Should You Still Learn To Code In 2024?
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@@johndavies-qt6sh If she's distracting, stop watching her sight. She shouldn't have to change her looks just to please you. Very selfish request!!!
@@blackwallstreetedu You think that her shiny skin if part of her "looks"?? I'm pretty sure it's an unintended side-effect of something.
Also, I didn't make a request; I made an observation.
@@johndavies-qt6sh it does matter what it is!! You don’t like it, don’t come back to her channel! She’s not here to please you with her looks!!
@@blackwallstreetedu I'm not asking her to please me with her looks. Just in case she never noticed it herself, I pointed out that the lighting she uses (in combination with skin products? I dunno...) makes her skin ridiculously shiny to the point where it distracts from the message.
She's a software engineer. She probably has had her work QA'ed, and on occasion her professional pride may have got hurt in the process. As a result, she can either effortlessly shrug off my feedback, or be happy with it because now she can take it into account.
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This video argues that while prompt engineering is becoming the new coding and will make programming more accessible, it won't replace the need for core engineering principles. The history of coding shows a trend of higher-level languages abstracting away tedious low-level details to make programming faster and simpler. Prompt engineering follows this same pattern - it's an evolution of coding that makes instructing AI systems easier. However, prompt engineering alone is not enough. You still need to understand fundamental software engineering concepts like APIs, benchmarking, data structures, algorithms, etc. in order to write effective prompts and build real-world AI applications. Coding is just a tool; engineering is the skill of breaking down problems and designing the right solutions. As the video states, "what won't get replaced is the principles that govern data analytics, data science and engineering." The future lies in applying this engineering mindset to fields like drug discovery and climate change. Prompt engineering makes AI accessible to all, but core engineering expertise is still essential.
I feel like this comment writen by AI
Great summary! :)
@@mariapiresdossantos Thanks girl.
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Love this. Most of these youtube videos can be a lot shorter
I have watched 75% of the video and still did not find the answer that the title of the video, taking so much time to make a simple point is really not a better use of time.
The answer is that yes you should still learn to code, because knowing how the program is built will make you a better engineer. You should also work on being more independent, more grateful, and less toxic.
Wow. What a great video. Thank you for taking the time to produce it and make it available to us. You got a new subscriber; looking forward to bingeing the rest of your content when I can.
THANK YOU SO MUCH TINA! For uploading videos related to ai and programming and cs! im glad there's a channel with the best content and tips!
I've stumbled across your videos three times now while searching for other things and every time I am impressed. Great content! (oh, and now I'm subscribed!)
I don’t think prompt engineering will take over coding. But, it will surely help software engineers and other professionals like doctors, engineers, and lawyers to do their work better than ever before. It’s not a replacement, but a helpful tool.
I totally agree with you
Yeah, to help that one software engineer, one doctor, one lawer, because everybody else will be out of work due to super productivity.
Imagine if you needed a heart monitor and an LLM coded it and the Prompt Engineer did not catch a deadly code flaw. Imagine if that was your heart monitor? If we are coding without understanding what we are coding I don't see how we even begin to have any level of quality control.
You can just have an AI doing the quality control lol
Human error can also kill people so your argument is invalid.
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@@danielfirmidatrust issues, and AI can’t take responsibility
@@darylallen2485 if humans are not following and understanding and keeping up on the tech how will they know that the products are safe and would we want to put our entire control into a machine that we would not in fact understand? Not sure.
Thank you for posting this video. Your content is very helpful and it's helping me in my transition from serving in the military to now becoming a AI professional who lives in South Korea.
Hows the living there? I was interested in going but am not sure
-Video: has a very clear question in the title
-Tina Huang: "OK let me talk about history, technology, biology and whatnot. Basically saying all kinds of stuff except answering the question"
Excellent presentation. Prompt engineering, bio engineering, the history and future of programming -from a dynamic pharmacology and computer science co-major. Wicked smart, wicked inspiring. Thx Tina Huang!
