If we were stupid enough to want to try our first build like this (over Miata shell as previously mentioned) what essential tools would you recommend starting off with? Thanks Chris! 😊
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Hi George, some of the tools I would suggest depend on your fab/welding experience and the type of car and finish you're aiming for. For example, the biggest learning curve in coachbuilding is TIG welding the thinner aluminum panels. I think this took the most trial and error for me and a decent TIG welder isn't exactly cheap. To workaround some of the TIG you can opt for riveting panels in an aircraft fashion (which many of the post WWII Racers had) and it looks awesome. So to answer your question (off the top of my head here) with a budget friendly mindset: R/L handed aviation snips, A "Shrinking Stump", A chunk of railroad track, A good Vise, A good set of hammers and dollies in various shapes and sizes, A leather "Shotbag", Folding Pliers, A basic English Wheel with a good set of anvils (the most important factor is frame rigidity and having anvils that are polished with no machining grooves), Tig Welder (Or Oxy/Gas if you prefer), Map Gas Torch, A good set of files, Scribes, Woodworking Clamps/Spring clamps and Vise Grips (Can never have enough), Clecos... And lastly, if your budget allowed I would look at some sort of reciprocating hammer and tooling for it. Again, just off the top of my head this would get a person shaping pretty quickly!
Thanks for showing us the way forward on your project, beeing 67 yo, and have collected tools all my life, I have most of the tools you mentioned. And I agree, TIG welding thin aluminum is not easy, but I’m getting there 😂 I hope. All I need now is to actually start my project.
Very well done, Chris. I REALLY like your bending fixture!
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Thank you Ron! There is a funny story with that tool. I had a customer visit the old shop who saw it and asked if I was aware of the history of Veterinary External Skeletal Fixation (he obviously was a vet). I said No and he went on to tell me early on in treating animals with splints a nearly identical system was used to match the curvature of the bone with aluminum rod or plate, the doc would then fix it to the animal with straps to allow the bone to heal back to its natural placement… Who knew!?
This series on body buck building and shaping is absolutely the best out there. It leaves no detail overlooked. Thanks for posting. My next project after watching your videos will be to make a stack of plywood circle wire shaping bucks.
Excellent video! Thank you for clearing up some of the questions I had about wireforming over a plywood buck. Your videos along with Ron Covell's and Greg Martin's videos are priceless.
Nice work Chris ! 👍 Really enjoying your Posts ! 🤗 I Need to get Back shaping again, maybe I should try and find a paper pattern For a pedal car I could make a buck from and shape one up . From Down Under 🦘 Cheers Andy👍
Nice and simple for us to understand thanks. You have probably mentioned this many times before, can you tell me what size the rod us you use. On here it looks like 1/4 (6.3) it just bends so easily that makes me think it is 3/16 (4.78) thanks
Fantastic as always, so many little tricks and tips. Question..... I notice the tabs you weld to the rods and then crew to the wood move around a lot when drilling and screwing.......... Would it be better to attach the tabs with a grove to the wood first and have it so the rod lays in the grove then weld knowing they wont move ? Perhaps its just a personal preference you have or a reason I am not seeing. Peace
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I marked out lines specifically where I wanted the rod to lay. Then sanded up to that mark. When I welded the tabs to the rod, I was only concerned that the tabs were not above/proud of the buck. Once the tabs were welded on, I pushed and pulled the rod where I wanted it to be to drill the holes. The holes were drilled both through the tabs and into the wood, acting as a guide for where I would mount them. I was conscious of this the whole time adjusting and correcting for where I wanted it. When I screwed the tabs on, each one went into the hole I had pre-drilled and the wire edge came out where I had intended.
Hi Chris. I was expecting you might create a metal edge around the engine cover buck as well. Won't it be needed? Thanks.
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Thanks for the question Thom, I believe this explanation was edited out of the video. I will shape the engine cover to the buck, running it past the wood ribs. When fit on the car I will use the wire edge in this video to build the frame for the lid and define the parameter that gets hammer wrapped. This is about 6MM under the current wire edge. I will show this in an upcoming video.
Very nice Sir! Love the videos.... question, do you find building over wooden stations, easier than aluminum?
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My first build was done entirely shaping over wood buck. Since then I’ve gone through several variations of aluminum tube buck. Partly because the designs had elements that were one off in nature. I believe shaping over the wood is in fact easier though because it’s more rigid. It is also more efficient.
Could You Please Give Me The Name Of The Ark Tool You Have. I Think You Are Saying "Accuark adjustable Spine Tool"? Is That Correct?? I'm Trying To Find One But Not See It Come Up On Google. Thanks for Any Information!!! Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!
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Yes it is called an Acu Arc Adjustable Curve www.draftingsteals.com/20057.html
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If we were stupid enough to want to try our first build like this (over Miata shell as previously mentioned) what essential tools would you recommend starting off with? Thanks Chris! 😊
Hi George, some of the tools I would suggest depend on your fab/welding experience and the type of car and finish you're aiming for. For example, the biggest learning curve in coachbuilding is TIG welding the thinner aluminum panels. I think this took the most trial and error for me and a decent TIG welder isn't exactly cheap. To workaround some of the TIG you can opt for riveting panels in an aircraft fashion (which many of the post WWII Racers had) and it looks awesome.
