this man has such an understanding of the word of god and people think they have an argument to fight his but i just love the way cliffe break their argument down and brings it back to the same thing everytime and everytime he speaks the truth
It's polite to acknowledge the fact the person for thinking intelligently, and it's an encouragement to the students to continue thinking on the subject. He's encourage them to keep searching for truth.
No one is getting ripped off. Children who don't understand will go to Heaven because God is GOOD and JUST! Tribes in Africa will be judged accordingly. As Jesus said, Less is given, less is judged, much is given, much is judged! Luke 12:48 - But most of us have heard of God and do not like his rules because he tells us what to do and not to do. I have this issue, but I have put my faith in GOD ultimately and not to run away because of my sin..Rather face head on.
Yooo at 26:36 after the pastor says “ have u received the gift” while clenching his fist, something walks across the screen 📺 and I believe it’s the Holy Spirit‼️👀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
the first 10 names of the bible can be translated to those amazing words! this is how you show the bible is the word of god, cliffe! the meanings of each of the names of the 10 first born sons in genesis are translated as a reflection of the new testament! all together in a list from top to bottom will read as "man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the blessed god shall come down teaching. his death shall bring the despairing comfort and rest. isnt that beautiful?
Not all cause I didn't. Truly "I have to see something to believe in God" was spoken by me before I met Death as a former straight edge Atheist. I was dead wrong but He is a forgiving God. With us! ❤❤❤
you see even though we know the answer to the question doesnt mean its a dumb question. they are just un knowledgeable in that area. Questions I use to struggle with are now so simple to me. So the questions these students ask and struggle with may be simple to you because you already asked these questions long ago
Hey Cliffe, I want to ask you a question. If you don't have time to answer that's fine and I understand. Anyway I have a thing I do on webkinz, I tell other kids about Jesus. I get mad though at the others who report me and get me banned. I get made fun of a lot and Jesus is made fun of to. Which I rarely loose it, but the times I do I feel bad I say sorry and try to do my best to clean my mess up then move on. I mostly say God bless to the rude ones. How do you keep calm? I wish to know.
Albert Camus, was a French Nobel Prize winning author, journalist, and philosopher. His views contributed to the rise of the philosophy known as absurdism. Jean-Paul Sartre, was a French existentialist philosopher. He was one of the key figures in the philosophy of existentialism, and one of the leading figures in 20th-century French philosophy and Marxism.
Assyria no longer exists. The Egypt Isiah was referring to no longer exists, having been replaced by several other distinct nations. Pathros doesn't exist. Cush doesn't exist. Elam doesn't exist. Shinar doesn't exist. Hamath doesn't exist. While the "islands of the sea" exist, the nations he was referring to no longer exist. These weren't just name changes, Tangent. Anyone who has studied world history knows that. These were separate states, ethnic groups, nationalities, and people.
Tangent, if the people knew about the "prophecy" and made their decisions based upon it, that makes it self-fulfilling. What part of that aren't you getting?
Heh, it's funny how I always seem to get this response when I ask for evidence... "I don't have to! You should do my work for me!" Sorry Ada, but that's not how grown-ups do things.
First of all, I did not mention those in the ones I gave you. Damascus, Israel, Jerusalem all exist. You're of now on to others but forgot some. Gog- Magog etc. All the countries and peoples, can be tracked to their current region status. Assyria is Syria for the most part. You're splitting hairs a bit don't you think.
Now your just floundering. What countries/cities that are mentioned don't exist? They still exist and by many current name. Man, your bar keeps going up and up. Is a request for video despositions next? These were made over 2,300 years ago and I give a bit slack on some especially considering the multitude of fulfilled prophecies-the context of how they are presented. Many more toast.
If a UN resolution is approved it is UN sanctioned. The fact that all arab/islamic countries voted down (not quite sure that is the case) that makes that much more credible then doesn't it.
And as I said, none of those nations are the same state that this ancient writer was referring to. These are entirely different governments, ethnicities, and and people. You can't just say "well, they sit on the same land, so they must be the same country." It's this simplistic, Sunday school understanding of the world that has led to all this misinformation that people like Cliffe spew constantly.
And I will tell you the same thing I told Ada. For something to be a prophecy, it has to have A) been explicitly written or spoken as a SPECIFIC revealed action of the future and B) actually have happened. So far, none of the bible's so-called "prophecies" have ever met this burden of evidence.
Here's an example for you in Psalms it speaks of how Jesus will be crucified on the cross and I'll even say my God my God why have you forsaken the exact same words that he speaks when he's on the cross and crucified in the New Testament that's just one example
And since you dodged it before: if you and I went into a restaurant and I told you "I promise you that I shall be given a beer in the future," and then I order a beer and the server brings it to the table, would that be a fulfilled prophecy?
