Implicit differentiation | Advanced derivatives | AP Calculus AB | Khan Academy

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  • Some relationships cannot be represented by an explicit function. For example, x_+y_=1. Implicit differentiation helps us find dy/dx even for relationships like that. This is done using the chain _rule, and viewing y as an implicit function of x. For example, according to the chain rule, the derivative of y would be 2y_(dy/dx). Created by Sal Khan.
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  • @malihareza4754
    @malihareza4754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +141

    "Let me do that in a different color..."-sal in every lessom

  • @mariakhan6090
    @mariakhan6090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    There have been a thousand maths teachers on TH-cam, but nothing compares to Sal ♥️ thanks, sir

    • @aamirhooda937
      @aamirhooda937 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fr. He explains it so intuitively!

  • @beastlybob572
    @beastlybob572 8 ปีที่แล้ว +194

    Okay, i just learned in 8 minutes what my calculus professor failed to teach in 2 hours of class time!

  • @bebarshossny8405
    @bebarshossny8405 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    this channel is literally a gold mine

    • @Man-ds9ir
      @Man-ds9ir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bebars Hossny
      And 6million people have already found it

    • @Man-ds9ir
      @Man-ds9ir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @SadikKhan-wt8cs
      @SadikKhan-wt8cs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Man-ds9ir the best part is, that doesn't make it any less valuable.

    • @Man-ds9ir
      @Man-ds9ir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SadikKhan-wt8cs
      Yeppppppp

  • @brendonbalascan6814
    @brendonbalascan6814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I didn't learn this right in calc 1 and i'm revisiting it for my calc 3 class and it's completely blowing my mind how this works. You can really just treat the derivatives as operators? that's insane.

    • @noahgeorge7357
      @noahgeorge7357 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That struck me too. If you get to upper division proof based math, you'll soon realize pretty much any operation in math is defined by an Operator i.e.(Integral, differentiation, matrix operations are all types of operators)

  • @xobk
    @xobk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just when I start feeling like calculus is becoming an endless series of garbled numbers and symbols, it goes and wows me again with something like this!

    • @hellozukohere6514
      @hellozukohere6514 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally feels like each week they add something worse. Khan academy's barely helping at this point with all these topics to keep up with.

  • @dAvrilthebear
    @dAvrilthebear 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thank you, Khan! As usual, simple, clear and concise.

  • @EmpyreanLightASMR
    @EmpyreanLightASMR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:30 I think this is what i've been hunting for across the universe. In fact, I didn't even know d/dx MEANT anything other than "you're deriving with respect to x"... but you're making it sound like it's vastly more important.

    • @goodgamers777
      @goodgamers777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you, that makes more sense.

  • @JBMgo
    @JBMgo 11 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Leibniz's notation is so much easier for the Chain Rule and its applications! Try to learn implicit diferenciation using the f-prime notation and you will have a hard time.

    • @sushant2664
      @sushant2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am just learning, but I find Leibniz notation much more natural because of how explicit it is. It should really be only way to learn chain rule ( g'(x) • f'{g(x)} makes absolutely no sense ) and consequently implicit differentiation.

  • @sundayjohnson6433
    @sundayjohnson6433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sal is the best math teacher online that I've watched so far

  • @ajstordeur1857
    @ajstordeur1857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this man its 2am I'm up to doing delta math having not a single clue what implicit differentiation is and this man just saved my life for my test tomorrow. I saw that green chack on my delta math and screamed yes so loud that I'm baffled my parents didn't wake up. I love this man.

  • @gameprofile3725
    @gameprofile3725 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You guys are doing wonderful job . Keep it up . Love Khan academy .

  • @katrinaWHATx10
    @katrinaWHATx10 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    whoa, perfect timing! I have an exam on this tomorrow. thank you so much! I finally get it.

    • @AshmitManak
      @AshmitManak 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, so much happened with you in these 10 years

  • @pandapanda338
    @pandapanda338 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was stuck on a problem for 2 hours now, until i found this amazing explanation
    As always Khan Academy to the rescue!

  • @rampant6055
    @rampant6055 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was so helpful, especially putting d/dx (y(x))^2 thank you very much. Made my life much easier

  • @gilbertobarajas2487
    @gilbertobarajas2487 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you, Sal and company! This helps so much

  • @EDUARDO12348
    @EDUARDO12348 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a great example, and finally, implicit diff clicked for me.

  • @enkephalin07
    @enkephalin07 ปีที่แล้ว

    This contributes little to solving other differential equation, but at least it's not nothing. Breaking the terms down into separate differential operators does help clarify a novel variant of the problem, but that's not often enough.

  • @jeffmurphy2208
    @jeffmurphy2208 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. That makes so much sense.

  • @TomAustinIII
    @TomAustinIII 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful for building confidence

  • @mattdabney1927
    @mattdabney1927 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The help text at 0:33 in the Khan Academy lesson should say (-1, 1) since he's discussing the interval over which x has multiple y values defined.

  • @manuelkarner8746
    @manuelkarner8746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:29 "might be a little bit cleare" lol I searched 2 intense hours for exactly this chaining explanation (without knowing)
    THANKS !

  • @DiaryOfAlexPhoto
    @DiaryOfAlexPhoto 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally makes sense...

