Feel free to ask me anything in the comment section :D Timestamps 0:00 Team composition 0:08 First Half 1st wave 0:53 First Half 2nd wave 2:34 First Half 3rd wave 5:26 Second Half 1st wave 7:04 Second Half 2nd wave 10:35 Second Half 3rd wave 15:55 Characters & Stats showcase
@@galihfebrianyusuf1419 until there's an enemy who penetrate def, yes def is more efficient than hp (easier to shield & heal) except for healer or attacker who scale with hp. No need to be stressed on these hp & def thing! Just use whatever you have the better substat/relic quality :D
Honestly the hardest thing about this game is getting good relics, if it wasn't for that, this would be alot easier to achieve, thanks for the video though!
Relics in this game are so hard to get compare to genshin but they are focus on buffing your raw stats instead of %dmg and ultilities in genshin, so you should get as much as raw stats you have with your off set, no need to complete the 4 pieces
My blade can run 77/212 crit rate/crit dmg and 6k5 hp with 4 off set pieces, i don’t want to spend time and resourses to get a 4 pieces which buff me 16% crit rate and 12% hp, just basically raw stats
@@thangpham4176yep and idk why im build 3k attack and speed on preservation trailblazer and end up dealing second highest damage together with my dan heng lol.
A great run with great explaination! the synergy between yukong and sushang is pretty dope! even if u cant manage to perfectly speed tune them, using sushangs ult will still guarante to get her a bowstring buff and if u speedtune them both that sushang goes after yukong, you get both bowstring buffs! unfortunately dont have sushang yet and dont want to risk getting blade, with my 100% guarantee for kafka ^^
Kafka believer with become kafka owner! Thank you for your compliment :D and yes, Sushang has a good synergy with yukong even you cannot speed tune her, but If you can then the synergy goes much higher!
@@RuriGoko if i go for kafka, depends tho if she also works on non dot teams. because im more of a fu xuan simp and im a qingque main. so mono quantum is for me more important ^^
This is very helpful! Really appreciate the narration mid-battle. I'm currently stuck with 26*, so Im gonna reevaluate my rotation after watching this video. I sub-ed!
If you build March well, she capable or protecting your team as her path is preservation. She is the most potential 4* if you are f2p, could keep your team alive like a healer plus decent break effect and crowd control, what else we could ask for more. Well, Pela and Yukong are good too.
i've been trying a similar team, using jin yuan instead of serval, it's a bit harder to deal with the initial breaks cuz of the huge amount of energy he needs when compared to serval, but it's still quite viable
THAT WAS SO GOOD LIKE WOW people play without a healer and here I use bailu with her 5 star light cone and I'm still afraid when I'm fighting mommy kafka that she'll squeeze me to death..😔
Very impressive! I have a few questions - I've 3-starred all the floors but am struggling pretty badly on floor 10. What trace levels would you leave characters at? I currently have my DPSes at 6/8/8 and supports around 4-6, would you recommend bringing them higher? Also, would you recommend a high-invested on-type character, or a low-invested off-type character for weakness break? For example, I'm running Seele first half but struggling to break the Decaying Shadows. Would it be worth it to build Serval, or maybe Sushang for weakness break on the second half? (They're both at 50 so it wouldn't be building from scratch, but still a lot of effort.)
Sorry for super slow reply, 1. I would up my DPS to 8/8/8 (depend on character, e.g. kafka really need her ult at 10) after that I would pour all the resource to the staple harmony character (9/9/9 Tingyun 9/x/9 asta 9/9/9 Yukong - you get the idea) those support when maxed out can carry your whole account to the new level, even without the best relic set. 2. It depends on what DPS do you use, for Ex. Seele, Clara, DHIL is a really strong brute force unit - they can work decently without weakness break, While the other DPS; not so much. I would recommend finding 0 turn video for reference, If that DPS can 0 turn MoC at low eidolon without weakness break / SW , they're most likely be able to brute force those content with proper team setup also!
Love your achievements! Glad to see m7 solo tank I always team comp m7 without healer in MoC and retry quite a lot😂 In the beginning I was wondering how you got so many Lv80 characters. Did you get those EXPs from daily farming or invest most of your trailblazer powers on them?
Thank you for watching mate! Well I'm kinda a content creator so I spend most of my trailblazer power to farm those Character up! As you can see I don't have that much relic and that is why.
Note that I'm pretty familiar with how turn based game is working, plus I know about each enemy speed so, I was doing it with bronya instead of yukong for 2-3 tries. For the video's team it took 2 tries and it's done! (If I reset for a completely perfect run it would take 1-2 less cycle.)
Nope, letting him summon the minion is much better, since he lose some HP when he's summoning minion, plus Sushang can utilize minion break to speed up herself too! (If I don't let him summon minion he'll have around 20k hp left after my sushang dmg ran out, and I'll have to wait for new burst cycle to kill him which can cost me 1-2 more cycle) Only time when you want to stop him from summoning minion is when you have a survivability issue, or you dont have any buff removal, or you play welt dps.
Wow did not know that he's wasting hp when summoning minion Then letting him summon minion's is much more profitable really Great job again! Thank you for reply
They are pretty strong, but not as strong as on-type 5* unit tho (e.g blade luocha silverwolf seele clara ; these unit wiuld perform much better with lower gear requirement)
A dead tingyun cannot buff lol. Actually with this perfect control type of team, you can go more atk. But if something break out of my control and hit tingyun (with no def) she's pretty much dead.