Thank you so much for this video Tina. This video was very helpful. It cleared all my doubts about prompt engineering. Also as a biology/medicine student, it really motivated me to work towards my field and learn more about drug engineering and life science engineering.
Hi Tina. Thank you for talking about Prompt Engineering. Keep up!
The future is about devolving our ideas in a more comfortable way, "programming" and "software developer" is not going to disappear, it is just a transformation, instead of writing in paper we write code in files, the future would be probably writing an idea in a precise way so AI can understand and develop your idea, you should do some handwork even, but the future seems promising even though, we software engineers must adapt to the technologies.
I am sorry but given that this is what architects and product owners, or business analysis that analyse business processes and write down their specifications do - programming STILL had disappeared. All this spec work you define now is not something that is new, and it is NOT the domain of programmers now, and so why should it suddenly be?
She mentioned doing low-level systems and that reminded me of the little bit the equivalent class I took went over things like compilers and so on. For example: if you run sort(), the interpreter will choose the best options it can based on that call. It isn't just one primitive algo typically. Even more pronounced: you could go through the effort of putting an authenticator together, or the framework you're using might have a good built-in option that will work just as well and hurt a lot less.
I haven't done much with any of these LLMs, but I got bored and made GPT give me the python code for a markov chain. Code looked great and ran just fine. I've also seen the same version muck up very simple problems that I remember solving in my intro class. I saw a post on reddit with a pretty good summary of this: "You should only be using these things if you don't need to." There's a shitton of people copy-pasting stuff that GPT, bard, etc. just vomit out and getting caught cause they didn't fucking read the output. A common concern I see is also GPT spitting out code that has license attached to it (which given how often it has given people stuff that was like the first result on google, bing, etc. that makes sense.), so the odds that this can fully supplant people is pretty low.
Likewise the reason why unis still cover broad ideas like data structures and so on isn't *just* to take your money, it's also because if they taught you the most recent implementation of x it would be worthless. If they make you work with those more general approaches you can (hopefully) take that with you much longer.
TL:DR, use it but don't rely on it. Don't swallow the fear kool aid before shit actually gets bad
(Tbh I think I just wrote this cause of my own anxiety, been a bit uneasy about everything and needed to get my head right so I can go back to doing what I enjoy)
ANYWAY, gg hf
Your channel is like a hidden gem on TH-cam. So glad I found it!
Very interesting presentation and perspective. We definitively need to be able to see through the hype vs the real changes coming. Some skills are going to be obsoletes may be just a need to under the underlaying concept. Prompt engineering is just another layer of abstraction, but software engineering skills are still evergreen albeit in a different form.
Great video. I will watch it several times, I'm sure. Love your channel.
I’ve seen several of your videos but this one got me to sub. Solidly laid out explanation on the positivity of the field. Thank you.
2026: ''what is Breathe Engineering?''
Thank you for this video, Tina. I have been just a tad anxious about the effects of AI on current and future employment. This video helps me to make sense of it. Thank you.
It's quite remarkable how much input you are able to apply in this one short video on a topic that would require three 2hr episodes. You are an expert on the subject, so it does help. There's a general misconception that Prompt engineering is just prompt. I think it's heading there, but I do agree to be ahead of the curve and to benefit from the current and emerging models, a comprehensive knowledge base will always be vital. But what the trend suggests is the endangerment of computer programming as an industry in itself. I thought it would take a few decades, but it seems it's going to take a lot shorter than that. It's already that many in the STEM industries are able to code as part of their day to day jobs, but there's evidence it will proliferate to all other industries and it's use will be as simple as just prompting (and not prompt engineering). The steps mentioned in the video to engineer a function, is going to be replaced by an intuitive AI that responds by giving optimal options (on cue). Google search already does that. But this isn't to say coding will be extinct, just not as highly sought as a stand-alone component on our resume.
