Thanks for the video! Same 24 voices, same four independent 6 voice synthesizers, same analog filters, same poly after-touch and MPE functionality, same eight outputs, and of course the same sound as the keyboard, just a smaller form factor.
No potential heat issues on the electronics in the future, with the smaller form with less airflow? I would love the keys, but with quite a few out-of-town/country gigs this might be better.
@@raulmitra3531 We have been testing since the late summer. Because the power supply is external, we have had no problems. I absolutely love the keyboard, and would say it is slightly easier to use due to a few more controls. But, if you need the exact same sound in s smaller form factor, this is your synthesizer. And no, you will not find menu diving, just a couple of areas to consolidate the controls and still keep everything as knob per function as possible.
You don't have to worry over overheating because of the space difference. The only thing I worry over is if I would miss the keyboard version ;)@@raulmitra3531
That first sequence is very catchy and sounds great. I was listening to a Moog One warm lead patch on one You Tube channel and the next video that came up was a very similar patch being played on the 3rd Wave. The 3rd wave filters had its lead sound matching the moog one filtered warm sound very closely. The wave tables are really good but the virtual analog/analog filters are are a great sound on the 3rd wave from samples I have heard.
If I had one complaint about this, it's that I wish they had just made the damn thing a 1/2" narrower so that you could rack mount it, similar to a deckard's dream.
Intresting, I would never rack a synth I want close by, seems exhausting to keep my hands high, maybe will be better with these angled sidecars? still looks too far, but if it's really just half an inch it does seem like they miss an opportunity for whoever does, maybe if you mostly use an editor.
Not a word of a lie, I made a very similar track 14:20 on my UDO Super 6, and I am sending that back due to the fact it appears it's all it can do. I am replacing it with funnily enough a 3rd Wave desktop. I just find the 3rd Wave far more enticing, the S6 is a great synth, just that I am not buying something that does the same same over and over.. Binaural is good, up to a point, then it just becomes tedious imo. I just love the fact that the 3rd Wave is 4 synths in one. Thx for the upload.
I just checked the original recording of the Cure again, album published in April 1980, probably recorded in later 1979, the intro doesn't sound like an analogue synth, but the first commercially available PPG 2 wasn't released before 1981 - maybe a Wolfgang Palm prototype? Probably not, because Cure at that time weren't exactly famous or rich....
@@bernios3446 You have to be joking... The 3rd Wave didn't exist then I'm obviously talking about musical similarities of that demo snippet. If you've bothered to listen to the song you'd know. It's a comment acknowledging the breath of the 3rd Wave. The Cure uses both guitars and synths. You think you've cracked the case that their sound lacks an analogue? But might be a Wolfgang? Huh? What an assinine endeavor, lot's of things can sound like lots of other things, that is the whole point.
@@UberOcelot I obviously am aware of that, I thought you might suggest that they used an early Wolfgang Palm synth - the basic wavetables stayed the same since the first PPG Wave from the early 80ies - many musicians used to test early prototypes of the manufacturers-, like the old drum machines - some were even custom built for musicians and then released in series....
@@bernios3446 I certainly wasn't suggesting they used a Wolfgang or any PPG synth. Maybe they leveraged a similar waveform loaded into a performance workstation as they play live, but I would see no evidence to suggest it's Wave lineage. The similarities are mostly down to composition here, and if anything synth playing evocative of that time draws from a particular pallet of theory. But I'm sure there are answers out there to how that song was recorded.
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When pressing ENV 3 or ENV 4 button. Will the corresponding row Filter Env and Amp envelope knobs act as ADSR knobs for ENV 3 and ENV 4? And also the encoders on the screen will act as a dialer for them?
I have a kodamo essence fm mk2 500 voice polyphony bought for 1000$. I only wanted this 3rd wave for the original ppg wave forms and the sq-80 waveforms and maybe prophet vector vs. waveforms is it even worth it.
Well, now I hear that all these analog filters, when put together, start to sound muddy and the overall mix becomes dirty. The low end is powerful, but also very muddy.
Excuse my ignorance, but the keyboard has a prominent Wave Surfer knob, which doesn’t appear on the module. Does that make a difference? Is it still exactly the same synth?
Nice video! A good sounding synth…. but I prefer the Waldorf Iridium: Half the price, Wavetable + FM + Granular + VA and a better screen. Sounds also good
It's $3495 for this desktop unit. What other synth offers quad-timbral architecture and 24 voices with analog filters? 3rd Wave has 24 x SSI-2140 "Prophet" VCF filters, plus a second digital state variable filter per voice. Also, several different oscillator architectures: classic PPG, modern high def wavetables, Prophet VS Waves (new), plus classic analog subtractive waveforms. It's not cheap, but this is a high end flagship synth.
