@seggsmaster9704can't you just like you know make someone to look after him if you are busy by yourself especially when that child parents are dead to save basically your asses?
I’m not gonna ask you what loneliness means and sound all nerdy but being alone and loneliness are two different words headed in the same direction, they mean almost the same thing except being alone is a literal statement, loneliness is more of a restrictive psychological experience and anyone and almost everyone can experience it.
@@skidek1268 you can still be all alone in a crowd who doesnt notice you or doesn’t give a fck about you. You can still be alone in a group who doesnt care for you. If you have no company with u, u are alone. Which roots into being lonely. Only until someone actually cares and pays attention to you, is when ur no longer alone.
@@YuuriDaFox well the thing is he did have someone who cared for him and that was iruka sensei and before that ramen guy, literally the only reason he went there was because he was lonely and needed someone to talk to.
Because he is luffy, he made all those things look less worse than they actually were. Ace neglected him and Luffy sometimes had near death experiences due to that and in starting dadan didn't wanted to take for him but she had to due to pressure of garp. It's just that it was luffy that made it look wholesome and funny rather than sad.
@@hakaishinhelles5194luffy had it better but that doesn’t mean he had it good it’s was still bad he was going through things. But he still had people like how tmir stated, whereas Naruto was basically all alone and was going through a lot of mental pain. He was safe sure, but he was going through a lot and had no one like luffy. Just cuz we say luffy had it better doesn’t mean he had it good ok.
Naruto did have safety in his village, despite that there were several adult who wanted to kill him. In the first episode Naruto steals a scroll with forbidden jutsu, and the first thing they wanted to do was kill him, there was a group that was even planning on going behind the hokage back and killing him in the woods, and in the manga choji's dad was one of them. Not to mention Naruto didn't find out the reason he was being ostracized until he was 12, so a good chunk of his life he was being ruthlessly bullied and ignored for no reason. Maybe watch the anime before you make this argument.
@@rossnunez3512 Maybe his telling the people who's reading the comments to do research before arguing with him... Pls don't take it the wrong way (don't be mad at me pls TwT)
You've gotta accept it, luffy was build different. I don't think he'll even care if people hate him and unlike naruto he wouldn't even try to be accepted by anyone.
@@Kledian123it's a meme when hiruzen was fighting orochimaru and orochimaru used impure world reincarnation 3 coffins appeared the first 2 coffins contains the 1st and 2nd hokage and he stopped the 3rd coffin which would have minato so he technically stopped minato from coming back to life
Bro , minato's soul was sealed by reaper death seal jutsu , so it is impossible to reincarnate him as reincarnation jutsu requires a free soul . Hiruzen was scared because he thought that in the third box could be madara or gara's father(this is just an assumption). And if your question is how minato got reincarnated in the great ninja war , then see this orochimaru first used the reverse of reaper death seal to free their souls . So he was able to reincarnate minato
The hokage gave sasuke a balcony and a tv and a nicer room then Naruto and Naruto could only afford ramen so no wonder why he was obsessed with it and he pretty much the let the villagers to bully Naruto
@@midnight_lunar true, you're righ. Luffy doesn't care about what others think about him, but, Naruto does. Luffy is the best representation of freedom. but, Naruto is opposite Naruto is a good representation of forgiveness. But, luffy is opposite. Truly they are polar opposite 😅😞
Imagine being hated by everyone in your city. And only eating ramen packets every day, even though you're a child soldier that needs nutrition. And your crush is in love with your closest friend, and your closest friend becomes a terrorist.
That’s the life of a lot kids in a normal country. Compare that to growing up in a literal war zone with criminals and gang leaders lol. Average American kid vs average somalian kid, who u think got it easier? Emotional pain is ok but your life being constantly on the line? Come on chief. It’s a no brainer.
@@ringgame that’s a terrible way of looking at things, humans are more complex than “only violence means suffering” That’s why the phrase, walking in another’s shoes, exists. It’s not a piss contest, pain is equal. There are different means that cause pain but downplaying others experiences is outright evil if you can’t comprehend what the person is going through.
Being alone IS worse than being hurt. Also, "had the Hokage looking after him", only if you consider throwing a little child into an appartment, by himself, isn't really looking after him.
This is not even close. Sure, Luffy had some rough spots in his childhood, but he was always to be able to bounce back very quickly because there were people who took care of Luffy. Naruto was lonely for almost his entire childhood and was ostracized by his village as a monster. The only reason he did not become one was because he had Iruka who treated like a normal kid.
Iruka also hated him at first because his parents also died to Kurama, he just started to be nice to him after realising he was also bullied as a child.
@@arjunstudies28 bro just cuz we said luffy had it better doesn’t mean he had it good he still had to got through shit. But still Naruto went through worse and had no support for his dream unlike luffy.
Naruto went through stuff that would make most indifferent and sad or a angry person. But Luffy went through shit that would break most people! torture, multiple near death experiences before the age of 8, the loss of a brother and his parents left him. Just think about this way if you had to pick which life you would experience from birth till they are 18 which would you pick Luffy´s or Naruto´s.