Noteworthy: Tingyun doesn't actually need that much atk%, despite the fact that she scales off of it. I'll break it down for reference, but the TLDR is: This Tingyun is already buffing at her max capacity barring raising her skill level. - Tingyun's buff is gated by two things. The first one is her own attack. Tingyun caps her buff at a percentage of her current attack. In this case, Tingyun's attack, with this build, is 1734. At skill level 9, Tingyun's self imposed cap would be 23.75% of that, for a total of 411.8 attack buffed. - However, if we take Asta's buff into consideration, 5 stacks of lvl 10 Astronometry means an additional 70% of her base attack (in other words, it's TY's base attack, 857, plus 70% of that, plus the 877 from artifacts). This totals to around 2333 attack for Tingyun, making her buff cap 554 instead. - And then, the other limiting factor, the attack stat for the character that receives the buff. In this case, since Tingyun's skill is at level 9, she is buffing Serval for around 47% of her base attack (different from current, because it only includes attack from levels gained + light cone equipped). At Serval lvl 80 + Geniuses' Respite lvl 80, this is 1128 attack. So, Serval herself limits the buff to a total of 528.75. - What we conclude from all this is that, without Asta's buff, Tingyun was still buffing Serval for around 80% of her full capacity. With Asta, she had enough attack to spare a full capacity buff for Serval. The literal only way Tingyun could have buffed Serval further would have been having a skill at level 10 or 12. So, yeah, Tingyun doesn't need that much attack to shine, she's basically well off with main pieces with tank stats. As a fun detail, some people have made calculations for this. At skill lvl 10, with a Jing Yuan lvl 80 + signature light cone, Tingyun would need around 2560 current attack to make a full buff of 640 for him. Which can be achieved with atk% on the body, plus an orb, plus atk% on the Musketeer set, and maybe a couple of substats. Put Asta in there just for fun, and the atk% requirement is even lower.
This is just to show you how much gacha do I have to go for a single 5* lmao. You'll eventually get these lc sooner or later, some of them are free also (past and future is a free lc, can be bought in forgotten hall shop) some can be replace with free lc (GR is 2% stronger than breakfast) Tingyun can use BP LC. It's 3 month into the game mate haha.
@@amielies81 Ahh you can use meshing cog if you run out of lc lol. Even a second copy of past and future works great here. Serval can function starting from E0, she shine more at E2 which is not hard to get, considering you get 1 free copy from game, can buy 1 from shop. Tingyun is functionable at E0 Asta need around E2+ to be decent (and you get 1 free copy also) E4 to be extremely strong. MC... she's free, I even run a wrong path lc for her. Sushang need E1 to function well, which you'll get 1 free copy on next patch. Herta's hunt LC works fine considering you can S5 it for free also. March7th.. E0 with preservation LC and you're done. 3* lc named defense actually works much better than this. Pela need no eidolon to function also. You can use silverwolf event LC which is free and function more consistence than non s5 4* gacha lc. You get 1 free yukong and she can works at E0. All you have to do is E before sushang ult and hit skill. The whole point is even a low eidolon team, if you can build exactly like mine, can also pass this moc fairly consistence. It would take 4-5 more cycle for sure, plus you might have to retry here and there, but that's still in the 3* scope. Even a 2* clear is impressive if you can do it imo. Plus I will never claim my run as f2p, but the way I played should be able to give people a rough idea on how this moc rotation works, and how to adapt it with their own account.
Beautiful performance as always but I'm curios. Why everyone get the quantum 4pc set? Just for the defense debuff? Is it worth it? I mean, is it better than 4pc physical set for Soushang and 4pc lightning for serval? Just an example
Most of my resource goes into character trace and level. So I need a relic set that can go everywhere Plus My first dps is Clara, Qingque, Seele. So the Quantum domain is the best for me. Of course the 4pc physical would be better for Sushang, 4pc lightning woudl be better for serval, but power is limited mate :-:
So its only has 227 speed. E6 yukong come in clutch. Sushang is quite good match with yukong, but i still dont know how much speed breakpoint needed as SUShang and pela has self speed buff so that it doesnt break the turn order fpr non e6 yukong
You can see that I break pela and yukong speed gap by a bit, and that's the reason why haha. Ideally you can do it 2 ways, make yukong 1 speed faster than your dps, or make yukong 3-4 speed slower than all of your support, this way unless the fight dragged out too much or enemy has AV manipulation attack, yukong will always move just before your dps move!
something im bothered with is that even if a character finishes their attack, their turn wont end unless the next character/enemy starts their turn it happened in 12:45 - even though sushang finished her attack, the buff from yukong's ult ran out after sushang's ult and BEFORE her advanced forward turn so her enhanced skill didnt get the buff(since buff timers update when a character's turn ends) its kinda misleading since you intuitively think that a character's turn ends after they finish a move, not when the next character takes their turn. its a minor inconvenience that isnt really felt most of the time but it complicates the buffs given by bonus actions like ults.
It has pros tho, which make most 1 turn buff apply to most ultimate. And for Yukong e6 and Sushang, to make it works he should use Yukong Ult and Sushang Ult during enemies turn. So both sushang ult and skill will still have the buff.
That one is kinda bad on me, and prop to your keen observation to notice that! It has pros and cons with this mechanic. Actually the best way to do that combo is to let the enemy move first, then I ult with yukong -> sushang ult. This way her advanced forwarded turns will still have yukong's buff! And yeah it is a minor inconveniece that player doesn't feel it, same practice is with clara ultimate, if you ult in turn the taunt buff actually ran out really fast due to the same property ;-;
Welt would work great here! You just need to change the playstyle by a bit. Instead of letting shapeshifter summon the soldier, you instead use welt ult to interrupt him , thus fewer target on the field which enable welt to deals more damage!