Ada, you first need to prove that A) these were intended as prophecies and B) that they actually happened. Thus far, none of these events have ever been confirmed to have even happened.
First off, you need to prove that those verses were written as prophecy. And secondly, even if they were prophetic, are you aware that between that time and 1541, that gate was unsealed? If anything, that disproves the "prophecy."
He brings up perdition, but ignores the other half that states there is a God. Yes, people are able to evaluate morality & be moral without acknowledging God. It does not inherently save them. You still need Jesus' free gift. No work under heaven gives you the right to heaven, except the cross of Christ. God Bless
I disagree Toast. Assert all you want. Things have changed somewhat, but it is not unidentifiable or reconizable to biblical times. Egypt is still Egypt unless they relocated the pyramids. Assyria is Syria Damascus is still Damascus Persia is Iran Magog is Russia Rome is Rome Why does Israel continue to be the center of controversy? Why are they constantly being threatened. Why the hate for the Jews?
Verse 10 is nonsensical. Verse 11 is inaccurate, as it references nations that no longer exist. Verse 12 says nothing about a state. And even if it did, it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I mean, if you and I went into a restaurant and I told you "I promise you that I shall be given a beer in the future," and then I order a beer and the server brings it to the table, would that be a fulfilled prophecy?
REASON, EMOTION & TRUTH; "I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." HOLY BIBLE (Revelation 2:9). How many of you now say you support the non-Christian Jesus hating Jews in the State of Israel and did God use evil Hitler to punish these Jews that hate the Lord God Jesus? Private Investigator Sinne U.S.A. Washington
I'm sorry if you feel bullied, Tangent. But I've just seen all of these arguments before, and none of them are even remotely convincing. I care about whether or not my beliefs are based in reality, and when people insist on telling me I should believe a fairy tale, and take on that fairy tale's disgusting lack of morality, it gets frustrating. It's insulting to both my intelligence and values. But if you feel my tone was too aggressive, I do apologize.
There are hundreds ... for starters The dispersion and gathering of the jewish state fulfilled 1948 Isaiah 11:10-12 Also the holocaust is prophesied is several areas. Isaiah 3:24 "Instead of fragrance there will be a stench; instead of a sash, a rope; instead of well-dressed hair, baldness; instead of fine clothing, sackcloth; instead of beauty, branding" (Burning instead of branding in KJV) I started with these for a reason and your answer will show why.
You keep changing criteria now. Moving the goal posts. You say undisclosed countries, The Bible gives countries and cities. There is a timeline of events but I can't read the bible for you. You have to do something at some point Toast, I can't spoon feed you forever.
Look, if you're going to try to convince me of your childish view of world geography, you're fighting a losing battle. I know you want your fairy tale about talking snakes and dudes living inside whales to be real, but don't ask me to dumb down my understanding of history.
And yet you still can't give me a single example that both A) is explicitly intended as a prophecy and B) is independently confirmed to have actually happened. You can't just keep saying "Jesus fulfilled miracles" and not back it up with facts, Ada. It's childish and ineffective.
this man has such an understanding of the word of god and people think they have an argument to fight his but i just love the way cliffe break their argument down and brings it back to the same thing everytime and everytime he speaks the truth
It's polite to acknowledge the fact the person for thinking intelligently, and it's an encouragement to the students to continue thinking on the subject. He's encourage them to keep searching for truth.
No one is getting ripped off. Children who don't understand will go to Heaven because God is GOOD and JUST! Tribes in Africa will be judged accordingly. As Jesus said, Less is given, less is judged, much is given, much is judged! Luke 12:48 - But most of us have heard of God and do not like his rules because he tells us what to do and not to do. I have this issue, but I have put my faith in GOD ultimately and not to run away because of my sin..Rather face head on.
Yooo at 26:36 after the pastor says “ have u received the gift” while clenching his fist, something walks across the screen 📺 and I believe it’s the Holy Spirit‼️👀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
It’s the sun reflecting off of a vehicles window as they pass OR if you choose to believe it’s the HS, who am I to tell you you are wrong.
I think the refrigeration argument was pretty bad. But, other than that, well done, as usual!
You become calm by believing in what you practice after you have practiced it.Carl in Vernon.
she is so beautiful, evidence for God confirmed O_O.
Bro 😂
the first 10 names of the bible can be translated to those amazing words! this is how you show the bible is the word of god, cliffe!
the meanings of each of the names of the 10 first born sons in genesis are translated as a reflection of the new testament!
all together in a list from top to bottom will read as
"man (is) appointed mortal sorrow; (but) the blessed god shall come down teaching. his death shall bring the despairing comfort and rest.
isnt that beautiful?