How ??? , I have seen Naruto and seen back stories from Naruto and said alright, then I saw backstory from one piece and went wow that's dark , I would rather have experienced Naruto child hood , than some of things that happened in one piece
@@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218then you never payed attention when watching naruto. For most of the part luffy enjoyed his childhood. While naruto had to go through alot of mental trauma. And yes luffy spent an entire night crying because of sabo's quote on quote death.but that is no match for naruto spending most of his nights crying to himself and having no friends
@@cheeseboys1700 firstly I never said Luffy had worse childhood than Naruto, well I find it hard to relate to Naruto bc I am mostly an introvert and loner I very good at keeping myself happy , Naruto suffered more bc of his an extrovert and wanted everyone attention , if I was Naruto I would have just cared about teuchi(ramen guy) and 3rd hokage and I wouldn't have cared much about the other villagers ,I might not hate the village (bc i see hating someone a waste of energy) but I wouldn't go out of my way get acknowledged by them either , if Naruto had a family that he had memories with and he remembered losing them with i would understand his pain more but he didnt , naruto never knew what loosing someone u care about felt like until way later when he became a ninja so I can't really sympathize with him that much . If I was naruto shoes ,I don't see myself going out of my way to prank the villagers to gain acknowledgement , most of time I would either be training to be ninja or engaging in my own hobbies , maybe i would eventually inherit the will of fire but i doubt what happened to naruto would have affected me that much , too me naruto pain is subjective ,if u were to ask me i would say Sasuke , gaara and kakashi backstories were more harsher than Naruto's backstory i resonate with one piece backstories more bc they are more filled with lose of loved ones, mental trauma , physical trauma and betrayal than anything I have seen in naruto
Naruto had it worst for the fact that he was alone for most of his life. The hokage really didn’t look after him that much. He didn’t have a real father figure until iruka accepted him.
To be fair Naruto had a bad enviroment for mental health and Luffy was constantly at risk of dying(often because of Garp). Luffy had better mental health Naruto had better physical health.
Comparing trauma is honestly feels disrespectful to be honest and I'm ok with power scaling bias, like seriously it pisses me of if they made those posts as a glazing bias points.
Naruto was the son of a hokage but basically grew up poor as hell with no one truly invested in his training or him even living. We saw what kind of father the 3rd was with Asuma he was trash only person 3rd hokage seem to ever care for was Orichomaru. Garp beat up on luffy physically but it was to make him strong and even let him go after his dream of being a pirate and luffy had real friends that become family, hell naruto didn’t even have that till he was a teenager with Jiraya even kakashi put most of his energy into Sasuke
Naruto’s parents died, almost dies in every arc, is the reason Jiryia has that gnarly chest scar, was hated by basically everyone in his village, and was unable to properly use jutsus and was harassed by everyone due to being a jinchuriki, and having his best friend abandon him. Keep in mind that basically ww4 happened on his birthday and neji also died on his bday along with like 50,000 other people. oh yeah i forgot one the only person that gave more than a shit about naruto died to some dude named pain, after that there was only 4 people that gave a shit about him, ichiraku and iruka when naruto was a little kid, sakura after the land of waves ark, and tsnade after the search for tsunade ark. All that really happened to luffy is him being thrown in the woods, he thinks sabo dies, robin leaves then they save her, and ace dies.
Honestly I'm gonna have to say that Luffy's childhood was pretty messed up, he just doesn't care about it and doesn't let it bother him. While Naruto cardied that trauma with him when he grew up.
Only sad thing that happened with luffy is he lost his brother. He fell in many trouble but he over come those with the help from his brothers. He was loved by ace,sabo, shanks, garp, dadan and the whole village along with Makino. So i did not get it how his childhood is sad.
Luffy CHOSE to go through some of those hardships so he could be a great pirate and he ignored his guardians who tried to keep him safe naruto had the entire village hating on him since birth due to something he didnt know or control
Naruto had it worse, and it’s not even close. He was hated by everyone except like 3 or 4 people, had to live on expired milk and ramen for his whole life, had no family, was always alone, always got bullied, oh also not to mention the hokage who was supposed to be looking after him only gave him some allowance, and that’s not even all
And we didn't even mention the fact that Naruto had no parents and at least Luffy has a father, while not directly involved in his life at least he has a fairly good reason for why.
One of them literally had a fun childhood that did have certain unfortunate aspects but the other had literally no one and hated everything. Like if he had the option luffy would 100% go back to being a kid but naruto would not
What is fun about hunting your lunch and surving in the wild or with bandits. Naruto was FEELING lonely but played every day on the playground with other kids till sunset, only then he felt lonely cuz of others parents. Mental diff
I’d rather be raised lonely than literally get tortured before I was seven years old, have both of my parents abandoned me and have to live the trauma that a person that I cared about dearly lost their arm because of me
@@OmniKit it is only loneliness, naruto didn’t know why the villagers kept away from him they were afraid of Naruto so Naruto thought he was hated and without parents there was no love to keep him from thinking negatively That’s it, the reason people think Naruto has one of the saddest backstorys ever is because of how the anime portrayed it and even added filler to it, and it would still make sense if Naruto didn’t suffer as much because the shinobi world is very dark so if Naruto suffered as much as garra he wouldn’t care to use talk no jutsu which would in the future change the world
Luffy tortures himself most of the time he CHOSE to be a pirate and did dangerous stuff so he could be a pirate his guardian actively tries to keep him safe but he runs of into dangerous situations causing garp to train him so he wont get himself killed in the future everyone around him loved and cared for him even if he didnt have parents Even tho naruto didnt have it that bad he still never really had anyone postive to him(fck hiruzen) in his childhood everyone hated him for something he didnt know and he couldnt do anything about it If a regular guy was in place of luffy he would listen to garp and stay at hime and grow up as a regular person a lot of luffys "torture" is self inflicted
@@LORDANK84 I know luffy chooses to let himself get hurt and garp wants to keep luffy safe from the sea dangers but there’s no much wrong with your comment I assumed I read it wrong so could you explain luffy and garps character motives in the past
Luffy had people he could turn to, Naruto had no one for a good chunk of his life. Sure both did not have parents but one had friends he could fall back on. Heck both stories make me cry
Yeah this is Naruto, at least Garp visited at least meanwhile the Hokage was absent that it was just a joke like the guy was tasked with taking care of Minatos son and none of that happened.