@@CreativeSpiral I wonder what the tax is looking like? Yeah, It doesn't look like a $4000 unit at all. I can do way more with Phase Plant and a $100 midi controller. total: $200. I get the analog filter and blah, blah but come on..
I wouldn't buy this $3,500 desktop module to use a cheap controller like that. You should get a fully polyphonic aftertouch controller with at least 61 keys or more + preferably MPE since 3rd Wave now supports it.
A good tradesman never blames his tools, doesn't matter how good something is, it doesn't make your skill set any better. So your "bare minimum" means nothing to a lot of people.
@@2ammusik lol so many high quality wave instruments which can put this crap to shame, Serum and its vast wavetables and programming, Arturia Sq80, Pigments, Hive, Massive , Opal all of them can outperform this overpriced shit
@@davemaverick8438 those can outperform it yes, many VSTs can. I agree there. But when it comes to sound quality on a hardware synth, the 3rd Wave is going to beat it. The Iridium on the other hand, is basically a VST in a box. No sound character at all. Very thin and lifeless sound.
Dream machine! Such a distinct, beautiful sound. Nothing quite like it out there.
Thanks for the video! Same 24 voices, same four independent 6 voice synthesizers, same analog filters, same poly after-touch and MPE functionality, same eight outputs, and of course the same sound as the keyboard, just a smaller form factor.
No potential heat issues on the electronics in the future, with the smaller form with less airflow? I would love the keys, but with quite a few out-of-town/country gigs this might be better.
@@raulmitra3531 We have been testing since the late summer. Because the power supply is external, we have had no problems. I absolutely love the keyboard, and would say it is slightly easier to use due to a few more controls. But, if you need the exact same sound in s smaller form factor, this is your synthesizer. And no, you will not find menu diving, just a couple of areas to consolidate the controls and still keep everything as knob per function as possible.
I thought the keyboard version doesn’t have poly after touch
You don't have to worry over overheating because of the space difference. The only thing I worry over is if I would miss the keyboard version ;)@@raulmitra3531
Sounds gorgeous Bob, you've done great work there - just ordered a desktop. I would imagine it will replace my Microwave A soon!
That first sequence is very catchy and sounds great. I was listening to a Moog One warm lead patch on one You Tube channel and the next video that came up was a very similar patch being played on the 3rd Wave. The 3rd wave filters had its lead sound matching the moog one filtered warm sound very closely. The wave tables are really good but the virtual analog/analog filters are are a great sound on the 3rd wave from samples I have heard.
Tthat so expensive machine sounds so gooooood !
Great demo !
Ohh boy that supersaw of the intro….😮
If I had one complaint about this, it's that I wish they had just made the damn thing a 1/2" narrower so that you could rack mount it, similar to a deckard's dream.
Intresting, I would never rack a synth I want close by, seems exhausting to keep my hands high, maybe will be better with these angled sidecars? still looks too far, but if it's really just half an inch it does seem like they miss an opportunity for whoever does, maybe if you mostly use an editor.
That’s what she said
Does anyone have a reference track to a well known song that has 3rd wave on it, I want to hear it in a mix too. Thanks for the demo.
Sounds great. Rich. Full.
Not a word of a lie, I made a very similar track 14:20 on my UDO Super 6, and I am sending that back due to the fact it appears it's all it can do.
I am replacing it with funnily enough a 3rd Wave desktop.
I just find the 3rd Wave far more enticing, the S6 is a great synth, just that I am not buying something that does the same same over and over..
Binaural is good, up to a point, then it just becomes tedious imo.
I just love the fact that the 3rd Wave is 4 synths in one.
Thx for the upload.
3:40 The Cure - A Forest vibes right there!!!
I just checked the original recording of the Cure again, album published in April 1980, probably recorded in later 1979, the intro doesn't sound like an analogue synth, but the first commercially available PPG 2 wasn't released before 1981 - maybe a Wolfgang Palm prototype? Probably not, because Cure at that time weren't exactly famous or rich....
@@bernios3446 You have to be joking... The 3rd Wave didn't exist then I'm obviously talking about musical similarities of that demo snippet. If you've bothered to listen to the song you'd know. It's a comment acknowledging the breath of the 3rd Wave. The Cure uses both guitars and synths. You think you've cracked the case that their sound lacks an analogue? But might be a Wolfgang? Huh? What an assinine endeavor, lot's of things can sound like lots of other things, that is the whole point.
@@UberOcelot I obviously am aware of that, I thought you might suggest that they used an early Wolfgang Palm synth - the basic wavetables stayed the same since the first PPG Wave from the early 80ies - many musicians used to test early prototypes of the manufacturers-, like the old drum machines - some were even custom built for musicians and then released in series....
