did 17 hour shifts and you are the one who chose to get out of bed in the morning to have a meeting with a property agent...All praise due to your own efforts I reckon... And what cheek, a non tax paying body asking its members (who are struggling to make ends meet), to give them money... I've never seen a church or mosque or temple perform life saving surgery on anyone! I've never heard of any translation of the Bi Bull telling anyone to "Be happy and be free!" As a black man with no gods...Well there is that whole battle amongst darker hue people to be accepted by their 'people' when they don't believe...its the nature of people that drive me away from religion and faith. I've never took much stock in the writings I observe the people who take stock in such literature...and after 40 years...I'm not impressed.
As an African Christian myself, I have questioned and confronted the racist theology and colonial practices perpetrated by western chrsitainity both in my life and in my social context, what has helped me hold on to my faith while still confronting these racist ideologies perpetrated with the faith has been following the examples of enslaved African Americans like Fredrick Douglass, who addressed and witnessed the difference between true Christianity in his words :"What I have said respecting and against religion, I mean strictly to apply to the slaveholding religion of this land, and with no possible reference to Christianity proper; for, between the Christianity of this land, and the Christianity of Christ, I recognize the widest possible difference-so wide, that to receive the one as good, pure, and holy, is of necessity to reject the other as bad, corrupt, and wicked. To be the friend of the one, is of necessity to be the enemy of the other"
Forced ignorance? Didn’t you hear his reflection on how Christianity taught the world to value humans simply for being human.? I think you are being highly bias and in your judgement and dismissing a larger than life fact that the cardinal disclosed.
@@AR-ey6gn Not sure what you are trying to prove here. The point I made a year ago hasn't changed. No African enslaved one another because of their spiritual tenet or belief system. Religion did.
@@Gggg-cq1ih OMG you made me laugh so hard. Not all academics but these wierdos sure are. Notice that creepy self appointed girl hating on Christians said rome was nicer before Christianity bwahahahahahaha Rome invaded entire lands and dragged its inhabitants off as slaves and watched then get mauled by lions for amusement. In 70 AD when they butchered and annihilated jews they were PAGAN - HER KIND LMFAO just wow they are so full of b.s. it's unreal
@@judahhaile8102 yup and everything is blamed on Christians. Before that everything was blamed on jews- well still they do- but its always the same pagan roman empire this time the Caesar or Nero the butcher is dressed in priestly clothes lol spiritual Egypt (preislamic Egyptian religion) fused with pagan rome. They play a nice deceptive game on all of us. Their favorite academicians are these smug airheads who think they are geniuses with 0.00001% knowledge of real history lol
Christianity has nothing to do with a monk and a nun nor any other man made title. Christianity is a universal livity. A truth not understood become error.
Beliefs come from the imagination of man trying to make sense of the world around him. Religion is when men realize those beliefs can be used to control others.
@@briopalumpus8676 I find it hard to believe religion came before slavery. You dont need a belief system to force someone to do what you rather not. Homo Sapien can be traced back to Africa the same is true of slavery.
One thing I will say is that Christianity is a perfectly fine religion, but a lot of people are weaponizing it and using it as an excuse for discrimination.
“If the truth is being speaking to humans, the one's with evil mind are trapped!” Control is suppression while managing is understanding... So we don't control; We understand! We test our messages that we get from God in our quiet time by comparing them with standards of absolute honesty, absolute purity and absolute love with the intelligence to distinguish good from evil. I'm no good for you, you're no good for me only bring each other to hate, tears and sorrow; Whoever control Africa, controls the World... Twin Flame! “If we do not learn to live together as friends, we will die apart as fools.”
Wole Soyinka @~5:07 "One very important example culturally. When the Christians came, determined to spread the gospel, and they looked around, they couldn't find -- they needed the devil -- later on, I would like to talk about my experience with the devil, by the way. I think 3 encounters, vicariously, but very interesting. But...I dont want to change the subject. When they came they couldn't find the equivalent of the Devil , of Satan. And so they took one of the deities...and they took Èṣù and decided: that is the Devil. And they distorted the entire ethical structure... . So when we've talked about rebuilding, creatively rebuilding, the sense of, you know, ethical conduct among communities, we may have to go all the way back to what Christianity did to us in the African continent." (almost verbatim)
Megh Kalyanasundaram God will separate the wheat from the chaff, then from your wicked ways or be cast into the lake of fire, you have been warned! Jesus died for your sins, and rose from the dead! And ascended into heaven! He was Gods son! Son of Man and Son of God! When he returns he will be baptize the world in fire, every knee will bow and every voice will profess Jesus as Lord! You have been warned, turn from your ways or be cast into hell!
Fabrications at best. And Christianity cant do anything to you, people with wrong ideas and wrong information can. You need to start thinking critically, and think, really truly think - for yourself in your own time and not take peoples "WORD" for it. The fact that you still consider yourself an African is proof of your unwillingness and laziness to think.
@@kevingolden4683 Yes Christianity can harm people negatively. You do realize that the trans-Atlantic slave trade and genocides around the world by Christians came from the Bible itself?
0:10 *Yes, Christianity was a very positive infuluence of the life in Roman Empire. It imporved position of women and slaves: by it's detractors it was called 'woman's religion'; many slaves were freed and all were required to be recognized as fellow humans and Christians, it made Roman Empire to abolish gladiatorial contests with the idea of killing eachother for sports, it stopped practice of killing infants who were deemed unworthy by the patriarch of the family (most of the time female childern), the expansion of charity, creation and spread of first hospitals in Eastern Roman Empire etc.* 0:20 - as I described it very much was true. 0:35 Yes, people cannot get better or worse as such. We all have the same human nature, and it does not change. People are still the same as they were 2000 years ago. *But we did started to behave more morally and societies get better thanks to Christianity - emphesis on Reason starting with Socholasticism, human rights begginig with medieval canon lawyers etc. People just do not notice things that we have thanks to it, because they are now normal, and we ignore normal things.* 0:53 *No, we should rather should go for Augustine and other Church Fathers. Theodosian Code was established by emperor Theodosius and not the Church. It was a Roman Law not a document of any ecumenical council or a Bible book.* Even though the Empire converted there was strong will from emperors to control the Church and use Christianity as a mean to unify the Empire. You cannot blame the Chruch or Christianity for that. After the establishment of Christendom, Catholicism was universal idea that tied it whole as one. Many heresies were a danger to peace and all people recognizing themselves as Christian brothers. Que spread of Arianism or wars of religion after Protestant Revolution. 1:16 *Why arbitrarly decide which book matters the most? Just to support your point?* *As was pointed out by Barth Erhman most of the time Christians, Pagans and Jews lived together quite peacefully. The Roman Law was not very enforcable at the time, and the decline of paganism in RE was graudal and not enforced.* 1:35 This is definetly not true. They were not treated like 'subhumans' or 'demons'. And the Church does not have enemies it attacks ideas not people. But it did sometimes fight people to stop their ideas, in better and wors ways and for better or worse reasons. In a sense heretics are suffering form a sickness, if by that you mean being influnenced in false and often dangerous ideas. I think this quote from Chesterton best explains it: " *On this map of the mind the errors are marked as exceptions. The greater part of it consists of playgrounds and happy hunting-fields, where the mind may have as much liberty as it likes;* not to mention any number of intellectual battle-fields in which the battle is indefinitely open and undecided. *But it [the Church] does definitely take the responsibility of marking certain roads as leading nowhere or leading to destruction, to a blank wall, or a sheer precipice.* By this means, it does prevent men from wasting their time or losing their lives upon paths that have been found futile or disastrous again and again in the past, but which might otherwise entrap travelers again and again in the future. The Church does make herself responsible for warning her people against these; and upon these the real issue of the case depends. *She does dogmatically defend humanity from its worst foes, those hoary and horrible and devouring monsters of the old mistakes.* " 1:43 *Yes, we know how to cure heretics. Through persuasion. This is how it was done most commonly through 2000 years of Church's history.* Even 1200 years after Christ when for the first time ever Inquisition was created because of a very dangerous heresy of Catharism, it dealt with death sentences as a very last resort (5% of trials). 4:40 *I completly disagree, Christianity was not 'preapering way' for colonialism. Missionaries were most of the time very geniuine.* Their purpouse was always to spread the Gospel, there was no intent to preapere any way. *Christianity came to Eastern Africa, to Nubia or Ethiopia, houndreds of years before colonial epoch even started.* You can also see that in what Jesuit and Capuchin missionaries did. E.g. after Kongo became Christian in 15th, it was recognized as part of Christendom and remained a free kingdom until 19th century. Christian missionaries in China or Japan (which were not colonised) were also going there and the colonial powers did not went there until 19th century. (I also do not see anything wrong with commerce) Christianity was always for every people in the same way. It is true that some missionaries went to different countries through colonialism but they were just using it as means that allowed them to fullfill the mission of evangelization. It is also true that colonial powers were using Christianization for their own benefit but this is not the faut of the Church or Christianity but of the colonizers themselves. 5:10 *I think this is a very good example to show that Christian missionaries were very respectful to grains of truth in every culture and eager to adapt already existing beliefs, as well as morally neutral customs and traditions that were not contrary to Christian ethics and to use native myths to point to the Truth of Christian theology and doctrine. I do not know what was specific morals and myths of those people but it would be important to ask if Christian ethics and theology was not the fullness of Truth, more healthy and more ethical than preexisting ones to evaluate if that was a good thing to do. Cultures are not equal.*
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@Sahdia Bennet so what? Forgiving people with blood and torture, from a being who admits to liking the smell of burnt flesh, doesn't seem all that different. And why should we trust ANY OF THESE 'spirits', even yours, by now.
