to be honest if i was him and i got an "OK" from the government i would sell the shit out of the poison crops, let alone kill myself because of shame and regret. that man was a true hero.
Easily Offended sometimes they do, i was aware of what might happen when i signed, but signing made it possible for my ma to get the medical care she needed, so you weigh your choices and make heavy decisions, just like when they have you write up your recipients and %'s for your death gratuity, $100,000 is the value of my life apparently.
Baneraze Damn, if that was the case I might have done the same thing. But if that statistic in the video was true ("99% have PTSD to some degree") , then it should be more than just an "honorable mention" when they sign new recruits...hell just show them this 15 min video
This is total BS. American servicemen and veterans need to be taken care of, not medicated into zombies. These men guarantee our freedom. The state of these veterans is unacceptable. We owe these heroes more.
My brother in law took his life 5 years ago after trying to get help for PTSD from his tours in Afghanistan. Never received help and now my 2 nephews are fatherless.
I have paranoid schizophrenia and these soldiers are on 10x more meds then me. I've been to the furthest reaches of insanity and back and I only take 1 medication. Some people need meds and they do work. The one soldier named off all of his meds and holy fuck thats a serious cocktail. No wonder why he's fucked up. He needs to taper them down slowly. I know from experience you can't just stop them all at once. Coming off that kind of cocktail can fuck your mind up until you get over taking the meds. That is some serious mind altering shit. No one should be on that many meds at once. His doctor should have his license taken away.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING! I'm a future Pharmacist and when he started listing off all the drugs he took I am totally shocked. Thats a LOOOOT of different meds for a lot of different conditions. It's no surprise they are mentally out of wack. Gabepentin,Welbutrin,zoloft,clonidine,atavan,vistiril? jesus
socialchronic I've tried a lot of meds in my day but not all at once. I've had homicidal and suicidal thoughts from coming off of antidepressants. I stay away from them all together. I've taken paxil prozac symbyax lexapro and zoloft. I just can't take ssri inhibitors. They throw my mind out of whack. I've also taken zyprexa saphris seroquel risperdal haldol thorazine klonopin xanax and ativan. Some meds I've tried willingly some meds I had forced on me in the hospital via injections. Coming off of major coctails of drugs can fuck your mind up more then before you initially took them. It can take a long time get over what some meds do. I never had auditory hallucinations until I quit taking risperdol. I had my first psychosis while coming off of risperdol. I've been on a single dose of zyprexa 15 mgs for 20 years. Every once in a while my doctor talks me into trying something new like saphris. It usually don't work out and I end up back on zyprexa.
I found that a mild pain killer called Tramadol does wonders for my depression. Moreover, it helps my back pain to be manageable, which is why I take it in the first place. =) 3-5 Tramadol a day, and I'm sorted. Back pain and depression are both mitigated rather effectively. While I am sure it is a low dose "opiate", it is not as dangerous and abuse prone as Vicodin, Oxy, or some of thee other more popular pain killers. I do wager it has an addictive potential though, most meds do on some level.
I agree these damn pharmaceuticals are so dangerous and the doctors prescribing them aren't pharmacologist or chemical engineers doctors really don't understand pharmacology all they do is prescribe the drugs.. When something as simple as medicinal marijuana can do wonders when States start of additional marijuana program the suicides go down by 15 percent for women and 25 percent in men
VICE talks with veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan who are struggling with mental illness, addiction, and PTSD-often overprescribed narcotics and other pharmaceuticals that bring their own sets of problems. Watch Episode 10 Debrief: bit.ly/19Md0CF More episodes from Season 2: bit.ly/VICE-HBO-S2-E1
Middleastbeast I agree with you, but you have to remember these people just want to protect their country and these soilders are not told everything by the government that is sending them there. I'm all for letting the middle East solve their own dam problems because we're the ones creating our own terrorists by helping any one over there. The US is absolutely responsible for the people that want to take us down and I can't blame them. The only way to fix it is to let them have their religious war and figure it out themselves. You however can't blame the people we send over there. Military training breaks individuals down until they become compliant and they are left in the dark as to the purpose of their deployment. Blame the gov not the solider. side note Bill Maher is the guy that had this thing down. They need to kill each other, we can't stop them from doing it and there is no reasoning with people that take religion to extremes. That goes for all religions, Christianity had to go through the same thing at one point. Personally the sooner religion is completely wiped out the better, it's the main thing that drives humanity apart and had NO place in modern society. All it does I get in the way of humanities progress.
How could you agree with what I said and say they're just defending their country they created all the enemies they have today by going to barbaric countries. They think by joining the military they are doing something right but do we really need to spend all our money on defense?
Middleastbeast no that's true we spend far too much on defense. It's an astronomical amount of money that could be very well spent elsewhere, not to mention the black budgets. Yea people make the choice to join the military but the media is the one providing that misinformation to the people that sign up for the military. People don't have a deep understanding of this because the correct information is not readily available. They are told it's protecting you and me and in some ways it is, but it's doing far more damage than good. You can't blame the men and women that sign up for this fight, when they are misinformed add to why they are even going over there. I greatly feel for the men and women that do this, because they do it for me and you, it's not a just cause nor is it right we are over there. But I do not blame the people who serve. I really equate it to the drug war. The people that still believe that policing drugs and criminalizing small time offenders are misinformed. For years they were told about the evils of drugs and they waged a war on something they could never beat. We throw billions at this cause that is only perpetuated by media that tells people drugs are some evil entity that needs to be eradicated. When really we could tax it provide treatment, and do seat with the wine laws and overcrowded jails because some kid had a gram of weed on him. Unjust cause, perpetuated by media, and then fought out by people just going what they are told.