I love luffy but tgis is literally a debate of who had it rough from the beginning. Even sasuke said something in their final fight when he was using his shadow clones. That he uses his clones as a distraction of reality that naruto is lonely and was alone from the beginning.
Dont even wanna compare them its more than enough to say that they both were equally tortured and suffered at the beginning but later found wisdom and their journey long or short was their path to happiness and peace
The difference is Luffy when he had to hunt food for himself -YEAAA I GOT ME SOME FOOD. Naruto when he had to hunt food for himself - Damn nigga I'm so poor i can't buy food Luffy not having his father - I got a father? I thought i never had ond Naruto- i never met my father damn
Ok, it is not even close. Sure, Luffy did suffer mote physical abuse compared to Naruto, but they only lasted for a short while. More importantly, Luffy had people he can talk to if he was having any trouble. When Sabo ‘died’, Luffy still had Ace to help him process his emotions. When Shanks sacrifices his arm to save Luffy, Shanks comforted Luffy that it was ok because and that incident just taught Luffy a lesson about being ready to become a pirate. Whenever something terrible happened to Luffy, he was able to bounce back soon after, especially when he had other people looking after him. Naruto, on the other hand, only had Iruka, and was ostracized by the entire village. Sure, the Third Hokage made sure Naruto had a roof over his head and food to eat, but he rarely interacted directly with Naruto. Naruto was miserable for almost his entire childhood and he could have become worse had it not been for Iruka offering a supporting hand and believe in Naruto to become a great ninja one day.
You actually have to be delusional to think Luffy's childhood is comparable to Naruto's, Naruto's was far worse and it's not even a contest. Luffy actually had people who cared for him, was always having fun with his two older brothers and even had a role model like Shanks he wanted to become like. While Naruto was hated and treated horribly by pretty much everyone in the village, had no one looking after him except for the 3rd Hokage giving him money to live off, didn't have anyone in his life actually care about him until around the time he became a Genin. And the 3rd Hokage did somewhat care about Naruto but didn't do nearly enough to prevent his childhood suffering as he was pretty much the only one with the power to prevent it. Sure Luffy had some dangerous moments in his childhood and sabo did "die" but losing someone is not as bad as never having anyone to begin with, Luffy's childhood wasn't even bad tbh, sure it wasn't perfect but he was happy during his childhood outside when Sabo "died".
Well Naruto childhood is worst then luffy no home sometime no money to eat not even a single friend But luffy has some things well luffy life is very good on my perspective
Luffy had a pretty bad childhood afterall in the anime it says that grandpa garp will throw him in the jungle and leave him but also his dad dragon and his mom witch is unknown also he had to see shanks loose his arm because he was helpless to a sea king left him for his grandpa also Naruto had the nine tail fox in him witch made the village hate him so if you would ask me there pretty equal.
This is not even a debate ...i always have teary eyes when i think about how this little orphan rose to become the hokage ...he had nothing but his determination and he finally has everything and the family he always dreams of
Luffy had a pretty good child hood he had Garp, Dadan, Sabo, Ace and those mountain bandits and Naruto had an allowance from the 3rd Hokage as a 5 year old with no supervision or anything
Definitely Naruto physical pain is nothing compared to what Naruto and Gaara had to go through, his parents died even before he was born and he was kind of a direct cause for his father Minato dying so there is that guilt. Also having people hate him just for being born is in a whole other league of agony, I love both the characters but honest Uzumaki had it worse
Yeh I know how much loneliness hurts i am even crying while writing this but I always had to put a smile on my face wether it is real or fake i have no friends because of constant transfers and my family lives too far away
Thats true being alone is more painfull than being hurt thats why i think akainu is just broken bec no one likes him and he was prob alone in his past and pirates probably did something to him thats why hes like that. I do think that being hurt and being alone is more painfull than the two
This is what a think they both equally suffered and no one should fight about who suffered more because there is no point in that all I have to say is they both suffered in different terrible ways like brothers from different universes❤
It's so sickening seeing people hate on others based on opinions and arguments over stupid things, while they say the same exact thing over and over again in different points of view, desperately getting nowhere.
i told you,, Naruto changed the life of mine with crore people's. I ranked no 1 in college studies. Should i show you my results if you please? Naruto anime gives the best motivation
“ he had the hokage looking after him “ they say as they use the clip where naruto was so hungry and nobody would give him food that he had to go fish for his own food outside the safety of the village
Everyone say that Naruto was alone ALL his childhood, but realy it was to age of idk 5 maybe 6, but don't forget about: Hinata, Shikamaru and Choji. Luffy before he get to Goa Kingdom was also alone and had only Garp (that is why he wanted to became friends with Ace and Sabo) Reason why Narutos backstory is sadder is cuz Luffy didn't care that much about the sad things or lonelynes (tell Sabo died)He was still going and geting stronger and he was smiling when he was happy, Naruto was smiling even when he was sad.
