Japanese really loves their collective unconscious/Jungian concepts. The God in Code Geass, the Persona series, and of course, the Nasuverse wih Gaia, Alaya, and now this... thing.
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub Yeah, it took me a while that Guda was literally punching the judge after the court trial. This timeline was already on the verge of being pruned. But BB Dubai won't have that and let her and Chaldea master beat the heck out it.
I don’t know, I think it’s an stretch to call this Jung’s “collective unconscious”. Jung’s original idea, to explain the prevalence of many similar icons in different cultures that exited without influencing each other, is that is that, just as humans are born with instincts like the fear of spiders or a fight or flight response, they are also born with certain ideas in their subconscious. For example: the icon of “a great mother”, a “tree of life”, of “light=good” and “shadows=bad”. He called it collective because it’s the same, or “shared” in everyone, and not in the sense that individuals form a “superorganism”. The anime/video games examples could certainly be called a “collective unconscious”, but not certainly a jungian one.
I just noticed that the NP name changes after each break bar, going from "Just World Hypothesis" to "Just World Falacy" and finaly to "Belief in a Just World". Edit: A quick google search later and I find out that "Just world Falacy/Hypothesis" comes from the cognitive bias that "people get what they deserve always" which includes things like victim blaming and such, and it fits with what is happening and what we are trying to prevent. Spoiler bellow Since we are trying to stop the pruning of this timeline since we dont agree with it meanwhile the world decided that they deserve it since they stoped "advancing" in the way it liked
They’re actual terms! The Just World Hypothesis/Fallacy is a cognitive bias where one believes that the world is fair and just, and everyone will get what they deserve. The last one, Belief in a Just World, is more a general statement, but it’s thematically relevant to Moon Cancer since it actively rejects any world wherein Humanity isn’t at the very top or where the status quo is greatly changed. It believes in a world where Humanity is the prime species as a “reward” for being “special” - but really, we’re not special, and being able to exist at all isn’t really a reward.
They are basically fighting against the stagnant, apathetic force of former mankind for the sake of the new species' future. This is some Gurren Lagann shit.
@@platogkrone7161 Short answer: Yes. Long answer: At this point, WHAT the final enemy is like (i.e. its shape or appearance) isn't going to be the problem. It's HOW it looks like (i.e. how utterly alien - or not, assuming the final enemy is a mirror match with CHALDEAS Guda or something to that effect - it would be).
I think I would try QSH for this one, as a pruned timeline emperor i totally see him throwing hands with the pruning process itself, give the LB kings chance of payback😅
Opposing the pruning. Watch this become the catalyst for a part 3, where this direct opposition against Alaya itself makes us into an enemy of the world itself, leading it to try to destroy us because we are a threat.
Weren’t the Ordeal Calls set up by Alaya as a way to reintegrate Chaldea back into the Human Order, since they’re being rejected as foreign? So it should be a good thing to Alaya that we beat it.
@@firebluetoad3990 In fairness, given Alaya's track record (and Fate works in general) it wouldn't be surprising if it inexplicably took beef with it. Still, I think we'll get a pass this time. Hopefully.
ORT is much worst coz u need to fight him 3X😳😳😳...,while this one is only once😅😅😅. Also ORT had a lot of HP bar to removed...,not to mention that during the 1st fight everytime you lost in that fight,the Servant that lost will permanently remove 😱. The 2nd and 3rd time is the only OK to fight him without worrying to lost a Servant permanently 😅😅😅
The other comments confirm that that's what's happening. This is the Pruning Phenomenon, the erasure of a doomed timeline by the World, given a physical form for us to fight.
Because this one is literally the pruning phenomenon given physical form (courtesy of the BB's merging), you fight physical concepts for the others, this one was forced to be given one just to stop the pruning process.
While the story line make sense, but I can't believe they did a Boss Character like that... just a 2D lightbulb character, how can they sell plushes or anything based on that character as merchandise, I guess they had to rush OC3 for release :( cause really what a let down of a boss character.
Its an Abstract Concept of a Almight Being, it does not have to make sense or look intimidating it Just have to provoke an ominous and omnipotent feeling
@@alexandremilitao4212 I understand that I already said while storyline it makes sense, it could have done better. you can do a lot with lights and shadow. without it having look so 2D Mooncancer Symbol with tentacles attached.
