45nm of torque is pretty low, in my neck of the woods it wouldn't work at all (1 in 3 hills everywhere). I have a riese and mueller supercharger 85nm torque on the bosch motor, nothing less will suffice.
Another great video thank you. When you’re describing an ebike’s performance uphill, would it be possible to show a quick graphic of the gradient of the hill, to give us an idea of how steep it is? Just a thought - thanks again.
As an urban e cyclist here in Spain, I find the price hard to justify. It’s too big for compact cities like Madrid and I would imagine Paris. Having to haul this thing up and down the stairs will be quite a struggle. For urban setting, there are other brands such as Freeel in Spain that offers a lower range but sufficient for most type of bikes. There are quite a few bike subscription in Spain and a lot of people who work food delivery or moms that want to do drop offs and pick ups tend to rent them so they’re pretty popular. Their advantage is that as long as you lock them up as instructed, you only pay a 30€ paperwork fee if they get stolen. That can be quite attractive when you’re delivering food, having to run up and down stairs quickly and just wanting to lock the bike up against a tree for a few minutes.
Great video, £3k is too much for any ebike, subscription sounds fun. Depends, of course, bit like Microsoft office... always on your budget, cos you pay monthly. Not sure about the "take battery and pay nothing if stolen" it could be a recipe for people not to lock it up. More like this, please.
@@ThomasMTube The Ado A20 is better because it has 7 gears, it also has front suspension and rear saddle tube shock absorber. The A20 can be unrestricted to 20mph and it has an optional throttle. Also don't be fooled by the display attached to the bike in this video. That is her own mobile that she has attached to the ebike to make you think it has a display. It actually has no display at all. The A20 does have one, of course. So you can see how misleading this video is. This channel is a joke. They are just making ads and misleading ads at that.
@@dtz1000 the ado bike looks and is cheap and cheerful. I would say it has more features (gears, throttle etc) but this bike is a simplistic design, single speed belt drive full size commuter. This does look to have a bit higher quality, but maybe not 3x the price better.
I got a VanMoof last year on a cycle to work scheme to make it more affordable. I think that method is better than a subscription due to the tax savings. Anyway another great video electroheads :) I've just made a video comparing the Vanmoof S3 and X3. I loved the Vanmoof so much I bought two of them!
Looks great. My local bike shop had a Vanmoof in the shop with an issue and he couldn't work on it, it's proprietary to the point he couldn't readily replace the parts. Not sure how proprietary the Vassla is to be fair. A subscription might help alleviate that but you really need some centers that are not in another country to facilitate that level of support, if your bike shop is locked out from fixing/repairing them. Very nice looker for sure though I'm very jealous of the cycling infrastructure over there!
Completely agree - Vassla are keen to expand but obviously would only do so when able to satisfy the quality of service! It's a great bike, and really think they would offer a great option for riders around the world. And YES! The cycle lanes were great, hope London can take a leaf out of their book, we'd all benefit greatly from investment in proper cycle lanes and networks.
Hi Simon - agreed, we love the subscription idea. However, pricing isn't finalised just yet so it wasn't included. This is an early doors preview! For context, Vassla's Bike (that's it's name, but it's more like a tiny moped) was offered in Paris for: - €79 per month for a six-month plan - €49 per month without a subscription
45nm from a 250w motor being "the torquiest" is borderline false advertising. 250w mid drive motors can produce even up to 85nm, which is something everyone who knows a thing or two about ebikes knows very well. Being a serious website/store/channel specializing in electric mobility, saying stuff like this is unprofessional and just sad. Sponsored reviews are not something bad, but being objectively false about something you specialize and promote, is. Anyway, keep up the great work and the nice reviews. Its not very common to find such good production level on this kind of content.
Hmm, I like it. I’m also kind of interested in one of the moped things I saw.. Have you ever cycled in the Netherlands? Try it. It’s probably the cycle standard, especially in the big cities..
@@Electroheads I’ve cycled in multiple countries, which DID make me appreciate our infrastructure a lot more! I ride a fairly boring Gazelle Orange with a 500 Wh battery. I got it for 20% off, as the shop was about to stop being a Gazelle dealer. And, to be honest, it’s great! If a little bit boring.. Hope you enjoy cycling here though!