My mom does assembly coding for work. I dont know how she does it. I'm learning it in school right now and I have a new found appreciation for her because this shit is hard 😭.
Damn what companies still do assembly
@oxy612 she also use to work for ibm, CA, and dell
You're changing lives with your content. Keep inspiring!
Thanks I needed to hear this. Signed up for game programming in Unity but being forced to study things for sore purpose of learning what's going on under 'the hood'.
Tina, would you please recommend some books on computer science history?
Thank you so much for your invaluable content! Love your videos, they're dense and light at the same time
For those videos titled: "Should you still learng to code in {year}?", the answer is YES! Coding is essential in giving instruction to computers with zero ambiguities. AI applications are just a tool that have changed the landscape of coding, but will not replace coding.
tina~~超级感谢你的宝藏视频！我是23年的毕业生，经历行业无情裁员后目前想要转码，你的视频内容和对给了我很大的inspirition！很想听你对engineering更多的理解！！不知道你有没有考虑聊聊，在ai影响下，对于新入门的人应该如何optimal的去学习coing？或者如何利用ai去boost这个学习的过程呢？
Software engineering just became more funny.
Why?
Dees nutsé
Replaced!
Mechanical engineers get paid 10k rupees per month 6 days working in india
As a biologist PhD neurobiologist (with large experience in experimental design, advanced statistics, SPSS, R, Python, SQL, excel, Tableau, learning Azure) aiming for a job as data scientist… I would love to have some advice in how to get a first job in a relevant industry.
People that say that we will be replaced by AI when it comes to programming or building software usually do not have experience in software development, etc.
I think it is because peolple back said the same thing about machines that those machines won't be accurate like humqn hand made.
The only thing to do is to go with this ai evolution and use it for ur own good
you will be replaced by AGI
No, companies won't need as many software devs so it'll look like intra competition rather than "replacement". You don't get to decide whether you stay in your job, the stakeholders and investors do.
You're very wise with the things you say. Thank you very much for the inspiration. I believe you have a lot of things to discover about the things you're doing on the internet, and it's on the right way to success. I hope you achieve great things out here.
As your 3-year follower, it's real strange that you use data scientist as your identity on TH-cam to produce videos and increase half a million followers and make money from TH-cam ads and sponsorships. But actually, you only worked as a data scientist for almost 1 year and quit your job to work as a full-time TH-camr to make money! This 1 year of experience can't even secure a mid-level data scientist position in the current market, but you build a program to teach people how to learn AI and relevant knowledge. It's really ridiculous. I'm really curious about how much experience or knowledge in AI, machine learning, NLP, and computer science you really have, and how much you still remember. I wonder how much ML production experience you gained from your 1 year, only 1 year of experience. You are still a junior, but all your videos are teaching others how to work in the AI world and develop a career!
Love your presentation! So clear and concise to even non-technical people.
Domain knowledge is king.
They can train llms on your domain knowledge
For someone trying to break into Project Management in Software Development, how do you guys foresee the future? What should I focus my attention on to survive the next 10 years in this industry?
Brilliantly explained. Prompt engineering is the new code delivered through NLP.
If I remember the internet, has been around since about the mid 50s, but publicly available around the early 80s, and the web, was implemented for public use around 1990 or so.
How about reversing your learning methodology
Learning/Implementing a Prompt-based script without learning the fundamentals of Assembly or C
It seems that none of the "modern day engineers" today are willing to dig down to those very basic fundamentals?
coding i extremely precise. Natural language on the hand requires a lot of context and it still remains vague
I hoped the video would highlight that the prompt we discussed today essentially introduces a new "low-level" programming language. To achieve the final product X, it might require 10 or 100 specific prompts. Yet, it's uncertain how long it will take to transition from needing 100 expertly crafted prompts to a single prompt like "Create X product."