Yeah your definitely right because you can look at other characters like goku who had pretty much nothing in till about 14 yet he was happy just the way it was
Bro I always thought luffy had like the best childhood, he’s just screwing around with his brothers and even tho sabo died ace helped him move on from it.
Bro narutos parents both died and the third hokage stoped taking care of him luffys parents may have abandoned him but he still had dandan,ace, and sabo. Naruto was always alone people hated him for having the ninetails inside of him.
Naruto childhood was enveloped by loneliness and hatred from the village. This isn't a debate.
It isn't bc luffy's is still worse
@@dude6074lol no
It’s close but torture
Imo
@@OmniKitlol yes
What's the biggest joke in Naruto?
Me: The Hokage taking care of Naruto.
Hoekage
Me: Sakura existing
Nah... Sarutobi is not that bad
@@Central_controlnah, jokes have a meaning
@@wolfang08 fair point
Leaving Dandan off of Luffy’s immediate support group is a crime
word man
Agree
dadan is the goat
Bro your tapping
Sheep *@@imyellowteeth4691
Ah yes, the hokage was DEFINITELY looking after Naruto...
Why wasnt Hokage looking after naruto for literally no reason? Idk why naruto got so many plotholes
In hell
@seggsmaster9704 it's also because Minato wanted the 3rd to take care of his son
@seggsmaster9704can't you just like you know make someone to look after him if you are busy by yourself especially when that child parents are dead to save basically your asses?
@@taiwong5635again hokage was too busy , the village came first
"Had the hokage looking after him"
Me: That was a good one
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Not to mention: the constant fist of love Luffy got from his grandfather (emphasis on LOVE)
Yup tough love
Luffy was build different you've gotta accept it
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He probably had fun, when he was thrown in the jungle.
garp tied him to a ballon and let him go
Bro, luffy got yeeted places by garp just for saying he want to be a pirate
Kk
I think even Luffy would say Naruto's is worse because he himself hates being alone more than anything.
exactlyyyy thank youuu
But here’s the real question, was he truly alone? The answer to this isn’t really easy to get especially since most people think he was.
I’m not gonna ask you what loneliness means and sound all nerdy but being alone and loneliness are two different words headed in the same direction, they mean almost the same thing except being alone is a literal statement, loneliness is more of a restrictive psychological experience and anyone and almost everyone can experience it.
@@skidek1268 you can still be all alone in a crowd who doesnt notice you or doesn’t give a fck about you. You can still be alone in a group who doesnt care for you. If you have no company with u, u are alone. Which roots into being lonely.
Only until someone actually cares and pays attention to you, is when ur no longer alone.
@@YuuriDaFox well the thing is he did have someone who cared for him and that was iruka sensei and before that ramen guy, literally the only reason he went there was because he was lonely and needed someone to talk to.
For the most part Luffy actually enjoyed his childhood
Because he is luffy, he made all those things look less worse than they actually were. Ace neglected him and Luffy sometimes had near death experiences due to that and in starting dadan didn't wanted to take for him but she had to due to pressure of garp. It's just that it was luffy that made it look wholesome and funny rather than sad.
Because luffy ain't a crybaby...that's how luffy is ...that doesn't mean he had a better childhood than Naruto.
@@hakaishinhelles5194 I know but I was just saying
@@hakaishinhelles5194luffy had it better but that doesn’t mean he had it good it’s was still bad he was going through things. But he still had people like how tmir stated, whereas Naruto was basically all alone and was going through a lot of mental pain. He was safe sure, but he was going through a lot and had no one like luffy. Just cuz we say luffy had it better doesn’t mean he had it good ok.
@@hakaishinhelles5194stop the cap 🧢
Naruto did have safety in his village, despite that there were several adult who wanted to kill him. In the first episode Naruto steals a scroll with forbidden jutsu, and the first thing they wanted to do was kill him, there was a group that was even planning on going behind the hokage back and killing him in the woods, and in the manga choji's dad was one of them. Not to mention Naruto didn't find out the reason he was being ostracized until he was 12, so a good chunk of his life he was being ruthlessly bullied and ignored for no reason. Maybe watch the anime before you make this argument.
Sounded like he agreed Naruto had it worse.
@@rossnunez3512 Maybe his telling the people who's reading the comments to do research before arguing with him... Pls don't take it the wrong way (don't be mad at me pls TwT)
You've gotta accept it, luffy was build different.
I don't think he'll even care if people hate him and unlike naruto he wouldn't even try to be accepted by anyone.
@@Ornylwhy do you think luffy’s emotional endurance is built like that? Maybe because he had a support system
@@VeryHuman101 support system? More like his family genetics.