This shouldn't cost more than $2000... especially when compared to Tenways CG0800s/600 Pro models or even Honbike UNI4. I guess somehow "smart" features worth an additional $600 to $900 extra.
Ah no way you were here in Stockholm! I've been watching tons of your videos and been jealous that you only have your store based in the UK. Here's to hoping that you open up a shop here soon in the future, and hope you had a great time here even though it was dark and cold! 💫
Sounds like a great option to own, like smart phone ownership, I look forward to it coming to the UK, if it does now we're non EU :( No mention of pricing?
The hire function is a great idea, especially for students or other people in a temporary location. Do you have to be constantly connected to the internet in order for it to operate?
can you review some speed pedelecs/s-pedelecs? i have been thinking of buying one cus normal ebikes are too slow for me. 😀 i kinda would like to buy Stromer ST2 but i am unsure if it is worth the price. 🙂
I mean Lectric is and has been selling good e-bikes for 1K USD. I have yet to see anything come close to it. So either they know something we don't or everyone else is just greedy.
Yet again we hear this newly found phrase…. “This is a belt drive and compared to a chain it is pretty much maintenance-free”. Another YT channel based in the USA regularly uses the same phrase. I’ve being cycling bicycles (road/mountain) for many decades and have rarely had to carry out any maintenance on the chains, bar a little oil every now and then. #marketingblurb. Incidentally, bikes boasting this overpriced belt-drive nonsense are now as expensive as a perfectly good 🚗 😂 I’ll buy a can of oil and keep my chain thank you very much. 😊 Oh I’ve just watched the rest of the video… Sweet Lord.., so if you can’t afford a 3k bike, you can essentially lease it through a subscription service. This we’re assured takes away all the concerns, worry, and may help us by stopping us having lost the will to live. I’m sorry , but the words being used are beyond ridiculous. A luxurious electric bike on a subscription with a free helmet thrown in for good measure… oh and you get to use an app… to cycle a bike 😂 😂 Please tell me people aren’t that gullible to nonsensical marketing. We really are doomed as a species if we fall for that nonsense. 🤯
Leasing an ebike for a summer period isn't a bad idea for people who can't afford to purchase e bikes outright. Depends on the prices. That is why we don't see a massive amount of e bikes is because they are expensive at £3-5k. Leasing has been very popular for cars here in the UK for many years. Prices have now rocketed though.
@@gingerjessy It's 79 euros per month to lease this ebike in Paris. A better ebike than this costs as little as £800 to buy, so I don't know where you got £3k-£5k from.
@@dtz1000 My Specialized e-Mountain bike was £4k in 2019. It is now £5k. Yes there are loads of different prices. The mountain bikes are more expensive.
The Reise & Müller bikes are really cool, and you're right are great quality. But they are do come with a price tag that definitely isn't as accessible for the average ride - that's where Vassla hope to step in!
Is this good to ride to and from work changing country side to city? I mostly ride on paved roads but there are some dirt roads on the way and normal steep hills. Should i just go for another bike instead?
love this bike love single speed belt drive simple strong mmmm only thing which concerns me is that I like doing long distance and it might get a bit tiring with your legs. going really really fast. could be handy to have an overdrive on it. somehow 2 or 3 speed hub would have to be extremely strong. 😍 I work for the council so I can get the cycle to work scheme. this bike really does score very highly. I'm looking for something extremely reliable and strong and made to last. however, gears could be good because I live in a very hilly area and I do like going long distance sometimes? any recommendations?
Please could you do a review of the Pedibal Navigata CitE? They seem to be a delightful UK company with excellent Customer Service - see Trip Advisor Reviews - but I want YOUR opinion on the product!!! 3:34
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
The bike is costly but I don't see much of an advantage renting it. I say, buy it if you can afford it. If you can't, forget it and go look for another bike at a price that is more within your range. In my opinion, renting is no solution. No info re rental cost given. But I bet you that in say 5 years time you would have spent double the bike's original cost and it still won't be yours. As the Kaiser put it, ''You will have nothing and you will be happy''. That's what the new world order is going to be like.