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I kept developing software projects without understanding the core concepts as a fresher people say you should do leetcode more, that is good but in an organization you need to build and engineer software …. Building personal projects needs to be on top…. even the person behind homebrew did not knew how to invert a binary tree but knew how to build things that are useful for millions of people to download and build software …. So fresher or Team Lead everyone has to keep learning designing and engineering software even if leetcode is a priority or not….
I still believe programmers will have the most power to take hold of the best newest AI tech and monitize it first before it’s perfectly refined. Things and trust take time. It will happen but just the trust aspect won’t be there for years . I’ve seen coders make millions from AI projects because they were able to move faster than others. You’ll still have that advantage for many years
I’m sure basic coding could be replaced or streamlined, but you still need people who have the knowledge and skills to find the best solutions.
Companies have hired too many folks/managers who don’t have any technical skills nor the knowledge on the core tasks because they assume they “would know” without even knowing the basics.
I doubt a 'coder' will improve much of qpu processings; thus I'd propose to focus at (architecture-)design to extend discoveries of quantum.
There are ever more restrictions now. If I began coding today I'd choose sth. like RUST which itself is restrictive and add free code upon that can quickly be checked to disturb or not.
A good idea might be to code an interface which switches amongst compilers/interpreters according to their advantages for a specific hardware architecture/setting.
Thank you for posting.
ARE core engineering skills still essential? I think AI makes possible a much higher level of "high level" than we even yet realize or care to admit. There are certainly indicators of it now, especially in the form of agents. I can imagine a very near future where AWS releases a core agentic tool that integrates ALL of its own products such that you can simply say to it, "Hey, AWS team, build me a website that does XYZ," and the AI assistant would be smart enough to ask follow-up questions to determine things like where the users will be located and what sorts of user and other data it would have to store in a database, as well as make rough predictions as to the resources required to meet traffic demands. The agent would know how to set up the database(s) based on the types of data involved and on questions of privacy and security. It would continuously monitor web traffic and automatically scale or suggest upgrades to the infrastructure. And it will generate beautiful websites because... well, we've already seen it do that. Of course, there would be hiccups along the way, but overcoming those is a simple matter of iteration and output monitoring. None of this would require anything remotely close to engineering expertise.
I think AI will allow us to refactor code to be more effienient, as if we were programming in machine language / assembly code but with the abstraction of natural language.
Thank you so much😊
These vids make so much sense, thanks for the innovation buddy!!
It is a privilege to have the opportunity to learn how to code ASM.
love your videos, tx!
What he said that only coding is not going to bmget you job, you need to learn and specialize on other things as well. Because most of the time you just need to import libraries and write few lines of code.
Imagine a ML engineer, how much codes he need to write right now, maximum 200 lines to trian and build a model
That does not mean you will not need dedicated code writer, you will still need some but very few in numbers
I don't quite get how will prompt engineering can replace traditional coding.
Your example where prompt engineering would be an additional level of abstraction is missing that the nature of the output and input changes.
Here are somethings I would be concerned about :
Consistency.
1.1 If you type in two prompts that have slightly different wording. The result can be vastly different, there are no guardrails to prevent variarions in results.
1.2 each time a new version of the ML model is updated to a new version. It does not guarantee backwards compatibility, imagine if java 11 is not mostly backwards compatible with java 7, think about the learning curve on each version.
1.3 ML models have randomness in LLM, but let's say we solved that by eliminating the randomness from the model, which may probably is doable.
Let's say if you are able to somehow solve all these problems above. Then the machine learning model is no different from a traditional coding library that's deterministic. (With strict syntax ensure what you type is what you get.)
So I just cannot think people would want to do engineering on top of non-deterministic behaviors. If people do actually do that, it is not called engineering, it is just delegating without checking the AI's work....
I reckon,
that though Google dominates so much,
and perhaps even AI productivity,
there is more needed.
A power of AI is that it gets to know you quiet fast,
but we also need to be able to test and assess each AI service.
