Sheik Optimized Throw Combos

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  • @Space_Australian
    @Space_Australian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The slow-mo "I never learned how to read" gave me life

  • @MetaTrixx
    @MetaTrixx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Very well done as always dude 👍

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Meta Of Smash Thank you so much ❤️😊

  • @XxSaNchitoxX
    @XxSaNchitoxX 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Amazing content as always, best video so far imo. I feel like repeating myselft too much with my coments but duude seriously, my Sheik is improving a lot, and thats all thanks to you and the passion you put into all these videos. Thank you so so much, i really mean it 💕

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I swear, I love to see you in my comments, and I’m blessed to hear that these kinds of Videos really help you out ❤️ Thank you for making my days a Little better!

  • @averagejoe3099
    @averagejoe3099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:44 can I just say pit dying in slo mo is funniest thing ever🤣

  • @tyb3r695
    @tyb3r695 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I was actually playing sheik right now perfect timing
    I was practicing his loop

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tyberious Pauldo Haha, good thing that this video was here 😊

    • @Ari.1460
      @Ari.1460 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      *his* loop
      oh god who's gonna tell him

    • @tyb3r695
      @tyb3r695 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Snuuuz yes? I I think?

    • @tyb3r695
      @tyb3r695 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Snuuuz yeah but what that magic do tho
      The transformation should be complete by now

    • @andrew3606
      @andrew3606 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ari.1460 shh no spoilers

  • @biandanxious3438
    @biandanxious3438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank God you made this video.
    I had no idea what to do with grab.

  • @djnth0llmnjeremygan694
    @djnth0llmnjeremygan694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Djnth0llmn from Snake Discord here! My friend is picking Sheik up again, this time as a secondary. I'm going to share this to him!

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jeremy Gan Heh Djnth0llmn!! Long time no see, hope your Friend has a blast with Sheik, tell him I said good luck and Wish both you and him all the best ❤️

  • @xelectrix_1863
    @xelectrix_1863 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been playing sheik on and off ever since ultimate came out. She's my favorite character to play but she felt very unrewarding and had to do way more work than other characters to get the same percent. After seeing your videos I've been feeling her all over again. Thanks Man!

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree but if you look at the combos not only off of grabs and she can get combos going so far like even fair short hop loops to carry off stage is impressive and it does enough damage to even out

  • @Tone_TC
    @Tone_TC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This may be the best video in the channel

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      colin titouan Thank you so much, I appreciate this so incredibly much 💞

  • @aisu_j5
    @aisu_j5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    4:36 the moment frenzy discovered updraft ahead of time

  • @sebastienlacombe3490
    @sebastienlacombe3490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Continue like this, your videos are well done!

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sébastien Lacombe Thank you dude ❤️ Means the world to me 💞

  • @azurecerulean1279
    @azurecerulean1279 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is like one of the best smash channels. How did I not know about this earlier

  • @neyun
    @neyun 5 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    bruh this character for me is unusable online but landing her combos are satisfying af

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      neyun Exactly, literally shitty Character online, but pick her anyways haha

    • @techno--
      @techno-- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I always get the opponent to 130 then die before them

    • @matthewmorrison3745
      @matthewmorrison3745 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@techno-- Gotta get your edge guarding up, that's what I'm working on since almost everyone in this game has a good recovery

    • @techno--
      @techno-- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@matthewmorrison3745 that's how i get the majority of my kills, i just find it annoying sometimes cuz sheik has no strong forward facing aerials like joker

    • @wlt3585
      @wlt3585 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@techno-- develop turning her to create a bair right before jumping

  • @vaativanna414
    @vaativanna414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woo! New frenzy light video!

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vaati Vanna You’re so sweet ❤️

  • @Nier222
    @Nier222 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro thank you so much for the video you are my inspiration to master my sheik, keep going!!! :D

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This Comment really Made me smile! Thank you ❤️

  • @assada5297
    @assada5297 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:40
    I feel you pit... I feel you

    • @gluessb
      @gluessb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4:49

  • @yaboiuzichiha8366
    @yaboiuzichiha8366 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should upload ranked matches. great vid btw

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yaboi uzichiha Thank you so much ❤️ Going to try and make a Montage soon

    • @yaboiuzichiha8366
      @yaboiuzichiha8366 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FrenzyLight what subscriber matches too?