Nope, himeko is actually an upgrade in this rotation. She would clear faster (I'd say 2-3 cycle with proper gear, and you can even go 0 turn with E0 himeko if you know what you're doing)
Sushang and serval for the true experience, i liked the comments and the thoughts here and there too xD For when u ulted with yukong to not loose the cycle i think that was the correct move
That second team is almost the exact same as mine! (Other than welt instead of sushang) Also, huge thanks for your tips last time :> Do you have any Yukong build tips? Is an Atk body piece better? Given she gives so much cv from her ultimate
Glad I was able to help! Yukong is a really squishy support imo, if you want to run her with more offensive stat you might need to lvl her and her lc up to 80/80 otherwise something might one shot her.. About the body piece, if you can reach 50% cr without crit body then it's ok to run atk body, otherwise stick with crit rate is better.
It works on every character regardless of their damage type, 10% ignore def if enemy has no quantum weakness, 20% ignore def if enemy has quantum weakness.
Not sure about her bis set (since quantum is the only relic domain I farmed) but I think that should be factored it as well (since first half has a lot of quantum weakness -> 20% def pen)
You can check out the team synergy and build first imo. MoC 1-5 should on the brute force-able side if you want to clear floor 8-10. I suggest you identify your team's problem first! (Are you dying?, ran out of skill point?, your dps is always scratching the enemy and not doing damage?, etc) then farm according to that!
If you’ve unlocked the Xianzhou Luofu, I’d recommend pre-farming for Imbibitor Lunae, who’s coming out in 1.3. If you haven’t, then start building Qingque, she’s probably one of the best dpses in the game as of right now
Firstly, you can focus your resource on those 4 first, make them strong enough to be able to farm anything in this game then you can read below. This question will have a looooooong answer, and question from me too. 1. What is you aim in this game? (Clear MoC asap, 0 turn MoC, don't care about hard content and play for fun, only play with you fav, love big number, etc.) If you don't care about moc, those 4 character can go everywhere easily, so you can just play with whoever you like. If you care about MoC however, 2. Is your support is ready? (Asta, tingyun, pela, bronya if you have her) if not, build those unit first. Harmony character is really a staple in this game. A maxed out harmony character can boost your dps much more than you think. If you already build those; next is your dps. Any strong universal dps can works here (e.g. seele, qingque, imbibitor lunae, clara, sushang) the best way is to check the MoC weakness, then build you dps according to that. After that if you are dying then march7th is a good unit to build, natasha is still good; but if you're gonna pull for newer abundance/preservation character then you can focus on those unit instead.
@@RuriGoko My 4 main are kinda ok already , can run almost any materials and relic materials bosses , weekly bosses already .My aim is to 3 stars all the MoC floors , I dont have Bronya and currently I have Asta, tingyun, pela all at level 60 should I level them up to level 80 ?? Oh and for the 2nd dps I have Clara at level 70 with lv60 lightcone Also is Kafka a must pull or should I wait for different dps from 1.3 patch ?
@@nibabyluvriu asta and tingyun should be at least 70/80 for tankiness and A6 passive, pela can leave at 70/70. Clara is a powerhorse in this MoC rotation so 80/80 her and her LC won't hurt! Kafka pull value is really high imo, if you don't have any plan to go for other character she's good. Remember that no specific character is a must in this game, so if you don't like her playstyle you can skip her. Personally I'll pull her, so you can wait for my gameplay before deciding if you want!
I hope one day hsr have the option to turn off eidolon / superimposition, so I can show how to play with that while still enjoying with the game. I mean I can do 2nd account with all E0 4* char but I still have my job so...
Bruh ur main dps has lesser stats than my 5 star dps, and your supports are also not max lvled. But why did i struggle in MOC? Skill issue i guess? Lmao😂
Maybe it's a turn order, speed, and team composition problem bro, for ex. If I switch out Asta and put random 5* in (for ex, luocha/ seele) the fight would not be as smooth as you've saw in the video, second half if I switch march7th out and put natasha in, the fight would be more rng / takes longer as well! Finding alternative team composition from what you have, that works best against the enemy lineup is the key! Hope this help! And thanks for watching :D
@@RuriGoko damn i never think about those little detail like m7 aggro etc. Guess i gotta get rid of my oonga boonga playstyle then😅 Thanks it helps alot sub+1 h3h3
Unfortunately Its not a true 4 star challenge. Absolutly NOT ftp account - your countless lvl 15 arts arouse great suspicion. It's easy to show class with such a large amount of donation to artifacts and most of 4 star weapons - and it doesn't matter who the team is and how to play in it - artifacts and weapons do everything in battle. Little use and help for ftp players. Waste of time (
If my tips and trick on this video cannot reach you, I'm sorry. Not being and F2P is the reason why I try to finish earlier than 20 cycle (so If you can rotate your unit like me but just lacks damage, you still have 8 cycle in your bag to make up for it) Firstly, I never claimed that I am f2p ( what f2p have E6 silverwolf lol ) About the relic, all of my day 1 friends who is f2p / bp+welkin player actually have around the same +15 relic as me. The key is to NOT throw your gold relic into the strongbox (that system which you can salvage 10 gold relic and craft 1) and feed the gold relic into your potential +9 to +12 relic and make it +15. You can try it for yourself and you'll see much faster progression. And I think you saw my box. I dont even have any other relic set aside from quantum set, just because it is the most efficient relic dungeon in the time. I hope one day hsr have the option to turn off eidolon / superimposition, so I can show how to play with that while still enjoying with the game. I mean I can do 2nd account with all E0 4* char but I still have my job so... I think I already explained about the weapon and the alternative in the video
@RuriGoko you good bro. I always treat them a 4 star bcs of how their base stats and leveling up cost the same with other 4 star gacha, so clearly they are treated as a 4 star unit by hoyo
If you could use bronya for your second team, would you replace one of the character with her or she wouldn't bring a lot of value ? I'm asking since I'm new to the game and I'm currently running bronya sushang serval and march and I'm not too sure whether I should try to copy your team or not (I already have pela just missing yukong that I'll get for free eventually)
I would replace yukong for bronya, I'll change my sushang's boot to atk as well since I have a really fast bronya (167 speed) I can do EAEA rotation and pull sushang up really efficiently! This way I get a faster clear, more point for M7 and pela just in case bad rng happen!