The entire narutoverse is lucky that naruto didn't turn out like they treat him
Hiruzen did NOT look after Naruto, he stopped Minato from coming back to life so he wouldn't see how his son is treated
How did he not "allow" minato from coming back to life
@@Kledian123it's a meme when hiruzen was fighting orochimaru and orochimaru used impure world reincarnation 3 coffins appeared the first 2 coffins contains the 1st and 2nd hokage and he stopped the 3rd coffin which would have minato so he technically stopped minato from coming back to life
Bro , minato's soul was sealed by reaper death seal jutsu , so it is impossible to reincarnate him as reincarnation jutsu requires a free soul . Hiruzen was scared because he thought that in the third box could be madara or gara's father(this is just an assumption). And if your question is how minato got reincarnated in the great ninja war , then see this orochimaru first used the reverse of reaper death seal to free their souls . So he was able to reincarnate minato
“Had the hokage looking after him.”
Sure he did.
The hokage gave sasuke a balcony and a tv and a nicer room then Naruto and Naruto could only afford ramen so no wonder why he was obsessed with it and he pretty much the let the villagers to bully Naruto
"Looking after" is a very strong word for what hiruzen did
What's crazy is that neuro ended up befriending his grandson anyway, so like, why not just have your son and daughter in law adopt Naruto???
@@sirius1696it's simple. No one wanted too. They were scared of the jine tails sealed inside of him
Physical trauma goes to luffy.
Mental trauma goes to Naruto
This is fax
best take on this.
Can't say anything, this is w take.
facts
Hm I don’t know what to say about this it isn’t like Naruto was beating by children and adults alike almost every day
These are two different types of pain it’s like comparing oranges with a horse
Why are you comparing fruit with an animal? 😐😑
@@samar9614 because it’s an example of the video because they are different
@@midnight_lunar true, you're righ.
Luffy doesn't care about what others think about him, but, Naruto does.
Luffy is the best representation of freedom. but, Naruto is opposite
Naruto is a good representation of forgiveness. But, luffy is opposite.
Truly they are polar opposite 😅😞
As an actual One Piece fan: this ain’t even a competition Luffy genuinely didn’t have a bad childhood.
I’m not trying to be rude or to contradict anyone, but I’m just saying the average person would have died within a week if they were in Luffy’s shoes
@@stormxyz513bruhh he is the mc so he won't die lol
@@ArthxrLeywin I don't think you understood my comment
@@stormxyz513luffys childhood to the average shonen Mc is prob like a walk in the park
@@PulseRe Yeah, but what I'm saying is that the average person would not survive 5 seconds
Imagine being hated by everyone in your city. And only eating ramen packets every day, even though you're a child soldier that needs nutrition. And your crush is in love with your closest friend, and your closest friend becomes a terrorist.
Dang, really puts it into perspective
That’s the life of a lot kids in a normal country. Compare that to growing up in a literal war zone with criminals and gang leaders lol. Average American kid vs average somalian kid, who u think got it easier? Emotional pain is ok but your life being constantly on the line? Come on chief. It’s a no brainer.
@@ringgame that’s a terrible way of looking at things, humans are more complex than “only violence means suffering”
That’s why the phrase, walking in another’s shoes, exists. It’s not a piss contest, pain is equal. There are different means that cause pain but downplaying others experiences is outright evil if you can’t comprehend what the person is going through.
Crush is a trash now
@@ringgamewe don't live in USA , America Britain it's not like it in our country don't mention 3veryone in it
Being alone IS worse than being hurt.
Also, "had the Hokage looking after him", only if you consider throwing a little child into an appartment, by himself, isn't really looking after him.
This is not even close. Sure, Luffy had some rough spots in his childhood, but he was always to be able to bounce back very quickly because there were people who took care of Luffy.
Naruto was lonely for almost his entire childhood and was ostracized by his village as a monster. The only reason he did not become one was because he had Iruka who treated like a normal kid.
Iruka also hated him at first because his parents also died to Kurama, he just started to be nice to him after realising he was also bullied as a child.
Your logic here is that “luffy has better mental fortitude, ergo he had a less tough childhood”
@@arjunstudies28 bro just cuz we said luffy had it better doesn’t mean he had it good he still had to got through shit. But still Naruto went through worse and had no support for his dream unlike luffy.
@@arjunstudies28that is what a support system is for. Ya’know, to help you get through the tough times. Which, yes, can help build fortitude.
Naruto went through stuff that would make most indifferent and sad or a angry person.
But Luffy went through shit that would break most people! torture, multiple near death experiences before the age of 8, the loss of a brother and his parents left him.
Just think about this way if you had to pick which life you would experience from birth till they are 18 which would you pick Luffy´s or Naruto´s.