The rental is 79 Euros per month in Paris. A better one from Ado costs only 800 euros. So you would have spent five times what this ebike is worth if you rented it for five years. If you bought a similar specced one and had it stolen a few times over that five year period, you'd still be better off!
I won't want one of these. The step over height is too high, unnecessarily high. Its ok for you throwing your leg over but older less flexible, or those with hip replacements cannot use this sort of thing. It has a child seat. Great but how many times do you want to kick your child as you mount. The battery holder, for instance could be mounted lower with no loss of strength in the frame and make this product more inclusive and so attracktive. Finally, believe it or not, not everyone owns a smart phone, so those of us that don't are also excluded. As a bike for everyone it is a badly thought out oops moment.
Bog standard stuff barring the belt drive, not significasntly better that an £1,000 one to my mind. Finances houses have caused car proces to rocket with leasse schemes and are now rurning to bikes, buy what you can afford, leasing is for losers
I’m losing respect for the foreign location based episodes! We’ve had four videos this week with presenters from the UK spread across EU and Australia, it’s only making us that want to make a difference look like green-washers! The motto of these 4 differently named channels is “stop burning stuff” however the jet fuel used by presenters this week is more than i have used in 40+years! Lead by example! #Peace #Practisewhatyoupreach
For people who remains in a city and drive a gas-powered car in a city, the price of an e-bike is nothing. Save on finances and save on mental health, because being stuck in traffic is bad for mental health.
Is this an advertisement? Its not clear. 45Nm is low torque, my bosch gen 4 performance line is 85Nm
250w 45nm, its ok, R&M Load 60 is 250w 85nm?, most Bosch 250w motors are between 75nm and 85nm.
Mid drives have way more torque. But this is the same amount of torque as mid hub driven Fiido X, which has a 350w motor.
Facts
I really found that comment of hers quite uninformed
45nm of torque is pretty low, in my neck of the woods it wouldn't work at all (1 in 3 hills everywhere). I have a riese and mueller supercharger 85nm torque on the bosch motor, nothing less will suffice.
Another great video thank you. When you’re describing an ebike’s performance uphill, would it be possible to show a quick graphic of the gradient of the hill, to give us an idea of how steep it is? Just a thought - thanks again.
As an urban e cyclist here in Spain, I find the price hard to justify. It’s too big for compact cities like Madrid and I would imagine Paris. Having to haul this thing up and down the stairs will be quite a struggle. For urban setting, there are other brands such as Freeel in Spain that offers a lower range but sufficient for most type of bikes. There are quite a few bike subscription in Spain and a lot of people who work food delivery or moms that want to do drop offs and pick ups tend to rent them so they’re pretty popular. Their advantage is that as long as you lock them up as instructed, you only pay a 30€ paperwork fee if they get stolen. That can be quite attractive when you’re delivering food, having to run up and down stairs quickly and just wanting to lock the bike up against a tree for a few minutes.
Great video, £3k is too much for any ebike, subscription sounds fun. Depends, of course, bit like Microsoft office... always on your budget, cos you pay monthly. Not sure about the "take battery and pay nothing if stolen" it could be a recipe for people not to lock it up. More like this, please.
It's another ad for another overpriced European ebike.
The Ado A20 is £800 and is better than this.
@@dtz1000 Better in which ways.
@@ThomasMTube The Ado A20 is better because it has 7 gears, it also has front suspension and rear saddle tube shock absorber. The A20 can be unrestricted to 20mph and it has an optional throttle. Also don't be fooled by the display attached to the bike in this video. That is her own mobile that she has attached to the ebike to make you think it has a display. It actually has no display at all. The A20 does have one, of course. So you can see how misleading this video is.
This channel is a joke. They are just making ads and misleading ads at that.
@@dtz1000 the ado bike looks and is cheap and cheerful. I would say it has more features (gears, throttle etc) but this bike is a simplistic design, single speed belt drive full size commuter. This does look to have a bit higher quality, but maybe not 3x the price better.
@@timscott3027 Higher quality with no display? Are you sure about that?