About copying my team, the key is effect hit rate check on march7th (have that ideal number on stat showcase) and pela & march 7th speed! If you have luocha, The run would be much easier with him. Note that sushang is not the best unit in 2nd half due to shapeshifter doesn't weak to physical. But you can try if your sushang is well built enough. (E1 is enough)
![[HSR] : NEW 1.5 Memory of Chaos Floor 10 - NO 5 STAR NO HEALER | Sushang, Luka & Qingque 3* Clear!!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lQa7jWKPrTQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[HSR] : NEW 1.5 Memory of Chaos Floor 10 - NO 5 STAR NO HEALER | Sushang, Luka & Qingque 3* Clear!!](/img/tr.png)
![MOZE MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE | 4 STAR ONLY | MOC 12 [2.4] | Honkai Star Rail](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/flzsyPv3M8k/mqdefault.jpg)
Feel free to ask me anything in the comment section :D
Timestamps
0:00 Team composition
0:08 First Half 1st wave
0:53 First Half 2nd wave
2:34 First Half 3rd wave
5:26 Second Half 1st wave
7:04 Second Half 2nd wave
10:35 Second Half 3rd wave
15:55 Characters & Stats showcase
I wanna ask something for survive is deff stats better than HP?
@@galihfebrianyusuf1419 until there's an enemy who penetrate def, yes def is more efficient than hp (easier to shield & heal) except for healer or attacker who scale with hp.
No need to be stressed on these hp & def thing! Just use whatever you have the better substat/relic quality :D
@@RuriGoko my tingyun use HP one and cant survive on moc 10
@@galihfebrianyusuf1419 may I have your rough stat? (Hp def speed, plus your healer / tanker hp def speed)
Did u clear 6 MOC without 5* characters tho?
i like how every step is carefully broken down, makes me realize how strategy can really be so important in this game. good run wp!
Glad you like the video! And thank you for watching mate :D
Honestly the hardest thing about this game is getting good relics, if it wasn't for that, this would be alot easier to achieve, thanks for the video though!
I'd say my relic luck is much better than genshin's artifact... still cannot get desert set for my faruzan sadge
Relics in this game are so hard to get compare to genshin but they are focus on buffing your raw stats instead of %dmg and ultilities in genshin, so you should get as much as raw stats you have with your off set, no need to complete the 4 pieces
My blade can run 77/212 crit rate/crit dmg and 6k5 hp with 4 off set pieces, i don’t want to spend time and resourses to get a 4 pieces which buff me 16% crit rate and 12% hp, just basically raw stats
Skilled player both in action games as well as turn based, great performance as always.
Or our just suck to get some character or item?
@@thangpham4176yep and idk why im build 3k attack and speed on preservation trailblazer and end up dealing second highest damage together with my dan heng lol.
Hope you like the vid bro :D thank you for your compliment also!
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Well play it however you like is the best way to play the game imo :D
What a beautiful and underrated run! Awesome plays!
Glad you like it bro, Thank you for watching also :D
@@RuriGoko ofc! also 17:55 that rope, I need that, it's so beautiful 😭
A great run with great explaination!
the synergy between yukong and sushang is pretty dope! even if u cant manage to perfectly speed tune them, using sushangs ult will still guarante to get her a bowstring buff and if u speedtune them both that sushang goes after yukong, you get both bowstring buffs! unfortunately dont have sushang yet and dont want to risk getting blade, with my 100% guarantee for kafka ^^
Kafka believer with become kafka owner! Thank you for your compliment :D and yes, Sushang has a good synergy with yukong even you cannot speed tune her, but If you can then the synergy goes much higher!
@@RuriGoko if i go for kafka, depends tho if she also works on non dot teams. because im more of a fu xuan simp and im a qingque main. so mono quantum is for me more important ^^
This is very helpful! Really appreciate the narration mid-battle. I'm currently stuck with 26*, so Im gonna reevaluate my rotation after watching this video. I sub-ed!
Thank you for watching bro!
You are so awesome! I really like your content and wish I could be this skilled someday.
Glad you like it! And thank you for watching also :D
If you build March well, she capable or protecting your team as her path is preservation. She is the most potential 4* if you are f2p, could keep your team alive like a healer plus decent break effect and crowd control, what else we could ask for more. Well, Pela and Yukong are good too.
Very nice and good explanations!
