Onboard the Fokker 70 - Alliance Airlines Trip Report from Port Macquarie to Brisbane
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Join me onboard this rare Fokker 70 flown for Virgin Australia by Alliance Airlines in economy class from the upgraded Port Macquaire Airport (PQQ) to Brisbane (BNE). I'll explain the full flight including some technical information as well as some history around this aircraft that had a premature end to its life.
Correction: The F70 is a shortened version of the F100. Sorry about that.
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Aircraft: Fokker Fokker F28-070, VH-QQW
Seat: 14G
Airline: flown by Alliance Airlines, flown and sold by Virgin Australia (VA)
Flight Number: VA
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0:00 intro
0:20 entering Port Macquarie Airport terminal
0:56 arrival of my Fokker 70
1:43 boarding
2:40 my seat
3:26 takeoff
5:43 inflight catering
6:12 landing into Brisbane Airport
The F70 is a shortened version of the F100
Ops did I say the F100 was a stretched 70? :o
@@PaulStewartAviation You said the F70 is a stretched version of the F100 ;) (at 4:25)
@@rossbob239 Ops
@@PaulStewartAviation according to stories from my aircraft maintenance instructor the F70 was a sportplane if you compared to the F100.
@Jonathan Loh no its 70 seats, but you could fit 80/88seats in it.
Australia has always loved Fokkers. Amongst many others, TAA had F27s, East West had F28s, Ansett had F50s and now Alliance has one of the biggest fleets of Fokkers in the world.
When i was a kid, the only commercial plane that goes to my hometown's airport in indonesia are fokker 100, 70, and 50. Needless to say, fokker is my favorite aircraft manufacturer
Loved my flight on the F100. Sandwich, old school seats, very comfy and quirky power changes. Twice as good as the ATR or Dash.
True! Twice as fast too!
Interesting commentary on the Fokker 70 - history and some technical detail. Video footage captured some great scenery below including Stradbroke Island and the Gold Coast. Another great video. Thanks Paul
Glad you enjoyed it
The livery on the Fokkers look awesome!
Great video Paul as always :)
Cheers
Port Macquarie is one of my favourite places in New South Wales !! Lovely spot ! Great to see more flights coming in there over the years and a nice new terminal !! Great review as always Paul and a belated Happy New Year and I am looking forward to more adventures with you in 2020 !!
cheers Craig, HNY to you as well. Yep it's a pretty decent airport!
Thanks for showing me another airplane I never even knew existed.
p.s. that sandwich is still better than you would get on any US domestic flight.
cheers Nicholas. Absolutely - it was perfectly adequate for a short flight.
Nicholas Isola my dad flys that plane
Happy New Year. Great to see a Fokker still in the air, very nice trip. USAir was a large operator of Fokkers in the 1980' and 1990's with the F-28 and F100.
Cheers mate, HNY to you too.
Great show! Love the little Fokkers!
Cheers, glad you enjoyed it
Happy New Year to you, Paul!
I love the view out of the window - Great view!
Thank you for all your videos of 2019 - I am looking forward to those ones of 2020!
Cheers, HNY to you as well.
Another great trip report Paul. Keep it up and here's to a great 2020!
Also, praying for your country and the fires.
cheers mate
Very nice video! I really enjoy watching trip report about rare planes such as Fokker 70 or A310,...
Well-done!
Cheers again my friend. I'm working on a Saab 340B trip report as we speak and it should be out on Friday. :)
@@PaulStewartAviation it's good to know. I look forward to watching your next video about Saab 340B, it's a rare plane too, of course I will watch it :D
Nice video. Nice catch on the plane, great seat too. Happy New Years!
cheers mate. HNY!
While living in Indonesia in the 70's and 80's I flew on the F28's with Garuda regularly. It is probably my favorite narrow body Aircraft.
I sat in one of these to Leonora Mine site. It had about 15 passengers. The take off speed felt RAPID. Seriously fast and you were pushed back into your seat and we were in the air in a matter of seconds.
The Fokker 100 is my preferred airplane. Lovely acoustics, and very smooth ride.
Another great video Paul! Happy new year to you and your family!
cheers mate
Great video Paul! The F70/F100 were really great and comfortable aircraft! I was lucky enough to fly several of them when KLM Cityhopper was still operating them, they will be missed...
Regards,
Brendan
Cheers Brendan
Another great video Paul and I agree with everyone else that the new gopro is fantastic! Happy New Years!
cheers mate
I used to fly F-28s and F-100s as captain, and enjoyed both of them.
