The rabbits who saved many lives
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2023
- Scott Manley, Anna Ploszajski and Bill Sunderland face a question about some true furry friends.
LATERAL is a weekly podcast about interesting questions and even more interesting answers, hosted by Tom Scott. For business enquiries, contestant appearances or question submissions, visit www.lateralcast.com
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HOST: Tom Scott.
QUESTION PRODUCER: David Bodycombe.
RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
EDITED BY: Julie Hassett.
GRAPHICS: Chris Hanel at Support Class. Assistant: Dillon Pentz.
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FORMAT: Pad 26 Limited/Labyrinth Games Ltd.
EXECUTIVE PRODUCERS: David Bodycombe and Tom Scott.
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Did Tom just reach for a mystery biscuits button?
Even when he stopped halfway through "we don't have a my- immediate puns on this podcast"
I'd like to believe he did.
Lookin' forward to *that* moment now. I *love* Citation Needed! Devoured the whole show (all eight seasons) like four times already!😄
One of these days Tom will finally get to utilize the soundboard that's just outside the camera's view...
I miss Citation Needed so much. There’s no reason they couldn’t do it online like Lateral.
By 1944, half the dogs in the region had written a screenplay.
Rolf is fairly certain he's got this perpetual motion thing nearly licked, and he knocked out a four-page response to a one sentence long comment in the Berlin Times' Letters to the Editor section that will really put the guy in his place!
As long as the screenplay is for "Cocaine Shark: The Great White on White", I'm down for it...
As long as the screenplay is for "Cocaine Shark: The Great White on White", I'm down for it...
Now we know how Mark Rober should have really confused that blood hound tracking him!
And now I'm imagining Mark Rober jacked up on coke and it is extremely unnerving...
@@verdatumtoo bad the took down the Nile Red/Mark Rober deepfakes. Because it comes close to what you’re describing.
I feel like "cocaine seagulls" is just Alfred Hitchcock's The Birds
Everyone: let's solve it.
Bill: what if....
I've been hoping that the apparent net-negative contribution of Bill was just me, or maybe a trick of unfortunate editing...
@@ccommack its minor but noticeable imo
"Cocaine Seagulls" would just be a documentary about Florida.
Have you seen their evil beady eyes? They will eat anything. There's a recent video going around of one trying to swallow a squirrel.
1:08 he was tempted to hit the "mystery biscuit" button, wasn't he. I mean, that "oh", that's the "you know what? you earned a biscuit" voice. and then his brain catched up to the fact he doesn't give them anymore
THATS WHAT I FELT TOO
Me reading the title: oh boy I can't wait to hear about heroic rabbits
The question: rabbit blood
😩
I mean, it isn't _wrong,_ is it?
Heroic fishermen. It must have been so terrifying when the nazis came onboard.
Read about this a few years ago. Well done to the Danes.
Congrats and all, but… Where did they find the cocaine?!
@@bertilhatt It was 1943 so maybe like in candy or something
As Tom described the situation the first thing that popped into my head was the old adage, “curiosity killed the cat, and an awful lot of rabbits.”
I actually got this one right away for once, it was a plot point in a Lois Lowry book my class read in elementary school
Oh! Number the Stars!
Same. Our class read this book in 5th grade. Hatchet was better imo, but maybe because I'm a guy haha.
Yeah me too. I guess it wasn't part of the UK school system, but if I remember correctly in the book people put the rabbit blood on the handkerchiefs.
Were you assigned a great deal of texts about cocaine while progressing through elementary school?
Same here!
Very interesting. I'm a Dane, and while I do know that we (that's the national "we", I wasn't personally involved) managed to get most of the Danish Jews to safety, I'd never heard about the cocaine and rabbits' blood before.
Tom needs a mytery biscuits button
I was thinking much more cartoonishly and thought that they were painting either a Nazi flag, Denmark flag, or a bullseye target with the blood and cocaine.
I guessed at 4:30 that was to confused German Sheppard but I didn't know for what kind of cargo . Well done Danish fishermen !
My first thought was weapon smuggling for the resistance movement. The actual answer makes a lot of sense though. Props to the person making subtitles for actually spelling Øresund with an ø!
4:58 the noise that Tom Scott makes lmao
This was one of those odd factoids that I knew I'd heard before, but was struggling to remember right up to the very end. Well done!
It took me a while to figure out that the fishermen weren't fishing, but then I had to figure out what they were smuggling.