@Sahdia Bennet Fair play - so, what has He SAID to you, in detail? And how did He FEEL about pogroms, wars, schisms, pro slavery priests, and the Inquisition? Enough, to maybe, do, say, anything, about it... or the Magdalene laundries, etc, etc. Also, what did Jesus say about giving people rotten meat? Interesting metaphor, to compare to Numbers 11... And who is 'obvious'? Especially to tribes born with no idea which invisible god is which, and with oral history FURTHER destroyed, after Babel... And ones can only steal or kill, too, if they get, ah, given the key into the world - and I don't think two semi ignorant gardeners, were really the ones to do that.
@Sahdia Bennet i whip for humanity, in due time we shall all come to the truth. God himself showing with signs(matt24vs6-10)according to the gospel of the lord Jesus, that he is feed up of is name be blasphemed among men.
@@chrissonofpear1384 this is the problem with men. we speak out of our foolish wisdom,thinking we are wise. GOD does not glory in evil (Malachi 2 vs 17),neither does he glory in the evil some men do in the name of serving him. this is why Jesus his to come, to separate the goat from the sheep(matt25vs31-34),so as to put an end to the blasphemy of is name. never the less THE DEVIL has infiltrated into the body of Christ, attesting to the prophecy of Paul(2 cor 11 vs 14-15)to wreck havock in the perilious time. But they that know their god shall be strong and do exploit(Dan11 vs 32).Note: God is God, and willl do what so ever he loves.remember the thing created/invented never says to the inventor/ creator what doest thou, we are the creation of God; God never destroys because he has power to do that,but the wickedness of men towards GOD in doing the things he hates,in other words, telling him he can't do anything leads to God's destruction.(Gen6vs11-13),(Gen19 vs 1-13), (Gen13vs13).But to crown it all is awesomeness still x-rayed and is still x-raying through his longsuffering(Gen 15vs 16) and mercy(Gen 18 vs 20-21). and of mercy because, despite God seeing and knowing there wickedness which is worthy of death, decided to show mercy by seeing if they had given heed to the preaching of his servant/prophet.But Unfortunetly they dampen in sin.study with the wisdom of God in you through the holy spirit.least you come out with nothing(doubt)(Gen 18 vs 20-21).
Shalom and many blessings! Question for everyone. What would be your initial thoughts on hundreds of thousands of African Americans leaving America at once; Mass Exodus style, back to Africa due to seeing no signs of our circumstances changing in America? And would you go?
Shalom. Be still.... The Black Messiah is coming to take HIS choosen people home as it is scripted... Repent and keep His commandments, with unshakable faith in Christ.
@Yosef Ben Yisrael as a African American, here is my answer. I would leave only if I am assured of getting the money i paid into social security and medicare, if I had it in a Iron clad contract, i would leave in a heartbeat.
We are devil in the same manner we are God. Two sides of the same coin. What creates division creates wars, hatred, strife. Christianity and Islam create divisions amongst people, cultures and nations. These two have brought wars and untold suffering. As as all humans, these two too have the potential to bring peace, education and prosperity. Two sides of the same coin.
@@anarosemay3923 I can't believe you're that ignorant! Besides what evolution and natural selection have put here on earth, we are responsible for all else. We make the world what we want it to be. Men (male and female) make wars. Men craft devices and technologies. The world as we have it presently is as we have fashioned it. There's no intervention from any dead gods. So, we are gods and devils, two sides of the same coin. We are capable of infinite good. We are capable of infinite evil. Nothing stops us.
"Christianity is the poisoning, slandering, denying of life, contempt for the body, the denigration and self-violation of man through the concept sin."
Except if you read the Bible. The body is the honored vehicle of the divine. Sin is a cosmic reality, it’s why you have guilt. It’s what the existence of a conscious attests to you.
Claiming to be something, has to have/has CORRESPONDING FEATURES/XTERISTERICS. People should understand this fact. ISAIAH 8:20;2 Cor.11:14 ; Acts 17:11.
All religions are sun worship or moon worship. It’s pagan. But they say don’t do pagan. Do the unsean fairytale god but the god right in our faces. The sun and moon.
If you be-LIE-ve in a Devil then your mind will do everything it can to make it True for you. If you Check your be-LIE-fs well, challenge all superstitions as I have for many years, you will notice a Devil does not exist. The Bible is plagerism Cuneiform tablets, Pagan ways (do not have a Satan), and more. The Tablets have been translated correctly, throw the Bible away and read Cuneiform. You can worship anything that doesn't exist if that's something you choose to do. Worshiping a Devil is the same as Worshiping a Redwood Tree that has wings and flies around the world. It's goofy, and without any reason. If you read the Bible Completely, and I do mean Completely, you'll notice how sadistic that book god is, and that it supports slavery, as does "Jesus".
Something very savage occurred during the formation of the church. It was just sad that it took thousands of years and millions of people for the formation to take place.
they insult yall and yall say yesss praise the lord while they steady tell yall your not good enough and you going hell and yall dumb asses still give them ya money gwaf
@@spyingonyallteacup2744.. 😂yall!?.. plz don't speak for me.. u have no clue in my belief system or what I do.. so take that messy shit somewhere else.. don't come over here with ur negativity 🤡.. 😂😂
@@spyingonyallteacup2744having a different view is fine.. but you didn't come with a different view.. u came to my post attacking and assuming about what I do or think.. for absolutely no reason.. so yes negative..
for sure it is a force for good if lived as it is supposed to be lived. As humans are humans they tend to distort it and make compromises where no compromises should be made. In africa it was a very strong force for the good as it tried to stop polygamie, human sacrifice, the raiding and selling of slaves and other very immoral practices as for example the selling of unborn as wives to future husbands. Yes, these things are still practiced to a certain extend but at least the spread of the gospel brought a general moral codex, where there was no moral codex. Christians remain humans but the gospel they are spreading is a message of love and great inner and outer freedom. So yes, definitely a force for the good in man.
Unambiguously, the power of evil. Even to prove the history of Christians it is not necessary, how much evil and blood of not necessary people shed by them.Also, we know very well how this paganism was formed.
I'm former believer of lslam from one of the most religious country Palestine. I often read religious books I think Islam is smart religion as its newer than the rest but lot of it are totally backward.
So the Gay people that get shunned by their parents because they're gay and commit suicide because they're not accepted, did your beliefs want them to be happy? Because if it weren't for your beliefs so many people would still be here today. And the fact that people like you try to sugarcoat things like homophobia, bigotry, wanting people to change for your Gods standards is actually disgusting.
@@Mr_Knight_87 i also am feed up.evil things that were shuned in time past, now becomes the order of the day.in deed (revelation12vs12) and(proverb 30 vs 12)speaks in this present generation.
Ah, so you'd prefer a world completely free of the concept of spiritual punishment for wrongdoings, and where nothing matters. That'd cure the maladies of the world.
All religions have different gods and only one evil. To live a god given life.... There have been a decillion of people passing through the earth, while we all sit upon it in the delusion and polution of ourselves as we project ego into the chaos, STOP. lets unite, the people the earth and life, life can be great for everyone we have the resources.
God: love people equally Also god: those who dont follow are subhuman and must be culled. See the contradiction? Its why i will always view this religion as a cult. It tells you how to think through subjugation, Not help you be a better person.
First off, it is not really a cult. It's the way some of us as Christians act. They follow the old testament rule. God was the bieng who would tell humans to not worship any other idol but in the new testament, God doesn't mention the worship of other gods rather he just simply mentions, follow christ and you'll be free from sin. So next time, make sure you do enough research before coming to such a mediocre conclusion.
@@imakepancakes The Bible comes as a package. You seem to be nitpicking here. It's like skipping Dragon Ball and going straight to DBZ and sayin' that Goku never had a tail
@@kenshix7902 i talked about the old testament and the new testament. The old testament times are the times where there really was not as much freedom becuase God will immediately punish who ever worships another god but in the new testament, there's enough freedom, you can decide to give your life to christ and be forgiven of the consequences of worshipping other gods before. If you don't, that's your business.
Everyone says Soyinka looks like Morgan Freeman. Wole Soyinka is the legendary Nigerian author, poet, playwright, essayist, and political activist, and was the first black person to win the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1986.
Well he does kind of look like Freeman.
Wole Soyinka and Morgan Freeman are lookalikes!
They're brothers from different mothers!
@@joshuacoleman8000 they sound almost same as well...
I love Wole Soyinka but for histrionic facts he was not the first Black Person to win Noble Prize. 1950 Ralph Johnson Bunche was the first African American to win. Dr Martin Luther King also awarded it in 1967 a few years after his death.
@@jt9096 . I thought Martin Luther king Jr., was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize before he was assassinated!
When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.