Awesome video Paul and a nice Fokker as well. Have a very happy New Year. Safe trips and fast internet upload 😉.
Cheers Marcin
My father flies Fokker 70 + Fokker 100’s and what a coincidence he flies for alliance
He also flew this type of rare aircraft if not THIS aircraft
Happy New Year ! Love your videos Paul
Cheers mate
Awesome video Paul! I’m excited for your next report from Brisbane!
cheers mate. I'm afraid i didn't do one from BNE as it was just a standard QF 738, that wasn't painted in the new liverly (so the wingtips look boring haha). My next video next week will be the Virgin ATR-72 from SYD to PQQ :) (which you can see in the background when I do the intro to this video.
Ah well I’m sure it will be a great video never the less!
cheers
You gotta love the Fokkers!
Sturdy planes!
Very nice video, flying a F70 looks quite fun. Well done Paul, Happy new year!
Cheers, HNY to you as well.
The engine noise is like music to my mind.Fantastic! Super aircraft.
Jet engines make the best music
@@PaulStewartAviation The older the better!
Happy new year! I wish you all the best.
cheers Paul, you too!
Nice review man!
cheers Henry
The F70's did use Reverse Thrust on landing in PMQ . Yep PMQ airport is a terrific facility . Have been backwards & forwards to PMQ for yrs , & was amazed to see how the new terminal has turned out. Its impressive .
Happy New Year Paul! Again great video as allways. And it's true, my king is a great pilot. Greetings from the Netherlands🤗
cheers my friend and HNY to you as well! I flew in a Fokker 50 last weekend so that video should be out in a week or two :)
Paul Stewart i can't wait!
@@loesepoes18 make sure you've subscribed so YT lets you know :)
Paul Stewart i did years ago😄
Loved my F100 flight in May last year from Broome, very comfortable! This flight looked like a very unique experience.
Nice! What were you doing in Broome?
G day Paul,
We use to fly the Fokker 100 to Karratha.
First time on it I didn't know that the AirCon freezes and the sound of it defrosting just after take-off was a bit unnerving, to say the least!!!!
haha yes without an explanation there's a lot of concerning sounds that nervous flyers have to tolerate. The thud of the landing gear folding up gave me a fright the first time!
At around 07:46, did anyone else notice the Alliance hangar in the background with a F70 in Austrian livery and a F100 in Swiss?
Well spotted! :D I believe that Alliance have just bought some more F70s and F100s :)
@@PaulStewartAviation true, KLM, Helvetic, Montenegro airlines and Austrian are one of the suppliers of the Alliance Fokkers nowadays.
Wow, what a lucky plane to fly on. Nice video.
Cheers. I am very lucky :)
Great video paul, Port Macquarie airport reminds me of nelson airport in new zealand. Thanks mate
cheers mate
Thanks for this rare review of Fokker 70.
you're welcome. many more rare aircraft videos on my channel :)
@@PaulStewartAviation I can't wait for your review when Project Sunrise kicks in for real.
I used to fly light aircraft into PMQ, and just before joining the circuit I would fly over my grandmother’s house until she ran out and waved to me. It’s amazing that we have jets flying into Port now.
We used to have Alliance come to my home airport but it was the F100 operating for QantasLink.
Edit: Alliance actually restarted flights to My home airport (Mackay) Not operated for Virgin nor QantasLink it operates into mackay with Unity airways which is Alliances callsign with both F100 and F70 and this particular aircraft came and also the Pink BNCA livery at 8:11 and also the both special livery’s on the F100 such as the southern cross minors livery which mostly flys into Mackay and the First transpacific flight livery.
Where is your home airport? :)
Mackay Queensland north of brisbane
These and Fokker 100's fly in and out of my home airport all the time (YBTL)
Nice one Paul.Happy New Year mate
cheers Yannis
Thanks Paul
Cheers Scotty
Awe Paul. My favorite aircraft. BTW, I've met all the Fokkers...27, 28, 70 and 100.
There is an F28-4000 in a hanger at the old BNE International Terminal (bridge end of runway.) Used by the aviation college to train its students.
Cheers! I've just booked on the F50 for later in the month and can't wait :)
Another great vid. Ta Paul
Cheers Deb
Looks very comfy!
It wasn't bad.