Both of these situations are absolutely unacceptable. How can we help the people involved? I think there is great opportunity for entrepreneurial minds to help fix these issues. We just need to take our minds off the latest smart watch for one second to see that there are bigger problems to solve.
But the majority of technology engineers, scientists etc. ARE thinking about solving those problems, you're just not going to be sold it or see it on TV or advertising billboards. There just isn't a viable theory for the former, the latter is just bad practice.
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First never blame these brave men and women, they were physically/mentally strong and completed many difficult tasks, which qualified them as our military people. In order to get them to respond the way our military demanded their emotional systems were replaced with physical automated responses. However, these are living breathing humans, that will respond to such structuring and training. When the military is done with them they are cast away like broken down machinery. These people, if left without resources will have all of the emotions that were suppressed come flooding back. Yes their physical missions have been completed; but eventually the mind will demand to be recognized. If they are denied immediate mental health attention (first 90 days) they will struggle a life time. It is not appropriate to ask them at the end of their military days if these issues exist, as their goals are to get away from such a career that has damaged them. The best method would be to let them process out, and then have a meeting with them, a doctor, and a true advocate for these military men or women. This physical/mental health exam should be done within the first 21 days of discharge. The discharge exam should in NO WAY be viewed as punitive and must have be collaborative in nature. After the exam a follow up care provision shall be implemented and signed off by all three 1) the Attending Doctor, 2) The patient (the discharged), 3) the Hand Selected Advocate.
James C Elson Jr nice post and very very true in fact.Being demilterized is life changing as much as being milterized except you get training to become this day in and day out.When your time is done there is no training to return to society.You still sleep eat. work with the same mentallity for a very long time.Thank you.
The worst thing about all this, and most matters like this, is that nothing is done about it. These problems still plague us. Many of these comments are from people who are outraged, and most people who watch the video have similar feelings. The problem is few people actually care. We could fix so many problems in the world if we just all came together and tried to fix them. Unfortunately, I, like many people, will just continue with my life and most likely completely forget most of this by the time I wake up tomorrow morning.
Very good show, especially with the treatment of the American Vets. I had ptsd with the Royal Air Force, and I had a similar experience, they just wanted you to take tablets and get on with it. Problem is that depression is like a tree and tablets only kill the leaves, you need therapy to understand it and dig out the roots, come to terms with what is troubling you. I actually got to the point where I made a direct threat of violence against a senior officer in the medical service to prove the point that I wanted therapy instead of the tablets, which I told him, I was throwing away. He got the hint and the therapist was first class, doing more in one session than that asshole had done in a year :o)
About those stationary meters, I noticed you used a Geiger counter. The only problem with that is how much of that activity picked up is Beta radiation on the ground which would create an artificially high microsievert reading. You really need to bring a Gamma survey meter that uses a PMT and only measures Gamma. It is possible the stationary meters are using a PMT not a Geiger counter and those readings would be more accurate.
True, Beta/Alpha is very dangerous if ingested or in lungs. But you measure that as CPM not as microsieverts. That measurement is for penetrating gamma radiation. That type of radiation penetrates your body and is dangerous even if you wear a a full tyvek suit and mask and you never ingest the particulates. So for gross radiation measurements, you use CPM. for gammas only you use siverts per hour.
The vets breaks my heart. Where’s the govt now that they need it’s help. They go and risk or give their lives for this country. They should be well taken care of.
Jarek was my rollerblading/ skating and bodybuilding buddy growing up. His mom passed away when he was young and she was best friends with my aunt, even after all these years.....it still bothers me.
It makes me wonder how many people walking in the street deal with forms of PTSD or depression. More often than not, you wouldn't notice it. The guy who lost his wife seemed so casual when they introduced him, but he was seriously broken down.
Had treatment for issues like this since my late teens. Got help. And by that I mean they medicated me. Same fucking prescriptions. Same chain of events. Then last year my mother died when I was in the room over, I cannot function with the things I've been through. Loss I've held in my arms. Health conditions. Being drugged, attacked, kicked on the street. Been in recovery a few times, once with some marines. Everyone is affected by what they've gone through so differently. It hurts. Honestly makes me fucking cry, to see those that are the best of us dealing with the worst. It is an unimaginably horrifying and inexplicable feeling to go through. You can go one moment thinking life is returning to normal and then on a hair-trigger have everything pulled out from underneath you. The medication does end up making the transition harder, and once you've been put through that ring of evaluation, it is damn hard to contemplate a sober life. Mainly because, when you're out of it, or if by some fucking miracle you're able to sleep, The nightmares and binges are things you are able to write off, dismiss and let go of. The memories aren't. And it's like a curse trying to become who you once were when the very same thing that makes you that person, haunts you day in and day out.