@@bernios3446 I certainly wasn't suggesting they used a Wolfgang or any PPG synth. Maybe they leveraged a similar waveform loaded into a performance workstation as they play live, but I would see no evidence to suggest it's Wave lineage. The similarities are mostly down to composition here, and if anything synth playing evocative of that time draws from a particular pallet of theory. But I'm sure there are answers out there to how that song was recorded.
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▶ Demo video by Limbic Bits: th-cam.com/users/LimbicBits
Hearing this, it really tells you that the PPG plugin never did the hardware even remote justice. So tinny and weak. This is a beast.
When pressing ENV 3 or ENV 4 button. Will the corresponding row Filter Env and Amp envelope knobs act as ADSR knobs for ENV 3 and ENV 4? And also the encoders on the screen will act as a dialer for them?
I have a kodamo essence fm mk2 500 voice polyphony bought for 1000$. I only wanted this 3rd wave for the original ppg wave forms and the sq-80 waveforms and maybe prophet vector vs. waveforms is it even worth it.
Well, now I hear that all these analog filters, when put together, start to sound muddy and the overall mix becomes dirty. The low end is powerful, but also very muddy.
Excuse my ignorance, but the keyboard has a prominent Wave Surfer knob, which doesn’t appear on the module. Does that make a difference? Is it still exactly the same synth?
It appears on the module, in the second row below the display. And yes, it is the same synth engine but with less encoders etc.
Thanks, much appreciated!
Juicy goodness!🧃
Is it the demos? It sounds all mellow-mellow to me. Does it have real bite?
Let those resonances sing, zap and growl!
I think I prefer the Waldorf M.
Quel son !
that first sequence is "almost" what song? Ahh it's gonna bug me
Doesn't look like rackmount is possible, is it?
Nope. It’s too wide.
This is not a synth. It's a portal. 🗿🗿🗿
How does this compare to an Access Virus? What are you getting for the extra $?
Nice video! A good sounding synth…. but I prefer the Waldorf Iridium: Half the price, Wavetable + FM + Granular + VA and a better screen. Sounds also good
Quantum is the fair comparison, given they both have the analog filter per voice.
I find the Iridium to sound small and congested... which is too bad b/c it's a powerhouse!
@@ericpeters0n The Iridium can sounding small and frosty…. but also big, warm and analog
And buy a poly AT midi keyboard.👍
It's hard to see $4000 of value here.
Did you try squinting your eyes?😂
“You shut your damned mouth!!” - 3rd Wave
It's $3495 for this desktop unit. What other synth offers quad-timbral architecture and 24 voices with analog filters? 3rd Wave has 24 x SSI-2140 "Prophet" VCF filters, plus a second digital state variable filter per voice. Also, several different oscillator architectures: classic PPG, modern high def wavetables, Prophet VS Waves (new), plus classic analog subtractive waveforms. It's not cheap, but this is a high end flagship synth.
What! Lmao
@@CreativeSpiral I wonder what the tax is looking like? Yeah, It doesn't look like a $4000 unit at all. I can do way more with Phase Plant and a $100 midi controller. total: $200. I get the analog filter and blah, blah but come on..
8 voice for $2500 would be nice.
Monotimbral 8 voice would fly off the shelves
Ma suonarla con una 5 ottave con tasti normali no ? Bah
I wouldn't buy this $3,500 desktop module to use a cheap controller like that. You should get a fully polyphonic aftertouch controller with at least 61 keys or more + preferably MPE since 3rd Wave now supports it.
Desktop modules are also intended for the studio, not just for keyboardists.
A good tradesman never blames his tools, doesn't matter how good something is, it doesn't make your skill set any better.
So your "bare minimum" means nothing to a lot of people.
😴
A 24 voice polysynths demo with a three octave mini keys thing. Shite.
and he can't play for toffey
4000 only for a vst sounding crap? no thanks
I honestly don’t know of any vst that sounds like this. This thing is really deep and sounds thick.
@@2ammusik lol so many high quality wave instruments which can put this crap to shame, Serum and its vast wavetables and programming, Arturia Sq80, Pigments, Hive, Massive , Opal all of them can outperform this overpriced shit
@@davemaverick8438 those can outperform it yes, many VSTs can. I agree there. But when it comes to sound quality on a hardware synth, the 3rd Wave is going to beat it. The Iridium on the other hand, is basically a VST in a box. No sound character at all. Very thin and lifeless sound.
Talkin smack cuz you can't afford it 😂
@@adoss7273 mostly noobs reply who tell difference by the price they paid