@@kiyoslovermangxakieungao8955 I may be late but DSP would throw most smt game out the window... *Especially the Minotaur from smt 4!He wouldn't even last that long*
It took me so long to realize that the reason why Demi-Fiend has four turns despite only having three players is because he completed the Burial Chamber challenge, and thus got an extra turn.
Of course, imagining the Demi-fiend seeing this fight as a random encounter makes this fight hilarious. "Damn, these enemies are new..." [30 minutes later] "This is the worst bonus boss ever why do they have so many healing moves?!"
Canonically, the demifiend is one of the most powerful characters ever to appear in an Atlus game , and the difficulty of the fight reflects that; you'll get curb-stomped unless you have very high level characters, and a well thought out strategy, and even then your victory isn't certain. The battle music for this epic clash? The 'Random Encounter' theme from Nocturne. He's treating your party of high level characters struggling for survival as though they're just another random encounter. He also only uses powers that in Nocturne were mid-tier at best, further supporting that you're just another random encounter for him. In fact, you have to invoke this trope as part of beating him - if you do anything that makes you look like a real threat, such as having any elemental immunities, he'll pull out a nuke spell that one-shots your whole team.
@@cringekid3993 Eh, he’s pretty up there if you ask me. Nanashi is pretty accomplished, but he had an absurd amount of help, though I’d argue Aleph is the strongest.
@@cringekid3993 SMT and Strange Journey protagonist aside, the thing is that Nanashi and Flynn not only needed a great deal of help from each other in defeating YHVH (in addition, they have the help of their partners/Goddess and Satan/Jonathan and Walter), they were also shown to have to demonize and severely weaken YHVH first. So not only was it a collective effort, they also didn’t fight the guy at full power, like Aleph. I definitely don’t think the Demifiend could defeat YHVH on his own, but I’m of the mind that he likely could if he took Nanashi’s place in the party during the final battle against YHVH. That said, Nanashi is also potentially the strongest protagonist at the end of Massacre, I’d say, but there’s a lot of unknowns as far as his newfound godhood.
Sirlionhart said he wanted to see the developers try this boss fight. Well, about that... during the debugging stage of development, even the developers had trouble defeating him. I don't know if they ever even got around to beating demifiend at all.
My boy you will need to do another SMTBS video, i guess it make sense that Demifiend is so dificult after all the bullshit we need to go through SMT Nocturne.
The Asterisks Demi Fiend (with Freikugel and Deadly Fury), Metatron (Fire of Sinai Spam), Beelzebub (with Death Flies and Focus Physical Attack), Raidou (Taunt, Tekisatsu! and Dekunda), Mother Harlot (Status Ailments) and the Uber Pixie (Megidolaon Spam).... xD
Sorry sir lionhart you are just a mere random encounter for Dio XD. Actually demi fiend AI are designed to be as close as player. He have pattern and if you manage to throw him out of his pattern he will adapt and do something that will push you so he can return to his pattern. You need precise tactic to win this fight not just pure luck base
YESSSS ... I've been missing this! ... I will just watch the Hack playthrough when it's finished like I do with Berseria... XD ... I'm awkward like that lol
I didn't think you were going to go through with this but I'm not complaining I'm going to enjoy every second of this Welp better pull out some dr.pepper also I love the idea that we're a normal encounter to Demi over there lol
Pixie had recarmdra I did not know that when i saw Jerome Telos beat demi fiend she just kept wasting her turn when she ran out of MP and never used that skill.
Luke Username Stephen is way easier, he's a "puzzle" boss after all. Demi-Fiend is a luck reliant boss, you must deal with Dormina, Mamudoon, Sakura Rage, Blood Curse, Gates of Hell and Demi Fiend Crits.
you know that dormina before the gaea rages? answer: NULL SLEEP skill (its name isnt right, its not for nulling sleep, it can save you pretty damn good)
Rely on luck No...abuse how the AI works. It prioritizes debuffing you and buffing themselves. So if he kept dekundaing and raganok he would have been fine
What do you call a first turn party wipe Mamudoon then? Also you can’t rely on that if the Demi-fiend gets one too many Crits as this video has shown as you will have to waste your turns getting back up. It is not a well designed boss fight. If you get punished for trying to defend yourself, that is not well thought out. And if you continually need to spend time getting back up because of Mamudoon or those damn Crits, then the fight will drag on, and eventually the demons will use Recarmdra, allowing Demi-fiend getting closer to Gaea Rage. DDS Demi-fiend will go down in MegaTen history as the hardest and worst designed superboss in the franchise. People who say SMT V Demi-fiend is harder have no idea how many dye need to be rolled in order to live in the DDS fight.