Japan is where the problem is, the Worlds country's that have nuclear programs and tech that could help should all be helping japan, and anywhere the is a accident there should be a global response team made up of the best and smartest people from the nuclear field from every nuclear capable country, because if there ever was a accident at a Canadian of USA or British Reactor that was real bad I'm sure we would like help from other country's. the problem is the nuclear industry knows the science and the facts, By the time the radioactive water makes it across the ocean and makes the 4 year trip how many half life's has the Cesium go through ? 2. meaning that only 1/4 the amount of radioactive cesium atoms will still be radioactive by the time they make the trip across the ocean. So did Chernobyl kill us all ? Did all the Nuclear testing above and under water kill us all or all the sea life ? NO. There was only 3 days of air bourn release of radiation on days 4 5 and 6 after the tsunami. since then contaminated radioactive water has been released from holding tanks into the ocean and has leached through the ground into the ground water and flowed into the sea. Radiation levels 168 times higher then Chernobyl ? what Isotope and on what day ? Chernobyl burned for how long ? when a reactor burns the heat and smoke carry the radiation into the atmosphere so with no fire at Fukushima and only a explosion from gas pressure build up then how could the continuous radiation release make it into the atmosphere or Jetstream ? it couldn't. A small amount would have made it high enough into the air to be carried and fall to earth but not that far away from the plant. Fukushima is a problem for Japan they will see the most effects from it. the usa and Canada seen very little radiation in the air after the accident and we are only able to detect it because we have very sensitive instruments that can detect it at trace amounts ! Bio- Accumulation will be a problem in any food from japan and will also accumulate in the sea food up the food chain as well, so don't eat the sea food its that simple. no loss for me I never Ate it thanks to all the oil spills, Garbage patch's, coexist and mercury lol of and don't forget all the toxic and nuclear waste that was dumped in the ocean in the before there were any regulations of any kind or any monitoring of it ! We cant act like the ocean was pristine and oh we just fucked it up, because we have done a lot worse to it !
Your idea is what everyone wants MrEddie but the problem is at the end of the day, when you invite some of the smartest people in the world into your country who should be helping, you could possibily be inviting spies who could be taking information that is worth something from your country. Reality is it all has to do with money man.
This is a fucking shame. These people put their lives on the line and that's what they get. If we can pay 100 billion to Israel 10 Billion to Pakistan 1.6billion a year to Egypt we can spend a fraction to help these hero's.
The Fukushima story is pretty damn terrifying. I had no idea it was that bad. Worse still, we have no real idea of just how much the Japanese government is covering up, so it's potentially even worse than what is being reported here.
Japan is notorious for trying to cover environmental catastrophes. Like in the 1950s, people in Minamata were getting sick because the chemical plant was dumping mercury into the sea, contaminating the fish. As a result, children were born with severe birth defects. The company denied everything until it was too late.
Thank you VICE for covering this. You're new on the scene and I''ve only seen a few of your vids but you seem to get after it! For you vets that had to deal with shit you didn't ever want to...you are loved. That was bad shit but you were doing your job at the time. Find your buddies, cry your hearts out, appreciate peace...tell the world how fucked up war is! I love you for seeing it through best you could!
People's of VICE really good to see some content that matters! Be consistent with content that truely matters because that's what vice is or don't show content at all. please thanks
I'm a civilian diagnosed with PTSD. I have long held that we need to cut our defense budget by a third or half and use that money for Healthcare. It's ridiculous that we spend so much money on defense when we are protected by two oceans on either side of us. There are countries landlocked with terrorists who spend far less than we do.
I think one of the major issues with what the VA seems to be doing here is that they aren't requiring pairing drugs WITH psychotherapy sessions. Drugs alone are a short term fix- there is a high relapse rate once the individual goes off the drug. If that drug is paired with psychotherapy then the relapse rate drops.
Thank you VICE for bringing this topics to my attention. I had no idea that the fukushima disaster had and still is having such terrible consequences and that they are covering it all up. I wish people would watch VICE instead of celebrity and sports news.
God Bless all our soldiers going thru this. Im a Civilian who wanted to join aswell serve our country. To that man that his wife left him. I know exactly what you mean my man i was on a 4 year relationship. Im on Meds aswell and i have that fear to start a relationship.
I was on all of these medications. Zoloft, seroquil, xanax (2mg 3x daily + 1mg kpin 3x daily) plus abilify and omeprazole (for stomach pains due to taking pills). I was on this from age 18-20. I went from an A student to barely finishing high school and dropped out of college after 4 weeks. When they decided to up my xanax and kpin dosage (to the size above), i was also put on thorazine and trizadone. I lost the ability to walk without a cane for 2 weeks until the doctors realized i was never scripted those in the first place (despite me telling them.... doctors will not listen to patients on these medications). Despite doctors orders, i stopped going to the doctors and weened myself off those medications. I am so lucky to be functioning right now. I'm back in university and am on the Dean's list and trying to finish my degree. The worst part was the people telling you these medications are good for you. They will kill you and destroy your body. I hope these veterans can get off these medications too, one day.
Cannabis is a natural and gentle treatment for P.T.S.D. This is only one of the ways free access to this plant will shift power from the State to the Individual.
So medicate them another way, you have the same answer as the VA. Do you not realize most of this is solved with counselling and therapy? Why hand them another drug when they could do it sober
SliC3oFicE I do believe in the value of honest counseling and therapy. Unfortunately, "Medicate another way" means the prescription of heavy psychotropic drugs that have "suicidal tendancies" as side-effects. My belief is that we should not sell the souls of our warriors to fill the profit coffers of big pharma. I believe we should use the best medication, and that happens to be cannabinoid medicine that directly treats and supports the body's endocannabinoid system, which is tasked with balance and homeostasis.
***** So you agree with the VA in principle, with medication. You would just as soon hand them a joint, before even trying therapy and counselling first. You would rather render them unable to work at a multitude of jobs due to the effects of weed just because you believe drugs will solve it? You, are no different then the pharmacies.
Poor Jarek he said it himself, unless you fix the underlying issues they just pop up, and they did, his cravings came back he fell in, overdosed and died. We saw him say that kind of like a message from the dead. Eerie.
22 vet suicides a day is w/ less than 50% of states reporting and leaves out large vet states like TX, CA, & IL. The really number is prob much closer to 50 Veteran suicides each day.