Definitely ❤❤❤
Good video...would have liked to hear the students response though.
@9:30 it's cool John the Baptist was sitting in on this one!
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Looks like God was chillin in the background, not-so-subtly... Lol
All human beings know for certain that God's unique qualities
and activities are factual, and this includes you.
Not all cause I didn't. Truly "I have to see something to believe in God" was spoken by me before I met Death as a former straight edge Atheist. I was dead wrong but He is a forgiving God. With us! ❤❤❤
you see even though we know the answer to the question doesnt mean its a dumb question. they are just un knowledgeable in that area. Questions I use to struggle with are now so simple to me. So the questions these students ask and struggle with may be simple to you because you already asked these questions long ago
Hey Cliffe, I want to ask you a question. If you don't have time to answer that's fine and I understand. Anyway I have a thing I do on webkinz, I tell other kids about Jesus. I get mad though at the others who report me and get me banned. I get made fun of a lot and Jesus is made fun of to. Which I rarely loose it, but the times I do I feel bad I say sorry and try to do my best to clean my mess up then move on. I mostly say God bless to the rude ones. How do you keep calm? I wish to know.
it’s grace coming from Jesus
Me too bub. Give up all anger and lay it at His feet. He will never leave us
Awesome upload...Great analogy with the sheet music.
Albert Camus, was a French Nobel Prize winning author, journalist, and philosopher. His views contributed to the rise of the philosophy known as absurdism.
Jean-Paul Sartre, was a French existentialist philosopher. He was one of the key figures in the philosophy of existentialism, and one of the leading figures in 20th-century French philosophy and Marxism.
I've heard Cliffe mention a name that when pronounced sounds like Ca-moo - I'm guessing it's spelled Camus?
I'm not Cliffe, haha, but I can help you out there. He also normally refers to the Atheist existentialists Albert Camus and Jean-Paul Sartre :)
Assyria no longer exists. The Egypt Isiah was referring to no longer exists, having been replaced by several other distinct nations. Pathros doesn't exist. Cush doesn't exist. Elam doesn't exist. Shinar doesn't exist. Hamath doesn't exist. While the "islands of the sea" exist, the nations he was referring to no longer exist. These weren't just name changes, Tangent. Anyone who has studied world history knows that. These were separate states, ethnic groups, nationalities, and people.
Tangent, at this point I will take anything I can get.
You didn't ask for evidence you asked for proof.
If there is nothing but natural law where did we get this idea of the supernatural or supernatural event?
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Tangent, if the people knew about the "prophecy" and made their decisions based upon it, that makes it self-fulfilling. What part of that aren't you getting?
Heh, it's funny how I always seem to get this response when I ask for evidence... "I don't have to! You should do my work for me!" Sorry Ada, but that's not how grown-ups do things.
Again, how is that different from me saying "there will be a war?" If it isn't specific about its details, scale, and time, it's not a prophecy.
First of all, I did not mention those in the ones I gave you. Damascus, Israel, Jerusalem all exist. You're of now on to others
but forgot some. Gog- Magog etc. All the countries and peoples, can be tracked to their current region status. Assyria is Syria for the most part.
You're splitting hairs a bit don't you think.
Now your just floundering. What countries/cities that are mentioned don't exist? They still exist and by many current name. Man, your bar keeps going up and up. Is a request for video despositions next?
These were made over 2,300 years ago and I give a bit slack on some especially considering the multitude of fulfilled prophecies-the context of how they are presented. Many more toast.
The girl at the beginning has a celestial nose. A celestial nose is a nose that curves upward
If a UN resolution is approved it is UN sanctioned. The fact that all arab/islamic countries voted down (not quite sure that is the case) that makes that much more credible then doesn't it.
And as I said, none of those nations are the same state that this ancient writer was referring to. These are entirely different governments, ethnicities, and and people. You can't just say "well, they sit on the same land, so they must be the same country." It's this simplistic, Sunday school understanding of the world that has led to all this misinformation that people like Cliffe spew constantly.
And I will tell you the same thing I told Ada. For something to be a prophecy, it has to have A) been explicitly written or spoken as a SPECIFIC revealed action of the future and B) actually have happened. So far, none of the bible's so-called "prophecies" have ever met this burden of evidence.
Here's an example for you in Psalms it speaks of how Jesus will be crucified on the cross and I'll even say my God my God why have you forsaken the exact same words that he speaks when he's on the cross and crucified in the New Testament that's just one example
Toasty answer my example please and there are many in Daniel and Revelation, Mathew etc....
Countries and cities that no longer exist, Tangent. This is a piss poor prophecy if he couldn't even get that right.