Hope my explanation helps :D
love the run ❤ you also gave commentary that really inspire me (i'm unga boonga player 😂)
Glad you like it mate! Thank you for watching also :D
Nice gameplay and explanation. Thanks
Thanks mate!
"No 5-star"
Stelle: "Am I a joke to you?"
Plz spare me
as always quality content
Thank you for watching and hope you like it mate!
i've been trying a similar team, using jin yuan instead of serval, it's a bit harder to deal with the initial breaks cuz of the huge amount of energy he needs when compared to serval, but it's still quite viable
Jingyuan is good in this rotation, and congratz on your clear mate!
This is just awesome.
Thank you for your compliment mate :D
amazing plays!
THAT WAS SO GOOD LIKE WOW
people play without a healer and here I use bailu with her 5 star light cone and I'm still afraid when I'm fighting mommy kafka that she'll squeeze me to death..😔
Farm more mate haha, you'll get there eventually! Thank you for your compliment tho :D
Very impressive! I have a few questions - I've 3-starred all the floors but am struggling pretty badly on floor 10.
What trace levels would you leave characters at? I currently have my DPSes at 6/8/8 and supports around 4-6, would you recommend bringing them higher?
Also, would you recommend a high-invested on-type character, or a low-invested off-type character for weakness break? For example, I'm running Seele first half but struggling to break the Decaying Shadows. Would it be worth it to build Serval, or maybe Sushang for weakness break on the second half? (They're both at 50 so it wouldn't be building from scratch, but still a lot of effort.)
Sorry for super slow reply,
1. I would up my DPS to 8/8/8 (depend on character, e.g. kafka really need her ult at 10) after that I would pour all the resource to the staple harmony character (9/9/9 Tingyun 9/x/9 asta 9/9/9 Yukong - you get the idea) those support when maxed out can carry your whole account to the new level, even without the best relic set.
2. It depends on what DPS do you use, for Ex. Seele, Clara, DHIL is a really strong brute force unit - they can work decently without weakness break, While the other DPS; not so much.
I would recommend finding 0 turn video for reference, If that DPS can 0 turn MoC at low eidolon without weakness break / SW , they're most likely be able to brute force those content with proper team setup also!
Very impressive as always!
Thank you for your compliment bro :D
Nice quality video as always
Thank you for you compliment !
Your Serval is insane
Serval is rock man hahah :D
Love your achievements!
Glad to see m7 solo tank
I always team comp m7 without healer in MoC and retry quite a lot😂
In the beginning I was wondering how you got so many Lv80 characters. Did you get those EXPs from daily farming or invest most of your trailblazer powers on them?
Thank you for watching mate! Well I'm kinda a content creator so I spend most of my trailblazer power to farm those Character up! As you can see I don't have that much relic and that is why.
great clear!! how many tries did it take you to achieve this rotation?
Note that I'm pretty familiar with how turn based game is working, plus I know about each enemy speed so,
I was doing it with bronya instead of yukong for 2-3 tries. For the video's team it took 2 tries and it's done! (If I reset for a completely perfect run it would take 1-2 less cycle.)
"No 5 Star"
Brings Main Character who is 5 Star*
Impressive run and nice explanation there! Btw question, does ult/ sushang's extra turn trigger yukong's A6?
If yukong buff is still up, yes. Since sushang turn after ult is count as new turn.
@@RuriGoko gotcha. Thanks 👍
Ruri made seele and silver wolf into gods and moved their artifacts over LOL
My seele is sadge tho.
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14:25 Giving Pela's ult between turn 1 and 2 of the boss isn't better? Second turn skip and then burst phase
Anyway great video, well done! ;D
Nope, letting him summon the minion is much better, since he lose some HP when he's summoning minion, plus Sushang can utilize minion break to speed up herself too! (If I don't let him summon minion he'll have around 20k hp left after my sushang dmg ran out, and I'll have to wait for new burst cycle to kill him which can cost me 1-2 more cycle)
Only time when you want to stop him from summoning minion is when you have a survivability issue, or you dont have any buff removal, or you play welt dps.
Wow did not know that he's wasting hp when summoning minion
Then letting him summon minion's is much more profitable really
Great job again! Thank you for reply
I mean, E6 on every 4* is kinda cracked too 😅
They are pretty strong, but not as strong as on-type 5* unit tho (e.g blade luocha silverwolf seele clara ; these unit wiuld perform much better with lower gear requirement)
Bravo, it was so professional 😯 Could you explain why you built your Tingyun with with DEF and not with ATK? As I remember, she scales with ATK?
A dead tingyun cannot buff lol.
Actually with this perfect control type of team, you can go more atk. But if something break out of my control and hit tingyun (with no def) she's pretty much dead.
@@RuriGokois defense better value than Hp or did you just choose defense due to better substats on the relic?
Noteworthy: Tingyun doesn't actually need that much atk%, despite the fact that she scales off of it. I'll break it down for reference, but the TLDR is: This Tingyun is already buffing at her max capacity barring raising her skill level.
- Tingyun's buff is gated by two things. The first one is her own attack. Tingyun caps her buff at a percentage of her current attack. In this case, Tingyun's attack, with this build, is 1734. At skill level 9, Tingyun's self imposed cap would be 23.75% of that, for a total of 411.8 attack buffed.
- However, if we take Asta's buff into consideration, 5 stacks of lvl 10 Astronometry means an additional 70% of her base attack (in other words, it's TY's base attack, 857, plus 70% of that, plus the 877 from artifacts). This totals to around 2333 attack for Tingyun, making her buff cap 554 instead.