Before anyone finishes reading this comment, I want to make it clear that I am extremely grateful for the time served that each veteran has committed for our country, and that I fully support the cause for these vets. However, I do not understand what most of these people thought when they signed up for the military? I am guessing that many of them fell into the propaganda and bullshit that the recruiters spew. The recruiters will literally say anything for you to sign your life over to the military, and I can understand the appeal of their promises. These soldiers do not understand how war is TRULY hell, I don't think about 95 percent of them fully grasp how terrible the military can be. War is death, pain, violence, mental anguish, and all around suffering. You do not come back normal after experiencing these things. These are the types of things a human being CANNOT experience without being changed. If any animal is raised non-violent, once they perpetuate violence on a level that causes death, they are NEVER the same.
yeah those meds arent really that helpful and it just makes it worse. I have really bad anxiety and I do think about killing myself but I have to suck it up and try to ignore it and therapy helps me out a lot. . and so far im alive. yay.
at 6 minutes into the video they point out they were able to measure 3.5 μSv/h in the area, then they said that this 20 times higher than the near by government counter reading, they make it sound like it is an alarming dangerous radiation level , it really is not that much according to wikipedia : "24 mSv/a (2.7 μSv/h avg) Natural background radiation at airline cruise altitude"' Basically its the equivalent of flying in a plane, which is 10 times the really really small amount of radiation that you get from just existing on this planet at ground level (background radiation) they should give some perspective on what those readings mean, because just leaving it at "20 times higher than..." makes it sound alarmist.
Vice is doing good work. They have opened my eyes to so many issues I never knew about. I believe that soldiers shouldn't be looking for help in drugs, nor should the VA perpetuate their drug addictions. I was told by a man that sometimes the answers are not always within. To find the answer you must search outward. Getting help from psychiatrist, or even reading books can help tremendously. I personally read a lot of self help books that honestly when addressing an issue that I face on a daily basis open my eyes and help me see myself for who I really am. I recommend you pick a different book everyday and everyday try to learn something about yourself. Reading nonfiction books specifically can make you look inward as you search outward. My heart goes out to Soldiers across the world, the people in Japan who will have to deal with radiation for generations, and anyone anywhere who is dealing with personal dilemmas.
One of the only things Bush said that I agreed with is the dropping of D from PTS. Its not a disorder to show signs of PTS after facing some of the situations these heroes endured.
8yrs later and cannabis still isn’t federally legal, psychedelics are still illegal federally & most states, and above all else the rate of addiction has only skyrocketed as vets reach the end of VA support. Legalizing cannabis and psychedelics would allow targeted treatment that doesn’t result in withdrawals or severe side effects.
Pretty much all of the major nuclear disasters in history have been problems with the people who built and ran the nuclear reactors rather than with the technology of nuclear power itself. Nuclear power is a pretty amazing technology, and it is most likely the best way forward, however we have to be careful with it and not stand for gross negligence like in this situation.
Japanese people have such a strong sense of honor.The farmers father hung himself after unknowingly selling contaminated food for only 2 weeks.Then you look at American food corporations selling what I could only call poison.
These men and women fought for our country to be free and this is how we treat them they need help this world needs to get off its ass and do something
RIP to that man's father who took his own life, he must have had a heart of gold...
Actually it's quite common to commit suicide due to erm..'shame'
Maax Dee That was sad.
The liberator who destroys my property is fighting to save my spirit.
to be honest if i was him and i got an "OK" from the government i would sell the shit out of the poison crops, let alone kill myself because of shame and regret. that man was a true hero.
Maax Dee Or he just felt he brought shame.
Rip vets, no hero deserves this
Jarek was my childhood friend, watching this video hits me man. RIP buddy.
I feel very bad for the soldiers coming home they shouldn't have to go through that. :(
They don't tell you about that at the recruiting office .
Easily Offended sometimes they do, i was aware of what might happen when i signed, but signing made it possible for my ma to get the medical care she needed, so you weigh your choices and make heavy decisions, just like when they have you write up your recipients and %'s for your death gratuity, $100,000 is the value of my life apparently.
Baneraze Damn, if that was the case I might have done the same thing. But if that statistic in the video was true ("99% have PTSD to some degree") , then it should be more than just an "honorable mention" when they sign new recruits...hell just show them this 15 min video
They shouldn't have to go home. Soldiers should die in a battlefield.
MermanFromRus ... Now that's just fucking stupid. No really.
This is total BS. American servicemen and veterans need to be taken care of, not medicated into zombies. These men guarantee our freedom. The state of these veterans is unacceptable. We owe these heroes more.
it's unsettling for sure
I agree but nobody is going to listen to you
Every problem these days traces directly back to rich sociopaths, incompetent people failing at jobs they should be fired from, and greed for money.
God help us if Trump "wins" again. Dystopian future here we come.
I’m sorry Jarek. Sorry to all the veterans America has forgotten.
Yeah man.
My brother in law took his life 5 years ago after trying to get help for PTSD from his tours in Afghanistan. Never received help and now my 2 nephews are fatherless.
I have paranoid schizophrenia and these soldiers are on 10x more meds then me. I've been to the furthest reaches of insanity and back and I only take 1 medication. Some people need meds and they do work. The one soldier named off all of his meds and holy fuck thats a serious cocktail. No wonder why he's fucked up. He needs to taper them down slowly. I know from experience you can't just stop them all at once. Coming off that kind of cocktail can fuck your mind up until you get over taking the meds. That is some serious mind altering shit. No one should be on that many meds at once. His doctor should have his license taken away.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING! I'm a future Pharmacist and when he started listing off all the drugs he took I am totally shocked. Thats a LOOOOT of different meds for a lot of different conditions. It's no surprise they are mentally out of wack. Gabepentin,Welbutrin,zoloft,clonidine,atavan,vistiril? jesus
socialchronic I've tried a lot of meds in my day but not all at once. I've had homicidal and suicidal thoughts from coming off of antidepressants. I stay away from them all together. I've taken paxil prozac symbyax lexapro and zoloft. I just can't take ssri inhibitors. They throw my mind out of whack. I've also taken zyprexa saphris seroquel risperdal haldol thorazine klonopin xanax and ativan. Some meds I've tried willingly some meds I had forced on me in the hospital via injections. Coming off of major coctails of drugs can fuck your mind up more then before you initially took them. It can take a long time get over what some meds do. I never had auditory hallucinations until I quit taking risperdol. I had my first psychosis while coming off of risperdol. I've been on a single dose of zyprexa 15 mgs for 20 years. Every once in a while my doctor talks me into trying something new like saphris. It usually don't work out and I end up back on zyprexa.