I’m here after fighting the Demi-fiend in SMT V. And Good Lord he is so much easier there compared to here. It took me a long time (about 12 hours worth of tries, not counting refusing demons), but I did manage to beat him in SMT V. I have beaten DDS three times in the past decade, and have had made multiple attempts at my victory against the Demi-fiend. However this video encapsulates how BS this fight is and how “not well thought out” this fight is. Luck, should not be an important factor in a fight. Some people may argue that Crits are everywhere in MegaTen games, and I’ll say “Yes, they are.”. But even 1 Crit should not be a deciding factor when the enemy already can deal devastating damage, and on the same team has a party member that slings instant death. I’m so glad the SMT V fight was reworked, and making the fight manageable and doable.
guess that i am too lata, oh well, also in this part when ceilo died he was like "you are supposse to be jamaican and then dodge" how was that would make him evade?
oh yeah you are right, still i laught so hard when all got either mudo or turn to stone, that´s beyond smt bs oh boy i can´t wait for the next top smt bs
I think you need null sleep and someone weak to being put to sleep because after they try to put you to sleep he'll rage n you'll always dodge :D. There might be more to it but I think that how that works.
I wouldn't really call 10,000 as breaking the damage limit. 99,999 is the limit for Devil Survivor 2. I think it's possible to deal 100,000+ in Apocalypse.
When do I get to play demifiend....Demi Fiend used to tell his opponents years ago you don't get a turn cuz I'm scumbag Dio just glad I haven't seen the eye lasers lol
Atlus pitching this fight
"Make the player feel like the random encounter"
A great man dressed in a red sweater had a saying for these type of situations.
"I've been waiting for this."
That same guy:Did you see ya shinji
*Demi Fiend* : This is SMT bs that has surpassed the limits of smt bs and this is to *GO EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!*
*Demi-Fiend* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! *Goes like this for at least more 10 episodes*
Strangely fitting since his ultimate attack is Gaea Rage.
I cant imagine DSP playing this game.
@@kiyoslovermangxakieungao8955
I may be late but DSP would throw most smt game out the window...
*Especially the Minotaur from smt 4!He wouldn't even last that long*
@@someguyparagon5273 I dont know if he can get through Nocturne tutorial even.
that Gaea Rage reaction is just pure gold
"AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!! WHAT? WHAT DID I DO WRONG?!"
The answer: You existed
He doesn't like it when you hit Pixie
@@neonlove5456 damn simp ._.
It took me so long to realize that the reason why Demi-Fiend has four turns despite only having three players is because he completed the Burial Chamber challenge, and thus got an extra turn.
Izanami and izanagi gave him power
dat moment when you realize that you're just a random encounter
demifiend: get the fuck out of here
@@huzai7083 he never say's that.
@ dude, it's a joke
@ the music is for a random fight
Uuuuf!
That the random encounter music is used for this battle just shows how insignificant you are to the Almighty Demi-fiend.
Of course, imagining the Demi-fiend seeing this fight as a random encounter makes this fight hilarious.
"Damn, these enemies are new..."
[30 minutes later]
"This is the worst bonus boss ever why do they have so many healing moves?!"
I mean you are just regular demons in his eyes...
This isn't even the actual demi fiend. That was his solar data. Less than a fraction of the actual demi fiend's power. How f*cked is that?
In the amala network you can see red magasutgi flying in the air, that is in fact the blood and pain of all the player that try this fight.