Desmond Tutu
This statement is misleading. I think the Africans didn't give away their land to the missionaries. Rather, they gave their lands to the colonialist - not missionaries. And the land was not taken from them. They gave it. away.
lol
@@mtalk828 they did not give it away. The coloialist fought them for it and the colonialist won. why the hell would someone giveaway their land
Thing fall apart, great book
@@mtalk828 Christianity is responsible for the Atlantic slave trade.
It has been my personal experience that when people become bible thumping, church going Christians that it dosent really change their behavior for the better. It just makes them incapable of feeling guilt for their sins.
Hmmm 🤔 not the ones I've met. I feel awful shame and guilt when I make mistakes and sins and errors.
Having faith does not always make you think oh it'll be fine now Jesus died for me. I think your just saying something negative for the sake of it because for me personally....that isn't true.
You're bonkers most Christians feel immense guilt to the point of chopping of their hand if used to sin' as some ex Policeman friends told me when they found many teens in a suicide. How's that for guilt?
Jewish ruled Politicians feel NO remorse for all their lies!
Opinion
Bad people need things to hide behind.
That’s a psychopath definition.
Y'all, this isn't Morgan Freeman, this is the person Morgan Freeman portrays in his movies, the first black man to win the nobel prize in literature. This man is a national treasure to Nigerians.
The first continental African
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No he aint
He's from my country Nigeria, A professor of English and a Nobel Prize Laureate... he's Professor Wolé Sóyinká
@@Voltaron. just a guy who can speak English
The Romans re-wrote Christianity and Weaponized it. The original WAY of Yahshua was pure.
Exactly! Africans like the Aksumites and Copts were Christians before the European Romans. European forms of Christianity was a force for evil. Not Christianity as a whole.
Is pure
Not at all, not at all.
Yet you are still reading it
Nothing man made is pure lol.
they are all smiling and gigling...no truth had been said. THE SMILING STOPS when the truth start showing it's face.
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Facts💯
Well when the woman responded and said most of the actions of the Romans were not based on Christian principles she was telling the truth.
@@oforimensah4711 Romans wrote the Bible so you can worship a God they killed to show off the Roman Power and make you feel guilty of your own existence instead of blaming the Roman who put you in that suffering.
@@frozzytango9927 multiple authors. Certainly not the Romans though.
At the end of the day ... power wealth and influence was desired and Christianity was used to achieve this goal by Christian leaders..
Absolutely false. Say some Christian leaders not just generalize like that
You’re absolutely wrong and need prayers
@@reuru113 you sound silly and naive...
@@pearlbarkley1019 won't be surprised.. most people were blinded by satan.
@@worshipthetruelight9284 Religion and religious institutions are many times 2 different things.... History provides evidence of this fact!!!
every one can never be same. you're wrong
We are still in the Roman empire
Fascinating thought. Ever read Philip K Dick? He was an author who believed the Empire hadn't ended
And it is coming to THE END
Absolutely. It just has changed its name through the history
@@zwebb7327 the empire hell the fourth reich!!! Alive and well I ran into a German lebensborn bred programmed when he was 9yrs old to b a soldier!!! Strong smart etc anything u can think of a super soldier to be he's now old and decrepit knows of senators and governers ppl in high places that were in the 3rd Reich living in U.S. today!!!!!
In an empire yes. But I doubt that it's Roman. I know that Where I live, we are being slowly being taken over by China, and hopefully with the help of Coronavirus the takeover will stop. But we also know that the United States, under the guise of Self-protection is playing a "World-Policing" role already, but that it is the Vatican (which is a sovereignty in its own rights) that owns most of the gold in the world which is our only alternative replacement for/of currency. So the head will make itself visible soon I think, maybe even in our lifetime.
As soon as I head "our religion is right, and every other religion is wrong." I knew that Christianity has no respect for others
If Christianity is right, then having respect for the opinions of people who are leading themselves to hell would be to advocate their demise. If I say red means stop and green means go, and someone else believes it's the other way around, it's not that I don't respect them, it's that I love them and I don't want them to die in traffic. If we love people, it's not a matter of us not having respect for others, it's a matter of us wanting to set people free from the prison of thinking that God doesn't love them which they don't even realize they are in. The love of God hurts those who choose to trust what the world tells them, but the love of God frees those who choose to believe what His Word tells them, and you shouldn't criticize a system of belief for being sincere, honest, and loving, by falsely labeling what true Christianity is as disrespectful. Christ dying for our sins to set us free from them is anything but disrespectful.
@@franklee8483 and, if Christianity is wrong, they're sinning by lying and fearmongering and dragging people away from paths that they were happy on. They may even be dragging people down to hell with themselves, if it turns out the other people were right all along.
It's both entitled and narcissistic to assume that you're more correct that other people based on no evidence.
@@catatoblob8598 You said, "based on no evidence", even though Christianity itself is the basic logical conclusion anyone with even just a decent amount of sense would come to if they weren't self-focused and instead were willing to acknowledge the evidence that the entire universe offers them every single day. Christianity is the only religion that isn't merely based on either philosophy or unverifiable claims, but historical accounts that can be verified by extra biblical sources, not to mention fulfilled prophecies that cannot be denied when honestly evaluated. Not to mention if Christianity weren't the one true faith in the world, then why is it that there is a spirit of anti-Christ everywhere you look in our fallen world of sin and selfish greed? But there isn't a spirit of anti-Buddha, or anti-Hindu, or anti-Daoism, etc. everywhere in the world because people who are self-focused don't want the truth of their behavior made known to them, and Christianity is the only religion that forces people to face the wickedness of their own depravity in rebellion against God (against Love itself).
This is why Christianity makes people angry, because it forces them to acknowledge the Truth, the truth of themselves, and the truth of God, and the truth of the value He has placed upon the life of every human soul, and that is evidence in and of itself that Christianity is the only path to the Truth. But it goes even further, because logical deduction alone brings you to Christ, because the universe couldn't exist without a God, and an infinite and eternal God would not create a universe of unimaginable suffering which He himself would have to be subjected to unless He had a sufficient reason for doing so (Love), being that an infinite and eternal being would be all-consuming, meaning anything that happens within his creation He himself would have to endure (suffering). Psalm 139:8, "If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there." Without the love of God being given to us, we wouldn't be able to see the light in the darkness of our self-deception, and even though the Truth of God's love for us comes with a certain amount of pain due to our rebellion against him, it is only by pushing through that pain that we can be brought into the light on the other side. Christ is the one who tore that veil, and without him all we have are opinions, but he is the Truth, and through his love for us we can know the Love of God for us, but only if we accept it by accepting what he did for us, both on the cross and in the tomb, when he conquered the death that sin leads us to, because he gave us the power to overcome it and to roll the stone away. You say there's no evidence, but every man and woman on the face of the Earth whose life has been utterly transformed for good, who have been brought out of the darkness of self-deception and into the love of God, they are testimonies to the glory and the Truth of God's Word. They are the evidence, every other religion falls short.
So here is a comment from a friend of mine who put it very nicely explaining how Christianity can be concluded by basic common sense... (another post)
@@catatoblob8598 JAY DEE: "Man Eleazar, for someone who makes a lot of claims about the Bible, you sure don't understand it very well. Abraham's son was not meant to be sacrificed. God showed Abraham that because Abraham was willing to obey God (Love - 1st John 4:8) to whatever extent Love / God commanded him, God would send his own Son to take the place of man, so that our own son's (like Abraham's) would not have to pay their own price. But in order to receive that gift, one must be willing to accept it, which means not squandering it by choosing to pursue sin instead of God, / Love, because that is not acceptance, it's rejection. A God of love would not force his will upon anyone, because forced intimacy (making someone do what you want) otherwise known as rape, isn't something that a God of love would ever do. And Yes, we can know for certian that if there is a God, who has a mind, He is Love in his very nature and in his character, and NO, it isn't wishful thinking. Why? Because of simple logical deduction, and basic common sense. I'll elaborate: Everything that comes into existence has a cause, and everything produced by a cause contains attributes of the cause that created it. For example a cause cannot produce an object that can move unless its cause (or its creator) is capable of momentum itself. An apple seed cannot produce an orange tree, something without a mind cannot produce a thought, etc. The only known source of information that human beings know of is a mind. For example if you see a coded symbol written in a language delivering information, you know a mind is behind it. And what do we know about all life? DNA is a chemical language encoded by symbols as a means of delivering specific information necessary for anything alive to exist. All living things move towards that which is desirable and away from that which is undesirable, and willpower removes obstacles from its path. If a living mind has been produced into the world, then a mind was necessary to create it because nothing can produce something which it does not possess inherently. A mindless universe cannot produce a mind, much like a chicken egg cannot come into existence unless there is a chicken to lay the egg.