I found that a mild pain killer called Tramadol does wonders for my depression. Moreover, it helps my back pain to be manageable, which is why I take it in the first place. =) 3-5 Tramadol a day, and I'm sorted. Back pain and depression are both mitigated rather effectively. While I am sure it is a low dose "opiate", it is not as dangerous and abuse prone as Vicodin, Oxy, or some of thee other more popular pain killers. I do wager it has an addictive potential though, most meds do on some level.
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tramadol is an snri i believe which would be why
I agree these damn pharmaceuticals are so dangerous and the doctors prescribing them aren't pharmacologist or chemical engineers doctors really don't understand pharmacology all they do is prescribe the drugs.. When something as simple as medicinal marijuana can do wonders when States start of additional marijuana program the suicides go down by 15 percent for women and 25 percent in men
VICE talks with veterans from Iraq and Afghanistan who are struggling with mental illness, addiction, and PTSD-often overprescribed narcotics and other pharmaceuticals that bring their own sets of problems.
Watch Episode 10 Debrief: bit.ly/19Md0CF
More episodes from Season 2: bit.ly/VICE-HBO-S2-E1
They choose to go to a country they have no business in.
Middleastbeast I agree with you, but you have to remember these people just want to protect their country and these soilders are not told everything by the government that is sending them there. I'm all for letting the middle East solve their own dam problems because we're the ones creating our own terrorists by helping any one over there. The US is absolutely responsible for the people that want to take us down and I can't blame them. The only way to fix it is to let them have their religious war and figure it out themselves. You however can't blame the people we send over there. Military training breaks individuals down until they become compliant and they are left in the dark as to the purpose of their deployment. Blame the gov not the solider. side note Bill Maher is the guy that had this thing down. They need to kill each other, we can't stop them from doing it and there is no reasoning with people that take religion to extremes. That goes for all religions, Christianity had to go through the same thing at one point. Personally the sooner religion is completely wiped out the better, it's the main thing that drives humanity apart and had NO place in modern society. All it does I get in the way of humanities progress.
How could you agree with what I said and say they're just defending their country they created all the enemies they have today by going to barbaric countries. They think by joining the military they are doing something right but do we really need to spend all our money on defense?
Middleastbeast no that's true we spend far too much on defense. It's an astronomical amount of money that could be very well spent elsewhere, not to mention the black budgets. Yea people make the choice to join the military but the media is the one providing that misinformation to the people that sign up for the military. People don't have a deep understanding of this because the correct information is not readily available. They are told it's protecting you and me and in some ways it is, but it's doing far more damage than good. You can't blame the men and women that sign up for this fight, when they are misinformed add to why they are even going over there. I greatly feel for the men and women that do this, because they do it for me and you, it's not a just cause nor is it right we are over there. But I do not blame the people who serve. I really equate it to the drug war. The people that still believe that policing drugs and criminalizing small time offenders are misinformed. For years they were told about the evils of drugs and they waged a war on something they could never beat. We throw billions at this cause that is only perpetuated by media that tells people drugs are some evil entity that needs to be eradicated. When really we could tax it provide treatment, and do seat with the wine laws and overcrowded jails because some kid had a gram of weed on him. Unjust cause, perpetuated by media, and then fought out by people just going what they are told.
thats what happen when you serve your country for the wrong reasons
Both of these situations are absolutely unacceptable. How can we help the people involved?
I think there is great opportunity for entrepreneurial minds to help fix these issues. We just need to take our minds off the latest smart watch for one second to see that there are bigger problems to solve.
I agree. Our most troubling task will be to get people to look up out of their phones and ACTUALLY engage reality.
But the majority of technology engineers, scientists etc. ARE thinking about solving those problems, you're just not going to be sold it or see it on TV or advertising billboards. There just isn't a viable theory for the former, the latter is just bad practice.
The teacher who clears all possessions from my path will set me free.
Darc Gibson That's why I mentioned entrepreneurship instead.
No doubt research is on the case, I just think it's too slow at the moment.
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www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/09/110906144558.htm
This episode hurt me to the bone... What the day about vets is so true..
First never blame these brave men and women, they were physically/mentally strong and completed many difficult tasks, which qualified them as our military people. In order to get them to respond the way our military demanded their emotional systems were replaced with physical automated responses. However, these are living breathing humans, that will respond to such structuring and training. When the military is done with them they are cast away like broken down machinery. These people, if left without resources will have all of the emotions that were suppressed come flooding back. Yes their physical missions have been completed; but eventually the mind will demand to be recognized. If they are denied immediate mental health attention (first 90 days) they will struggle a life time. It is not appropriate to ask them at the end of their military days if these issues exist, as their goals are to get away from such a career that has damaged them. The best method would be to let them process out, and then have a meeting with them, a doctor, and a true advocate for these military men or women. This physical/mental health exam should be done within the first 21 days of discharge. The discharge exam should in NO WAY be viewed as punitive and must have be collaborative in nature. After the exam a follow up care provision shall be implemented and signed off by all three 1) the Attending Doctor, 2) The patient (the discharged), 3) the Hand Selected Advocate.