Happy New Year Paul, nice work again here on the F70. I thought Alliance were more oriented to Mining Charters, so interesting to see they have a passenger option too.
Ironic that an aircraft built in 1996 had much needed personal fresh air vents but these days it’s become hit and miss as to whether they’re incorporated in new aircraft. I totally agree with you...controllable fresh air is needed please aircraft manufacturers and airlines.
Absolutely. I was pleasantly surprised to see FJ put them in their new A350 so it seems to be totally up to the airline rather than the aircraft manufacturer.
James yeah I was thinking that
Thanks Paul this is the same aircraft I flew on last week. Yes the interior is a bit dated but for a short flight that's OK I can live with that. I do like the livery though,
Cheers Rex. Yep it's perfectly fine for a short flight. I too love the livery and I was glad to have seen it as I didn't know anything about that race! And I was actually in Adelaide last weekend so I went and filmed the intro to Friday's Jetstar video in front of the Vickeys Vimey! :D
The first jet I ever flew on was an F100! I wish I had the chance to experience a Fokker one last time before they're all gone.
Another great video. Are you going to fly Air North on their Embraer EMB-120 Brasilia and Embraer ERJ-170? Have you done a review of FlyPelican yet?
Cheers Chris. No current bookings with Air North although they are now on my radar after someone suggested them on facebook. No Fly Pelican review bookings yet either.
We flew with the Mailman in a Cessna from Alice springs in 1986. I wonder if they still have it. The 2 major airlines then no longer exist. Ansett and TAA. we flew on Ansett around Australia.
Seems like a very comfortable aircraft. Ideal for short hops, I suppose. One thing I noticed during the landing was a very pleasant LACK of vibrations. Very rare occurrence.
Jah, they are super smooth. Best airplane I have been on.
Nice one Paul. Papua New Guinea's national airline Air Niugini has 8 Fokker 70s in service and 7 Fokker 100s.
Cheers. I didn't realise they fly that many of them?! I wonder if they get them serviced in BNE by Alliance?
@@PaulStewartAviation I believe they do the servicing locally.
A very nice aeroplane, its a darn shame more weren't built. Alliance operated these on charter flights around New Zealand a while back. I caught the type at a number of airports.
It's true. Fokker's engineers did their job but it seems their corporate office didn't...
Thanks for the review Paul. I’m looking forward to trying and reviewing the Alliance Fokkers once these domestic borders open up. What’s your favourite Alliance Fokker route?
I like the F100, nice to see airlines flying Fokker aircraft still.
Absolutely!
Pan Am006 yeah it’s a lovely aircraft
@@harryschrape4847 Oh most certainly.
Its a cool little Fokker
I love your video
Cheers
Seems very similar to the Boeing 717. Thanks for the lesson on the F70, I learned a lot!
Yep I think it was aircraft like the 717 that killed off this aircraft.
@@PaulStewartAviation More like the CRJ and ERJ series that killed it. The 717 was just the last in a long line of DC-9 derivatives, so named because Boeing had recently bought McDonnell Douglas.
07:47 nice to see the ex Austrian Airlines and Helvetic Airways Fokker aircraft there. Especially Helvetic’s Fokker 100 aircraft we're a very common sight in Switzerland once, now they replaced it with more modern Embraer Jets. But it's good to see that their careers are not over yet! 😊
Yep 07:47 is a good timestamp too! :D I believe that Alliance were keen to get as many of those F70s and 100s as they could. It does make you wonder if there would have been a market to re-start production but ah well.
Paul Stewart - I think the competition with Boeing and Airbus would be too big for a new aeroplane in this category, but the ARJ21 would be the closest aeroplane that looks like a Fokker and is still in production.
Hi Paul great videos, love the Fokkers. video camera do you use?
Cheers Bert. I hope you've seen my Fokker 50 video too. Most of this was recorded with a Gopro. :) The zooming bits were with a sony handycam.
Happy new year Paul!! Amazing video once again!! Personally never flew on a Fokker but i might soon! Once again great video!
cheers mate. HNY!
I miss the Fokker 70, KLM used to use it on the and i flew on it many times from Cardiff to Amsterdam!
Yep it's a good aircraft. What did KLM replace them with?
@@PaulStewartAviation the E175
Austrian Airlines had once ca. 20 Fokker 70/100 in their fleet and I travelled a lot cross Europe on these birds. They actually sold a bunch of planes to Alliance a couple of years ago. Looks they are still airborne...