The science all points to Deism, so how do we then get to Christian Theism, here we go:
If there is a mind powerful enough to create the universe, then nothing can stop it from pursuing that which is most desirable for it. The most desirable thing that all human beings know of is love, and when we look at every other emotion besides love we see that love is responsible for all of it. Every other emotion is a byproduct of love itself; for example even hatred is only the product of someone losing what they love. If you hate the taste of something, it is only because it took away the neutral state of comfort you normally enjoy when you aren't tasting anything and then it replaced that neutrality with something worse. You loved the neutral state, you lost it for something worse, now you hate that which took away what you loved, etc. Every other emotion is contingent upon love, our emotions determine how we feel, and what we feel determines what we desire, and as we have already established all forms of life (with minds) move towards that which is desirable. If God exists, He transcends all of that which we see in existence but contains all of the needed components necessary to create it. If our desires all revolve around love, stem from love, and are based on love, then love is the central beginning and end of every mind, the alpha and the omega of consciousness. God is self-aware because self-awareness is present in the universe, and God is the central beginning and end of everything that exists, including consciousness. So what is God? God is love, the thing around which all life orbits, specifically self-reflective intelligent life (the capacity to think about thinking), which is something only human beings possess. because as the Bible says we are made in the image of God. Life without love is like life without life, it simply doesn't work, and by trying to remove that which is the center of all life you are only creating an infinite void which only the one who belongs on that throne can fill. People can do that if they want, because God is love, and He has given us free will, but there are consequences which come with doing so, just like there are consequences for walking into a mine-field (sin) without a mine-detector (God's Word). You can do that if you want, but when you hear the click and you look around for someone to save you, and no one is there, remember, no one is there because you chose for no one to be there. Psalm 50:22, "Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you to pieces, and there be none left to rescue". Revelation 14:10, “The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:” and finally John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."
Why? Because God is Love, but He is also infinitely Just, and the cross is the place where God's righteousness (His Justice) and his Love (His Mercy) meet, and salvation is the place where forgiveness and repentance meet. That's why the cross was necessary, to show us what it is we are truly doing when we sin, to give us the Spirit (the inspirational force) to repent and to turn to God for forgiveness. You could however turn away from sin, and receive the Spirit whom Jesus died on the cross to give, where every sin is washed away, where failures cannot be mentioned unto those within, where peace reigns eternal, where righteousness leads the way, and where that old reflection in the mirror has a permanent smile stretched across it that no one can ever take from you. Matthew 7:14, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." where "God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things have passed away." - Revelation 12:4 I'll pray for you, but until you kneel before God yourself, and say your own prayer to him personally, for God to answer my prayer He's going to have to hit you with some Truth that you may not like very much until you have willfully chosen to receive it. Until then, the Truth to those who reject is like Hell, because "our God is a consuming fire" - Hebrews 12:29. But once you have accepted him, He is like paradise, "the fountain of living water" - Jeremiah 17:13"
@@franklee8483 I'm not seeing any evidence. I'm sure those Native Americans you guys converted and gave small pox to had their lives totally improved by xtianity. Not to mention all those random women you burnt at the stake.
I clicked because thought the grey haired brother was Morgan Freeman.
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hahaha me too
🤣🤣🤣 same here
Me too! 😃 disappointing...
I had been Christian for 10 years and all i got was mental illness from it.
Constant guilt trip, fear of hell, no clear answer to alot of things (bible is ambiguous).
It gave me depression and internal monologue in my head(hearing God’s voice but it’s my subconscious making shit up).
Now i hate Christianity and clearly see the problems with that religion.
Peace, the Bible will give you a mental disorder. In searching for the truth, I've come to know, the players of the Bible are all characters. They're not real. It's allegorical. That's why folks have a breakdown because we try to make something real in our minds, when it's not. Once folks come to terms with that, the shackles will be removed from our brains. Ase'
Same
Well there is an original version of the bible but it's not in jerusalem but in iranian temple
But it says not about god but an alien or the people of the sky
Its called summerian text I 🤔 think
It says the meaning of yahweh is false
@@user-mu7xh4sm3v that sounds even more fake
Well that’s what happens when we treat 2000 year old fairy tales as law.
If chinua Achebe was here with them in that table, hmmm, it would certainly be a Whole different discussion, so unapologetic yet so inoffensive. Soyinka and Achebe can never be forgotten globally.
Very true.
I don't understand why "amen" is acceptable in a Christian prayer...to my knowledge "amen-ra" was an Egyptian god.
Christianity appropriated pagan...all pagan cultures destroyed by Christianity
@@y2me629 Not so, Christianity could be mixed with those cultures and thanks to that, there are still many countries that can keep their original cultures until today
My cousin told me this shit. Amen ra, and I'm Diné hes half so called black and Diné
And what is wrong with Amen-Ra?
why say this when you know you are lying. you have a dishonest heart. you are even seeking the Lord. turn away from your dishonesty and truly seek the Lord. then will you find you answers. its funny to see all these same sinners agree with you. currently God rejects you.
If they were taking shots of liquor, the truth would have been told.
Perfectly said @William Watson
@Nigel FACTS💯
Lol 😆 true!
damn son
Seems'. what is this for? Sounds like a bunch of story of interest in the round table. Gain is not for this, strange happenings to look at and believe to drive the easy.
Growing up a Christian we had this subconscious fear if we questioned any of what we were taught we would be judged. So its hard to remove yourself from it.
Luckily I began to have spiritual experiences that weren't talked about at church or in the bible and figured there's more to God and the universe than we were taught. So I began to follow my heart and my souls yearning to leave the place I no longer resonated with. And leaving was the best thing I could of done for my mental health and my life. Reflecting back, having a wider perspective, I didn't even realise I wasn't questioning things for myself, I was a sheep and I was also blind to how hypocritical Christians can be and how the bible really does contradict itself.
Its a book made by people hundreds of thousands of years ago that's been so rewritten and lost in translation that the true message Jesus was preaching was lost within the dogma and unnecessary traditional laws/ biased judgement towards people not like their own that he was trying to stop that now it's just a book of confusion, and though it helps you get onto a spiritual path it keeps you in the dark.
I believe all religions are a piece of the puzzle, science is one of those puzzle pieces too and that Jesus and Buddha and other religions figures who were hundreds of years ahead of their time came to teach us of the knowledge being unearthed today about the spiritual aspect of the universe that many indigenous peoples already knew, that we are one with the universe and God is within and we reap what we sow with manifestation.
Really well written. Thanks for sharing. My experience is similar.
The heart is deceitful
And that's really why the Catholic church was created. It would counter act any vision or out of body experience you had. You would challenge your divinity. Which is more sacred and real then any belief system on the planet. The Catholic church is the antichrist.
I hope you can dive deeper in the Bible. And read it for yourself now, not given interpretations from a priest.
Where would our society be without judgment?
These people in the video sound like the Pharisees Jesus was speaking with, too worried about Laws when Jesus was just preaching love, healing, and honoring one God.
Hmm… I take it you were Protestant? What you’ve wrote here is distinctly universalism and pretty much freemasonic and perennialist ideas
When you find out most wars on this planet all relate to religions to some extent.
+ foot why you say that
Religion is man-made by the one who pushes for control by persuading people to believe in their God (Convert) religion is also a byproduct of people who want power over people when the people who enforce their religion don’t even follow it.The real GOD is universal with a special people who can talk for God Through following his laws and increasing in knowledge and understanding.I do believe every religion hold some truth and lies, but I also believe the universal laws like no killing and no stealing etc is from the real God of the world but this is only an opinion I’m open-minded to anything as long as I can use discernment
what do you mean with, "to some extent" and what are you trying to say exactly?
@@falsenowledge4296 Religion IS man-made. But God of the Bible is a different thing. Its not about going to church. Its about living by the word of God. Its sad that catolics used to manipulate the people who were uneducated and didnt have a Bible for themselfs. People now just have some arguments which are easly disproven by a little bit research of history of religion and studing the Bible. I hope you all find God. Amen
To a large extent brother
the old guy`s hair is F AWESOME
I thought it was Morgan Freeman at first
sweet james jones ll aka muthaphuka jones he’s like morgan freeman’s brother. his voice is amazing and they definitely look alike.
@@infinitefather ikr, it's trippy 😂😂
You mean Wole Soyinka? The Nobel Laureate?
@@Kimmy6210 Everyone says Soyinka looks like Morgan Freeman. Wole Soyinka is the legendary Nigerian author, poet, playwright, and political activist, and was the first black person to win the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1986.
Ask any indigenous peoples most would say yes it is
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It depends on the indigenous people. Some tribal regions in India and Thailand are majority Christian - but if I remember right, those are from recent missionaries who did not have this whole colonial system coming with them. So just as with so many things, there’s more than meets the eye.
I dnt know what tf they just said, but religion is like being blind folded in a dark room looking for a black cat that doesn't exist but they claim they've found it!!
You the realist!
@Whip'em up! If you read the Bible carefully you find those answers. Let me start with this... Human being are spirit being. That is Human being comprises of the body,soul and the Spirit. Bible clearly answer the reason why wickedness increase daily in the World. My Brother Jesus Christ is the answer to all the challenges of the World.
@Whip'em up! Origin of human beings have been answered in details and the same goes to the rest of the points you've made in your comment.
You only need only one branch of Science - Biology
Careful bro. If that's the case, the rest of the people who are not into religion would be like being blind folded in a dark room not looking for a black cat that they don't care whether exist or want to make claims on its existence?
Well said!
No one on earth can defend religion Especially Christianity
In fact they can, otherwise it would not exist. This is a stupid statement.