I got a VanMoof last year on a cycle to work scheme to make it more affordable. I think that method is better than a subscription due to the tax savings. Anyway another great video electroheads :)
I've just made a video comparing the Vanmoof S3 and X3.
I loved the Vanmoof so much I bought two of them!
Looks great. My local bike shop had a Vanmoof in the shop with an issue and he couldn't work on it, it's proprietary to the point he couldn't readily replace the parts. Not sure how proprietary the Vassla is to be fair.
A subscription might help alleviate that but you really need some centers that are not in another country to facilitate that level of support, if your bike shop is locked out from fixing/repairing them.
Very nice looker for sure though I'm very jealous of the cycling infrastructure over there!
Completely agree - Vassla are keen to expand but obviously would only do so when able to satisfy the quality of service!
It's a great bike, and really think they would offer a great option for riders around the world.
And YES! The cycle lanes were great, hope London can take a leaf out of their book, we'd all benefit greatly from investment in proper cycle lanes and networks.
Really interested in this machine. Hope it comes to the UK soon and Birmingham in particular.
A subscription model is a good idea, but with no indication of pricing or availability in the UK, its a hard No from me…
It's 79 euros per month in Paris. Or buy a better ebike than this from Ado for £800.
Hi Simon - agreed, we love the subscription idea. However, pricing isn't finalised just yet so it wasn't included. This is an early doors preview!
For context, Vassla's Bike (that's it's name, but it's more like a tiny moped) was offered in Paris for:
- €79 per month for a six-month plan
- €49 per month without a subscription
@@Electroheads Are you sure about those prices? Would a 6-month subscription be more expensive per month than an ad-hoc version?
45nm from a 250w motor being "the torquiest" is borderline false advertising. 250w mid drive motors can produce even up to 85nm, which is something everyone who knows a thing or two about ebikes knows very well. Being a serious website/store/channel specializing in electric mobility, saying stuff like this is unprofessional and just sad. Sponsored reviews are not something bad, but being objectively false about something you specialize and promote, is. Anyway, keep up the great work and the nice reviews. Its not very common to find such good production level on this kind of content.
Totally agree.
Totally agree, for a channel that do lots of e bike reviews this comment about it being a really high torque motor has shown them up
Electrohead videos feels more like advertisements or showcase then review
Hmm, I like it. I’m also kind of interested in one of the moped things I saw.. Have you ever cycled in the Netherlands? Try it. It’s probably the cycle standard, especially in the big cities..
We'd love to get out to the Netherlands and do a whole load of cycling. On the 2023 wish list! What do you ride currently?
@@Electroheads I’ve cycled in multiple countries, which DID make me appreciate our infrastructure a lot more! I ride a fairly boring Gazelle Orange with a 500 Wh battery. I got it for 20% off, as the shop was about to stop being a Gazelle dealer. And, to be honest, it’s great! If a little bit boring.. Hope you enjoy cycling here though!
This shouldn't cost more than $2000... especially when compared to Tenways CG0800s/600 Pro models or even Honbike UNI4. I guess somehow "smart" features worth an additional $600 to $900 extra.
Ah no way you were here in Stockholm! I've been watching tons of your videos and been jealous that you only have your store based in the UK. Here's to hoping that you open up a shop here soon in the future, and hope you had a great time here even though it was dark and cold! 💫
Sounds like a great option to own, like smart phone ownership, I look forward to it coming to the UK, if it does now we're non EU :(
No mention of pricing?
expensive bike rental - not for me! try the Fiido!
The hire function is a great idea, especially for students or other people in a temporary location.
Do you have to be constantly connected to the internet in order for it to operate?
Great simple design. I'm just not sure about the lack of suspension.
can you review some speed pedelecs/s-pedelecs? i have been thinking of buying one cus normal ebikes are too slow for me. 😀 i kinda would like to buy Stromer ST2 but i am unsure if it is worth the price. 🙂
they are well built .Heavy. I'd get a cheaper used one, if price main issue for speed ebike order an ebike that can be unrestricted in settings
I mean Lectric is and has been selling good e-bikes for 1K USD. I have yet to see anything come close to it. So either they know something we don't or everyone else is just greedy.
If Lectric were available in the UK then half of these European companies ripping off the consumer with their overpriced ebikes would go bust.