>Zero MP pixie
>heals 18000 HP
OVER 9KKEKS
37:08 Heat: "MOTHERFUUUUUUUUUCKEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
XDDDDDD
sylwioszekbajki I'm sorry, but that is too funny😂
His death animation as he says that made it funnier XD
Canonically, the demifiend is one of the most powerful characters ever to appear in an Atlus game , and the difficulty of the fight reflects that; you'll get curb-stomped unless you have very high level characters, and a well thought out strategy, and even then your victory isn't certain. The battle music for this epic clash? The 'Random Encounter' theme from Nocturne. He's treating your party of high level characters struggling for survival as though they're just another random encounter. He also only uses powers that in Nocturne were mid-tier at best, further supporting that you're just another random encounter for him. In fact, you have to invoke this trope as part of beating him - if you do anything that makes you look like a real threat, such as having any elemental immunities, he'll pull out a nuke spell that one-shots your whole team.
I mean no demi fiend is on the weaker side of the messiah's
Yes actually. Demi fiend is pretty powerful
@@cringekid3993 Eh, he’s pretty up there if you ask me. Nanashi is pretty accomplished, but he had an absurd amount of help, though I’d argue Aleph is the strongest.
@@Dragon-md4gr Aleph is def the strongest but demi fiend (In TD) scales to lucifer and all the others scale off of YHVH usually
@@cringekid3993 SMT and Strange Journey protagonist aside, the thing is that Nanashi and Flynn not only needed a great deal of help from each other in defeating YHVH (in addition, they have the help of their partners/Goddess and Satan/Jonathan and Walter), they were also shown to have to demonize and severely weaken YHVH first. So not only was it a collective effort, they also didn’t fight the guy at full power, like Aleph. I definitely don’t think the Demifiend could defeat YHVH on his own, but I’m of the mind that he likely could if he took Nanashi’s place in the party during the final battle against YHVH.
That said, Nanashi is also potentially the strongest protagonist at the end of Massacre, I’d say, but there’s a lot of unknowns as far as his newfound godhood.
in rpg's, usually the stat buffs/debuff skills aren't worth a slot, but in atlus games, they are a god send
For example Matador.
@@artofthepossible7329 miss
Real talk, Atlus games are the only games I actually use status buffs and debuffs. They actually feel like they're worth using for me.
@@kira-dk2mxFinal Fantasy xiii was very buff and debuff heavy!
Sirlionhart said he wanted to see the developers try this boss fight. Well, about that... during the debugging stage of development, even the developers had trouble defeating him. I don't know if they ever even got around to beating demifiend at all.
Maybe that's why they didn't give him endgame skills
@@GreenTheGrape Hey Gaia's Rage is an endgame skill.
@@JindraAG and also a 1shot
@@JindraAG but it ain't focused Freikugel
@@thebulat4139 pretty sure Freikugel would just be a single-target instant kill by virtue of sheet damage.
IT BEGINS. THE RETURN OF DIO URAMESHI
Xeros-Beat IT'S ME! DIO!
BIG BOSS 👀
"Beat Demi Fiend in 10 minutes or else I'm hi-jacking the Discord." *LMAO*
I lost it at the Cielo roast
Kaze The Handsome 35:00 ish
THEY ALL DIED
9:50 Demi-Fiend like FUCK YOU! YOU PLAY, WHEN I SAY YOU CAN PLAY!
10:10 Now you can play
35:23 this part made me laugh
The timing is impeccable lol
Demifiend finished the Burial Ground sidequest in the Labyrinth of Amala, got himself an extra press turn~
"That's right, feel the pain of those inferior beings, Asshole!"- Sirlionhart, 2018. SOMEONE'S played tales of Symphonia before.
The demi-fiend was one of the top 20 hardest rpg super bosses I forget what rank and magazine
TheAzuregreen 1st
He ranked 1st. Elizabeth (P3) came 2nd.
BIG BOSS RETURNS???
I just came here to set the rage scream as my ringtone.
Demi-Fiend has the +1 skip-turn from Amala Network bonus in Nocturne. That's so cool! That's why they have 4 total.
10:38 i'm gonna hear it as "eat shit" from now on.
My boy you will need to do another SMTBS video, i guess it make sense that Demifiend is so dificult after all the bullshit we need to go through SMT Nocturne.
The Asterisks Demi Fiend (with Freikugel and Deadly Fury), Metatron (Fire of Sinai Spam), Beelzebub (with Death Flies and Focus Physical Attack), Raidou (Taunt, Tekisatsu! and Dekunda), Mother Harlot (Status Ailments) and the Uber Pixie (Megidolaon Spam).... xD
@@Orbitthemaster Jesus Dude.