So to answer your question (off the top of my head here) with a budget friendly mindset: R/L handed aviation snips, A "Shrinking Stump", A chunk of railroad track, A good Vise, A good set of hammers and dollies in various shapes and sizes, A leather "Shotbag", Folding Pliers, A basic English Wheel with a good set of anvils (the most important factor is frame rigidity and having anvils that are polished with no machining grooves), Tig Welder (Or Oxy/Gas if you prefer), Map Gas Torch, A good set of files, Scribes, Woodworking Clamps/Spring clamps and Vise Grips (Can never have enough), Clecos... And lastly, if your budget allowed I would look at some sort of reciprocating hammer and tooling for it. Again, just off the top of my head this would get a person shaping pretty quickly!
Thanks Chris! That’s awesome!!!! 😊
Thanks for showing us the way forward on your project, beeing 67 yo, and have collected tools all my life, I have most of the tools you mentioned.
And I agree, TIG welding thin aluminum is not easy, but I’m getting there 😂 I hope. All I need now is to actually start my project.
I love your question 😂
Good luck!
Very well done, Chris. I REALLY like your bending fixture!
Thank you Ron! There is a funny story with that tool. I had a customer visit the old shop who saw it and asked if I was aware of the history of Veterinary External Skeletal Fixation (he obviously was a vet). I said No and he went on to tell me early on in treating animals with splints a nearly identical system was used to match the curvature of the bone with aluminum rod or plate, the doc would then fix it to the animal with straps to allow the bone to heal back to its natural placement… Who knew!?
@ Thanks, Chris - that's quite a story!
This series on body buck building and shaping is absolutely the best out there. It leaves no detail overlooked. Thanks for posting.
My next project after watching your videos will be to make a stack of plywood circle wire shaping bucks.
Its really taking shape
Ur phunny😅
That whole wooden buck is going to be so user friendly, Chris!
That radius bending rack is really great!
Thank you so much another excellent video
No easy task, the buck is an art to itself.
I just repeat myself but this serie is fantastic, thanks a lot for taking the time for us!
I just got my grubby hands on a big cnc router. Thanks for the inspiration. Time to scratch one off the bucket list
What a great craftsmanship 🎉🎉
Loving this series Chris. Keep 'um coming.
Excellent video! Thank you for clearing up some of the questions I had about wireforming over a plywood buck. Your videos along with Ron Covell's and Greg Martin's videos are priceless.
Looks good. Thank you for the video.
Fascinating!
Nice work Chris ! 👍
Really enjoying your Posts ! 🤗
I Need to get Back shaping again, maybe I should try and find a paper pattern
For a pedal car I could make a buck from and shape one up .
From Down Under 🦘
Cheers
Andy👍
Awesome video Great work !
Great work, thanks for sharing! I appreciate it, thank you!
All I could see was that beautiful orange vw camper, is it yours? 🙌
Yes, owned for almost 20 years!
Nice and simple for us to understand thanks. You have probably mentioned this many times before, can you tell me what size the rod us you use. On here it looks like 1/4 (6.3) it just bends so easily that makes me think it is 3/16 (4.78) thanks
could not be better
Amazing work love it.
Cooooooool!
Thanks for helping film buddy!
Great info thanks for the share
Good work
These are steel wire edges correct? Is there not a concern for corrosion when these are captured in the aluminum skin?
Fantastic as always, so many little tricks and tips. Question..... I notice the tabs you weld to the rods and then crew to the wood move around a lot when drilling and screwing.......... Would it be better to attach the tabs with a grove to the wood first and have it so the rod lays in the grove then weld knowing they wont move ? Perhaps its just a personal preference you have or a reason I am not seeing. Peace
I marked out lines specifically where I wanted the rod to lay. Then sanded up to that mark. When I welded the tabs to the rod, I was only concerned that the tabs were not above/proud of the buck. Once the tabs were welded on, I pushed and pulled the rod where I wanted it to be to drill the holes. The holes were drilled both through the tabs and into the wood, acting as a guide for where I would mount them. I was conscious of this the whole time adjusting and correcting for where I wanted it. When I screwed the tabs on, each one went into the hole I had pre-drilled and the wire edge came out where I had intended.
Hi Chris. I was expecting you might create a metal edge around the engine cover buck as well. Won't it be needed? Thanks.
Thanks for the question Thom, I believe this explanation was edited out of the video. I will shape the engine cover to the buck, running it past the wood ribs. When fit on the car I will use the wire edge in this video to build the frame for the lid and define the parameter that gets hammer wrapped. This is about 6MM under the current wire edge. I will show this in an upcoming video.
@ , thanks, Chris. These videos are really well done.
Это гениально😮
Very nice Sir! Love the videos.... question, do you find building over wooden stations, easier than aluminum?
My first build was done entirely shaping over wood buck. Since then I’ve gone through several variations of aluminum tube buck. Partly because the designs had elements that were one off in nature. I believe shaping over the wood is in fact easier though because it’s more rigid. It is also more efficient.
Could You Please Give Me The Name Of The Ark Tool You Have. I Think You Are Saying "Accuark adjustable Spine Tool"?
Is That Correct?? I'm Trying To Find One But Not See It Come Up On Google.
Thanks for Any Information!!!
Keep Rocking It Out Brother!!!
Yes it is called an Acu Arc Adjustable Curve
www.draftingsteals.com/20057.html
@ Awesome!!! Thank You.
Tube buck tutorial?
We will do one eventually! I did cover some of the process in an earlier video as well. th-cam.com/video/mTB9LRhX9Gg/w-d-xo.html
watching you , makes me foolishly think ' I could do that '
Me too!
Why not ?
Don’t we all…