@@dtz1000 crazy, didn't realize they weren't.
Lectric bikes sadly aren't available in the UK at the moment - but we'll check them out and maybe get a chance to review one!
Yet again we hear this newly found phrase…. “This is a belt drive and compared to a chain it is pretty much maintenance-free”.
Another YT channel based in the USA regularly uses the same phrase.
I’ve being cycling bicycles (road/mountain) for many decades and have rarely had to carry out any maintenance on the chains, bar a little oil every now and then.
#marketingblurb.
Incidentally, bikes boasting this overpriced belt-drive nonsense are now as expensive as a perfectly good 🚗 😂
I’ll buy a can of oil and keep my chain thank you very much. 😊
Oh I’ve just watched the rest of the video… Sweet Lord.., so if you can’t afford a 3k bike, you can essentially lease it through a subscription service. This we’re assured takes away all the concerns, worry, and may help us by stopping us having lost the will to live.
I’m sorry , but the words being used are beyond ridiculous.
A luxurious electric bike on a subscription with a free helmet thrown in for good measure… oh and you get to use an app… to cycle a bike 😂 😂
Please tell me people aren’t that gullible to nonsensical marketing.
We really are doomed as a species if we fall for that nonsense. 🤯
Leasing an ebike for a summer period isn't a bad idea for people who can't afford to purchase e bikes outright. Depends on the prices. That is why we don't see a massive amount of e bikes is because they are expensive at £3-5k. Leasing has been very popular for cars here in the UK for many years. Prices have now rocketed though.
@@gingerjessy It's 79 euros per month to lease this ebike in Paris. A better ebike than this costs as little as £800 to buy, so I don't know where you got £3k-£5k from.
@@dtz1000 My Specialized e-Mountain bike was £4k in 2019. It is now £5k. Yes there are loads of different prices. The mountain bikes are more expensive.
Looks an ok bike but not a patch on the likes of Riese & Muller. Single speed only?? No suspension fork or seat post?
The Reise & Müller bikes are really cool, and you're right are great quality. But they are do come with a price tag that definitely isn't as accessible for the average ride - that's where Vassla hope to step in!
Doesn't cover UK. Nice bike Paris only.
Not yet, but it will!
You still need suspension on a road bike - especially for the UK's pothole ridden roads.
Leasing an ebike?
Usually you end up paying more when you borrow so don't believe much of this "offer" which gives an 404 error.
Nice clean style but way too expensive .
How mich isthe gps feature it wont be free
I'd have one!
Is this good to ride to and from work changing country side to city? I mostly ride on paved roads but there are some dirt roads on the way and normal steep hills. Should i just go for another bike instead?
You we own nothing
and be happy. Vessella in conjunction with WEF
SO GOOD!
love this bike love single speed belt drive simple strong mmmm only thing which concerns me is that I like doing long distance and it might get a bit tiring with your legs. going really really fast. could be handy to have an overdrive on it. somehow 2 or 3 speed hub would have to be extremely strong. 😍 I work for the council so I can get the cycle to work scheme. this bike really does score very highly. I'm looking for something extremely reliable and strong and made to last. however, gears could be good because I live in a very hilly area and I do like going long distance sometimes? any recommendations?
Please could you do a review of the Pedibal Navigata CitE? They seem to be a delightful UK company with excellent Customer Service - see Trip Advisor Reviews - but I want YOUR opinion on the product!!! 3:34
Are you really gonna adjust the PAS via the app when on a ride? Or if wearing gloves turn on the lights?
probable only Eilis could talk us Americans into thinking we want one of these lol . Swedes do design amazing things tho . ngl
She does make good ads.