You may have noticed there was an Austrian Fokker in the background when I was mentioning the airbrakes :)
Hi hope you have a safe flight
I did cheers
I have booked a flight on the Fokker 70. What seat would you recommend (Perth to Kalgoorlie so not bothered about noise). Also I have heard that you don’t get to choose your seat until check in, is this true with your experience?
This aircraft or the F100? I didnt think any F70s flew into KGI?
@@PaulStewartAviation Perth has 2 (Fokker 70s) based here and does a 5:25am flight to Kalgoorlie every Thursday
@@PaulStewartAviation I only went on Alliance because Virgin changed my flight from a Fokker 100 to an A320. Also changed an Adelaide flight to a 737-700 from an 800
I find it strange that the engines seem to be fitted so close to the wings of the F70 airplane. In the B717 and a similar Embraer airplane, the engines are at the rear too but quite a little further from the wings. Is it because the F70 is a much shorter airplane than these two i mentioned? i guess.
Awesome Video! LOVED the engine view, and the wing! Happy New Year!
cheers mate. HNY!
Hey Paul just a question, how do you know what plane you’re going on before the flight?
Hey mate, I ask friends at the airlines 😀
Cheers mate have a good one
Also come do a flight to WA
You should try the Fokker 100 of Virgin Australia. Legroom is an absolute dream, so spacious for an only Y-class cabin. I flew with them from Perth to Broome (and back). Was a nice trip, except for the onboard food! 😂
cheers I would be keen too although I'm less excited about flying to the other side of the country haha
Haha, so funny! When I lived in Perth, people there said the same about the east coast! 😂
Happy New year 2020
cheers, you too!
Notice that you said your trip around Australia. It be interesting if you fly Air North and your view`s on the Airline ? I flew Air North many times from Kununurra to Darwin and back again many times never had a problem with the Airline its Great Airline.
Cheers David, no current bookings although I am planning on trying out people like Air North as they have a few rare aircraft. My next trip is off to Olympic Dam in a Fokker 50
Great video as always Paul, though I believe it’s pronounced Vickers Vimy not V’eye’my. 😀
hah cheers
As always a great video Paul. I flew the Fokker F27 and F28 when Horizon Air Lines had them back in the 1980's/1990's but have not had the opportunity to fly the newer planes.
Cheers John
Never flown on one of those Fokkers, but side by side that 100 is a lot longer Fokker than the 70. How fast do those Fokkers go? Even the old Fokkers still look nice, but I'm sure the really old Fokker have already retired in Australia. When I visited Miami, FL last summer I was told there were a lot of old Fokkers down there, having relocated from Canada and the Northern US; however, instead of old Fokkers everywhere, all I saw was Airbus and Boeing. Then again, maybe it was just too hot for all the old Fokkers when I visited...
Earlier in my life, I really wanted to join the Mile High Club and what a better plane to do so than a Fokker. Alas, like many older Fokkers, I'm not able to get up anymore!
Cheers, yep the 100 does look considerably longer
Billy Robert The Fokker 100 is long with more power in the engines to go faster and the Fokker 70 has bigger tanks to go longer and burn less fuel my Dad flys for alliance
I love how on a short flight in Australia you get a sandwich but in business class on delta across the USA you get a small bag of chips. 😑
Thx for the ❤️ it means a lot!!!
That is true - we are well looked after in Australia. BUT, flying is expensive here.
Paul Stewart but is it as expensive as the us?
@@lukemccullough6474 Way more expensive than the USA. Flying is pretty cheap there.
Paul Stewart Wow I thought that our flights where expensive 😅
Jetstar can be cheap. Sometimes as low as 50 AUD for BNE to SYD. Flew Jetstar BNE to DPS for 159 dollars one way.
Nice vid. I used to fly American Airlines F-100s from Austin to Chicago. Very quiet up front. Btw, the message below from "Trap Town NCS" is appearing in comments on multiple videos, sometimes many times within the comments on the same video. Maybe some sort of bot? Not sure how channel owners can get rid of it.
cheers I'll look into it.
My first time in a jet was an American F100 from DFW to Kansas City!
These remind me a little of the BA 1-11’s
This is when? What day was recorded like last year
18th August last year :)
I flew on a Fokker somewhere in the 90's ..
y do u say ingine?? (p.s i'm subbed i just wanna know :)
4:20, you say, the fokker 70 is essentially the stretched fokker 100, btw the 70 is quite a bit shorter than the 100, so its the 100 that is just s stretched fokker 70
Man Paul that's so cool :) what an amazing video loved your review. I Just booked a Flight on the 1965 Convair 580 looking forward to that :). I'll love to try out an F70 someday
Cheers! Nice where is the Convair flight?