In fact we do, we have stood all of times test and we shall still stand with the Lord by our side for as long as the illusion of life and death remains.
@@hellenicboi14 hm? Why do I see Christians justifying colonialism and the spanish inquisition and even crusades?
@@skrigged9270 Why do you think that this has any bearing on the topic?
Look at the Jesus Christ life what he said about life . He doesn’t make any religions. people make the religions
"The last Christian died on the cross" - Nietzsche.
Christendom is awash with hypocrites on both sides, I wager there are barely a handful of Christians in any generation. It's a hard teaching to believe and follow.
Your the First and God would like to have a chat with you.
After new Covenant , its not any harder than any one including you living and dying by a Force Bigger and better than us. Brain is not an wasy thing for Science to Make ya. They could not even Fathom it. oh then say it came from NATA NOTHING. Oh dear dr do little.
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I imagine we might chat about the appalling grammar of my contemporaries.
@@MAX-tw3qz Oh dear are you Special
@@MAX-tw3qz Do you speak it with your mind fully Prepared for what any Consequences may serve you.🥴🤣🤣
Wow. A year old. And no one had made one comment?? I'm watching this to the end. For sure.
That's because Google has concealed them!
TH-cam is really big. They may just be finding it. Like me.
They also could of had their comments off until recent.
They probably closed the comments so the religious folks won't spam. Waited until they forgot about it
Soyinka, your bars up to 6:30 were on point, the black man next to you, who should know what religion did to Africa looked at you with hate to protect his master's murderous Org. It was painful to watch his weak to a non-rebuttal...
Lol there was literally no hate in that man's expression
@@inmyhumbleopinion_there was hate contempt, and an attempt to dismiss everything Soyinka said. What are you on dude? He was rambling on trying to confuse people by saying a load of nothing.
That bishop is typical and traitorous, he thinks the point is just for him to be there and say something (anything). And that means (in his mind) that he is relevant and made a real point. You see puppets like these all over the planet, in the UN, WTO or WHO etc. They go back to AFRICA boasting to other Africans that they were at a very important United Nations meeting. Then they expect praise on that basis alone. But they can't tell you a single policy, concession or ruling they fought for that benefit African people. In fact, this so-called dignitary just sat watching Western and Asians economic agendas and policies go through that destroy Africa and African peoples livelihoods.
Religion's that come from books are all suspect!
I know lots and lots of Ghanaians and they are some of the strongest Christian believers in the world. If Christianity is so much the evil that you say it is, and there were no genuine missionaries only colonizers and exploiters, then why do so many straight up African people believe? Are you trying to say they have all been deceived and you know the truth? How about maybe you are deceived and you need to re-examine Christianity again?
"Christianity is called in Europe and by Europeans, a new religion. It was alien to Europe. Constantine was the one who decided to take it. He said i need a new religion to unify my empire. With this religion i can then conquer the world. He himself was never a Christian until he was on his death bed when he converted to Christianity"
Who else is watching within the last couple months?
That for a second made me think you were saying the months we were in was the last
It's so important that videos like this are out there because I have had these thoughts inside me for so long but no one would mention it
Let’s talk I love discussing these topics too.
TRUTH BE TOLD? I SAW THIS VIDEO AROUND 2016 ITS BEEN AROUND.A VERY REVEALING VIDEO 🤔
To answer the question in title, YES it is.
It’s a force of good.
This is the greatest experiment in the history of the planet
The very planet is a petrie dish
💯 pretty damn successful one too🤦♂️
@@alfaisaac024 How so?
Short answer: YES.
Is Christianity evil? That's an understatement but yes. And so are all abrahamic religions.
Would like to see this WHOLE convo
same here.
Either humanity destroys religion or religion will destroy humanity.
If Christianity is good then why christian missionaries force conversions in places like my country Nepal and India
First Go do video recording of force conversion and then we will discuss
That look at 6:40 is the look you give when you're genuinely worried about someone.
Pure Pity
Slave owners gave our ancestors bibles? Why??
@@internet_internet BECAUSE THE SLAVES ARE TREATED AS HELL in your bible dont get me started with the verses that made me feel sick to my stomach i swear it pocked my heart when i read verses from your bible felt like satan wrote it i swear by god, just makes me feel sick knowing people believe in ithis demonic evil book as the book of god the almighty! dont disrepect god saying that!
@@qasimshah1423 the Bible isn’t what you read. People hate righteousness & choose to continue in sin because they find pleasure in sin & they don’t wanna submit to God who give more peace & joy more than any pleasure in the world can give. Wether you like it or not, haven & hell is a place people end up in when they choose to obey God & live holy or disobey God & live in sin.
This is why God create free will, he didn’t created robots, he wants to know who really love him by showing it in their actions & actually living by his commandments, but people rather choose in cause they love pleasure & hate righteousness which gives internal life.
@@ukprichard Don't be dumb. 99.999999 percent of us had NO FREE CHOICE in Eden at ALL, and make ALL choices after that IMPAIRED before birth, for something they did NOT CHOSE.
And Hosea 9:12 and Joshua 7:24, and COERCED marriages, in Numbers 31:18, do NOT look very righteous, to many of us. Or cursing babies, in 1 Samuel 15 and 2 Samuel 15, or bequeathing slaves, in Leviticus 25, or generic threats and boasting, about whole families, in Zephaniah.
Please, do better. And sin BEGAN in heaven, not Earth. And no angel had to 'chose' between equally hidden or disguised gods, from birth, either.
And what is 'spiritual death' or a hereditary curse, or sin nature - but a form of somewhat robot like, programming.
@@chrissonofpear1384 what’s the context you read my comment in?
@@ukprichard Read your comment, first. Your generic, sweeping generalizations need more substantiating, than that. And not all of us see that TWADDLE I mention above, as righteous acts.
Nor Romans 1:20 as efficient, good literature, and not self defeating.
Don't forget, 'invisible qualities, clearly understood' utterly FAILED to guide or define all angels, so clearly. And I bet they were not even invisible, those qualities, to them.
And how many 'witches' should we kill, in submitting to Matthew 5:18, and others - and how many really WERE 'witches', when they died, in prior eras of the church. And what was to become of gay people, by default, in same era - or Jews, post 1 Corinthians 10, error or not, in 'interpretation'.
And Revelations did not say we'd be living in heaven, most of us. Said more about eternity on Earth, I thought.
Christianity scares me personally.
Comment section full of the brightest minds of r/atheism I see
Dude I know. These people are trying to say that Amen is talking about an Ancient Egyptian god. Next they will start saying Awomen.
@@gnom98 amen-ra was an Egyptian pharaoh
@@ssroudyss9432 It’s a Hebrew term.
Wole soyinka, a legend.
Christianity has done nothing good for women and children ever
Not to mention that it was forced on all minorities
As a black person, I cringe each time I see a black priest, or Imam.
Why do you cringe?
Wasn’t Adam the father of all people? And weren’t all people made in the image of God? So it is natural that any man no matter what ethnicity he may be to become a priest. A priest served as a mediator between God and man offering sacrifice on behalf of men. So again why do you cringe when the priesthood is for all men.
@JC*inc , why would you call yourself a 'black person'?
@@enniomojica7812 I read don’t know why he’s cringing
All Christianity does is make things that are perfectly normal and make them sins and then chastise the people who live normal
A society is a reflection of its spiritual foundation. Take a good look around you!
i like that
that an ignot of wisdom worth its wight.
Exactly
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To be fair Yahweh/Allah is basically the ultimate trickster deity.
The moment you place the seeds of the idea of 1. "Thanking an invisible sky god over the nature around you" 2. "Fear and Hell for something you have no control over", you are essentially making an evil.
1. Sky gods are pagan in nature. The Christian God is beyond space and time.
2. Fear of Hell will motivate you to avoid doing evil.
@@enniomojica7812 It requires definition and criteria of so called evil. A lot of things humans do escape the definition of evil yet it affects all of us. Environment and pollution are perfect example of it.
Also invisible sky god places himself above nature and jealously demands everyone worship him only. God should be devoid of negative emotions like jealousy. Actually it is christian god that is is sky. Pagan gods are inside nature and nqture itself. It is their pervasive consciousness that is beyond space and time.
@@sheshankjoshi jealousy is not an evil trait necessarily. It only becomes evil when directed at the wrong object. You have every right to be jealous for the one you love and have sworn yourself to defend. God has done this, first to the Jews, then to all who would receive Him. He has made us his own beloved people and will jealously defend us from the Devil and his attempts to seduce us away.
Allowing Environmental pollution is a sin of poor stewardship. It is a lack of respect for Gods creation and frequently stems from greed and selfish gain. That is not to say, however, that God intends for the earth to be a giant nature preserve uninhabited by man. In the book of Psalms it says that God assigned the earth to man, and created it to be fully inhabited.
@@enniomojica7812 no you can still do evil and repent on your deathbed when you have nothing to loose, ask the descendants of the colonisation and other forms of plunder/ conquer if sin is bad, they are still eating off stolen riches till today.
@@enniomojica7812 a God beyond space and Time cause both good and evil
You don't have to be religious to be moral. Morals comes before religion, not religion before morality. We don't need religion in the first place.
Would be lovely to have this same discussion with Islam as the focus!
