I forgot to thank you for this content. I had put slings on 3 of my guns that are vintage WWII shooters. Mosin/Garand/Mauser...etc. and like them set up as they would have and were. Try to keep them as authenic as possible. Of course, each one has needed cleaning/ffull disassembly and inspecting, all before shooting. Each time I forget how to configure the sling and every time I have to come here to see. I do it and forget to tell you thanks, so THANKS. Very clean instructions and visuals. One of the best examples on TH-cam on how to. Keep it up
Thank you for the easy to follow along video. I could have never figured this out myself. I am mostly a visual learner. Now my Yugoslavian Mauser looks super sharp.
Thank you very much for the video. I couldn't have done this without your video. I watched three that left me Confused and wishing I had not bought the leather strap. But then I saw your video following followed along with you and attached my strap to my newly purchased Springfield Armory M1A standard . Took it to the range today put about 60 rounds threw it. It shot like it should dead nuts accurate. And every man there sit there and stared at this rifle. Anyhow thanks for your video you made the difference and long live the Republic!🇺🇸
Thank You Sir, this video was more helpful than the other vids in tubeland. This attachment method felt much more comfortable and got me an extra 50 points in my last match🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks again. I bought a new Springfield Loaded a few months ago and was going to attach my old sling from my competition AR15, which I set up with help 20 years ago, to it. I did not remember any of the methodology and winged it. Now I can go pull it from the safe and see how I did. I will save this video for the next time. Regards.
This helped a lot. In boot several years ago, we were trained on A2's with web slings, but getting into service rifle comps I've been wanting to transition to the 1907 sling. This sling seems like it doesn't cut off circulation like the web sling does. I'll have to try it. Thanks again. Semper fi.
Wow - this is a great video. Very clear and precise. It just so happens that I bought a new 1907 leather sling today and I need to attach it to my firearm. Easy peasy following your instruction. Thank you so much!!
Thank you, great delivery, been using 1907s for 50 years, six on my current rifles have them and I know I never attaching them as you demonstrate here, good times, now I get to see how many of those six rifles I got right and how many I will have to redo. Appreciate you.
Thanks for making this. All my Jim Owens books are faded & tattered, and we’re freshening up the hand-me-down Remington 514 (he’s the 4th generation to own this rifle) for my grandson, and he’ll have a kid-size M1907 on it just like his Opa has on my Garand and used on my issue Match M14, XM21 and M24 back in my shooter days. I have them on the rest of my serious rifles as well. I like to order extra keepers to snug the ends against the swivels. Keeps them from dangling around. I also use the TXARNG Team’s technique of twisting the tail to keep the adjustment immobile.
Thank you Mister.. finally a clear, concise demonstration not hurried through like it was a timed speed drill to see who could assemble the sling in the least amount of time.
Thank you for this video I just bought a M1A Loaded and couldn't remember how to sling it, too many years have passed sense the 60's and Viet Nam and my M14 rifle for me to remember Great Video
Good shit, I just purchased an M1907 sling to go on my Marlin 1895, I've never used one on a lever gun but I think it will work well with some adjustment. Thanks for the video!
I was recently been introduced to the sport of high power rifles. A new friend invited me to the range and I've been hooked ever since then!! I've been like a sponge that past six weeks or so trying to learn as much as possible. I think I've watched all of your videos on the subject. You are an excellent instructor and speak in a way that is easy to follow and understand. This particular video was great. You totally removed the mystery of the sling for me. I'm subscribed and look forward to more content. Keep up the great work!
Greg Richardson Thank you! I'm glad my video was helpful, and I'm even more glad you've taken up high power. I hope to meet you at the range sometime. Be sure to say "Hi" if you see me. Good luck, and take care.
Just got this sling. Been 25 years since I last owned one. Thanx for the excellent video on how to assemble it and to the rifle and how to form the loop!! Very clear instruction
I agree with everything but having the frogs on the inside. Not only will it scratch the hell out of your rifle, but you certainly don't want that metal pressing into your hand or arm when tightened up in position. Yes, you may be wearing a shooting glove. You can still adjust it just the same with them on the outside so I'm really not seeing the reasoning behind it.
I got lucky, I bought a sporterized Springfield 1898 30-40 Krag and they happened to have one of these leather slings in stock as well. I need one for deer hunting. But idk if it was the 1887 or one of the later variants, they all look similar. But I sold it to my dad who always wanted one. I now own a Marlin 336 SC that also has a leather sling that has a similar style, but it carries metal clamps to attach to swivel rings. I took off the modern swivel attachments that were on the clamps so I could use the sling on my rifle.
Your content is unique and super helpful. I'm trying to set up a proper sling config. on a Garand and your video shows the details that most other videos lack. Thanks again!
How the heck does TH-cam know I bought a M1907 sling for my 1903A3 last week? Most helpful video...I was close, but installed it upside down with the short strap up top. ;)
Thanks a lot! I just got the Springfield 1903 I've been looking for for nearly all my life. I attached a sling like this one to it but the frogs kept getting unhooked. Looking at how you did it, it makes way more sense than how I did it myself. Also, it makes more sense to have the frogs facing the way you did when you want to hike with your rifle, that way they don't pop out! Thanks!