Enough salt to melt the snow through out the entire city, but yeah, this fight is beyond ridiculous.
36:53 damn, lion sounds so heartbroken n distraught.
One shoted before the first 5 mitunes yes thats the smt bs i smell.
Lost it at "HE'LL KILL US ALLLLLLLLLLL!"
lol I was laughing the whole video, but Cielo's death really got me. 😆✨ How does this not have more views?
Robert.exe has stopped working.
THIS IS GOLD
I salute you sir, for coming this far despite all the hardship and salt.
Sirloin yelling at Cielo about smoking weed and being Jamaican made no sense but god did it crack my side! xD
Sorry sir lionhart you are just a mere random encounter for Dio XD. Actually demi fiend AI are designed to be as close as player. He have pattern and if you manage to throw him out of his pattern he will adapt and do something that will push you so he can return to his pattern. You need precise tactic to win this fight not just pure luck base
11:55 you joke but that's how it is
Who’s here after the Nintendo mini Direct?
Dat boi got OHKO'd
i have been wondering when is there going te be another top 10 smt bs?
kamudo999 he probably might do smt bs after smt 5. Demi fiend most likely #1
One of the cheapest boss fights in SMT history. Godspeed, Sir!
Sirlionhart: When do I get to play the game demi-Fiend?
Demi-Fiend: you got to play through the game twice to get here.
27:30 YOU GOT SO LUCKY
The Mamudoon at 35:22 lmao
"My dude turned the battlefield into a corridor."
...I'd say it's more like a minefield with the weirdest winding path through it.
This is NG+ Demi-Fiend, he got the secret extra Press Turn.
Not the actual demi fiend. Just his solar data. Less than a fraction of the actual demi fiend's power
I WAS SO HAPPY TO SEE THIS
"hey remember when how much press turn was based on party member, well fuck that"
Ahh Demi-fiend the scare of death and so much salt to a reduce an entire populace to dust.
*Sees Video in subscription box*
.......Shit...
This dudes gonna end up as a meme for the smt community, just watch
As soon as I read the title, I couldn't resist clicking.
YESSSS ... I've been missing this! ... I will just watch the Hack playthrough when it's finished like I do with Berseria... XD
... I'm awkward like that lol
29:42
I felt that one. LOL
I'm glad your actually doing this I'm ready.
This has to be in Top 10 smt bs with lion part 2!
How much you wanna bet this boss was designed by Lucifer himself?
I mean, considering Demi-Fiend's origins, you aren't wrong. Lucifer was the one to give him his power.
"How you dodging almighty"
So...
Can we all agree that demi-fiend may be the toughest boss fight across the Jrpg Multiverse...
I wanna see the game devs playing this too!!
During the debugging stage, they tried to beat him and they couldn’t
@@tibiafibiafie link?
I didn't think you were going to go through with this but I'm not complaining I'm going to enjoy every second of this Welp better pull out some dr.pepper also I love the idea that we're a normal encounter to Demi over there lol
Not gonna lie. I screeched like a little girl when I saw this.
35:17
I gotta support ya you the homie 4 life
39:28 oh god how did I miss this moment
im dying
his scream 😭😭😭
HELL FUCKING YEAH, I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG xD
Pixie had recarmdra I did not know that when i saw Jerome Telos beat demi fiend she just kept wasting her turn when she ran out of MP and never used that skill.
4:37 LOL
Hope he plays Messiahs in the Diamond Realm DLC one day. I wonder which boss he'll find harder? That one or Demi-Fiend?
Luke Username Stephen is way easier, he's a "puzzle" boss after all.
Demi-Fiend is a luck reliant boss, you must deal with Dormina, Mamudoon, Sakura Rage, Blood Curse, Gates of Hell and Demi Fiend Crits.