- And then, the other limiting factor, the attack stat for the character that receives the buff. In this case, since Tingyun's skill is at level 9, she is buffing Serval for around 47% of her base attack (different from current, because it only includes attack from levels gained + light cone equipped). At Serval lvl 80 + Geniuses' Respite lvl 80, this is 1128 attack. So, Serval herself limits the buff to a total of 528.75.
- What we conclude from all this is that, without Asta's buff, Tingyun was still buffing Serval for around 80% of her full capacity. With Asta, she had enough attack to spare a full capacity buff for Serval. The literal only way Tingyun could have buffed Serval further would have been having a skill at level 10 or 12.
So, yeah, Tingyun doesn't need that much attack to shine, she's basically well off with main pieces with tank stats.
As a fun detail, some people have made calculations for this. At skill lvl 10, with a Jing Yuan lvl 80 + signature light cone, Tingyun would need around 2560 current attack to make a full buff of 640 for him. Which can be achieved with atk% on the body, plus an orb, plus atk% on the Musketeer set, and maybe a couple of substats. Put Asta in there just for fun, and the atk% requirement is even lower.
All E6 S5 dawg it only early game wtf
This is just to show you how much gacha do I have to go for a single 5* lmao. You'll eventually get these lc sooner or later, some of them are free also (past and future is a free lc, can be bought in forgotten hall shop) some can be replace with free lc (GR is 2% stronger than breakfast) Tingyun can use BP LC.
It's 3 month into the game mate haha.
@@RuriGoko bp lc ?
F2p dont spend normie
@@amielies81 Ahh you can use meshing cog if you run out of lc lol. Even a second copy of past and future works great here.
Serval can function starting from E0, she shine more at E2 which is not hard to get, considering you get 1 free copy from game, can buy 1 from shop.
Tingyun is functionable at E0
Asta need around E2+ to be decent (and you get 1 free copy also) E4 to be extremely strong.
MC... she's free, I even run a wrong path lc for her.
Sushang need E1 to function well, which you'll get 1 free copy on next patch. Herta's hunt LC works fine considering you can S5 it for free also.
March7th.. E0 with preservation LC and you're done. 3* lc named defense actually works much better than this.
Pela need no eidolon to function also. You can use silverwolf event LC which is free and function more consistence than non s5 4* gacha lc.
You get 1 free yukong and she can works at E0. All you have to do is E before sushang ult and hit skill.
The whole point is even a low eidolon team, if you can build exactly like mine, can also pass this moc fairly consistence. It would take 4-5 more cycle for sure, plus you might have to retry here and there, but that's still in the 3* scope. Even a 2* clear is impressive if you can do it imo.
Plus I will never claim my run as f2p, but the way I played should be able to give people a rough idea on how this moc rotation works, and how to adapt it with their own account.
@@RuriGoko i clear all the end game content as a f2p anyway
@@amielies81 good job mate :D
damn
Beautiful performance as always but I'm curios. Why everyone get the quantum 4pc set? Just for the defense debuff? Is it worth it? I mean, is it better than 4pc physical set for Soushang and 4pc lightning for serval? Just an example
Most of my resource goes into character trace and level. So I need a relic set that can go everywhere
Plus My first dps is Clara, Qingque, Seele. So the Quantum domain is the best for me.
Of course the 4pc physical would be better for Sushang, 4pc lightning woudl be better for serval, but power is limited mate :-:
More Video about MOC plzzzz
So its only has 227 speed.
E6 yukong come in clutch.
Sushang is quite good match with yukong, but i still dont know how much speed breakpoint needed as SUShang and pela has self speed buff so that it doesnt break the turn order fpr non e6 yukong
You can see that I break pela and yukong speed gap by a bit, and that's the reason why haha.
Ideally you can do it 2 ways, make yukong 1 speed faster than your dps, or make yukong 3-4 speed slower than all of your support, this way unless the fight dragged out too much or enemy has AV manipulation attack, yukong will always move just before your dps move!
something im bothered with is that even if a character finishes their attack, their turn wont end unless the next character/enemy starts their turn
it happened in 12:45 - even though sushang finished her attack, the buff from yukong's ult ran out after sushang's ult and BEFORE her advanced forward turn so her enhanced skill didnt get the buff(since buff timers update when a character's turn ends)
its kinda misleading since you intuitively think that a character's turn ends after they finish a move, not when the next character takes their turn. its a minor inconvenience that isnt really felt most of the time but it complicates the buffs given by bonus actions like ults.
It has pros tho, which make most 1 turn buff apply to most ultimate.
And for Yukong e6 and Sushang, to make it works he should use Yukong Ult and Sushang Ult during enemies turn. So both sushang ult and skill will still have the buff.
That one is kinda bad on me, and prop to your keen observation to notice that!
It has pros and cons with this mechanic. Actually the best way to do that combo is to let the enemy move first, then I ult with yukong -> sushang ult. This way her advanced forwarded turns will still have yukong's buff!
And yeah it is a minor inconveniece that player doesn't feel it, same practice is with clara ultimate, if you ult in turn the taunt buff actually ran out really fast due to the same property ;-;
You are correct on this :D
I always want Asta Light Cone. All I got from the Before Dawn banner is Dan Heng Light Cone S7, and I don't even use it.
Hope you get it soon!
@@RuriGoko 125 rolls on IL banner got 3 aster light cone and 12 Landau's choice 😭😭😭
@@Anothersunnyday81 Hey Landau choice is great on MC!