Another excellent video and big help. I also experienced the same frustration in trying to remember how to properly attach a sling to a new rifle. Thank you for the video.
Coast Guard used the M1 well into the 1980’s... when they welded the barrels to the receivers ... effectively ruining thousands of beautiful, fully serviceable weapons. Anyway... I took second place in the Ninth Coast Guard District rifle matches, using an off the rack rifle. The key to my success was the plain old web sling. I’ve got a few Turner Saddlery slings, but they are simply too complex for non-match use. If you know what you are doing, the cotton sling is as good as the 1907.
Ok, HR - You got me started with CMP high power matches. I am going from rimefire 3P to CMP high power, and am setting up my AR with a M1907 sling, and a Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 1.5-4x 20mm 1/10 Mil Adjustments AR Ballistic Reticle. Thank you and very useful. Also, thx for the great intro videos on high power rifles. FletchMan
FletchMan...get you a laser range finder, a red dot, gillies suite, British WWII face veil, and some camoflouge, and you are set for life...Good luck shooting...
Definitely the clearest explanation I have seen yet. I would like some clarification though on proper tensioning (Length) as a shooting sling. I am having some trouble getting it adjusted correctly. BTW, I am using the sling on a Savage Mark II for rimfire sporter cometition. Thanks! Steve
The rule is to get the sling as tight as possible without having it effect your shooting platform. If the sling is too tight for you to get into a good position, you need to loosen it a bit. If it's so loose, that it provides little or no support then it needs to be tightened. There is a little trial and error involved in getting the sling just right, and it needs to work in conjunction with your shooting position. No matter how you tension the sling, it will not correct for a bad position. So, again, everything has to work in harmony with everything else! Hope this helps!
hrfunk : thanks! I did just that this morning between thundershowers. I'll email you 2 pics. one is before adjustments. the second is after. 20 rounds, 15 - bulleyes with 5 or 6 x @50 yards with my 22lr. I guess it works! thanks for the excellent advice. steve
Sorry, I thought I could upload a pic but can't find a way to do it. Been shooting less than 2 years but given my proximity to Camp Perry (40-miles to the east), I can't resist the urge to participate in the National Matches.
Steve Brown no problem. Shoot me an email at hrfunk@zoominternet.net. I'd like to see how you did! Also, there is nothing in the shooting sports that is quite as cool as shooting at the National Matches. I liken it to going to the Super Bowl, being able to go down on the field and play.
It's been at least a decade or so since I've shot CMP matches with the 1907 sling. But if memory serves me right you used the old Marine Corps setup, but it's the new Marine Corps setup that's the preferred version. It's exactly the same as you did, but in reverse so the frog is facing you while in the prone position; the Marine Corps decided this was more advantageous because it's easier to adjust the frog while in the prone position when it's facing you instead of being on the outside.
Thank you, Mr hrfunk. I got my Turner Saddlery sling today and finally came across your video. Your instruction is very detailed and much easier to follow. I now have mine set up and want to use it tomorrow on my M1A (standard) with some match rounds I loaded up. I have zero training with the competitive sling. Liked and Subscribed to your channel, sir.
New sling from CW Shields Cumberland Ohio showed up to day and I got her done thanks to your video. Can't wait to give it a spin this weekend, thanks again HRfunk
Can't help but notice Springfield puts their best quality walnut stocks on their super match rifles - beautiful rifle. Have a walnut standard M1A 308 & NM 6.5 Creedmoor M1A with black synthetic stock , both with leather slings - going to check & see if I did it right . Enjoyed your video .
Just watched this so I can install my original 1918 manufacture M1907 on my 1943 1903A3 Springfield. Of course I wasn't taught the marine method of rifle shooting but I was taught by my grandfather the US Army version though since he was a Corporal in the US Army during WWII.
Thank you for making this video. Just brought a 1903 back from a sporter. I have it installed now I will return for how to use it. Looks rock solid the way you are using it.
I setup my sling the same way, but was taught to have one of the keepers above the upper strap, so there’s a bit of a gap between them as the top one comes down onto the extra length of strap that sticks out. Hard to describe. It serves to keep the upper frog in place. Bottom line the keepers don’t touch each other. But I’ll try it this way as well. Appreciate the clear direction.
Not sure if you did one of these for the canvas sling. I have those on a few of my firearms and to this day I am not certain that I installed them properly. I note that I use the USN style of “quick” support for firing these rifles. Many thanks if you can do this type of video. Thank you.
There are several other ways to attach the sling. For what it’s worth, the sling configured as demonstrated in the video can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
6 years later and this video is still helping folks. I agree with another poster about having the frogs on the outside, but that's an easy change. Thank you, Sir!
Thank You I always have a problem with the 1907 sling I now have one on each of my Bolt Action Rifles and also on my AR-15 5.56 mm CMP Rifle and my 24" barreled AR-15 5.56 mm Over Watch Rifle .