I can't wait to watch you play Noctrune remastered. XD
He already play nocturne
"Beyond smt bullshit"
That title is the most perfect thing ever. 👌🏽
you know that dormina before the gaea rages?
answer: NULL SLEEP skill (its name isnt right, its not for nulling sleep, it can save you pretty damn good)
Dhiva Prima Adi he knew
Demi fiend lvl 99999999999 with his Pixie spaming megidolaon
Rely on luck
No...abuse how the AI works. It prioritizes debuffing you and buffing themselves. So if he kept dekundaing and raganok he would have been fine
What do you call a first turn party wipe Mamudoon then? Also you can’t rely on that if the Demi-fiend gets one too many Crits as this video has shown as you will have to waste your turns getting back up. It is not a well designed boss fight. If you get punished for trying to defend yourself, that is not well thought out. And if you continually need to spend time getting back up because of Mamudoon or those damn Crits, then the fight will drag on, and eventually the demons will use Recarmdra, allowing Demi-fiend getting closer to Gaea Rage. DDS Demi-fiend will go down in MegaTen history as the hardest and worst designed superboss in the franchise.
People who say SMT V Demi-fiend is harder have no idea how many dye need to be rolled in order to live in the DDS fight.
DIO URAMESHI HAS OVERCOME THE ULTIMATE BS! AND HAS BECOME THE ULTIMATE BS!!!
I’m here after fighting the Demi-fiend in SMT V. And Good Lord he is so much easier there compared to here. It took me a long time (about 12 hours worth of tries, not counting refusing demons), but I did manage to beat him in SMT V. I have beaten DDS three times in the past decade, and have had made multiple attempts at my victory against the Demi-fiend. However this video encapsulates how BS this fight is and how “not well thought out” this fight is. Luck, should not be an important factor in a fight. Some people may argue that Crits are everywhere in MegaTen games, and I’ll say “Yes, they are.”. But even 1 Crit should not be a deciding factor when the enemy already can deal devastating damage, and on the same team has a party member that slings instant death. I’m so glad the SMT V fight was reworked, and making the fight manageable and doable.
FINALLY !!!
About damn time!!!!
i don´t know if someone say this but you can let pixie live till she ran out of mp and then she keeps wastsing turns
kamudo999 he figured it out on stream
guess that i am too lata, oh well, also in this part when ceilo died he was like "you are supposse to be jamaican and then dodge" how was that would make him evade?
kamudo999 dont know he was salty, when the salt is real, are you thinking straight?
oh yeah you are right, still i laught so hard when all got either mudo or turn to stone, that´s beyond smt bs
oh boy i can´t wait for the next top smt bs
Can't wait for DDS2 BS... woot! ... and SMT V some day :D
glaciemdraco hes pretty much done with DDS2 on stream
Oh neat, what is he playing next then? O.o
Can't wait to see his reactions to certain stuff lol :3
glaciemdraco one more stream for DDS2 and he might finish Xenoblade Chronicles 2
I mean, a new game that we don't know he is already playing?
glaciemdraco he haant said anything
I think you need null sleep and someone weak to being put to sleep because after they try to put you to sleep he'll rage n you'll always dodge :D. There might be more to it but I think that how that works.
That's the main strategy.
HE DID IT BOI!!
11:18
What's the titania hallway grind equivalent in DDS2?
I wouldn't really call 10,000 as breaking the damage limit.
99,999 is the limit for Devil Survivor 2. I think it's possible to deal 100,000+ in Apocalypse.
Thats DESU. These games cap at 9,999. So yeah 10000 is breaking the limit.
I don't think it is.
@@crimsonsnow7228 he can do 16k-21k tho he really broke the cap
Differnt game
Looooooooool poor lionhart XD mudo power
Bruh... Im gonna start my first smt on switch im scared as fuck right now
Don't worry this is optional boss maybe the hardest in jrpg. And yeah fun fact that boss will be the main character in your smt
If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying lol
The thumbnail HAHAHA
HE DID IT!?
RunePopz he did it twice
No, not even cheats can beat the demi-fiend.
Only more pain is coming
Oh shit I can definitely watch this i wanna watch dds2 but I never played it lol
Oh shit the classic line you don't like that shit huh
"Crotch Busters" lol
When do I get to play demifiend....Demi Fiend used to tell his opponents years ago you don't get a turn cuz I'm scumbag Dio just glad I haven't seen the eye lasers lol
O.O .. yeah.... i think i'll be just thankful to beat the game and leave it as that :3
Respects for making it that far :3
That stream was so salty
this was hilarious as fuck
rotate some makarakarn in that.