James C Elson Jr nice post and very very true in fact.Being demilterized is life changing as much as being milterized except you get training to become this day in and day out.When your time is done there is no training to return to society.You still sleep eat. work with the same mentallity for a very long time.Thank you.
ugh... this unacceptable!! these peoples deserve more!! its heartbreaking!
The worst thing about all this, and most matters like this, is that nothing is done about it. These problems still plague us. Many of these comments are from people who are outraged, and most people who watch the video have similar feelings. The problem is few people actually care. We could fix so many problems in the world if we just all came together and tried to fix them. Unfortunately, I, like many people, will just continue with my life and most likely completely forget most of this by the time I wake up tomorrow morning.
Vice is the best. Wouldn't see stuff like this in any mainstream news.
Thank you vice for revealing information to us. Keep up your great journalism
Very good show, especially with the treatment of the American Vets. I had ptsd with the Royal Air Force, and I had a similar experience, they just wanted you to take tablets and get on with it. Problem is that depression is like a tree and tablets only kill the leaves, you need therapy to understand it and dig out the roots, come to terms with what is troubling you. I actually got to the point where I made a direct threat of violence against a senior officer in the medical service to prove the point that I wanted therapy instead of the tablets, which I told him, I was throwing away. He got the hint and the therapist was first class, doing more in one session than that asshole had done in a year :o)
Rest in peace Jared
This is how we treat veterans? What kind of society is this? How can any society cover this up and shove it under the rug like this
About those stationary meters, I noticed you used a Geiger counter. The only problem with that is how much of that activity picked up is Beta radiation on the ground which would create an artificially high microsievert reading. You really need to bring a Gamma survey meter that uses a PMT and only measures Gamma. It is possible the stationary meters are using a PMT not a Geiger counter and those readings would be more accurate.
***** Trying to understand why you used a comma, is like digging trench with a spoon.
Gamma = gimel = camel
He wants a higher reading - it makes a better story. So he puts a Geiger counter on a drain pipe to get it...
True, Beta/Alpha is very dangerous if ingested or in lungs. But you measure that as CPM not as microsieverts. That measurement is for penetrating gamma radiation. That type of radiation penetrates your body and is dangerous even if you wear a a full tyvek suit and mask and you never ingest the particulates.
So for gross radiation measurements, you use CPM. for gammas only you use siverts per hour.
***** Depends on the size of the spoon
God bless these poor vets
The vets breaks my heart. Where’s the govt now that they need it’s help. They go and risk or give their lives for this country. They should be well taken care of.
r.i.p. jarek. thank you for your service and sorry for our dis-service
Just waiting for Mothra to fly out of the Fukushima power plant....
RIP Jarek . The struggle is REAL
Jarek was my rollerblading/ skating and bodybuilding buddy growing up. His mom passed away when he was young and she was best friends with my aunt, even after all these years.....it still bothers me.
I suffer with PTSD and I can a test that phyc meds is the VA answer to everything.
It makes me wonder how many people walking in the street deal with forms of PTSD or depression. More often than not, you wouldn't notice it. The guy who lost his wife seemed so casual when they introduced him, but he was seriously broken down.
RIP Jarek
Maybe if me called it shell shock, some of those vets would have gotten help....
Had treatment for issues like this since my late teens. Got help. And by that I mean they medicated me. Same fucking prescriptions. Same chain of events. Then last year my mother died when I was in the room over, I cannot function with the things I've been through. Loss I've held in my arms. Health conditions. Being drugged, attacked, kicked on the street. Been in recovery a few times, once with some marines. Everyone is affected by what they've gone through so differently. It hurts.
Honestly makes me fucking cry, to see those that are the best of us dealing with the worst. It is an unimaginably horrifying and inexplicable feeling to go through. You can go one moment thinking life is returning to normal and then on a hair-trigger have everything pulled out from underneath you. The medication does end up making the transition harder, and once you've been put through that ring of evaluation, it is damn hard to contemplate a sober life. Mainly because, when you're out of it, or if by some fucking miracle you're able to sleep, The nightmares and binges are things you are able to write off, dismiss and let go of. The memories aren't. And it's like a curse trying to become who you once were when the very same thing that makes you that person, haunts you day in and day out.
Japan is where the problem is, the Worlds country's that have nuclear programs and tech that could help should all be helping japan, and anywhere the is a accident there should be a global response team made up of the best and smartest people from the nuclear field from every nuclear capable country, because if there ever was a accident at a Canadian of USA or British Reactor that was real bad I'm sure we would like help from other country's. the problem is the nuclear industry knows the science and the facts, By the time the radioactive water makes it across the ocean and makes the 4 year trip how many half life's has the Cesium go through ? 2. meaning that only 1/4 the amount of radioactive cesium atoms will still be radioactive by the time they make the trip across the ocean. So did Chernobyl kill us all ? Did all the Nuclear testing above and under water kill us all or all the sea life ? NO. There was only 3 days of air bourn release of radiation on days 4 5 and 6 after the tsunami. since then contaminated radioactive water has been released from holding tanks into the ocean and has leached through the ground into the ground water and flowed into the sea. Radiation levels 168 times higher then Chernobyl ? what Isotope and on what day ? Chernobyl burned for how long ? when a reactor burns the heat and smoke carry the radiation into the atmosphere so with no fire at Fukushima and only a explosion from gas pressure build up then how could the continuous radiation release make it into the atmosphere or Jetstream ? it couldn't. A small amount would have made it high enough into the air to be carried and fall to earth but not that far away from the plant. Fukushima is a problem for Japan they will see the most effects from it. the usa and Canada seen very little radiation in the air after the accident and we are only able to detect it because we have very sensitive instruments that can detect it at trace amounts ! Bio- Accumulation will be a problem in any food from japan and will also accumulate in the sea food up the food chain as well, so don't eat the sea food its that simple. no loss for me I never Ate it thanks to all the oil spills, Garbage patch's, coexist and mercury lol of and don't forget all the toxic and nuclear waste that was dumped in the ocean in the before there were any regulations of any kind or any monitoring of it ! We cant act like the ocean was pristine and oh we just fucked it up, because we have done a lot worse to it !