Good stuff, sling looks like it is attached ok! However, should the "Metal" fittings on the sling be facing away from the stock to prevent scratching and/or damage? Just another way I attach the M1907 slings to my rifles. Regards, RJW
It's attached properly for the way I use it. The metal fittings (frogs) rarely contact the stock, and the few marks they make when they do just add character to the wood. Contrary to popular belief, rifles used for service rifle matches lead a pretty grueling life, and they usually show some scars to prove it.
Yeah prety sure it is backwards. Its 100% right just hardware goes out been shooting NRA high power and CMP matches for years and I've yet to see anyone else set up that way, use this type sling on my 03A3, M1, M1A, and my M16A2clone, there are none better.
Right. You ever replaced a fan belt on a multi-pulley car, better draw a damn diagram before you start...you think you can remember because it looks easy, but 5 minutes later you are scratching your head when trying to install the new one....this 1907 sling mounting is nuts...I've watch several videos on it and they are all different...how to mount it...
I had a difficult time trying to get the hook side through the loop on the stock. It catches in the brass. I'm guessing that I could try and file the brass down a but to make enough room to pull it through?
Fantastic,now I'm on to steady my rifle I think my sling is different than this one mine came from Springfield arm's I don't have the metal D - ring on my short strap like yours but, I can buy another a1907 sling
I see many saying that Hrfunks version of J. Owens book sling configuration is "wrong" Yet no one can point out the differences good or bad. I have used both methods being what I was told is the "competition" configuration and then the "army" configuration as seen here per CMP web site old.thecmp.org/training-tech/armorers-corner/1907-sling-installation/ I find Hrfunks demonstration to be the best way for me shooting cmp/nra high power The "military" way I find the keepers will walk loose. if anyone is using the 1907 sling and the hooks are rubbing the back of your hand or arm, your just doing it wrong
Thanks Mac. Interestingly, Jim Owens said people used to tell him he was doing to wrong too. In response, he told them it was not wrong, it was just different. All I can really say is his method works well for me.
hrfunk All that matters is that it works for you/me/them what ever “that” is. Same with those on the line who tell me my cast loads wont work in my M1/M1a/AR/ SKS Its all fun and its best to get to the line and shoot.
@hrfunk lots of keyboard warriors complaining about it being the "wrong way" here's some easy advice. There's a lot of things soldiers do that is different or not exactly the way the book says. Years of trial and error as well as finding what works best for you is where the stuff that works comes from. He even stated that this is a different way to do it. Hes not humping this thing 12 miles through the woods. Nor is getting ambushed a close range or assaulting a village. Hes using this set up for competition shooting. If he was carrying this every single day he might find a better method but for his purposes this is what works. No need to lose your minds on the guy.
I always thought the leather ones were better but I'm leaning more towards the cotton one. Seems like you have to replace it every year the more you use it though.
@@hrfunk yeah true. I always have to buy a new one. The seat belt kind really sucks as they slip but the cotton ones are solid for about a year or two then you got to buy a new one. I buy the two packs and it takes me about 3 years before having to buy a new set. I guess by now I can have a single leather one and maybe it’ll last longer for the same price.
pro tip pull the tail stock frogs through and make a loop and hook them. then pull the hooks and loop up, attach the frogs to itself and then pull them against the the tail stock swivel. This will give a mechanical pinch point so the short sling stays attached to the rifle. The way you have it in the video you can have the frogs come undone and pull through and you can fine yourself laying on the hooks in prone. Ouch! You will know what I mean if you ever had that happen to you.
Thanks for making this video. I just bought a Marlin 336 and I plan on putting a 1907 sling on it because I think leather on a lever action rifle looks good and I figure I would use a 1907 sling.
Mr Funk, i got out of the army in 2011 they were issuing the 1907 slings to snipers and DMR people. Just letting your know so as of 2011 they were still using this sling IDK what they are going now.
First off, let me say "Thank You, Sir." You, and those who served with you in the War on Terror are heroes in every sense of the word. Regarding your comment, I was aware the 1907 sling was still in limited use (I can't think of another piece of gear from that era still being used today. The M2 machine gun is the only thing that comes close!). I know, for instance, it's issued to rifle team members, and it's also routinely seen on parade/ceremonial rifles. Interestingly, I can't ever remember coming across one when I was in the Marine Corps in the 1980s. By that time, it had been almost completely supplanted by the web sling. The only exceptions in those days were Snipers, and the aforementioned parade/ceremonial rifles. Thanks for your comment and thanks again for your service.