I read something not long ago about the "Sewing Circle" that smuggled Jews to safety, so I guessed that bit really early, but it took me way too long to figure out the rest
2 minutes in and my internet search history is embarrassing.
Well done.
Tom's reaction to Anna's pun made me think he was looking for a Mystery Biscuits button, only to realise that Lateral isn't that show!
I love these episodes they're always fun. My immediate thought was to ward off seagulls, less poop on the deck might lead to less slipping, saves lives. Noticing it was denmark, I associated the colours of blood and cocaine with the flag and thought maybe it was something to do with identification, that fell through when I realised it was 1943 and someone else had a notoriously red and white flag. I didn't get the answer before toms hint that ultimately led to the animal in question, but I still have fun playing along every episode!
How do seagulls snort cocaine? They just roll up a bill....
Well this was a pretty easy one to work out, as a Dane. We didn't contribute a lot during the war, but this we can be proud of.
Great Dane vs German Shepherd
No crossing any borders with those fishing boats.
An urban legend from my Air Force days, in the early 80's involved a young airman pouring an ounce of hash oil into a 5 gallon bucket of floor wax and then stripping and waxing the floors. No clue if it's true, but it would confuse drug sniffing dogs and young military people can be extravagant with their newfound income.
My favourite question of the show.
Also, second question I've ever gotten from the beginning. Read this in a WWII book somewhere
If you've read the Lois Lowry book "Number the Stars", you know the answer to this!
I thought this was going to be on the line of the Danish resistance pig but it's much more awesome
I can totally see a seagull smacking it's head onto a table sideways into a pile of cocaine and fly off laughing to steal fries from a kid
This should be a scene in some drug comedy set in Florida. Ideally with a whole flock of seagulls. For the rest of the movie people are randomly swarmed by crazed seagulls.
Wow, this is the first time I actually knew one of these!
I got it fairly quickly for the dog aspect but totally missed the human cargo part till told.
There is a movie about this incident - "The Only Way" (1970) starring Jane Seymour, but I don't recall if they mentioned the rabbit's blood and cocaine. It is on youtube.
Is it just me or was there an earlier Lateral video (like, yesterday or the day before) with the same question, but a different panel and different solve path?
Ah, yes, two products that Danish fishermen are known to always have access to: rabbit blood and cocaine.
My first thought
1:07 - Did Tom just looked for a Mystery Biscuits button right there?
I was awake at 12:08 am when this was uploaded
You left out the most important part: DID IT WORK?
Yes it did, the Danes rescued 7220 out of 7800 Jews in Denmark
Out of 7,800 Danish Jews, 7,220 were successfully evacuated. Plus 686 non-Jewish spouses.
How much of the success is down to rabbits' blood and cocaine is of course hard to determine.
I can guess that it would be effective, yes. The blood would be quite enticing, but the real magic is the cocaine. Apart from the usual effects, it also works as a numbing agent on contact (which is why people rub it on their gums to test purity - high numbness used to pointo high purity, although now it may indicate fentanyl contamination)
Anyway, the cocaine most likely worked to reduce the sensitivity of the dogs' noses! Or make them hard to control and full of energy. Or both!
Those fishermen were so brave. If caught they knew they would be killed.
I remember reading this as a kid.
ok this was a REALLY COOL fact
Am at 0:35 and I think I know this one. First time for that. Now gonna watch rest and see if I have it.
YUP. But no spoiler.
Wouldn't it be really obvious that they've done something to the dogs and therefore are trying to hide something?
Depends how much of it there was. If there's a snowstorm on deck in July, yeah, that'd be obvious. But if it's just a tiny bit, the dogs won't be getting too high off of it, but they'd be working at less than full efficiency, shall we say.
Not necessarily. The fish smell could have been confusing the dogs.
Just make sure you always coat the boat, and have them search your boat a few times while you are not hiding anything. Then if the dogs respond the same way later there is no reason to believe you are hiding anything.
@@peperoni_pepino And these were fishermen too so it's not weird for them to go out to sea on regular basis too and having off smells.
In which we discuss the effects on seagulls and other nefarious animals
When I learnt about these Danish heroes as a kid, this detail was not included
Did it work?
Those were great Danes! One question: where did they get the cocaine?
someone should've told that trick to Mark Rober
1:04 😁 💯
If you publish these highlights before the podcast drops, you could include the next question, but not the answer. Follow that up with a clip saying “for the answer to that question, listen to this week’s episode of lateral!”
I get why Lewis Lowry left out the cocaine but what a detail!