@@drakehound2244 dude is not even the moon cancer symbol. It doesnt has to be elaborate, it had to be omnious, ethereal, being the colective human will of moon dubai (and in a way, classism as well). Tbh better be this way than an overly haunty mishmash of a design made just to look "kool" like Hazbin Hotel characters or mega evolution
It looks like this because it's essentially Luminous Body lol, the collective unconciousness of humanity is performing a pruning event, the world looks like this because Alaya is employing Event Storage on a planetary scale to preserve the era's data as records before ultimately deleting the timeline.
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Japanese really loves their collective unconscious/Jungian concepts.
The God in Code Geass, the Persona series, and of course, the Nasuverse wih Gaia, Alaya, and now this... thing.
It's essentially the pruning attempt at their world given physical form.
This is one of Alaya's functions, pruning event
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub Yeah, it took me a while that Guda was literally punching the judge after the court trial.
This timeline was already on the verge of being pruned. But BB Dubai won't have that and let her and Chaldea master beat the heck out it.
You do realise most of these come from other mythologies, right?
I don’t know, I think it’s an stretch to call this Jung’s “collective unconscious”. Jung’s original idea, to explain the prevalence of many similar icons in different cultures that exited without influencing each other, is that is that, just as humans are born with instincts like the fear of spiders or a fight or flight response, they are also born with certain ideas in their subconscious. For example: the icon of “a great mother”, a “tree of life”, of “light=good” and “shadows=bad”. He called it collective because it’s the same, or “shared” in everyone, and not in the sense that individuals form a “superorganism”.
The anime/video games examples could certainly be called a “collective unconscious”, but not certainly a jungian one.
I just noticed that the NP name changes after each break bar, going from "Just World Hypothesis" to "Just World Falacy" and finaly to "Belief in a Just World".
Edit: A quick google search later and I find out that "Just world Falacy/Hypothesis" comes from the cognitive bias that "people get what they deserve always" which includes things like victim blaming and such, and it fits with what is happening and what we are trying to prevent. Spoiler bellow
Since we are trying to stop the pruning of this timeline since we dont agree with it meanwhile the world decided that they deserve it since they stoped "advancing" in the way it liked
From 'Is a just world possible?, to 'No it isn't', to finally 'even if it logically isn't I'll believe in it'.
They’re actual terms! The Just World Hypothesis/Fallacy is a cognitive bias where one believes that the world is fair and just, and everyone will get what they deserve.
The last one, Belief in a Just World, is more a general statement, but it’s thematically relevant to Moon Cancer since it actively rejects any world wherein Humanity isn’t at the very top or where the status quo is greatly changed. It believes in a world where Humanity is the prime species as a “reward” for being “special” - but really, we’re not special, and being able to exist at all isn’t really a reward.
So basically, Extra, Extella and Extella Link, cuz that's how their environment/world is during those time
They are basically fighting against the stagnant, apathetic force of former mankind for the sake of the new species' future.
This is some Gurren Lagann shit.
@@mamons30DO THE IMPOSSIBLE, SEE THE INVISIBLE! ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER!
Xnaya when use hakuno: just reset the fucking card
This is making me wonder: Just HOW would the eventual fight against the globe CHALDEAS look like?
>How would it look?
>What would it look like?
Pick one.
*fighting the sun
It'll take anthropomorphic manifestation a.k.a John Order
With Galahad as its Servant
@@platogkrone7161 Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: At this point, WHAT the final enemy is like (i.e. its shape or appearance) isn't going to be the problem. It's HOW it looks like (i.e. how utterly alien - or not, assuming the final enemy is a mirror match with CHALDEAS Guda or something to that effect - it would be).
@@neves783001 *********************************How it looks.
I think I would try QSH for this one, as a pruned timeline emperor i totally see him throwing hands with the pruning process itself, give the LB kings chance of payback😅
lasagna back again with top tier enemy design. cool sprite
you fight the back of the card itself
that thing looks like the back of foreigner card rather than moon cancer card
You fight the pruning of the world itself/collective unconscious of Moon Dubai, made physical thanks to Fate shenanigans.
You know what
I'm starting to see why Galahad leave us
why?
Literally fighting the background XD
Good. That stupid background had had it too good for too long
"Oh no you're a wall now."
At least it's a more interactive background than the valentine event one.
I absolutely love that you grailed kenshin after she carried the entirety of oc3 lol
Opposing the pruning. Watch this become the catalyst for a part 3, where this direct opposition against Alaya itself makes us into an enemy of the world itself, leading it to try to destroy us because we are a threat.