I'm not trying to be flippant, but pretty much every rifle I have is a training rifle. What I mean by that is I can work on my basic marksmanship skills with most any rifle I pick up. If you are looking for inexpensive practice, air rifles and .22's are great. I have a S&W 15-22 that replicates the feel of my match rifle pretty well (but not the weight). Your best practice rifle is always going to be the one you use for matches. I realize it can be a time consuming and expensive proposition to head off to the range every time you want to practice and then burn up service rifle ammunition in the effort. Don't, however, overlook the benefit of dry-fire practice. You can literally do it in your back yard (or in a pinch you can do it in your basement). Just be sure to use a target proportional to the distance at which you are practicing. Dry-fire practice is essentially free, and the improvement it makes to your shooting can be dramatic. I've been thinking about doing a video on dry-fire practice. Maybe I'll make that a priority.
He's right, soldier. It's a catch 22; Sure, you can get a decent air rifle, or .22 and it will be a more cost effective way to master your BRM fundamentals. 9Steady position, sight picture, breathing, trigger squeeze) but don't paint yourself in a corner, if you train consistently on a .22 or a air rifle and then show up to compete for a high power your going to be set up for failure. The dynamics of two weapons compare like apples and oranges. ( If you want a plinker that you can practice fundamentals I would go with a 10/22 or if cash strapped a Marlin 710 or seving something about $100 for a semi auto .22 with a traditional stock but I would also end my session with running a mag or two out of your high power rig. Also get a wood dowel and a dime. Master 25 times in a row then put a 1qt canteen on the end of your muzzle and do it again. You were in the Army you know the drill...unless your one of those Jackson or Lost-in-the-Woods soldiers. All else fails you can really tighten up your groups by doing more PT. Seriously, strength training and endurance training = less fatigue. Less fatigue=steadier position+ less breathing= tighter groups.
I forgot to thank you for this content. I had put slings on 3 of my guns that are vintage WWII shooters. Mosin/Garand/Mauser...etc. and like them set up as they would have and were. Try to keep them as authenic as possible. Of course, each one has needed cleaning/ffull disassembly and inspecting, all before shooting. Each time I forget how to configure the sling and every time I have to come here to see. I do it and forget to tell you thanks, so THANKS.
Very clean instructions and visuals. One of the best examples on TH-cam on how to.
Keep it up
Thanks Al! I’m glad it’s helpful!
Thank you for the easy to follow along video. I could have never figured this out myself. I am mostly a visual learner. Now my Yugoslavian Mauser looks super sharp.
You’re welcome. I’m glad it helped!
Thank you very much for the video. I couldn't have done this without your video. I watched three that left me Confused and wishing I had not bought the leather strap. But then I saw your video following followed along with you and attached my strap to my newly purchased Springfield Armory M1A standard . Took it to the range today put about 60 rounds threw it. It shot like it should dead nuts accurate. And every man there sit there and stared at this rifle. Anyhow thanks for your video you made the difference and long live the Republic!🇺🇸
You’re welcome. Enjoy that M1A!
Thank You Sir, this video was more helpful than the other vids in tubeland. This attachment method felt much more comfortable and got me an extra 50 points in my last match🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Good shooting Dana! I’m glad the video helped!
Very helpful and easy to follow. my M1907 sling looks great on my M1907SL. Thank you sir.
My pleasure.
Thanks again. I bought a new Springfield Loaded a few months ago and was going to attach my old sling from my competition AR15, which I set up with help 20 years ago, to it. I did not remember any of the methodology and winged it. Now I can go pull it from the safe and see how I did. I will save this video for the next time.
Regards.
This helped a lot. In boot several years ago, we were trained on A2's with web slings, but getting into service rifle comps I've been wanting to transition to the 1907 sling. This sling seems like it doesn't cut off circulation like the web sling does. I'll have to try it. Thanks again. Semper fi.
Mark Bryant Semper Fi! Glad to help.
Wow - this is a great video. Very clear and precise. It just so happens that I bought a new 1907 leather sling today and I need to attach it to my firearm. Easy peasy following your instruction. Thank you so much!!
You are very welcome. I don’t think I’ve done one for the canvas sling. I’ll see if I can get one up.
Thank you, great delivery, been using 1907s for 50 years, six on my current rifles have them and I know I never attaching them as you demonstrate here, good times, now I get to see how many of those six rifles I got right and how many I will have to redo. Appreciate you.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
That's the way I set up my 1907. The way you show works best for highpower competition. I use a cotton web sling on my AR and a leather on my M1A.
Thanks for making this. All my Jim Owens books are faded & tattered, and we’re freshening up the hand-me-down Remington 514 (he’s the 4th generation to own this rifle) for my grandson, and he’ll have a kid-size M1907 on it just like his Opa has on my Garand and used on my issue Match M14, XM21 and M24 back in my shooter days. I have them on the rest of my serious rifles as well.
I like to order extra keepers to snug the ends against the swivels. Keeps them from dangling around. I also use the TXARNG Team’s technique of twisting the tail to keep the adjustment immobile.
It sounds like your grandson is going to be well prepared. I hope he enjoys shooting that rifle!
Thank you Mister.. finally a clear, concise demonstration not hurried through like it was a timed speed drill to see who could assemble the sling in the least amount of time.
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful.
Thank you for this video I just bought a M1A Loaded and couldn't remember how to sling it, too many years have passed sense the 60's and Viet Nam and my M14 rifle for me to remember Great Video
You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful!