Good job bro.
Thanks mate! And thank you for watching also!
@@RuriGoko Your welcome!
10:56 Why not Sushang Ult when its ready? Wait for what?
For skill -> Ult (which push sushang av by 100% -> skill combo
heyoo there, will Welt work instead of Yukong? or it will cost too much dps loss for Shang?
Welt would work great here! You just need to change the playstyle by a bit.
Instead of letting shapeshifter summon the soldier, you instead use welt ult to interrupt him , thus fewer target on the field which enable welt to deals more damage!
@@RuriGoko aight tried it but my welt is not built yet for dmg, I'll try it again after I farm some relics tyss
Just curius, u think u can play Himeko in first team or is a BIG downgrade compared to Serval ? ty in advance
Nope, himeko is actually an upgrade in this rotation. She would clear faster (I'd say 2-3 cycle with proper gear, and you can even go 0 turn with E0 himeko if you know what you're doing)
@@RuriGoko Oh ok, ty for the quick reply
Sushang and serval for the true experience, i liked the comments and the thoughts here and there too xD
For when u ulted with yukong to not loose the cycle i think that was the correct move
Glad you love it!
Wow so skilled
Thank you for your compliment :D
8:20 nigasanai
You can't run!
That second team is almost the exact same as mine! (Other than welt instead of sushang)
Also, huge thanks for your tips last time :>
Do you have any Yukong build tips? Is an Atk body piece better? Given she gives so much cv from her ultimate
Glad I was able to help!
Yukong is a really squishy support imo, if you want to run her with more offensive stat you might need to lvl her and her lc up to 80/80 otherwise something might one shot her..
About the body piece, if you can reach 50% cr without crit body then it's ok to run atk body, otherwise stick with crit rate is better.
Tysm for your help again!
noob question but, the quantum set effect of ignoring def% of the enemy only work on quantum units or it works on every caracther?
It works on every character regardless of their damage type, 10% ignore def if enemy has no quantum weakness, 20% ignore def if enemy has quantum weakness.
@@RuriGoko OH OK! thx for informing me
Like all those nots
I only need another 6 months before I reach this level, man.. gachas can be hard
Well probably around 2 months considering how much hsr is giving out to player rn lol.
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Your serval hits like a truck actually, im wondering if quantum set really bursts it
Not sure about her bis set (since quantum is the only relic domain I farmed) but I think that should be factored it as well (since first half has a lot of quantum weakness -> 20% def pen)
moc 9 please with no healer
10 first half can i use serval tingyun asta and bailu? Is fire mc must need?
Bailu can replace fire mc, you can reduce overall team speed too, but expect more retry and more rng death from imprisoning debuff.
How that serval E deal more damage than my seele ultimate that doesnt crit 😂
Haiya that's mean your seele hit hard AF lol
I am still stuck on MoC 3-4* altough I obviously got some good/meta units, My traces are leveled right I assume my gear is just that ass still lmfao
You can check out the team synergy and build first imo. MoC 1-5 should on the brute force-able side if you want to clear floor 8-10.
I suggest you identify your team's problem first! (Are you dying?, ran out of skill point?, your dps is always scratching the enemy and not doing damage?, etc) then farm according to that!
Hi , super new to this game , I already got blade , loucha , silverwolf and fire main char , who should I focus to build next?
If you’ve unlocked the Xianzhou Luofu, I’d recommend pre-farming for Imbibitor Lunae, who’s coming out in 1.3. If you haven’t, then start building Qingque, she’s probably one of the best dpses in the game as of right now
Firstly, you can focus your resource on those 4 first, make them strong enough to be able to farm anything in this game then you can read below.
This question will have a looooooong answer, and question from me too.
1. What is you aim in this game? (Clear MoC asap, 0 turn MoC, don't care about hard content and play for fun, only play with you fav, love big number, etc.) If you don't care about moc, those 4 character can go everywhere easily, so you can just play with whoever you like.
If you care about MoC however,
2. Is your support is ready? (Asta, tingyun, pela, bronya if you have her) if not, build those unit first. Harmony character is really a staple in this game. A maxed out harmony character can boost your dps much more than you think.
If you already build those; next is your dps. Any strong universal dps can works here (e.g. seele, qingque, imbibitor lunae, clara, sushang) the best way is to check the MoC weakness, then build you dps according to that.
After that if you are dying then march7th is a good unit to build, natasha is still good; but if you're gonna pull for newer abundance/preservation character then you can focus on those unit instead.
@@RuriGoko My 4 main are kinda ok already , can run almost any materials and relic materials bosses , weekly bosses already .My aim is to 3 stars all the MoC floors , I dont have Bronya and currently I have Asta, tingyun, pela all at level 60 should I level them up to level 80 ?? Oh and for the 2nd dps I have Clara at level 70 with lv60 lightcone
Also is Kafka a must pull or should I wait for different dps from 1.3 patch ?
@@nibabyluvriu asta and tingyun should be at least 70/80 for tankiness and A6 passive, pela can leave at 70/70. Clara is a powerhorse in this MoC rotation so 80/80 her and her LC won't hurt!
Kafka pull value is really high imo, if you don't have any plan to go for other character she's good. Remember that no specific character is a must in this game, so if you don't like her playstyle you can skip her.
Personally I'll pull her, so you can wait for my gameplay before deciding if you want!
Though trailblazer is a 5* character.. 😅😅😅
Wait how pela can dispell buff????
Pela skill can dispel buff!