"Naruto was in a safe village "
Also orochimaru : Lets kill third tomorrow and crush konoha
Their mny characters in one piece with a very sad back story but the back story of any character in Naruto just hits different
How ??? , I have seen Naruto and seen back stories from Naruto and said alright, then I saw backstory from one piece and went wow that's dark , I would rather have experienced Naruto child hood , than some of things that happened in one piece
@@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218then you never payed attention when watching naruto. For most of the part luffy enjoyed his childhood. While naruto had to go through alot of mental trauma. And yes luffy spent an entire night crying because of sabo's quote on quote death.but that is no match for naruto spending most of his nights crying to himself and having no friends
@@cheeseboys1700 firstly I never said Luffy had worse childhood than Naruto, well I find it hard to relate to Naruto bc I am mostly an introvert and loner I very good at keeping myself happy , Naruto suffered more bc of his an extrovert and wanted everyone attention , if I was Naruto I would have just cared about teuchi(ramen guy) and 3rd hokage and I wouldn't have cared much about the other villagers ,I might not hate the village (bc i see hating someone a waste of energy) but I wouldn't go out of my way get acknowledged by them either , if Naruto had a family that he had memories with and he remembered losing them with i would understand his pain more but he didnt , naruto never knew what loosing someone u care about felt like until way later when he became a ninja so I can't really sympathize with him that much . If I was naruto shoes ,I don't see myself going out of my way to prank the villagers to gain acknowledgement , most of time I would either be training to be ninja or engaging in my own hobbies , maybe i would eventually inherit the will of fire but i doubt what happened to naruto would have affected me that much , too me naruto pain is subjective ,if u were to ask me i would say Sasuke , gaara and kakashi backstories were more harsher than Naruto's backstory i resonate with one piece backstories more bc they are more filled with lose of loved ones, mental trauma , physical trauma and betrayal than anything I have seen in naruto
@@arinzechukwuonyekwuluje2218 Sasuke watched his parents die 1000 times
@@KedrickFieldsway more then that but yes the point still stands
Ah yes, luffy had it worse
Naruto:no parents, hated by the village, nobody to help him
Luffy:parent, Ace and Sabo, mountain bandits
Naruto had it worst for the fact that he was alone for most of his life. The hokage really didn’t look after him that much. He didn’t have a real father figure until iruka accepted him.
Luffy : is like a normal kid who had to struggle for his living .
Naruto : while naruto had a completely broken past
To be fair Naruto had a bad enviroment for mental health and Luffy was constantly at risk of dying(often because of Garp). Luffy had better mental health Naruto had better physical health.
Luffy had better physical health too, he was fighting wild animals and stuff at the age of 7-10
@@mohdfarazuddin9941 I mean physical health as in he wasn't constantly at risk of death or grave bodily harm
Comparing trauma is honestly feels disrespectful to be honest and I'm ok with power scaling bias, like seriously it pisses me of if they made those posts as a glazing bias points.
Dandan and the bandits did a better job taking care of Luffy than the Hokage did with Naruto. Luffy had it easy.
"Go hunt for your food" vs "Naruto here is your money for ramen this month"
@@rikiro3956 "being alone is more painful than getting hurt"
~ Monkey D. Luffy.
@@rikiro3956bro Hiruzen barely gave my boy Naruto any money tf u on abt
@@rikiro3956he didn’t have money for ramen💀
@@rikiro3956in the manga he didn't have money most of the time he literally go to catch fish to eat did you read the manga 😂
Luffy was happy, he had friends and family all around him, naruto had no one, he was all alone and was hated for no reason ever since he was born.
Shikamaru and choji was friends with him and the ramen guy and if naruto didn't have tail beast no one would not hate him
Naruto was the son of a hokage but basically grew up poor as hell with no one truly invested in his training or him even living. We saw what kind of father the 3rd was with Asuma he was trash only person 3rd hokage seem to ever care for was Orichomaru. Garp beat up on luffy physically but it was to make him strong and even let him go after his dream of being a pirate and luffy had real friends that become family, hell naruto didn’t even have that till he was a teenager with Jiraya even kakashi put most of his energy into Sasuke
"and had the hokage look after him" 💀💀💀💀💀
Naruto’s parents died, almost dies in every arc, is the reason Jiryia has that gnarly chest scar, was hated by basically everyone in his village, and was unable to properly use jutsus and was harassed by everyone due to being a jinchuriki, and having his best friend abandon him. Keep in mind that basically ww4 happened on his birthday and neji also died on his bday along with like 50,000 other people. oh yeah i forgot one the only person that gave more than a shit about naruto died to some dude named pain, after that there was only 4 people that gave a shit about him, ichiraku and iruka when naruto was a little kid, sakura after the land of waves ark, and tsnade after the search for tsunade ark.
All that really happened to luffy is him being thrown in the woods, he thinks sabo dies, robin leaves then they save her, and ace dies.
Or as Naruto said it, its not being alone that hurts but its being around people that make you feel alone.
Even luffy knew Naruto had it worse
Bro got me when he said 'hokage looking after naruto'
Honestly I'm gonna have to say that Luffy's childhood was pretty messed up, he just doesn't care about it and doesn't let it bother him. While Naruto cardied that trauma with him when he grew up.
gosh u must be a 9 years old, luffy had 2 brothers, dadan, garp & everyone taking care of him, while naruto had none, are you just that d*mb?.
or you're just one of those biased one piece fanboy?.
@@UnboxEnjoyer how? I like them both equally. I'm just saying they're written differently
@@UnboxEnjoyer naruto fanboy
Only sad thing that happened with luffy is he lost his brother. He fell in many trouble but he over come those with the help from his brothers. He was loved by ace,sabo, shanks, garp, dadan and the whole village along with Makino. So i did not get it how his childhood is sad.
Luffy CHOSE to go through some of those hardships so he could be a great pirate and he ignored his guardians who tried to keep him safe
naruto had the entire village hating on him since birth due to something he didnt know or control
At least Luffy had people to talk too
Pretty much Naurto had the worse childhood
Lmao the 3rd hokage looked after Naruto HILARIOUS
He forgot that his parents died when he was born and luffy lost his parents bc they abandoned him when he was 4 or 5 or 6
Naruto had it worse, and it’s not even close. He was hated by everyone except like 3 or 4 people, had to live on expired milk and ramen for his whole life, had no family, was always alone, always got bullied, oh also not to mention the hokage who was supposed to be looking after him only gave him some allowance, and that’s not even all
And we didn't even mention the fact that Naruto had no parents and at least Luffy has a father, while not directly involved in his life at least he has a fairly good reason for why.