Good shit, I just purchased an M1907 sling to go on my Marlin 1895, I've never used one on a lever gun but I think it will work well with some adjustment. Thanks for the video!
You're welcome! I've never used one on a lever gun either, but it should work just fine. Let me know!
I was recently been introduced to the sport of high power rifles. A new friend invited me to the range and I've been hooked ever since then!! I've been like a sponge that past six weeks or so trying to learn as much as possible. I think I've watched all of your videos on the subject. You are an excellent instructor and speak in a way that is easy to follow and understand. This particular video was great. You totally removed the mystery of the sling for me. I'm subscribed and look forward to more content. Keep up the great work!
Greg Richardson Thank you! I'm glad my video was helpful, and I'm even more glad you've taken up high power. I hope to meet you at the range sometime. Be sure to say "Hi" if you see me. Good luck, and take care.
What's High Power? I dono but bet it's gonna be outlawed soon....just kidding...it's the big rifles that knock the shit out of you...! lol
Very good demonstration putting it on. Thank you for posting.
Just got this sling. Been 25 years since I last owned one. Thanx for the excellent video on how to assemble it and to the rifle and how to form the loop!! Very clear instruction
Gates Larry You’re welcome!
Thanks so much for showing how to install this sling and how to use it. I really appreciate this video
You’re welcome. I’m glad it was helpful!
I agree with everything but having the frogs on the inside. Not only will it scratch the hell out of your rifle, but you certainly don't want that metal pressing into your hand or arm when tightened up in position. Yes, you may be wearing a shooting glove. You can still adjust it just the same with them on the outside so I'm really not seeing the reasoning behind it.
Bloke chill
The "frogs" face outward not inward to the stock. You are correct.
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I got lucky, I bought a sporterized Springfield 1898 30-40 Krag and they happened to have one of these leather slings in stock as well. I need one for deer hunting. But idk if it was the 1887 or one of the later variants, they all look similar. But I sold it to my dad who always wanted one. I now own a Marlin 336 SC that also has a leather sling that has a similar style, but it carries metal clamps to attach to swivel rings. I took off the modern swivel attachments that were on the clamps so I could use the sling on my rifle.
Go on a 25 mile hike with your rifle on your shoulder with the frogs on the inside. Afterwards let us know which side they should be facing.
5 miles enough to figure ;)
I'm taking my M1 hunting next month, so, we'll see how I do with my 1907 sling.
That sounds like fun. Be sure to let me know how it goes.
Don't be a jerk.
Your content is unique and super helpful. I'm trying to set up a proper sling config. on a Garand and your video shows the details that most other videos lack. Thanks again!
You're welcome. Best of luck to you.
What a major production. I will gladly stay with a one piece. Just attached a leather one to my 1946 British Army Lee Enfield.
How the heck does TH-cam know I bought a M1907 sling for my 1903A3 last week? Most helpful video...I was close, but installed it upside down with the short strap up top. ;)
Thanks a lot! I just got the Springfield 1903 I've been looking for for nearly all my life. I attached a sling like this one to it but the frogs kept getting unhooked. Looking at how you did it, it makes way more sense than how I did it myself. Also, it makes more sense to have the frogs facing the way you did when you want to hike with your rifle, that way they don't pop out! Thanks!
You’re welcome. I’m glad it worked for you!
Another excellent video and big help. I also experienced the same frustration in trying to remember how to properly attach a sling to a new rifle. Thank you for the video.
You're welcome! I just recently refered back to it when I installed another sling on one of my rifles.
Coast Guard used the M1 well into the 1980’s... when they welded the barrels to the receivers ... effectively ruining thousands of beautiful, fully serviceable weapons. Anyway... I took second place in the Ninth Coast Guard District rifle matches, using an off the rack rifle. The key to my success was the plain old web sling. I’ve got a few Turner Saddlery slings, but they are simply too complex for non-match use. If you know what you are doing, the cotton sling is as good as the 1907.
Ok, HR - You got me started with CMP high power matches. I am going from rimefire 3P to CMP high power, and am setting up my AR with a M1907 sling, and a Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 1.5-4x 20mm 1/10 Mil Adjustments AR Ballistic Reticle. Thank you and very useful. Also, thx for the great intro videos on high power rifles. FletchMan
You're welcome! I hope to see you at the range.
FletchMan...get you a laser range finder, a red dot, gillies suite, British WWII face veil, and some camoflouge, and you are set for life...Good luck shooting...
Very good job my friend !!! THANK YOU for passing on your knowledge, and it was presented in a friendly and confident manner............. GREAT JOB
You are most welcome. Thanks for watching!
Definitely the clearest explanation I have seen yet. I would like some clarification though on proper tensioning (Length) as a shooting sling. I am having some trouble getting it adjusted correctly. BTW, I am using the sling on a Savage Mark II for rimfire sporter cometition.
Thanks!