Building 10 characters is harder moc10.
nice video, however you have all your E6 characters. I like your combat ingenuity, but you've put down quite a bit of money making the content easier.
I hope one day hsr have the option to turn off eidolon / superimposition, so I can show how to play with that while still enjoying with the game.
I mean I can do 2nd account with all E0 4* char but I still have my job so...
I don't think E0 can do this
UHMMMM Actshually mc is a five star ☝️🤓
Everybody has mc,might as well be a four star
Please spare me on this one T-T.
qingque clear when xD
Qingque need steroid please wait lol.
Easy for team full of E6 SI5 characters most skill was the credit card 😂
Eh.
This MoC is pretty easy compare to previous one.
It is indeed more forgiving than the last MoC, the buff helps player survive a lot (thus being able to deals damage)
Videos like these give me hope
I would love it if you could help me with my account haha
Still not doing it RN haha, You can give rough detail of your acc or screenshot of hoyolab. I might be able to help with that here!
Wait Trailblazer is considered a 5*
Ahh should've name the clip as gacha 5* unit ;-; please spare me on this one.
@@RuriGoko Got'em! No worries. :D
Bruh ur main dps has lesser stats than my 5 star dps, and your supports are also not max lvled. But why did i struggle in MOC?
Skill issue i guess? Lmao😂
Maybe it's a turn order, speed, and team composition problem bro, for ex. If I switch out Asta and put random 5* in (for ex, luocha/ seele) the fight would not be as smooth as you've saw in the video, second half if I switch march7th out and put natasha in, the fight would be more rng / takes longer as well!
Finding alternative team composition from what you have, that works best against the enemy lineup is the key!
Hope this help! And thanks for watching :D
@@RuriGoko damn i never think about those little detail like m7 aggro etc.
Guess i gotta get rid of my oonga boonga playstyle then😅
Thanks it helps alot sub+1 h3h3
technically speaking trailblazer is a 5star but still, respect for beating it with (technically almost) no 5stars
Ahh Guess I should've said "no Gacha 5* unit & LC 😭"
This MoC feels softer than previous one. New buffs are crazy good this and second MoC reset this patch.
Dmg reduction is really good for player who's new to MoC haha. Go get that 3* bro!
Unfortunately Its not a true 4 star challenge. Absolutly NOT ftp account - your countless lvl 15 arts arouse great suspicion. It's easy to show class with such a large amount of donation to artifacts and most of 4 star weapons - and it doesn't matter who the team is and how to play in it - artifacts and weapons do everything in battle. Little use and help for ftp players. Waste of time (
If my tips and trick on this video cannot reach you, I'm sorry.
Not being and F2P is the reason why I try to finish earlier than 20 cycle (so If you can rotate your unit like me but just lacks damage, you still have 8 cycle in your bag to make up for it)
Firstly, I never claimed that I am f2p ( what f2p have E6 silverwolf lol )
About the relic, all of my day 1 friends who is f2p / bp+welkin player actually have around the same +15 relic as me. The key is to NOT throw your gold relic into the strongbox (that system which you can salvage 10 gold relic and craft 1) and feed the gold relic into your potential +9 to +12 relic and make it +15. You can try it for yourself and you'll see much faster progression. And I think you saw my box. I dont even have any other relic set aside from quantum set, just because it is the most efficient relic dungeon in the time.
I hope one day hsr have the option to turn off eidolon / superimposition, so I can show how to play with that while still enjoying with the game.
I mean I can do 2nd account with all E0 4* char but I still have my job so...
I think I already explained about the weapon and the alternative in the video
@@RuriGoko Thank you for the detailed and informative answer, I will get acquainted with your other videos.
Just wanted to rain on your parade and tell you that the MC is actually a five star lol
Haiya please spare on the MC ;-;
Mc Is a 5 star
Ah I should've named the clip as "non gacha 5*" 😭
But MC's a 5*.
I really should've name the clip as "no gacha 5* huh ;-;
@@RuriGoko Only for the few like me that see Mc as a 5* cause of their character cards color.
@@thebadman5817 Well I understand you guys' pov so I'll be more careful next time. This game MC power level is actually really strong.
also you kind of cheated with stelle here since she's a 5 star
Haiya please spare me on this one T^T
@RuriGoko you good bro. I always treat them a 4 star bcs of how their base stats and leveling up cost the same with other 4 star gacha, so clearly they are treated as a 4 star unit by hoyo
@@RuriGokothey are colored gold just to make players feel better
@@fleks4187 a strong 4* indeed haha.
If you could use bronya for your second team, would you replace one of the character with her or she wouldn't bring a lot of value ? I'm asking since I'm new to the game and I'm currently running bronya sushang serval and march and I'm not too sure whether I should try to copy your team or not (I already have pela just missing yukong that I'll get for free eventually)
personally i'd say yukong. she's strong but quite hard to set up, and pela's ability to remove buffs on enemies is tremendously important.
I would replace yukong for bronya, I'll change my sushang's boot to atk as well since I have a really fast bronya (167 speed) I can do EAEA rotation and pull sushang up really efficiently! This way I get a faster clear, more point for M7 and pela just in case bad rng happen!
About copying my team, the key is effect hit rate check on march7th (have that ideal number on stat showcase) and pela & march 7th speed! If you have luocha, The run would be much easier with him. Note that sushang is not the best unit in 2nd half due to shapeshifter doesn't weak to physical. But you can try if your sushang is well built enough. (E1 is enough)
@@RuriGoko Tysm!