  • @lp.tsiaou3561
    @lp.tsiaou3561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was labing a 60 percent combo. If you teact to their di it's true and I feel it can push sheik's meta. Fair, dthrow, up air down, fthrow, fullhop(charded)needls, up air, fthrow, bfish

  • @sakuragi9785
    @sakuragi9785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your guides
    Hope one day i can jse sheik in a decent level TwT

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Negro Meme Thank you, and me Too! VOID is already doing great

  • @isaiahestremera4762
    @isaiahestremera4762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this so much!

  • @berk8513
    @berk8513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i’ve recently experimented with sheik and a good mix up is to condition ur opponent to shield when u jump at them and then jump in front of them and throw out side b so the bomb lands behind them and down tilt for a kill 100-ish percent

    • @michael6636d6
      @michael6636d6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why exactly is that good. Grenade is horrible in neutral usually, it’s way too laggy. It’s most useful when setting up for ledgetrapping, and edgeguarding. There are better options you could do in that situation

    • @berk8513
      @berk8513 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michael6636d6 my brother I made that comment years ago when I’d only been playing smash for a few months lmao

    • @michael6636d6
      @michael6636d6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@berk8513 makes sense

  • @andreslarrea2230
    @andreslarrea2230 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn, sheik is so cool

  • @Feather3
    @Feather3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heads up in some combos your notations say Fthrow when you Dthrow in the clip (2:35).

  • @wlt3585
    @wlt3585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It isnt true but Back throw to double jump bfish has worked reliably well for me, at mid to high percents. Its a good use at ledge

  • @drin2334
    @drin2334 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:36 and 2:40 are dthrow, not fthrow 🤙

  • @ssbunerd3012
    @ssbunerd3012 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:39 Who does this work on? I rly want to master this combo, it looks hype. Also, hi from a fellow sheik player

  • @dragoni1873
    @dragoni1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have to fastfall in the sheik loop? Because O did it without fastfalling and just delayed the up air a little bit so sheik would hit the ground before the last hit but I’m not sure if it is still true

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to fast fall, and if you need a Little more in depth guide on the topic, link is in the description

    • @dragoni1873
      @dragoni1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks

  • @d3flash453
    @d3flash453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the needles to bouncing fish do you use the short down b or long one???

    • @michael6636d6
      @michael6636d6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on their percent and di

  • @nickbreaux2635
    @nickbreaux2635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish you could explain the angle that i need to tilt my analog stick in order to land f throw -> bfish

  • @spaghettidrugs907
    @spaghettidrugs907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok seriously i never get shiek’s spike hitbox. Everytime i hit someone with dair they don’t go down and I die

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The hitbox is only at the very start, so you have to hit them when They are literally Either inside you or when they’re at your feet, otherwise They just Get hit away

    • @spaghettidrugs907
      @spaghettidrugs907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The way the made her spike is weird as fuck but thanks.

    • @michael6636d6
      @michael6636d6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spaghettidrugs907 that’s how a lot of falling spikes are. You have to actually time the move to get the spike

  • @SeveN_7812_
    @SeveN_7812_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been enlightened....

  • @jacobpan2604
    @jacobpan2604 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    for fthrow bouncing fish do you hav to angle the bouncing fish I always miss

  • @dinadeira
    @dinadeira 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:52 I do not understand how to buffer the needles and jump. it always ends up with me doing needles on the ground or just jumping and doing needles at the top. any help?

    • @michael6636d6
      @michael6636d6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s all about timing. F throw > dash forward > jump > needles. I kind of do a sliding motion with my finger so I quickly hit the y button and then slide down on the b button so I can do a full hop rising needles as quick as possible. If you press the jump very quickly during this sliding motion, you can also get an instant shorthop rising needles, which is useful for other combos.

  • @pedrogoncalves4585
    @pedrogoncalves4585 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why can people get out of my combos easily?

    • @GodfreyEnjoyer1
      @GodfreyEnjoyer1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      because she has no combos. Depends on DI. If u play against someone who is shit you can "combo" him a´hard.Good players can react very fast. There is a reason why most sheik mains drop her. Almost no combos, extreme low damage, cant kill.

  • @guzel9823
    @guzel9823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:45 but you can punish that with a regrab (the DI away + airdodge)

    • @tobiaszeller4323
      @tobiaszeller4323 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nuetral airdodge?