Steve
The rule is to get the sling as tight as possible without having it effect your shooting platform. If the sling is too tight for you to get into a good position, you need to loosen it a bit. If it's so loose, that it provides little or no support then it needs to be tightened. There is a little trial and error involved in getting the sling just right, and it needs to work in conjunction with your shooting position. No matter how you tension the sling, it will not correct for a bad position. So, again, everything has to work in harmony with everything else! Hope this helps!
hrfunk : thanks! I did just that this morning between thundershowers. I'll email you 2 pics. one is before adjustments. the second is after. 20 rounds, 15 - bulleyes with 5 or 6 x @50 yards with my 22lr. I guess it works! thanks for the excellent advice.
steve
You're welcome! Im glad it worked so well for you!
Sorry, I thought I could upload a pic but can't find a way to do it. Been shooting less than 2 years but given my proximity to Camp Perry (40-miles to the east), I can't resist the urge to participate in the National Matches.
Steve Brown no problem. Shoot me an email at hrfunk@zoominternet.net. I'd like to see how you did! Also, there is nothing in the shooting sports that is quite as cool as shooting at the National Matches. I liken it to going to the Super Bowl, being able to go down on the field and play.
It's been at least a decade or so since I've shot CMP matches with the 1907 sling. But if memory serves me right you used the old Marine Corps setup, but it's the new Marine Corps setup that's the preferred version. It's exactly the same as you did, but in reverse so the frog is facing you while in the prone position; the Marine Corps decided this was more advantageous because it's easier to adjust the frog while in the prone position when it's facing you instead of being on the outside.
If the metal is digging into you while in position your not using the sling correctly. in either configuration
Thanks for your video! Well done. I think I'll switch out my M1A's strap from the web sling to the 1907.
That was a great refresher. I think we could all do with a refresher from time to time.
Thanks
You're welcome! Like I said in the video, I'm looking forward to being able to watch it the next time I need to attache a sling!
This is great. I really needed to see this. I have an M1A as well as a Car and and I have that sling on both rifles.
I’m glad it was helpful. Thanks for the comment!
Thank you, Mr hrfunk. I got my Turner Saddlery sling today and finally came across your video. Your instruction is very detailed and much easier to follow. I now have mine set up and want to use it tomorrow on my M1A (standard) with some match rounds I loaded up. I have zero training with the competitive sling. Liked and Subscribed to your channel, sir.
Thank you Andy, and welcome aboard!
Great explanation -- very detailed and much appreciated.
I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching Tom!
New sling from CW Shields Cumberland Ohio showed up to day and I got her done thanks to your video. Can't wait to give it a spin this weekend, thanks again HRfunk
You’re welcome. Be sure to let me know how it goes.
Very professional and explained it well. Thank you!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching Rod!
Can't help but notice Springfield puts their best quality walnut stocks on their super match rifles - beautiful rifle. Have a walnut standard M1A 308 & NM 6.5 Creedmoor M1A with black synthetic stock , both with leather slings - going to check & see if I did it right . Enjoyed your video .
I watched 2 other videos and yours was the best. Thanks you make a very good instructor.
Thank you! I've had quite a bit of practice over the years.
Well, you're just a fuckin genius. Best vid for this on TH-cam.
Great instructions!! Thanks!!
Just watched this so I can install my original 1918 manufacture M1907 on my 1943 1903A3 Springfield. Of course I wasn't taught the marine method of rifle shooting but I was taught by my grandfather the US Army version though since he was a Corporal in the US Army during WWII.
You should be able to install that sling with no trouble at all.
Excellent video!! Big thanks for showing your viewers how to attach and use this sling.
You're welcome! I hope it was helpful!
Excellent video, thanks HR.
Thanks Roy!
This was the most helpful leather loop sling video I found. Thanks!
Andrew Kenseth You're welcome. I'm glad it was helpful.
Excellent video. Thank you for putting this together sir!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
Great job and thank you very much, have a great Christmas God bless
Very nice presentation! Great job!
Thank you!
Thank you for making this video. Just brought a 1903 back from a sporter. I have it installed now I will return for how to use it. Looks rock solid the way you are using it.
It’s quite steady. Give it a try from a good position and I think you’ll be happy!
Thanks for making this video. I have the book also but it's good to see someone else set it up. Great job.
Thank you. I’m glad it was helpful!
I setup my sling the same way, but was taught to have one of the keepers above the upper strap, so there’s a bit of a gap between them as the top one comes down onto the extra length of strap that sticks out. Hard to describe. It serves to keep the upper frog in place. Bottom line the keepers don’t touch each other. But I’ll try it this way as well. Appreciate the clear direction.
You’re welcome. Best of luck to you!
Not sure if you did one of these for the canvas sling. I have those on a few of my firearms and to this day I am not certain that I installed them properly. I note that I use the USN style of “quick” support for firing these rifles. Many thanks if you can do this type of video. Thank you.
I don't think I have done a video for the canvas swings. I'll see if I can get one up.
Excellent Video and Instructions!! Thank you for sharing this!!