It does have those discussions online
Islam was never far from discussion. That's Why it's the fastest growing religion .
@@earthynomad7160 u meant to say it is the religion producing almost 100% of the terrorists in the world?
@@light7319 I think USA might still be in the lead for that, maybe exponentially
@@Rudysattva it's not about country here, it's about religion. Islam anywhere is almost inseparable from terrorism. Even those ones in America are terrorizing the nation. They have to make everyone in the world practice their religion by force and when they do u will think they will finally settle for peace but check Islamic nations for the progress after they attain Islamic state, still the evil seem to be in the beginner phase. Islam is a key topic if we must talk about world peace being almost the only reason the world is not at peace. I agree as well countries like America and UK are also involved by supporting activities of terrorists.
That woman's voice is absolute sultry in my ears.
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Thank you for addressing the good and the bad. Most Christians, whom I've met, believe that they are God's perfect and righteous children and ignore the importance of acknowledging that they are sinners and the need for repentance.
calling human Sinners and saying we have free will is valid but it's valid up to only a point the Bible says God Is All knowing God knows us before we are formed and God forms us in our mother's womb so the children who got decides to give to people he knows will hurt and kill them God will enable that child suffering he knows the suffering will occur before he places them with the parents and choose this to anyway like is a teacher good if they give a student to a known serial killer is the teacher blameless because the serial killer use their free will to murder it's terrible sounding logic when applied to a person but people praise the God that would do the same thing according to the Bible the devil is also used as an argument but if we look at the story of job god gives Satan permission to do increasingly worse things to job until job has a breakdown and while he didn't curse god God put him in his place and job repented thinking of himself as nothing but Dust one thing that kind of disturbs me about that story is how easily replaceable job's family was to him in the end having an entirely new family and a restored land God can give Satan permission to destroy everyone you love but he'll replace them all in the end so why is anyone complaining it terrifies me that people genuinely think Like This 😂
@@epicmonkey6663 We live in a messed up world. The truth is only hope, even if the truth includes bad news, it's still the truth. We have only two choices right now, believe that there is no God and everything happens by random or believe that there is a God who is working out the plan to redeem all life.
The title of the vid is close. It should have read " is religion evil"? And the answer is a simple yes.
On gang
Ein 3248 as I have said for ages I think the world might be better off if there were no religions, but then I look at how some countries that has banned religion treat the common folk and wonder if I'm wrong or right.
Religion creates divide
Jeez read some history books
This video is so cut and edited it's impossible to know if the things the participants of the panel say aren't completely out of context... :/
It's available online
when i hear a priest or a cardinal say-i appreciate your insight-im sceptic from a beggining
Lol Jesus was a violent little child. He actually murdered other children in different scenarios. One was drowning another child when he was just 5 years old. I forgot what gospel it was I found out about. Even growing up, when I was little I question and thought it was so weird they jumped from his birth to him being 12 years old and then 33 in the New Testament
Lots of Jesus history omitted out! Why? Well, because it didn't fit their narrative! 😂
@@YumegakaMurakumo bro are you stating facts?!
I'm getting scared now literally like I never knew this shit
@@YumegakaMurakumo
In which book did you read this?
@@VicToria-sd1dn In the apocrypha, to be precise - much of it Gnostic influenced.
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You are funny. Sooo funny. Seek truth. I pray for you.
People generally are encouraged to not be controlled by fear , yet Christianity encourages fear of god ,hell , ect , i do admit that an all knowing and powerful god does scare me at times .
I don't know about many gods for the sake of my sanity but the Christian God I know all about and it haunts me to the core it's the most disturbing belief I've come across
@@epicmonkey6663 I’m not self-centered enough to believe the creator of the universe cares about me. If there is a God, then I am not the least bit concerned, and I sleep like a baby.
What they tend to overlook is that religion in all of it's definitions is simply philosophy. Spirituality is the base of true understanding, because it involves the individual created by ?? For man to conflict an ingrained belief is only to restrain the spirit and hold it hostage. Sending a message is one thing. Forcing one to believe it, is absolutely another. See how simple that is? Just keep going folks! If Helen Keller could do it, why can't you?
Religion still bad
King James Bible
At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
Smh man u cNt c religion is the worst
@@Solidstne I can’t seem to an understanding what you wrote
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@@ME-hw1pg u must b religious !! Smh
I'm a proud heathen!
Plus in a world where the Church pays no taxes yet their congregations get robbed of their yearly earnings by the government
In a world where the most architecturally impressive churches RARELY open their doors to the homeless, that's left to charities but churches? Yeah I dont want that stinky bum sleeping my building!
I met an African woman yesterday who worked insanely hard all her life to buy her first property...When I congratulated her she said "its all because of God!"...If you are the one who toiled and made the right choices and decisions, you are the one who did 17 hour shifts and you are the one who chose to get out of bed in the morning to have a meeting with a property agent...All praise due to your own efforts I reckon...
And what cheek, a non tax paying body asking its members (who are struggling to make ends meet), to give them money...
I've never seen a church or mosque or temple perform life saving surgery on anyone!
I've never heard of any translation of the Bi Bull telling anyone to "Be happy and be free!"
As a black man with no gods...Well there is that whole battle amongst darker hue people to be accepted by their 'people' when they don't believe...its the nature of people that drive me away from religion and faith. I've never took much stock in the writings I observe the people who take stock in such literature...and after 40 years...I'm not impressed.
Well said.
As an African Christian myself, I have questioned and confronted the racist theology and colonial practices perpetrated by western chrsitainity both in my life and in my social context, what has helped me hold on to my faith while still confronting these racist ideologies perpetrated with the faith has been following the examples of enslaved African Americans like Fredrick Douglass, who addressed and witnessed the difference between true Christianity in his words :"What I have said respecting and against religion, I mean strictly to apply to the slaveholding religion of this land, and with no possible reference to Christianity proper; for, between the Christianity of this land, and the Christianity of Christ, I recognize the widest possible difference-so wide, that to receive the one as good, pure, and holy, is of necessity to reject the other as bad, corrupt, and wicked. To be the friend of the one, is of necessity to be the enemy of the other"
That Ghanaian pastor has imbibed himself in the ale of forced ignorance.
Forced ignorance? Didn’t you hear his reflection on how Christianity taught the world to value humans simply for being human.? I think you are being highly bias and in your judgement and dismissing a larger than life fact that the cardinal disclosed.
@@enniomojica7812 what do you think about all the kids being found underneath old catholic schools?
@@enniomojica7812 Africans were valuing themselves centuries before Christianity. Not sure your point makes sense.
@@widerling by selling America and Britain slaves ?? Lmaoo everyone here is biased
@@AR-ey6gn Not sure what you are trying to prove here. The point I made a year ago hasn't changed. No African enslaved one another because of their spiritual tenet or belief system. Religion did.
Wow this would have been an incredible event to be seated in! I love their academic respect ❤
Academics can be so stupid.
Actually it's Roman and Egyptian empire fused together symbols every where of both
@@Gggg-cq1ih OMG you made me laugh so hard. Not all academics but these wierdos sure are. Notice that creepy self appointed girl hating on Christians said rome was nicer before Christianity bwahahahahahaha Rome invaded entire lands and dragged its inhabitants off as slaves and watched then get mauled by lions for amusement. In 70 AD when they butchered and annihilated jews they were PAGAN - HER KIND LMFAO just wow they are so full of b.s. it's unreal
@@judahhaile8102 yup and everything is blamed on Christians. Before that everything was blamed on jews- well still they do- but its always the same pagan roman empire this time the Caesar or Nero the butcher is dressed in priestly clothes lol spiritual Egypt (preislamic Egyptian religion) fused with pagan rome. They play a nice deceptive game on all of us. Their favorite academicians are these smug airheads who think they are geniuses with 0.00001% knowledge of real history lol
@@Gggg-cq1ih academic can be stupid to someone that does not know what it means
Christianity has nothing to do with a monk and a nun nor any other man made title. Christianity is a universal livity. A truth not understood become error.
Not in this realm!!!!!
Really wondering what really Religion is about ??? 🤔🤔🤔 who brought about it first of all , all the stories we heard
The kingdom of God is here on earth...we are in a Heaven, but we are making a mess out of it.
Let me know when you find out
Beliefs come from the imagination of man trying to make sense of the world around him. Religion is when men realize those beliefs can be used to control others.
some one once figured out that religion came first then slavery, the person who needed slaves had to come of with the god who odains it.
@@briopalumpus8676 I find it hard to believe religion came before slavery. You dont need a belief system to force someone to do what you rather not. Homo Sapien can be traced back to Africa the same is true of slavery.
One thing I will say is that Christianity is a perfectly fine religion, but a lot of people are weaponizing it and using it as an excuse for discrimination.
“If the truth is being speaking to humans, the one's with evil mind are trapped!”
Control is suppression while managing is understanding... So we don't control; We understand!
We test our messages that we get from God in our quiet time by comparing them with standards of absolute honesty, absolute purity and absolute love with the intelligence to distinguish good from evil.
I'm no good for you, you're no good for me only bring each other to hate, tears and sorrow; Whoever control Africa, controls the World... Twin Flame!
“If we do not learn to live together as friends, we will die apart as fools.”