@@PaulStewartAviation AKL-WAG
Nice! I was thinking that I need to cross the ditch and get onboard one of those DC3 flights.
@@PaulStewartAviation that's on my agenda to. If I'm not working Art Deco weekend here the DC-3 will be paying a visit to
For two years from 2008 I flew the Turboprops SYD/CBR every Monday morning. I never liked the seats that were level with the propellers (I know, if it went pear shaped, at least you died quickly). But there is nothing like the older plane engines being revved to full power at the end of the runway before they take off. My first flight ever was a DC3 (?) from Essendon Aerodrome in the mid fifties. I only added the last sentence so that I could write Aerodrome! Thanks Paul for yet another informative vid.
Cheers Peter
American Airlines and Canadian had them back in the day. I flew in quite a few of them.
I thought I had heard that they don’t need a tug for F100s when they push back from the gate. They can go in reverse. Anyone ?
Yes they can, did it myself when groundrunning at the Fokker Factory as an engineer.
But airlines are not too fond of doing this, it cost fuel and the jet blast on the apron is not appreciated.
My first time on a jet was an American F100! I remember having no idea Fokker was still around, as the only other one I knew at the time was the Red Baron's triplane from WWI.
Are you going to Egypt, or anywhere in Africa?
I'm afraid not. My next trips are to North and South America (and NZ briefly).
Great Flight report Paul ! Didn't know Alliance Air was still operating both the F100 and the F70
Keep up the great videos
Cheers mate
Love your videos, happy new year from the UK 🎉
cheers mate. HNY!
Hi Paul. That looks like a great route. I flew on an Alliance F100 from BNE to MKY a few years ago and had a similar experience. The airline and aircraft type provides a perfectly adequate service. Happy New Year.
cheers mate HNY!
I guess I’m lucky, I think 8 have flown on a few unique aircraft, and cars.
Cars make me tick, wheel man, driven some booming cars
To know that all the Fokker's that are in operation will one day be retired and Fokker's will be extinct is pretty sad
Why the smoke? Forest fires? I know Australia has had some very big ones lately. By the way, I have also flown on the Fokker round trip from White Plains, NY to Chicago, IL. Powerful aircraft! Certainly reminds me of the DC9!!
Yep forest fires. We've got some pretty bad ones burning at the moment :( I agree - it's a lot like a DC9 :)
Port Macquarie was hit really hard by the fires. You can see all the burnt trees around the airport on departure.
Why did they used flaps for take-off? A Fokker doesn't need that due the powerfull Tay engines. Or has it something to do with the weather?
@@PaulStewartAviation without looks so badass
It’s quite normal to use flaps on takeoff!
@@PaulStewartAviation thats true but with fokkers is it not always. thats just funny, everyone scared in the aircraft about using no flaps
Fair enough 😃 if you like Fokkers, I hope youve seen my F50 video. Cheers
@@PaulStewartAviation lol, i just saw it. If you want a story about the new Fokker manufacturer. Just ask
Great vid thx Paul- I just love flying up/down the eastern seaboard of Oz, but I can bet the lady filmed boarding at 2:08 wouldn't be too happy with that footage lol...
haha :o
i love the fokker
3 - 2 seating arrangement ... obviously the un-balanced weight distribution must be compensated in the design ... any idea where in the design ?
Yeah true. Someone might be able to answer that question?
Not sure why but the 3rd seat runs down the COG of the fuselage
@@ClarkeyAviationHD Good observation, so there is no unbalance at all.
Not sure, but the long-running DC-9/MD-80 series were 3-2 as well, as is the new Bombardier jet that got bought by Airbus. Also lots of Embraers were 2-1, even their smallest turboprop, so I can't imagine it being much of an issue.
American used to fly the F100
Interesting, I didn't realize. that
6:04 flying over paradise point and runaway bay
07:21 I see a butter landing
Great video Again Mate. Definitely lots of smoke up at Port Macquarie, Love the Alliance Livery. Happy New Year. Where do you think you’ll be going on your next flight?
Cheers mate. The next vid will be a VA ATR (next week) followed by an Alliance Fokker 50 :)
Great. I’ll be looking forward to that video