I thought the OC were part 3
Weren’t the Ordeal Calls set up by Alaya as a way to reintegrate Chaldea back into the Human Order, since they’re being rejected as foreign? So it should be a good thing to Alaya that we beat it.
@@firebluetoad3990 In fairness, given Alaya's track record (and Fate works in general) it wouldn't be surprising if it inexplicably took beef with it. Still, I think we'll get a pass this time. Hopefully.
This vs ORT. Absolute dream match.
ORT is much worst coz u need to fight him 3X😳😳😳...,while this one is only once😅😅😅. Also ORT had a lot of HP bar to removed...,not to mention that during the 1st fight everytime you lost in that fight,the Servant that lost will permanently remove 😱. The 2nd and 3rd time is the only OK to fight him without worrying to lost a Servant permanently 😅😅😅
ORT is humanity’s worst foe and this thing is part of humanity itself. ORT counters hard
Friggin' AMAZING OST.
That first skill is actually so broken lmao
He's great for multicore farming since it eliminates some RnG if you're using face cards for a wave
I feel like recent event final boss is fighting against a catastrophe or a concept that have been given physical form rather than a sentient being
The other comments confirm that that's what's happening. This is the Pruning Phenomenon, the erasure of a doomed timeline by the World, given a physical form for us to fight.
奏章Ⅲクリアしたー！
ムーン・キャンサー戦1発クリアできて良かった
Fate's had a lot of really bizarre antagonists, but it's not often that you get to punch an *abstract construct* in what passes for its face.
Literally how the hell did we manage to fight this thing? What kind of help did we get from????
All the Moon Cancer servants powered up, Eresh as a Beast and the Moon Cell itself.
この時ザビ二人入れたけど戦い方わからなすぎて結局システムで殴って石殴りしてた。
フツーに星無限生成できるしBBが地球まで飛ばされて戦闘中焦った
close enough, welcome back Star Dream Soul OS
自分がここに挑むの二～三年後になりそう(遠い目)
石を砕きまくり、時間を作りさえすれば…あるいは…😅
まあ後日のインタールード追加は確定してるので焦らずのんびり進めていただければ......
what's the name of the song at 0:01?
Zooming out for the boss? Is it really big? Why can't we do the same for the rest lol
Because this one is literally the pruning phenomenon given physical form (courtesy of the BB's merging), you fight physical concepts for the others, this one was forced to be given one just to stop the pruning process.
Thats a wicked cool thumbnail choice.
Man I really need to know what’s going on
How many acts does that have? I'm in act 20.
22
This is the second to the last battle
結論: 同調圧力、滅ぶべし。
ﾑｰﾝ・ｷｬﾝｻｰ、お前の事やぞ。
The last part is so fkkkn annoying without np2 bro keeps draining the np and i keep missing 3% to finish it
Can someone use himeko to beat this boss😩
Does the giant boss always make every servant HP at 1 when using its NP? Or was it all just coincidence?
It’s a non lethal NP. You can reduce its damage with Defense buff so it’s not “set Servant’s HP to 1”, it just can’t deal lethal damage.
nah bro das alaya after humankind aired shikanoko nokonoko and now with +10000000 sigma ohio skibidi rizz aura thanks to BB
While the story line make sense, but I can't believe they did a Boss Character like that... just a 2D lightbulb character, how can they sell plushes or anything based on that character as merchandise, I guess they had to rush OC3 for release :( cause really what a let down of a boss character.
Its an Abstract Concept of a Almight Being, it does not have to make sense or look intimidating it Just have to provoke an ominous and omnipotent feeling
it's the Collective Subconscious of Humanity Brainrot as a Boss
we're one step closer to fighting Alaya and probably rizz that thing as well
@@alexandremilitao4212 I understand that I already said while storyline it makes sense, it could have done better. you can do a lot with lights and shadow. without it having look so 2D Mooncancer Symbol with tentacles attached.
@@drakehound2244 dude is not even the moon cancer symbol.
It doesnt has to be elaborate, it had to be omnious, ethereal, being the colective human will of moon dubai (and in a way, classism as well).
Tbh better be this way than an overly haunty mishmash of a design made just to look "kool" like Hazbin Hotel characters or mega evolution
It looks like this because it's essentially Luminous Body lol, the collective unconciousness of humanity is performing a pruning event, the world looks like this because Alaya is employing Event Storage on a planetary scale to preserve the era's data as records before ultimately deleting the timeline.
_Hakuno/non and ruler artoria pass by eachother in Chaldea_
Ruler artoria: "Who are you?"
Hakuno/non: "I'm you, but better."