Wole Soyinka @~5:07 "One very important example culturally. When the Christians came, determined to spread the gospel, and they looked around, they couldn't find -- they needed the devil -- later on, I would like to talk about my experience with the devil, by the way. I think 3 encounters, vicariously, but very interesting. But...I dont want to change the subject. When they came they couldn't find the equivalent of the Devil , of Satan. And so they took one of the deities...and they took Èṣù and decided: that is the Devil. And they distorted the entire ethical structure... . So when we've talked about rebuilding, creatively rebuilding, the sense of, you know, ethical conduct among communities, we may have to go all the way back to what Christianity did to us in the African continent." (almost verbatim)
Hello Megh ! Point of correction => It's "Esu" they took not "Issue"
Megh Kalyanasundaram God will separate the wheat from the chaff, then from your wicked ways or be cast into the lake of fire, you have been warned! Jesus died for your sins, and rose from
the dead! And ascended into heaven! He was Gods son! Son of Man and Son of God! When he returns he will be baptize the world in fire, every knee will bow and every voice will profess Jesus as Lord! You have been warned, turn from your ways or be cast into hell!
Fabrications at best. And Christianity cant do anything to you, people with wrong ideas and wrong information can. You need to start thinking critically, and think, really truly think - for yourself in your own time and not take peoples "WORD" for it. The fact that you still consider yourself an African is proof of your unwillingness and laziness to think.
@@adebarahabeeb164 Thank you.
@@kevingolden4683 Yes Christianity can harm people negatively. You do realize that the trans-Atlantic slave trade and genocides around the world by Christians came from the Bible itself?
0:10 *Yes, Christianity was a very positive infuluence of the life in Roman Empire. It imporved position of women and slaves: by it's detractors it was called 'woman's religion'; many slaves were freed and all were required to be recognized as fellow humans and Christians, it made Roman Empire to abolish gladiatorial contests with the idea of killing eachother for sports, it stopped practice of killing infants who were deemed unworthy by the patriarch of the family (most of the time female childern), the expansion of charity, creation and spread of first hospitals in Eastern Roman Empire etc.* 0:20 - as I described it very much was true.
0:35 Yes, people cannot get better or worse as such. We all have the same human nature, and it does not change. People are still the same as they were 2000 years ago. *But we did started to behave more morally and societies get better thanks to Christianity - emphesis on Reason starting with Socholasticism, human rights begginig with medieval canon lawyers etc. People just do not notice things that we have thanks to it, because they are now normal, and we ignore normal things.*
0:53 *No, we should rather should go for Augustine and other Church Fathers. Theodosian Code was established by emperor Theodosius and not the Church. It was a Roman Law not a document of any ecumenical council or a Bible book.* Even though the Empire converted there was strong will from emperors to control the Church and use Christianity as a mean to unify the Empire. You cannot blame the Chruch or Christianity for that. After the establishment of Christendom, Catholicism was universal idea that tied it whole as one. Many heresies were a danger to peace and all people recognizing themselves as Christian brothers. Que spread of Arianism or wars of religion after Protestant Revolution. 1:16 *Why arbitrarly decide which book matters the most? Just to support your point?*
*As was pointed out by Barth Erhman most of the time Christians, Pagans and Jews lived together quite peacefully. The Roman Law was not very enforcable at the time, and the decline of paganism in RE was graudal and not enforced.*
1:35 This is definetly not true. They were not treated like 'subhumans' or 'demons'. And the Church does not have enemies it attacks ideas not people. But it did sometimes fight people to stop their ideas, in better and wors ways and for better or worse reasons. In a sense heretics are suffering form a sickness, if by that you mean being influnenced in false and often dangerous ideas. I think this quote from Chesterton best explains it:
" *On this map of the mind the errors are marked as exceptions. The greater part of it consists of playgrounds and happy hunting-fields, where the mind may have as much liberty as it likes;* not to mention any number of intellectual battle-fields in which the battle is indefinitely open and undecided. *But it [the Church] does definitely take the responsibility of marking certain roads as leading nowhere or leading to destruction, to a blank wall, or a sheer precipice.* By this means, it does prevent men from wasting their time or losing their lives upon paths that have been found futile or disastrous again and again in the past, but which might otherwise entrap travelers again and again in the future. The Church does make herself responsible for warning her people against these; and upon these the real issue of the case depends. *She does dogmatically defend humanity from its worst foes, those hoary and horrible and devouring monsters of the old mistakes.* "
1:43 *Yes, we know how to cure heretics. Through persuasion. This is how it was done most commonly through 2000 years of Church's history.* Even 1200 years after Christ when for the first time ever Inquisition was created because of a very dangerous heresy of Catharism, it dealt with death sentences as a very last resort (5% of trials).
4:40 *I completly disagree, Christianity was not 'preapering way' for colonialism. Missionaries were most of the time very geniuine.* Their purpouse was always to spread the Gospel, there was no intent to preapere any way. *Christianity came to Eastern Africa, to Nubia or Ethiopia, houndreds of years before colonial epoch even started.* You can also see that in what Jesuit and Capuchin missionaries did. E.g. after Kongo became Christian in 15th, it was recognized as part of Christendom and remained a free kingdom until 19th century. Christian missionaries in China or Japan (which were not colonised) were also going there and the colonial powers did not went there until 19th century. (I also do not see anything wrong with commerce) Christianity was always for every people in the same way. It is true that some missionaries went to different countries through colonialism but they were just using it as means that allowed them to fullfill the mission of evangelization. It is also true that colonial powers were using Christianization for their own benefit but this is not the faut of the Church or Christianity but of the colonizers themselves.
5:10 *I think this is a very good example to show that Christian missionaries were very respectful to grains of truth in every culture and eager to adapt already existing beliefs, as well as morally neutral customs and traditions that were not contrary to Christian ethics and to use native myths to point to the Truth of Christian theology and doctrine. I do not know what was specific morals and myths of those people but it would be important to ask if Christian ethics and theology was not the fullness of Truth, more healthy and more ethical than preexisting ones to evaluate if that was a good thing to do. Cultures are not equal.*
@@a.b.189 all you have is sarcasm. Weakest way to speak. All bitterness and anger, no intelligence 😂😂😂😂
Thankyou!!!
These people want that back??
I swear these people that hate Jesus want to kill and be romantic with kids and watch blood sports. Yea let's worship our leaders as gods? Wtf
@@luckyduckydaisyflower2344 I agree the people are wrong but just dont swear
As above so below, there is no organ in the body that represents the Devil in the African spiritual system
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@Sahdia Bennet hail satan
@Sahdia Bennet so what? Forgiving people with blood and torture, from a being who admits to liking the smell of burnt flesh, doesn't seem all that different.
And why should we trust ANY OF THESE 'spirits', even yours, by now.
@Sahdia Bennet Fair play - so, what has He SAID to you, in detail? And how did He FEEL about pogroms, wars, schisms, pro slavery priests, and the Inquisition?
Enough, to maybe, do, say, anything, about it... or the Magdalene laundries, etc, etc.
Also, what did Jesus say about giving people rotten meat? Interesting metaphor, to compare to Numbers 11...
And who is 'obvious'? Especially to tribes born with no idea which invisible god is which, and with oral history FURTHER destroyed, after Babel...
And ones can only steal or kill, too, if they get, ah, given the key into the world - and I don't think two semi ignorant gardeners, were really the ones to do that.
@Sahdia Bennet i whip for humanity, in due time we shall all come to the truth. God himself showing with signs(matt24vs6-10)according to the gospel of the lord Jesus, that he is feed up of is name be blasphemed among men.
@@chrissonofpear1384 this is the problem with men. we speak out of our foolish wisdom,thinking we are wise. GOD does not glory in evil (Malachi 2 vs 17),neither does he glory in the evil some men do in the name of serving him. this is why Jesus his to come, to separate the goat from the sheep(matt25vs31-34),so as to put an end to the blasphemy of is name. never the less THE DEVIL has infiltrated into the body of Christ, attesting to the prophecy of Paul(2 cor 11 vs 14-15)to wreck havock in the perilious time. But they that know their god shall be strong and do exploit(Dan11 vs 32).Note: God is God, and willl do what so ever he loves.remember the thing created/invented never says to the inventor/ creator what doest thou, we are the creation of God; God never destroys because he has power to do that,but the wickedness of men towards GOD in doing the things he hates,in other words, telling him he can't do anything leads to God's destruction.(Gen6vs11-13),(Gen19 vs 1-13), (Gen13vs13).But to crown it all is awesomeness still x-rayed and is still x-raying through his longsuffering(Gen 15vs 16) and mercy(Gen 18 vs 20-21). and of mercy because, despite God seeing and knowing there wickedness which is worthy of death, decided to show mercy by seeing if they had given heed to the preaching of his servant/prophet.But Unfortunetly they dampen in sin.study with the wisdom of God in you through the holy spirit.least you come out with nothing(doubt)(Gen 18 vs 20-21).
Shalom and many blessings!
Question for everyone.
What would be your initial thoughts on hundreds of thousands of African Americans leaving America at once; Mass Exodus style, back to Africa due to seeing no signs of our circumstances changing in America?
And would you go?