Yall are high af😊
@@ringgame how?
@@Ichilimin live life of average american/japanese/uk kid vs life of average Venezuelan/palestinian/congo kid. Which u picking?
@@ringgameyou're delusional if you think Luffy had it worse
Hiruzen only protected naruto from the enemies but he didnt give him food to eat or even house to live
One of them literally had a fun childhood that did have certain unfortunate aspects but the other had literally no one and hated everything. Like if he had the option luffy would 100% go back to being a kid but naruto would not
What is fun about hunting your lunch and surving in the wild or with bandits. Naruto was FEELING lonely but played every day on the playground with other kids till sunset, only then he felt lonely cuz of others parents. Mental diff
@@rikiro3956 one enjoyed his childhood the other didn’t
@@rikiro3956nah, I think Naruto would 100% much prefer to live in luffy's childhood than what was he had.
Even luffy himself basically agreed naruto had it worst lol
As a huge one piece fan Naruto def had the more tragic upbringing also not to mention the anime makes it look a lot better than the manga actually is.
Being alone is more hurtful than getting hurt I feel that I feel that 😢😢
I’d rather be raised lonely than literally get tortured before I was seven years old, have both of my parents abandoned me and have to live the trauma that a person that I cared about dearly lost their arm because of me
Just wondering, did you watch Naruto? There's alot more than just being lonely.
@@OmniKit it is only loneliness, naruto didn’t know why the villagers kept away from him they were afraid of Naruto so Naruto thought he was hated and without parents there was no love to keep him from thinking negatively
That’s it, the reason people think Naruto has one of the saddest backstorys ever is because of how the anime portrayed it and even added filler to it, and it would still make sense if Naruto didn’t suffer as much because the shinobi world is very dark so if Naruto suffered as much as garra he wouldn’t care to use talk no jutsu which would in the future change the world
Luffy tortures himself most of the time he CHOSE to be a pirate and did dangerous stuff so he could be a pirate his guardian actively tries to keep him safe but he runs of into dangerous situations causing garp to train him so he wont get himself killed in the future everyone around him loved and cared for him even if he didnt have parents
Even tho naruto didnt have it that bad he still never really had anyone postive to him(fck hiruzen) in his childhood everyone hated him for something he didnt know and he couldnt do anything about it
If a regular guy was in place of luffy he would listen to garp and stay at hime and grow up as a regular person a lot of luffys "torture" is self inflicted
@@LORDANK84 you saved me a lot of time, thanks.
@@LORDANK84 I know luffy chooses to let himself get hurt and garp wants to keep luffy safe from the sea dangers but there’s no much wrong with your comment I assumed I read it wrong so could you explain luffy and garps character motives in the past
Luffy had people he could turn to, Naruto had no one for a good chunk of his life. Sure both did not have parents but one had friends he could fall back on. Heck both stories make me cry
If yall want a sad backstory look no further then Sanji or brook
Yeah this is Naruto, at least Garp visited at least meanwhile the Hokage was absent that it was just a joke like the guy was tasked with taking care of Minatos son and none of that happened.
Salute you bro for being a real anime fan not toxic
Naruto had I worst bro grew up an orphan and was despised by his whole village at one point in time
The fact that luffy was abandoned my his both parents but actually Luffy doesn't give a shit to this
i wouldn't either tbh
I love luffy but tgis is literally a debate of who had it rough from the beginning. Even sasuke said something in their final fight when he was using his shadow clones. That he uses his clones as a distraction of reality that naruto is lonely and was alone from the beginning.
Dont even wanna compare them its more than enough to say that they both were equally tortured and suffered at the beginning but later found wisdom and their journey long or short was their path to happiness and peace
The difference is
Luffy when he had to hunt food for himself
-YEAAA I GOT ME SOME FOOD.
Naruto when he had to hunt food for himself
- Damn nigga I'm so poor i can't buy food
Luffy not having his father
- I got a father? I thought i never had ond
Naruto- i never met my father damn
Ok, it is not even close. Sure, Luffy did suffer mote physical abuse compared to Naruto, but they only lasted for a short while. More importantly, Luffy had people he can talk to if he was having any trouble. When Sabo ‘died’, Luffy still had Ace to help him process his emotions. When Shanks sacrifices his arm to save Luffy, Shanks comforted Luffy that it was ok because and that incident just taught Luffy a lesson about being ready to become a pirate. Whenever something terrible happened to Luffy, he was able to bounce back soon after, especially when he had other people looking after him.
Naruto, on the other hand, only had Iruka, and was ostracized by the entire village. Sure, the Third Hokage made sure Naruto had a roof over his head and food to eat, but he rarely interacted directly with Naruto. Naruto was miserable for almost his entire childhood and he could have become worse had it not been for Iruka offering a supporting hand and believe in Naruto to become a great ninja one day.
For physical pain it’s Luffy and if it’s emotional pain it’s Naruto
You actually have to be delusional to think Luffy's childhood is comparable to Naruto's, Naruto's was far worse and it's not even a contest.
Luffy actually had people who cared for him, was always having fun with his two older brothers and even had a role model like Shanks he wanted to become like.