And since you dodged it before: if you and I went into a restaurant and I told you "I promise you that I shall be given a beer in the future," and then I order a beer and the server brings it to the table, would that be a fulfilled prophecy?
Arrogant twit.
It would only be an appeal to authority if I had omitted the first sentence. Get off your high horse.
It's both! God's people were to be set apart from the rest of the world. :)
Ada, you first need to prove that A) these were intended as prophecies and B) that they actually happened. Thus far, none of these events have ever been confirmed to have even happened.
First off, you need to prove that those verses were written as prophecy.
And secondly, even if they were prophetic, are you aware that between that time and 1541, that gate was unsealed? If anything, that disproves the "prophecy."
He brings up perdition, but ignores the other half that states there is a God. Yes, people are able to evaluate morality & be moral without acknowledging God. It does not inherently save them. You still need Jesus' free gift. No work under heaven gives you the right to heaven, except the cross of Christ.
God Bless
John 14:6 would say otherwise.
Really, if this is the best you can do, I'd almost rather just talk to Ada again. Almost.
It's not often you find people with such a nose shape
Undisclosed nation? Jews and Israel is pretty specific. There are many more.
The east gate in the city will be sealed shut until the end
Ezekiel 44:1 - 3 (fulfilled)
Sealed by Muslims.
Both points are irrelevant, Tangent. That was stupid.
I disagree Toast. Assert all you want.
Things have changed somewhat, but it is not unidentifiable or reconizable to biblical times.
Egypt is still Egypt unless they relocated the pyramids.
Assyria is Syria
Damascus is still Damascus
Persia is Iran
Magog is Russia
Rome is Rome
Why does Israel continue to be the center of controversy?
Why are they constantly being threatened.
Why the hate for the Jews?
Isaiah 17 in process
Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
Verse 10 is nonsensical.
Verse 11 is inaccurate, as it references nations that no longer exist.
Verse 12 says nothing about a state. And even if it did, it would be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I mean, if you and I went into a restaurant and I told you "I promise you that I shall be given a beer in the future," and then I order a beer and the server brings it to the table, would that be a fulfilled prophecy?
So what? Dude, you aren't any closer to proving that this was an example of a Jewish author receiving revealed fact about the future.
Soundly debunks you comment of self-fulfilling. At least you admit is was fulfilled.
REASON, EMOTION & TRUTH;
"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, but thou art rich and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan." HOLY BIBLE (Revelation 2:9). How many of you now say you support the non-Christian Jesus hating Jews in the State of Israel and did God use evil Hitler to punish these Jews that hate the Lord God Jesus?
Private Investigator Sinne
U.S.A. Washington
I'm sorry if you feel bullied, Tangent. But I've just seen all of these arguments before, and none of them are even remotely convincing. I care about whether or not my beliefs are based in reality, and when people insist on telling me I should believe a fairy tale, and take on that fairy tale's disgusting lack of morality, it gets frustrating. It's insulting to both my intelligence and values. But if you feel my tone was too aggressive, I do apologize.
I dunno, he has a very unsettling habit of dishonest when he works. That isn't very admirable.
What about those who have never heard of your god or are too young to understand. Are they damned as well?
No.
No they're not. The Bible says that, in the days of ignorance, God winked. Meaning he didn't put it against them.
There are hundreds ...
for starters
The dispersion and gathering of the jewish state fulfilled 1948
Isaiah 11:10-12
Also the holocaust is prophesied is several areas.
Isaiah 3:24
"Instead of fragrance there will be a stench; instead of a sash, a rope; instead of well-dressed hair, baldness; instead of fine clothing, sackcloth; instead of beauty, branding" (Burning instead of branding in KJV)
I started with these for a reason and your answer will show why.
Isn't what you atheists call "an appeal to authority". I get flags thrown at me on that but I'll let you slide.
You keep changing criteria now. Moving the goal posts. You say undisclosed countries, The Bible gives countries and cities. There is a timeline of events but I can't read the bible for you. You have to do something at some point Toast, I can't spoon feed you forever.
How is that irrelevant?
Is this your way of conceding. That's usually how I see atheists do it.
How can you blaspheme a god you've never heard of?
Go look at the vote, kiddo. You're talking to a political scientist.
Look, if you're going to try to convince me of your childish view of world geography, you're fighting a losing battle. I know you want your fairy tale about talking snakes and dudes living inside whales to be real, but don't ask me to dumb down my understanding of history.
And yet you still can't give me a single example that both A) is explicitly intended as a prophecy and B) is independently confirmed to have actually happened. You can't just keep saying "Jesus fulfilled miracles" and not back it up with facts, Ada. It's childish and ineffective.
John 14:6 would say otherwise.