Go write a book m8
Bob Niven He did...
And where can i find it?
Bob Niven Above you..
Your idea is what everyone wants MrEddie but the problem is at the end of the day, when you invite some of the smartest people in the world into your country who should be helping, you could possibily be inviting spies who could be taking information that is worth something from your country. Reality is it all has to do with money man.
man this episode was a tough one to watch thanks vice
Rip Jarek .. miss u bro .. thinking about u
This is a fucking shame. These people put their lives on the line and that's what they get. If we can pay 100 billion to Israel 10 Billion to Pakistan 1.6billion a year to Egypt we can spend a fraction to help these hero's.
Honestly thyroid cancer is one of the easiest to treat my brother had it it was gone within a month
The Fukushima story is pretty damn terrifying. I had no idea it was that bad. Worse still, we have no real idea of just how much the Japanese government is covering up, so it's potentially even worse than what is being reported here.
Japan is notorious for trying to cover environmental catastrophes. Like in the 1950s, people in Minamata were getting sick because the chemical plant was dumping mercury into the sea, contaminating the fish. As a result, children were born with severe birth defects. The company denied everything until it was too late.
Thank you VICE for covering this. You're new on the scene and I''ve only seen a few of your vids but you seem to get after it!
For you vets that had to deal with shit you didn't ever want to...you are loved. That was bad shit but you were doing your job at the time. Find your buddies, cry your hearts out, appreciate peace...tell the world how fucked up war is! I love you for seeing it through best you could!
People's of VICE really good to see some content that matters! Be consistent with content that truely matters because that's what vice is or don't show content at all. please thanks
I'm a civilian diagnosed with PTSD. I have long held that we need to cut our defense budget by a third or half and use that money for Healthcare. It's ridiculous that we spend so much money on defense when we are protected by two oceans on either side of us. There are countries landlocked with terrorists who spend far less than we do.
I think one of the major issues with what the VA seems to be doing here is that they aren't requiring pairing drugs WITH psychotherapy sessions. Drugs alone are a short term fix- there is a high relapse rate once the individual goes off the drug. If that drug is paired with psychotherapy then the relapse rate drops.
This Documtation was awesome
drugs CAN help but NOT in the wrong situation and also drugs CAN NOT LOVE a person. LOVE is what these heros NEED from us!
After every episode I involuntarily say "Fuck...man..." Keep it rollin Vice
Thank you VICE for bringing this topics to my attention. I had no idea that the fukushima disaster had and still is having such terrible consequences and that they are covering it all up. I wish people would watch VICE instead of celebrity and sports news.
God Bless all our soldiers going thru this. Im a Civilian who wanted to join aswell serve our country. To that man that his wife left him. I know exactly what you mean my man i was on a 4 year relationship. Im on Meds aswell and i have that fear to start a relationship.
RIP Mr. Kino.
vice needs to interview a geiger counter expert and explain if it is normal for radiation levels to vary soo drastically over such a short distance.
R.I.P Mr. Terakawa(?) (Farmer's Father) and R.I.P. Jarek
I was on all of these medications. Zoloft, seroquil, xanax (2mg 3x daily + 1mg kpin 3x daily) plus abilify and omeprazole (for stomach pains due to taking pills). I was on this from age 18-20. I went from an A student to barely finishing high school and dropped out of college after 4 weeks. When they decided to up my xanax and kpin dosage (to the size above), i was also put on thorazine and trizadone. I lost the ability to walk without a cane for 2 weeks until the doctors realized i was never scripted those in the first place (despite me telling them.... doctors will not listen to patients on these medications). Despite doctors orders, i stopped going to the doctors and weened myself off those medications. I am so lucky to be functioning right now. I'm back in university and am on the Dean's list and trying to finish my degree. The worst part was the people telling you these medications are good for you. They will kill you and destroy your body. I hope these veterans can get off these medications too, one day.
RIP Jerek.
11:44
TEPCO: We believe that releasing information is important
VICE: asks for information
TEPCO: aight ima head out
Thank you VICE
Cannabis is a natural and gentle treatment for P.T.S.D. This is only one of the ways free access to this plant will shift power from the State to the Individual.
oh, well thank you doctor greenthumb. it's so much harder to find pot than heroin nowadays right?
Nix4Ever
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So medicate them another way, you have the same answer as the VA. Do you not realize most of this is solved with counselling and therapy? Why hand them another drug when they could do it sober
SliC3oFicE
I do believe in the value of honest counseling and therapy. Unfortunately, "Medicate another way" means the prescription of heavy psychotropic drugs that have "suicidal tendancies" as side-effects. My belief is that we should not sell the souls of our warriors to fill the profit coffers of big pharma. I believe we should use the best medication, and that happens to be cannabinoid medicine that directly treats and supports the body's endocannabinoid system, which is tasked with balance and homeostasis.
***** So you agree with the VA in principle, with medication. You would just as soon hand them a joint, before even trying therapy and counselling first. You would rather render them unable to work at a multitude of jobs due to the effects of weed just because you believe drugs will solve it?