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
Well this is one way to attach the sling. There is another method where the sling can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
There are several other ways to attach the sling. For what it’s worth, the sling configured as demonstrated in the video can be adjusted without unhooking the frog.
6 years later and this video is still helping folks. I agree with another poster about having the frogs on the outside, but that's an easy change. Thank you, Sir!
My pleasure Vincent! I’m glad it’s helpful.
Thanks HR. Found your video this morning trying to put a 1907 sling on an M1 Garand!
You're welcome. I am glad it was helpful.
Thank You I always have a problem with the 1907 sling I now have one on each of my Bolt Action Rifles and also on my AR-15 5.56 mm CMP Rifle and my 24" barreled AR-15 5.56 mm Over Watch Rifle .
You're welcome! I hope the video helped.
Great job! You actually do it right and you do a good job of explaining it.
Dennis DeMille Thank you!
Good stuff, sling looks like it is attached ok! However, should the "Metal" fittings on the sling be facing away from the stock to prevent scratching and/or damage? Just another way I attach the M1907 slings to my rifles. Regards, RJW
It's attached properly for the way I use it. The metal fittings (frogs) rarely contact the stock, and the few marks they make when they do just add character to the wood. Contrary to popular belief, rifles used for service rifle matches lead a pretty grueling life, and they usually show some scars to prove it.
Yeah prety sure it is backwards. Its 100% right just hardware goes out been shooting NRA high power and CMP matches for years and I've yet to see anyone else set up that way, use this type sling on my 03A3, M1, M1A, and my M16A2clone, there are none better.
Glad I found your video . Very helpful thanks
I’m glad it was!
Thank you.
How about to show us a militairy attachment of the sling to the rifle?
I'll see what I can do.
Very helpful thank you!
How do you attach a sling that has swing swivel on it already? I feel like they will scratch my guns swivels? Thanks, great video!
skip to 2:48
Very nice. Thanks for the how-to video
Dam, you got it wrong. Ever since the AR crowd started using this sling you folks get it backwards.
It’s not backward, it’s just a different way of using it.
After watching several methods of installation, I drew a diagram to remind me of how I like to have it installed.
Right. You ever replaced a fan belt on a multi-pulley car, better draw a damn diagram before you start...you think you can remember because it looks easy, but 5 minutes later you are scratching your head when trying to install the new one....this 1907 sling mounting is nuts...I've watch several videos on it and they are all different...how to mount it...
I love your videos. Best videos I've seen for clear and concise info.
Thank you Jason!
I can tell this man has spent time teaching Privates.
glad you said it was a variation by a veteran. there are many ways to do this, but only one taught by army
So I've heard. I actually prefer the method I showed in the video. I'm sure there are others who prefer different ways of doing it.
Outstanding video. Thank you!
You're welcome. I'm glad you liked it!
Hey great video bro! Just ordered my first M1A. Looking for this exact 1907 style sling. What brand is yours? I see a lot and most look like knockoffs
Thank you. This sling was made by Turner Saddlery.
@@hrfunk Awesome thanks a lot
Great, easy to follow instruction. Thanks for the video.
J D you're welcome!
Your video was very helpfull for me! Thank you and best regards from Germany!
Thomas You're welcome! I'm glad to have helped.
Great video! Always wondered how to do this.
I had a difficult time trying to get the hook side through the loop on the stock. It catches in the brass. I'm guessing that I could try and file the brass down a but to make enough room to pull it through?
It’s usually a little tight, but it should fit.
Fantastic,now I'm on to steady my rifle I think my sling is different than this one mine came from Springfield arm's I don't have the metal D - ring on my short strap like yours but, I can buy another a1907 sling
Excellent video my man,, just went step by step with you to put a triple K military sling on my new Winchester 70 458 mag
brad fiser Outstanding! Glad to be of service.
Hard to beat the old school military slang
Thanks! Couldn’t have done it without you.
Glad I could help!
I have three slings on three rifles and now I know how to set them up and how to use them. Thanks
You’re welcome.
Thank you for explaining this well!:-)
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Great video, watched multiple times. Still can’t figure it out. Guess I’m not a military man, but I sure do love old rifles
I see many saying that Hrfunks version of J. Owens book sling configuration is "wrong" Yet no one can point out the differences good or bad. I have used both methods being what I was told is the "competition" configuration and then the "army" configuration as seen here per CMP web site
old.thecmp.org/training-tech/armorers-corner/1907-sling-installation/
I find Hrfunks demonstration to be the best way for me shooting cmp/nra high power
The "military" way I find the keepers will walk loose. if anyone is using the 1907 sling and the hooks are rubbing the back of your hand or arm, your just doing it wrong
Thanks Mac. Interestingly, Jim Owens said people used to tell him he was doing to wrong too. In response, he told them it was not wrong, it was just different. All I can really say is his method works well for me.
hrfunk
All that matters is that it works for you/me/them what ever “that” is. Same with those on the line who tell me my cast loads wont work in my M1/M1a/AR/ SKS
Its all fun and its best to get to the line and shoot.