Shalom. Be still.... The Black Messiah is coming to take HIS choosen people home as it is scripted... Repent and keep His commandments, with unshakable faith in Christ.
@Dee Jaye All over Africa with the base being in Israel seeing that alot of African Americans are the true and living biblical Israelites
@Yosef Ben Yisrael as a African American, here is my answer. I would leave only if I am assured of getting the money i paid into social security and medicare, if I had it in a Iron clad contract, i would leave in a heartbeat.
We are devil in the same manner we are God. Two sides of the same coin. What creates division creates wars, hatred, strife. Christianity and Islam create divisions amongst people, cultures and nations. These two have brought wars and untold suffering. As as all humans, these two too have the potential to bring peace, education and prosperity. Two sides of the same coin.
we are not god! and we are not the devil wow I can’t believe you think this.
@@anarosemay3923 I can't believe you're that ignorant! Besides what evolution and natural selection have put here on earth, we are responsible for all else. We make the world what we want it to be. Men (male and female) make wars. Men craft devices and technologies. The world as we have it presently is as we have fashioned it. There's no intervention from any dead gods. So, we are gods and devils, two sides of the same coin. We are capable of infinite good. We are capable of infinite evil. Nothing stops us.
The fastest way to become an atheist or leave Christianity is to actually read the Bible with an open mind.
"Christianity is the poisoning, slandering, denying of life, contempt for the body, the denigration and self-violation of man through the concept sin."
Except if you read the Bible. The body is the honored vehicle of the divine. Sin is a cosmic reality, it’s why you have guilt. It’s what the existence of a conscious attests to you.
You cannot reason with religious folk, they are narrow minded and set in their belief.
bigot much
Narrow minded? What, like your comment?
@@topologyrob religion is a prison for the seekers of wisdom
@@herbnerd7 Quite the opposite - it's a way of escaping the prison of the ego, and embraced by wise people.
Suddenly the wise became a fool...
I feel very sorry as Ghanaian seing a ghanaian elder defending bullshit christianity
The most important one you will ever need to learn of is the one you came with.
Underrated comment
What?
Not-what? Who?
Yes, 100% evil!
Claiming to be something, has to have/has CORRESPONDING FEATURES/XTERISTERICS.
People should understand this fact.
ISAIAH 8:20;2 Cor.11:14 ;
Acts 17:11.
All religions are sun worship or moon worship. It’s pagan. But they say don’t do pagan. Do the unsean fairytale god but the god right in our faces. The sun and moon.
Yes, people ARE ARE worshipping the devil without knowing, according to the bible, u can't believe in god UNLESS u believe in the devil...
If you be-LIE-ve in a Devil then your mind will do everything it can to make it True for you. If you Check your be-LIE-fs well, challenge all superstitions as I have for many years, you will notice a Devil does not exist. The Bible is plagerism Cuneiform tablets, Pagan ways (do not have a Satan), and more. The Tablets have been translated correctly, throw the Bible away and read Cuneiform. You can worship anything that doesn't exist if that's something you choose to do. Worshiping a Devil is the same as Worshiping a Redwood Tree that has wings and flies around the world. It's goofy, and without any reason. If you read the Bible Completely, and I do mean Completely, you'll notice how sadistic that book god is, and that it supports slavery, as does "Jesus".
Do i worship you since i believe your existence?
Belief is the antithesis to knowing
@@billyflowers1 You're right, Belief is the direct opposite of Knowing. So if you believe in something, you might or not know something.
Conquest, Slavery, colonisation, exploitation I' will never prescribe to christianity.
where can I view the full version?
True and righteous ancestors guide me!!!!!!
Thank you stay Conscious ✊🏽
Holy Spirit can only comfort and guide you😃😃
Jesus loves you
GRACE MUSIC can y’all stop not everybody has the same beliefs thank you
Stay woke, many blessings
I no longer trust any "Christian" minister/pastor who knows LESS than I do about the Kemetic origins of all the Abrahamic religions. 😳
how about Torture in the ancient world?
How about the Idea of "love thy neighbor"?
What religion was that first woman?
"Love thy neighbor" is not an original Christian concept
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I think it was.
I need to sit and present a discussion at this table.
THE ANSWER IS YES
Wole Soyinka my best author of all time after Chinua Achebe.
Something very savage occurred during the formation of the church. It was just sad that it took thousands of years and millions of people for the formation to take place.
What savage thing occurred?
@@enniomojica7812 they killed ya boi Jesus aka yeshua
I have no idea what the black priest said.
🧿 The greatest performance the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist! Keep your children & Family safe folks. Love 🧿
I noticed the priest always laughing or smiling.. something about him just didn't sit right with me.. 🤔
they insult yall and yall say yesss praise the lord while they steady tell yall your not good enough and you going hell and yall dumb asses still give them ya money gwaf
@@spyingonyallteacup2744.. 😂yall!?.. plz don't speak for me.. u have no clue in my belief system or what I do.. so take that messy shit somewhere else.. don't come over here with ur negativity 🤡.. 😂😂
@@latinalove7139 having different views is now negativity
@@spyingonyallteacup2744having a different view is fine.. but you didn't come with a different view.. u came to my post attacking and assuming about what I do or think.. for absolutely no reason.. so yes negative..
@@latinalove7139 yo past girl bye I dont even fucking know you
for sure it is a force for good if lived as it is supposed to be lived. As humans are humans they tend to distort it and make compromises where no compromises should be made. In africa it was a very strong force for the good as it tried to stop polygamie, human sacrifice, the raiding and selling of slaves and other very immoral practices as for example the selling of unborn as wives to future husbands. Yes, these things are still practiced to a certain extend but at least the spread of the gospel brought a general moral codex, where there was no moral codex. Christians remain humans but the gospel they are spreading is a message of love and great inner and outer freedom. So yes, definitely a force for the good in man.
We are only reflections of the light in our eyes and that light is everlasting Love.
I don't see it that way. What drugs are you on. Or should I ask, who did you vote for?
Unambiguously, the power of evil. Even to prove the history of Christians it is not necessary, how much evil and blood of not necessary people shed by them.Also, we know very well how this paganism was formed.
Islam and Christianity is very dangerous
I'm former believer of lslam from one of the most religious country Palestine. I often read religious books I think Islam is smart religion as its newer than the rest but lot of it are totally backward.
@@mrt8085 Mali Afghanistan Niger Somalia are all 100% Muslim countries
They are the most backward countries in the entire World
I just want everybody to be happy. I don't give a damn WHAT you believe. Pray for peace.
So the Gay people that get shunned by their parents because they're gay and commit suicide because they're not accepted, did your beliefs want them to be happy? Because if it weren't for your beliefs so many people would still be here today. And the fact that people like you try to sugarcoat things like homophobia, bigotry, wanting people to change for your Gods standards is actually disgusting.
@@Mr_Knight_87 i also am feed up.evil things that were shuned in time past, now becomes the order of the day.in deed (revelation12vs12) and(proverb 30 vs 12)speaks in this present generation.
*_It's pure evil._*
Thanks, I don't feel so alone anymore.
It saved me. From death
@@yasmineansary7089 you know there are many forms of death.
@@reggyreptinall9598 yes the miracle type
Ah, so you'd prefer a world completely free of the concept of spiritual punishment for wrongdoings, and where nothing matters. That'd cure the maladies of the world.
Chrisitanity and Islam.. both pretty terrible religions.
All religions have different gods and only one evil. To live a god given life.... There have been a decillion of people passing through the earth, while we all sit upon it in the delusion and polution of ourselves as we project ego into the chaos, STOP. lets unite, the people the earth and life, life can be great for everyone we have the resources.
This is exactly the kind of ideology that inadvertently divides instead of unites. The resources??? What resources?
there is one god ALLAH azzawajal my god and your god. my dear.
@@qasimshah1423 I hear you brother, Zeus will unite us all. Zeus, the true one god. (Poseidon was just a token god so doesn't really count)
Wow I thought the brother was Morgan Freeman
I thought thesame thing... that guy does look a lot like Morgan Freeman...
Me to! Was like damn Morgan Freeman look bad
Me too!
Wole Soyinka......Writer, Poet, Winner ; Nobel prize for Literature.
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God: love people equally
Also god: those who dont follow are subhuman and must be culled.
See the contradiction? Its why i will always view this religion as a cult. It tells you how to think through subjugation, Not help you be a better person.
Are you talking of Christianity or islam?
@@larrybamayani3543 sir, both and most of the rest
First off, it is not really a cult. It's the way some of us as Christians act. They follow the old testament rule. God was the bieng who would tell humans to not worship any other idol but in the new testament, God doesn't mention the worship of other gods rather he just simply mentions, follow christ and you'll be free from sin. So next time, make sure you do enough research before coming to such a mediocre conclusion.
@@imakepancakes The Bible comes as a package. You seem to be nitpicking here. It's like skipping Dragon Ball and going straight to DBZ and sayin' that Goku never had a tail
@@kenshix7902 i talked about the old testament and the new testament. The old testament times are the times where there really was not as much freedom becuase God will immediately punish who ever worships another god but in the new testament, there's enough freedom, you can decide to give your life to christ and be forgiven of the consequences of worshipping other gods before. If you don't, that's your business.