Was so confident the red blood and white cocaine was something to do with the danish flag 🇩🇰
I was thinking it had something to do with the red (blood) and white (cocaine) Danish flag. Guess not.
A seagull would use the tiny mcdonalds spoon from back in the day.
How has nobody made "Crack-En" a movie yet?
Why rabbits though? Also, you'd think that al the fish blood and guts would be more than confusing enough already...
Honestly, the first and only thing that comes to my mind when I hear "Denmark, 1943" is how they've been smuggling Jews out of the Reich, there are a whole bunch of various stories/methods how they've done it. I haven't heard of this one, but I guessed almost instantly.
Not sure where the cocaine comes in, but were the fishermen using the rabbit blood to mislead the Germans with a large red herring?
The cocaine supposedly caused anosmia (can't smell) in dogs.
Not enough attention is being paid to the Kraken vs Nazis concept (with "The Crack-en vs Nazis" as a sequel).
The obvious question then: did it work???
So the German dogs wouldn't find hidden passengers?
I'm guessing they painted the Danish flag on the deck so that airplanes would know they were a neutral ship and not to kill them.
I was wrong and the right answer is so much better.
I feel bad for the dogs
You'd think that would just make the Nazis more suspicious.
I never heard of that.
The Danish fisherman are very famous for smuggling Jews but I always thought they were just pretending to go about their business and the Nazis would either believe them or not check crates etc.
That the sick bastards used dogs while boarding ships and that the Danish were willing to part with their cocaine supplies is new to me.
Initial thoughts: to attract pests/vermin with the blood, and kill them with the cocaine? Maybe as a sterilizer/incapacitator? Could also be a kind of visual detection method for bad fish or disease.
Or simply as an offering to C'thulu to protect their ship ;)
4:10 maybe to poison the fish the was then given to the Nazis
My initial instinct was to ask myself "were there jew-sniffing dogs?"
Did the blood and cocaine worked for its intended purpose?
Maybe? They successfully got tens of thousands of Jewish people out of Denmark to Sweden so something worked.
This must have been very confusing for the dogs, because the Danes managed to get more than 90% of the Danish Jews safely to Sweden in just a couple of weeks. In total less than 1% of Danish Jews were killed by the Germans during the war.
But did it work?
I don't know about the situation on boats, but I know rabbit blood was used for the same reason in other situations and it worked.
I'm fairly confident that if I was a Nazi service animal, that situation would be extremely successful at confusing me.
0:27 it's ww2 it's ww2
Danes were true heroes during the war for saving their Jewish population!
But did it actually succeed??? Tom did not answer that part!
I'm asking in part because Mythbusters and other shows have shown just how talented dogs are and just how hard it is to confuse them.
Many tricks used to work on dogs that don't anymore. It isn't that dogs have changed, but their training has. They can now be specifically trained NOT to fall for particular ruses. For example they can be trained to alert on the faint scent of cocaine, not stick their noses right into it.
I don't know if it worked or not. But I do know that it is entirely possible that it worked then but won't work now.
@@kg4wwn Very plausible. I'm guessing the Germans during the war only spent 3 or 4 months training their dogs since they needed so many. Today, many military and police dogs get up to 2 years of training.
I still want to know how well this did or did not work!
The dogs will lick the blood
Where were the Danish smugglers getting cocaine in the middle of the second world war?
Local pharmacy? Friendly dentist?
I don't get it. If I were a Nazi and discovered boat filled with blood that makes my dogs act weird, I would be even more suspicious.
But it's a fishing boat. You know before you get within a kilometer that it's going to reek of blood, fish, and seagulls.
I don't think war was ever declared between Denmark and Germany.
Maybe Germany didn't formally declare anything ... but surely this didn't make a big difference. Germany suddenly invaded and occupied Denmark, it was occupied from the attack in 1940 until the German surrender and end of the Third Reich in May 1945.
No one declares war, they simply show up with tanks and demands and you either comply or you don't.
This one was bleedin' obvious. Had not heard of the rabbit blood and cocaine aspect of it before, but this must be the easiest one to guess so far.
The title of the video certainly gave us a clue that the guests didn't have, but yeah.
Did it work?
Considering the Dane managed to evacuate about 90% of their Jewish population to Sweden, I'd say the answer is yes.
Of 7,800 Danish Jews, 7,220 were evacuated. Plus 686 non-Jewish spouses. I don't think it's possible to know how many of those are down to the cocaine plus rabbits' blood combination, but in general I'd say "yes, it worked".