You, are no different then the pharmacies.
>Nuclear waste
>Japan
umm....Godzilla? Better start building giant mechs.
Poor Jarek he said it himself, unless you fix the underlying issues they just pop up, and they did, his cravings came back he fell in, overdosed and died. We saw him say that kind of like a message from the dead. Eerie.
22 vet suicides a day is w/ less than 50% of states reporting and leaves out large vet states like TX, CA, & IL. The really number is prob much closer to 50 Veteran suicides each day.
"The Hills Have Eyes" in Japan!
Thanks for showing us the truth vice
Before anyone finishes reading this comment, I want to make it clear that I am extremely grateful for the time served that each veteran has committed for our country, and that I fully support the cause for these vets. However, I do not understand what most of these people thought when they signed up for the military? I am guessing that many of them fell into the propaganda and bullshit that the recruiters spew. The recruiters will literally say anything for you to sign your life over to the military, and I can understand the appeal of their promises. These soldiers do not understand how war is TRULY hell, I don't think about 95 percent of them fully grasp how terrible the military can be. War is death, pain, violence, mental anguish, and all around suffering. You do not come back normal after experiencing these things. These are the types of things a human being CANNOT experience without being changed. If any animal is raised non-violent, once they perpetuate violence on a level that causes death, they are NEVER the same.
r.i.p to the vet that overdosed...
The honor suicide made me cry.
Omg this poor farmer!!
8th generation? That’s incredible.
I feel terrible about his father and what guilt will do
RIP Jarek
"No man left behind" that is until they get home.
"we believe releasing information is of the utmost importance". which is why im standing here not releasing any information to you.
I need an update! How have i never hurd anything about this?
VICE!
You should put a tagline- ''Opening eyes''
If you put abbreviations on it it's not so bad...⛷️🤺
probably the saddest episode ever
yeah those meds arent really that helpful and it just makes it worse. I have really bad anxiety and I do think about killing myself but I have to suck it up and try to ignore it and therapy helps me out a lot. . and so far im alive. yay.
You doing good 3 years later?
Always actual always spot on target subject always fresh , thank you Vice folks ++ and thumbs up
at 6 minutes into the video they point out they were able to measure 3.5 μSv/h in the area, then they said that this 20 times higher than the near by government counter reading, they make it sound like it is an alarming dangerous radiation level , it really is not that much according to wikipedia : "24 mSv/a (2.7 μSv/h avg) Natural background radiation at airline cruise altitude"'
Basically its the equivalent of flying in a plane, which is 10 times the really really small amount of radiation that you get from just existing on this planet at ground level (background radiation) they should give some perspective on what those readings mean, because just leaving it at "20 times higher than..." makes it sound alarmist.
Maybe the counters are calibrated to compensate for background radiation... And people tend to spend WAY more time on solid ground than on an airplane
It took the VA until 2017 to admit my best friend had received brain damage from an IED attack in Iraq that happened in 2003.
Vice is doing good work. They have opened my eyes to so many issues I never knew about. I believe that soldiers shouldn't be looking for help in drugs, nor should the VA perpetuate their drug addictions. I was told by a man that sometimes the answers are not always within. To find the answer you must search outward. Getting help from psychiatrist, or even reading books can help tremendously. I personally read a lot of self help books that honestly when addressing an issue that I face on a daily basis open my eyes and help me see myself for who I really am. I recommend you pick a different book everyday and everyday try to learn something about yourself. Reading nonfiction books specifically can make you look inward as you search outward. My heart goes out to Soldiers across the world, the people in Japan who will have to deal with radiation for generations, and anyone anywhere who is dealing with personal dilemmas.
I love Vice! Awesome episode!
Fail hand pocketing at 3:00
the vets part makes me want to take the drugs away from so bad
OMG!!!! No amount of energy is worth this destruction.
This country should have to take responsibility for what they are doing to this world we all live in.
One of the only things Bush said that I agreed with is the dropping of D from PTS. Its not a disorder to show signs of PTS after facing some of the situations these heroes endured.
8yrs later and cannabis still isn’t federally legal, psychedelics are still illegal federally & most states, and above all else the rate of addiction has only skyrocketed as vets reach the end of VA support. Legalizing cannabis and psychedelics would allow targeted treatment that doesn’t result in withdrawals or severe side effects.
RIP Jarek Camac
The feels.
i was supposed to go the VA her in phoenix and 3 months later they never got back to me. but i smoke good weed.. ill be ok
Damn. That vets wife left him during his transition to civilian life. Rough.
Pretty much all of the major nuclear disasters in history have been problems with the people who built and ran the nuclear reactors rather than with the technology of nuclear power itself. Nuclear power is a pretty amazing technology, and it is most likely the best way forward, however we have to be careful with it and not stand for gross negligence like in this situation.
Mr. Kino must have been paid quite a lot for him to go to Daiichi facility without any protective gear.
The old media refuses to talk about Fukushima and the consequences imperialism.
What does imperialism have to do with Fukushima or are you combining the 2 stories?
Japanese people have such a strong sense of honor.The farmers father hung himself after unknowingly selling contaminated food for only 2 weeks.Then you look at American food corporations selling what I could only call poison.
Cannabis and psylocybe helped me get through PTSD. And a dog.
Y’all need to stop disabling comments on your videos silencing people
vuce some best news in the world
I'm saddened by this :(
These men and women fought for our country to be free and this is how we treat them they need help this world needs to get off its ass and do something
R.I.P
Small amounts of MDMA with therapy have shown great promise in treating PTSD
that butterfly close up tho :(