    • @guzel9823
      @guzel9823 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tobiaszeller4323 might be an option but I didn't test that but in game I allways got the punish on the directional airdodge mabye some of these were neutral airdodges. I don't know

  • @Matthew.Morcos
    @Matthew.Morcos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Ill stick with f throw boincing fish at 0 for my enitre throw combo game, but thanks

  • @silentcar9353
    @silentcar9353 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t know how I play sheik and do long chain combos... but I do it haha

  • @-zod-4882
    @-zod-4882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does f tlit grab still work in ultimate?

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eclipsed Soul Yes 😊🙏

    • @-zod-4882
      @-zod-4882 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that cheers my soul that is still a thing.😁👌

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eclipsed Soul haha, well it does to me too

  • @Akzo2Gama
    @Akzo2Gama 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:40 it's Bthrow i think and not fthrow

  • @spaghettidrugs907
    @spaghettidrugs907 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:42 would it work if I put Bouncing fish at the end instead of bair?

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mad Sadly isn’t true, safer to go for Bair

  • @nimblen8
    @nimblen8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is ftilt to dash grab true cuz I usually only go for it when I know they mash airdogde.
    Amazing as well it was well worth it

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nathan Victoriano That is true 😊

  • @garylum1686
    @garylum1686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you buffer the needles from the full hop?

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out my «Needle tech» video!

    • @garylum1686
      @garylum1686 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frenzy Light siiick thanks my dude

  • @spaghettidrugs907
    @spaghettidrugs907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    BUT HOW DO WE KNOW YOU’VE BEEN ACTUALLY MAINING SHEIK FOR 10 YEARS AND YOU’RE NOT LYING

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mad I don’t know How to prove it to you, it’s not documented that far back, you’ll just have to Trust me, but that’ll be on you really.

    • @spaghettidrugs907
      @spaghettidrugs907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      K i trust you

  • @elliotbuera6891
    @elliotbuera6891 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sheik has a hard time racking up damage🤪

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      •_••_• yeah... no xD

    • @thejoshh5706
      @thejoshh5706 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      •_••_• It be nice if Sheik can do more damage when she has her needles charged

  • @hootels1770
    @hootels1770 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool combos for 40% that you can’t use after 55%

  • @xMaRVeL39
    @xMaRVeL39 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn can't get the needles to connect after f-throw

  • @Tone_TC
    @Tone_TC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Today’s video is sponsored by raid shadow legend
    Maybe not...

    • @FrenzyLight
      @FrenzyLight  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      colin titouan Sadly not sponsored ):

  • @hida7962
    @hida7962 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    just want to verify - a lot of the needles stuff isn't true right

  • @greysonshartzer4362
    @greysonshartzer4362 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:38 it says fthrow it should be dthrow

  • @azurecerulean1279
    @azurecerulean1279 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:41. This is d throw. Not f throw

  • @AFancyDress
    @AFancyDress 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why are none of these tested with di? :/

    • @AFancyDress
      @AFancyDress 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@snuuuz fthrow to usmash is nowhere near true with di

    • @sd-king2916
      @sd-king2916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right except they don’t.
      The basis for 90% of these combos is Fthrow > fair. Which is not a true combo unless they are like below ten or something. You can just DI it. So almost none of these are true combos and only work if your opponent misses their DI.

  • @sd-king2916
    @sd-king2916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I dont think really any of these are true. Fthrow > Fair isn’t a true combo if your opponent DIs.
    Great quality video though i appreciate the effort. It’s just that these will only work against noobs. And can only work against good players if they screw up and miss their DI.

    • @brachmindunsparce6044
      @brachmindunsparce6044 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DI can be read and chased. Shiek can be optimized to punish DI out so she can condition for DI in.

    • @sd-king2916
      @sd-king2916 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brachmin Dunsparce
      I definatly have trouble punishing DI out. Could you offer any suggestions/tips for chasing DI out on throws?

    • @brachmindunsparce6044
      @brachmindunsparce6044 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sd-king2916 I'm not too much of a shiek expert, but getting in a position where di out = landing on a platform helps a lot. If you have a second controller to di out with, lab out the the percents and distances for landing on platforms with fthrow, or ask sheikcords for answers because they probably have some info.

  • @NinjaGamer820
    @NinjaGamer820 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure fthrow > bfish is not true at all lmao

    • @michael6636d6
      @michael6636d6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is. It is a very beginner level sheik true combo that starts working at 0. Doesn’t come up as true on the combo counter until a percent like 20 or something, but it is completely true even at 0. The combo counter is accurate sometimes, but sometimes it isn’t