Just as we need still to understand code,
to see that it works well enough and is safe enough.
If the Chinese take over a place,
there seems little alternative,
sadly true,
but we still need to learn alternative possibilities,
as history shows that the big power of authority is painfully negligent.
It probably will be like that with AI enhanced services.
I am considering studying front-end in school. Is that path still valid? 😢
Yes. Human programming will still be useful for at least a few more decades. AI just isn't reliable enough at this time. You should really consider learning more about generative ai in your free time, though. It's pretty fun stuff. 👍
so basicly having a degree or master degree on cs would become even more relevant for employers?
according to the point of view of Jensen Huang that Tina shows us, it seems like a degree in science (e.g. biology) would be a better option in order to adquire domain knowlege because soon everybody would be a programmer.
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Why wouldn't AI eventually become better at 'engineering'? Why wouldn't it be better at knowing what questions to ask, what architectures to implement etc.? What is the magical quality of the human brain that is unsurpassable for a computer and is it the same magical quality that just a couple of years ago people were claiming would make it impossible for a computer to produce beautiful images, videos, wite code, or solve mathematical problems?
It will when AGI comes in 5 years
@@quantumspark343 lol
@@quantumspark343are you capable of reading a complete algorithm model?😂😂
Where is the answer in that video ? Can anyone tell.
12:03 The answer is yes
Coding is useless soon, everyone will become a programmer easily
The makers of Devin, Cognition labs have 3 job postings at the moment: Machine Learning Researcher, Software Engineer and another with the title "General Application". Would would a company with an AI Software engineer advertise for a Software Engineer role? One thing they know is the world is full of people you can fool.
You won’t regret learning to code well enough to get a job. Trust me.
Thank you. I'll heed your advice.If things doesn't work out, what will I really lose? I'll take solace in knowing that I gave it my allPositive mindset and hard work will help me to achieve my goals and accomplish what I started one year ago💕😃Viel Erfolg
Tbh Firstly i wanna learn how to speak fluently the way you do. Any Suggestions?
Great content as always thank you
great content ❤
Short answer...no, it will not replace.
Long answer, AI will augment coding and developing. Just like anything else, those who are relying too heavily on typing into a keyboard need to up their game and start thinking like an actual developer.
pasaremos de codificar con lineas de codigo a realizar programacion con lenguaje natural
But it will be still specific commands that will do only a specific thing not general meanings!
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I am currently in school and after two years I will be over with it. Currently residing in country, India and want to become data scientist I not very sure which pathway is good for me. Kindly help me with guidance
It just adds another abstraction layer on top of high-level programming languages.
Algorith technicall came from algebra or Arthemitic -> which is some middle east polymath
This was brilliant
the first programmer was charles babbbage. he invented the machine lovelace wrote a program for it. it is a ridiculous assumption he invents a machine, but was not able to create an input for it.
No he wasn't. He started with the difference engine but could never complete it because he ran out of funding, and it wasn't programmable. The analytical engine was a collaboration with Ada Lovelace, and she was in fact the first person to program for it on the punch cards. That makes her the first programmer. Sorry bud.
Honestly, I dont really know what to do anymore. Im just gonna do whatever I feel like doing. We are fucked either way.
“The game the same, it just got more fierce”
Any company that would rely solely on prompt coding will get a big wakeup call. Currently just a tool to make programmers more efficient
Yes!!!!! Free at last!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whenever I encounter such claims, I recall Rice's Theorem.
how can you download it when you dont have a company ??
You can just put N/A!
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Yes, coding is done. Major in dance history.
Yes.
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Golden days of software engineering is over.
I didn't know that you also have a degree in pharmacology. That's pretty cool.