While Naruto was hated and treated horribly by pretty much everyone in the village, had no one looking after him except for the 3rd Hokage giving him money to live off, didn't have anyone in his life actually care about him until around the time he became a Genin.
And the 3rd Hokage did somewhat care about Naruto but didn't do nearly enough to prevent his childhood suffering as he was pretty much the only one with the power to prevent it.
Sure Luffy had some dangerous moments in his childhood and sabo did "die" but losing someone is not as bad as never having anyone to begin with, Luffy's childhood wasn't even bad tbh, sure it wasn't perfect but he was happy during his childhood outside when Sabo "died".
Well Naruto childhood is worst then luffy no home sometime no money to eat not even a single friend But luffy has some things well luffy life is very good on my perspective
Oh yeah the third hokage was totally looking after him he would bring like four year old Naruto money 😂😂😂😂
Hey you forgot garp is using punch love to luffy 😅
"luffy had garp"
My mind:to try to kill him😂💀
Luffy and his brothers were the most famous criminals in grey terminal
They lived the good life
Luffy had a pretty bad childhood afterall in the anime it says that grandpa garp will throw him in the jungle and leave him but also his dad dragon and his mom witch is unknown also he had to see shanks loose his arm because he was helpless to a sea king left him for his grandpa also Naruto had the nine tail fox in him witch made the village hate him so if you would ask me there pretty equal.
honestly people overestimate what its like to be lonely or ostracized it isn’t even that bad
Bro luffy had a rly good childhood
its not even close to really good but he did have it better than naruto
The definition of mind set changes everything
Garp as a supporter is crazy
This is not even a debate ...i always have teary eyes when i think about how this little orphan rose to become the hokage ...he had nothing but his determination and he finally has everything and the family he always dreams of
naruto, luffy werent through alot but i know people in real life that went through more
There’s a difference between having a bad childhood and a hard childhood.
Luffy already said once to ace that being alone is more painful than getting hurt
Luffy had a pretty good child hood he had Garp, Dadan, Sabo, Ace and those mountain bandits and Naruto had an allowance from the 3rd Hokage as a 5 year old with no supervision or anything
Loneliness hurts more than any kind of physical pain...
Being alone as social creatures is one of the WORST feelings in the world. One that can lead to one's own demise. ya know...
Definitely Naruto physical pain is nothing compared to what Naruto and Gaara had to go through, his parents died even before he was born and he was kind of a direct cause for his father Minato dying so there is that guilt. Also having people hate him just for being born is in a whole other league of agony, I love both the characters but honest Uzumaki had it worse
Yeh I know how much loneliness hurts i am even crying while writing this but I always had to put a smile on my face wether it is real or fake i have no friends because of constant transfers and my family lives too far away
Thats true being alone is more painfull than being hurt thats why i think akainu is just broken bec no one likes him and he was prob alone in his past and pirates probably did something to him thats why hes like that. I do think that being hurt and being alone is more painfull than the two
This is what a think they both equally suffered and no one should fight about who suffered more because there is no point in that all I have to say is they both suffered in different terrible ways like brothers from different universes❤
It's so sickening seeing people hate on others based on opinions and arguments over stupid things, while they say the same exact thing over and over again in different points of view, desperately getting nowhere.
i told you,, Naruto changed the life of mine with crore people's. I ranked no 1 in college studies. Should i show you my results if you please? Naruto anime gives the best motivation
Luffy still got a grandfather, Dadan and Ace,Sabo. Where Naruto had nothing in his childhood.
Yep, cauz getting hurt is physically hurt and living alone is mentally hurt
The thing about the op of the twitter post forgot to mention about luffy is that dragon abandoned him for luffy’s own safety
luffy had a good childhood but then he had traumatic experiences naruto is the opposite
Garps training is one hell of a torture even though it was shown in funny way it was dangerous
Yes the third HOKAGE giving naruto 10 dollars a month "taking care of naruto"
Also Luffy had quite a lot of fun even when these things were happening
Looking after him💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
“ he had the hokage looking after him “ they say as they use the clip where naruto was so hungry and nobody would give him food that he had to go fish for his own food outside the safety of the village
Everyone say that Naruto was alone ALL his childhood, but realy it was to age of idk 5 maybe 6, but don't forget about: Hinata, Shikamaru and Choji. Luffy before he get to Goa Kingdom was also alone and had only Garp (that is why he wanted to became friends with Ace and Sabo)
Reason why Narutos backstory is sadder is cuz Luffy didn't care that much about the sad things or lonelynes (tell Sabo died)He was still going and geting stronger and
he was smiling when he was happy, Naruto was smiling even when he was sad.
Garp makes the Marines fear protecting luffy from his hits
Everyone in Windmill village love Luffy. Usually, The Hero is always hated by their hometown.
Yeah your definitely right because you can look at other characters like goku who had pretty much nothing in till about 14 yet he was happy just the way it was
Safe in a village full of people that hated him....
Bro I always thought luffy had like the best childhood, he’s just screwing around with his brothers and even tho sabo died ace helped him move on from it.
Bro narutos parents both died and the third hokage stoped taking care of him luffys parents may have abandoned him but he still had dandan,ace, and sabo. Naruto was always alone people hated him for having the ninetails inside of him.
You:his brother died You trying to say Naruto had it harder: he had all of his brothers💀
Luffy hearing ‘garp’ be like:😅