We purchased this Vivi 27.5” electric bike and a Tentaquil 26” electric bike for our 13 and 14 year olds. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxUiL0GnyDjP32RJdd660sP8mZk4CRLTCJ The Vivi was much easier to put together. With the Vivi, there was a video link to assist with assembly which made the process easier to follow (we did put the handlebars on upside down, but it was a quick and easy fix). With the Tentaquil, the assembly was not as simple to follow, but after we messaged the company for an assembly video, it was easier and they did respond quickly. The other major differences were that the Vivi has a grip throttle on the right handle (like a motorcycle) and the Tentaquil has a push throttle that you use your thumb to activate. The monitors were also different, so if you’re looking for something specific in terms of changing the bikes functions, pay attention to what the monitor offers. We were really impressed with the overall quality and functionality of both bikes, but if you’re looking for more power and an easier assembly, definitely go with the Vivi!
very cool
I don't know if it's available in the UK but will you be doing a video on the VanMoof S5/A5? ⚡ 🚲
We'd love to - will keep you in the loop via the members feed 👊
The welding is the first thing I noticed. 😂
ahahah! Like we mentioned in the vid, it's an early model so things will be tidied up 👍
2:40 How do you spell Seuss?
Dr Seuss you spell this way :) It is a kids book writer, not Zeus if this is what you mean?
How much is the subscription? I can't find it on their website
In Paris they are 79 euros per month. Total rip off. You can buy a better ebike than this for around £800.
The bike is costly but I don't see much of an advantage renting it. I say, buy it if you can afford it. If you can't, forget it and go look for another bike at a price that is more within your range. In my opinion, renting is no solution. No info re rental cost given. But I bet you that in say 5 years time you would have spent double the bike's original cost and it still won't be yours. As the Kaiser put it, ''You will have nothing and you will be happy''. That's what the new world order is going to be like.
Exactly. Rent everything and own nothing.
The rental is 79 Euros per month in Paris. A better one from Ado costs only 800 euros. So you would have spent five times what this ebike is worth if you rented it for five years.
If you bought a similar specced one and had it stolen a few times over that five year period, you'd still be better off!
I love it when the Globalist's conspiracies pop up randomly in the comments section. Tells me the word is getting out.👍
Great review
Thanks Angus!
eh, why not just use the Cycle2Work Scheme and get a discount per month on a 1.5-3k e-bike instead?
Good review
Glad you enjoyed it 😌
I love Stockholm
I thought it was VASSLA - not VESSLA ? .... Maybe that's how they pronounce it in Sweden !!
Those welds... Uuuuggh
Why does the brazing look very average?
Oh, this is a prototype frame 4:50
@@boheem3451 its welded to be technical about it
I won't want one of these. The step over height is too high, unnecessarily high. Its ok for you throwing your leg over but older less flexible, or those with hip replacements cannot use this sort of thing. It has a child seat. Great but how many times do you want to kick your child as you mount.
The battery holder, for instance could be mounted lower with no loss of strength in the frame and make this product more inclusive and so attracktive.
Finally, believe it or not, not everyone owns a smart phone, so those of us that don't are also excluded.
As a bike for everyone it is a badly thought out oops moment.
Back rack for your pack and a jack for your tack. Nice hack 🤣
BARS!! 😂😂😂
Hi Eilis , bike looks a bit strange .
Looks similar to the £800 Ado A20 but the A20 looks better imo.
Hi Antonio, each to their own! I like it. Bear in mind that this also isn't the final version, but a prototype of the bike we'll see this year 😌
The seat doesn’t look comfy at all
Bog standard stuff barring the belt drive, not significasntly better that an £1,000 one to my mind. Finances houses have caused car proces to rocket with leasse schemes and are now rurning to bikes, buy what you can afford, leasing is for losers
I’m losing respect for the foreign location based episodes! We’ve had four videos this week with presenters from the UK spread across EU and Australia, it’s only making us that want to make a difference look like green-washers! The motto of these 4 differently named channels is “stop burning stuff” however the jet fuel used by presenters this week is more than i have used in 40+years! Lead by example! #Peace #Practisewhatyoupreach
For people who remains in a city and drive a gas-powered car in a city, the price of an e-bike is nothing. Save on finances and save on mental health, because being stuck in traffic is bad for mental health.
Agreed! It's an option worth considering for those that can!
Lot of “also” going on in this review I lost count.
Sporting kinda lotta shiney jewelry there, h'aintcha....
losing respect for this channel? annoying clickbait...
"premium" with no front suspension.
And you have to provide your own display lol.
Nah.
Swedish law > EU law.
"You will own nothing and be happy" :(