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"....taught me how to think critically and continue coding despite tears streaming down my face" 😂😂
its because ai will kill everything, so you can stay at the thing you do right now. man in future will need to find sense in live in a world where his work is not needed. you cant change that so why dont you keep doing what you do right now
So many people talking with the same issues like you about replacement code developers with AI, honestly i feel like AI isn't strong enough and spread out in website like social media, AI more likely tool for helping developers. Instead you frightened what happened bla bla blah, you have to increase your skill especially your soft skills.
Hello, just a little real example:
I have this process that categorize customers in a Telecommunication company, 10M by now, a category is VIP/medium/low/debtors/others. We have 5 complete different core systems: billing, customer data, telecom transactional data, etc... The complete process involves these technologies: IBM Datastage (ETL), Oracle PL/SQL, Java, microservices, shell, workload automation, and some work in AWS lambdas. The idea, get the info from the cores, summarize, process and provide a category.
My point, do you thing that in such process an AI could help to solve a business issue? My answer, NO.
Do you think that the 'key user' can provide enough information to an AI to fabricate from scratch such process (forget about the stack)? for me.... NO.
Do you think that an AI is capable to understand the business logic, including the 5 cores, and materialize a process as an application? haha, NO
That's that, we are toying with AI. The main objective of all this is to automate and make repetitive tasks faster. But, the complexity of a business, game, auditory, modeling, critical system, still remains... For me, seriously, it is more feasible to replace a CEO w/AI to favor humanity for real.
You are mushing your history, and the times that things came out.
And what these languages were for.
the word free really pulls people
why i read it pro gamer then pro grammer then programmer
1 year experience in Data Science
5 Years experience YouTubing 😅
She's a journalist/reporter at this point
Software can't produce another software but AI can produce other software and other ai.
This video is sugar-coat because of sponsor.
Is prompt engineering really a thing? No one knows what's happening underneath....it depends on the model, once the model changes, ur prompts won't get the required output,also anyone can write in natural language....Plus someone experienced and who has spent many years in swe cannot switch and go to biology easily
And as someone else also pointed out who is going to pay for some job which almost anyone can do? Also a team of say 10 engineers maybe reduced to 2
The truth is biology is the field were Nvidia expect to really make a dent so Jensen is speaking more like a salesman than a biologist or a computer scientist. You still need folks to build these AI tools, to maintain them and improve them. And biologist is still a tough field where expert may need AI tools, but human make the last decision and still need to understand what we need to create.
First thumbnail wasnt click-baity enough?
...and everyone starts searching for Assembly Language courses online...
I'm genuinely wandering if you guys are related since you have the same surname
haha nope! it's one of the most common Mandarin last names
already too deep into coding to be willing to skip. too late. just 20 years ahead until retirement
Nice Ralph Gracia Jiujitsu hoodie! You should do videos of you training.
Interesting thing, I hear about the many things we will be able to do in this new world. But I don't see any practical effects on the human element other than discovery. I mean we are creating a world, where we are essentially not needed within it.
How can a decreasingly minimized human, survive this coming apocalypse?
I'm certainly not saying, it was created to end in that way. But with everything being DE-Monstrously Motivated for pure Profit, how can even engineers survive this fate?
I do have a question for YOU Tina Huar, Just your thoughts.
Lets say You create something on any L.L.M. or you design a cure for cancer or a protocol that makes everything work seamlessly, who would own this discovery?
What would be the fair use of this discovery? How would you accurately/Fairly, be paid?
Would you be even credited for this discovery?
Again, I know you don't RUN THINGS, but as somebody YOUNG enough to have to endure this possible future what are your thoughts?
Hey it's probably a video IDEA! 😉
This needs to be spoken own because at least in America, corporations have the same rights as people and if you technically create something using something they built, they can ask or demand you pay them for something they helped create.
It something that must be discussed, I'm currently 59 and seen many things taken away for profit motives that worker or creatives need to survive.
The Actors and Directors and writers tried to address this last year and I think you have the prerequisites to try and discuss this on a real level that everybody can UNDERSTAND.
Peace and thank you for your channel it's been a great add to my subscriptions.