Agreed!
Great presentation
Thank you Hank!
@hrfunk lots of keyboard warriors complaining about it being the "wrong way" here's some easy advice. There's a lot of things soldiers do that is different or not exactly the way the book says. Years of trial and error as well as finding what works best for you is where the stuff that works comes from. He even stated that this is a different way to do it. Hes not humping this thing 12 miles through the woods. Nor is getting ambushed a close range or assaulting a village. Hes using this set up for competition shooting. If he was carrying this every single day he might find a better method but for his purposes this is what works. No need to lose your minds on the guy.
I always thought the leather ones were better but I'm leaning more towards the cotton one. Seems like you have to replace it every year the more you use it though.
I still like the leather slings better. They hold their adjustments more securely and they’re easier to repeat the same adjustments.
@@hrfunk yeah true. I always have to buy a new one. The seat belt kind really sucks as they slip but the cotton ones are solid for about a year or two then you got to buy a new one. I buy the two packs and it takes me about 3 years before having to buy a new set. I guess by now I can have a single leather one and maybe it’ll last longer for the same price.
very nice. Thank you.
Thank you Sir!
You’re welcome Chris!
Good vid, I this really puts into perspective how well you did losing weight
Thank you!
pro tip pull the tail stock frogs through and make a loop and hook them. then pull the hooks and loop up, attach the frogs to itself and then pull them against the the tail stock swivel. This will give a mechanical pinch point so the short sling stays attached to the rifle. The way you have it in the video you can have the frogs come undone and pull through and you can fine yourself laying on the hooks in prone. Ouch! You will know what I mean if you ever had that happen to you.
Thanks for the tip!
Great video thank you 🙏
You’re welcome Rick!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thanks for making this video. I just bought a Marlin 336 and I plan on putting a 1907 sling on it because I think leather on a lever action rifle looks good and I figure I would use a 1907 sling.
The 1907 sling should work fine and dandy! Enjoy your new rifle!
Mr Funk, i got out of the army in 2011 they were issuing the 1907 slings to snipers and DMR people. Just letting your know so as of 2011 they were still using this sling IDK what they are going now.
First off, let me say "Thank You, Sir." You, and those who served with you in the War on Terror are heroes in every sense of the word. Regarding your comment, I was aware the 1907 sling was still in limited use (I can't think of another piece of gear from that era still being used today. The M2 machine gun is the only thing that comes close!). I know, for instance, it's issued to rifle team members, and it's also routinely seen on parade/ceremonial rifles. Interestingly, I can't ever remember coming across one when I was in the Marine Corps in the 1980s. By that time, it had been almost completely supplanted by the web sling. The only exceptions in those days were Snipers, and the aforementioned parade/ceremonial rifles. Thanks for your comment and thanks again for your service.
I was a 50 cal gunner for 2 years in iraq. I have been working on Hi power matches not doing so well. DO you have a training rifle like a pellet gun?
I'm not trying to be flippant, but pretty much every rifle I have is a training rifle. What I mean by that is I can work on my basic marksmanship skills with most any rifle I pick up. If you are looking for inexpensive practice, air rifles and .22's are great. I have a S&W 15-22 that replicates the feel of my match rifle pretty well (but not the weight). Your best practice rifle is always going to be the one you use for matches. I realize it can be a time consuming and expensive proposition to head off to the range every time you want to practice and then burn up service rifle ammunition in the effort. Don't, however, overlook the benefit of dry-fire practice. You can literally do it in your back yard (or in a pinch you can do it in your basement). Just be sure to use a target proportional to the distance at which you are practicing. Dry-fire practice is essentially free, and the improvement it makes to your shooting can be dramatic. I've been thinking about doing a video on dry-fire practice. Maybe I'll make that a priority.
He's right, soldier. It's a catch 22; Sure, you can get a decent air rifle, or .22 and it will be a more cost effective way to master your BRM fundamentals. 9Steady position, sight picture, breathing, trigger squeeze) but don't paint yourself in a corner, if you train consistently on a .22 or a air rifle and then show up to compete for a high power your going to be set up for failure. The dynamics of two weapons compare like apples and oranges. (
If you want a plinker that you can practice fundamentals I would go with a 10/22 or if cash strapped a Marlin 710 or seving something about $100 for a semi auto .22 with a traditional stock but I would also end my session with running a mag or two out of your high power rig. Also get a wood dowel and a dime. Master 25 times in a row then put a 1qt canteen on the end of your muzzle and do it again. You were in the Army you know the drill...unless your one of those Jackson or Lost-in-the-Woods soldiers.
All else fails you can really tighten up your groups by doing more PT. Seriously, strength training and endurance training = less fatigue. Less fatigue=steadier position+ less breathing= tighter groups.
never did the canteen drill, was in the infantry.
Very helpful.Thanks a bunch.
You're welcome!
Very good and informative video, thank you!
You're welcome, Brad. Thanks for the comment!
Awesome thanks🇺🇸👍
Thank you for the helpful video sir
You’re most welcome.