  • @myron_jd1272
    @myron_jd1272 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG FINALLY I UNDERSTAND, ITS JUST CHAIN RULE TY!!

  • @speedspeed121
    @speedspeed121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Sal distracting everyone with his multi color pens

    • @jqyhlmnp
      @jqyhlmnp 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, now that you pointed it out :D

    • @ayiboroberts7503
      @ayiboroberts7503 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really right 🤣😂👍😉😉👍👍

  • @Dij21
    @Dij21 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make it all so simple, thank you!!! When I saw this in lecture, was scared lol

  • @kelvinfilyk3413
    @kelvinfilyk3413 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    IT ALL MAKES SENSE

  • @isabelamcneilly-anta5477
    @isabelamcneilly-anta5477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    omg i needed help on hw on explicit differentiation and this is the EXACT problem

  • @muhammadhamza4494
    @muhammadhamza4494 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Khan academy saves me everytime from getting bad results...

  • @jimcar53
    @jimcar53 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks very much. Learnt a lot

  • @sjurhodnesdal5250
    @sjurhodnesdal5250 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video!

  • @ppbonner3816
    @ppbonner3816 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    awesome video wow thanks

  • @ryanwusmc
    @ryanwusmc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks.

  • @EndermanJandy
    @EndermanJandy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I failed my test on this lesson today so ima use khan now 😂

  • @whoopsiedaisy9620
    @whoopsiedaisy9620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankssss!! This was really helpful:-)

  • @Axceed1
    @Axceed1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What does dy/dx even "mean" when when y can not be written explicitly in x?
    Often y will not be a single valued function of x, and if I go back to the limit definition, dy/dx will not exist because y approaches multiple values.

    • @nasaman23
      @nasaman23 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      the unknown derivative of a function

    • @64Jro
      @64Jro 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the 3blue1brown video of implicit diff.

  • @EasyFunAITraining
    @EasyFunAITraining 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Where does the (dy / dx) come from? o_o

    • @FireVortex720
      @FireVortex720 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because it is a separate variable(y). Hence, dy/dx.

    • @shamaranderson7755
      @shamaranderson7755 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's the derivative of y

  • @afiatabassum1517
    @afiatabassum1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u very much sir
    But the derivative of that relation is not a function right?
    Is it another relation?

  • @zack_120
    @zack_120 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Implicit differentiation is very weird in many cases. Doing it in this case (x^2+y^2=1) appears to be unnecessary. One just needs to rearrange it as shown at the upper right corner, y=±sqrt(1-x^2), and take the derivative as usual non-implicitly. The absolute results are the same with the advantage showing both solutions, ±x/y whereas the implicit way as shown here just gets -x/y, a half of the complete solutions. So, what is wrong here?

  • @jackchen188
    @jackchen188 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this guy

  • @rjt1789
    @rjt1789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Itis very nice to learn this way, thank you. However im a bit confused when it comes to terms such as 5xy2, how would i find the derivative of that with the dy/dx thing? Power rule?

  • @revantthakur8495
    @revantthakur8495 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sal took just 8 minutes to teach me implicit differentiation while my professor took an entire lecture.

  • @wd3770
    @wd3770 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    a good explanation

  • @pedrov8868
    @pedrov8868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Math is beautiful

  • @aponmasrur8116
    @aponmasrur8116 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    in implicit differentiation why we assume y as a function of x?

  • @Lester806
    @Lester806 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your explained better than my textbook lol

  • @skyetsosie372
    @skyetsosie372 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have an exam tomorrow, and literally forgot what I learned just 5 weeks ago..smh

  • @technoultimategaming2999
    @technoultimategaming2999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get it
    Isn't
    d(x^2 + y^2)/dx
    d(x^2 + (y^2)(x^0))
    2x + 0y?!

    • @arandomghost8819
      @arandomghost8819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We cannot take the y out as y has some relation to x....I.e some change in x causes some change in y.....taking out y will only make sense in partial derivatives but that falls under multivariable calculus.....this is the total derivative we are talking about here

  • @YasamanChamacham-l9y
    @YasamanChamacham-l9y ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u you r saving my engineering degree hahaha

  • @rizwanrifaqat1399
    @rizwanrifaqat1399 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    greetings sir! I want to study the concept of differentiation and integration right from the very basic. can u please suggest me a tutorial?

    • @ellie_deli
      @ellie_deli 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Rizwan Rifaqat 3Blue1Brown is a fantastic channel with a 10 part introduction to calculus series.
      I hardly think this is relevant 10 months later, but hey ¯\_(ツ)_/ ¯

    • @Nino-eo8ey
      @Nino-eo8ey ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ellie_deli I wonder if its relevant 5 years later then...

    • @ellie_deli
      @ellie_deli ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nino-eo8ey math never loses its chic

  • @qualquan
    @qualquan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    why not use y = (1-x^2)^1/2 and then dy/dx by chain rule?

    • @drofeng
      @drofeng ปีที่แล้ว

      Perfectly valid. This is just a simple example of implicit differentiation

  • @김수민-x4j
    @김수민-x4j 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean why we should define those things...

  • @oblivion.4974
    @oblivion.4974 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is this useful for?

  • @christiancostanza9952
    @christiancostanza9952 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crispy understanding in tangent,?

  • @rosechoi7415
    @rosechoi7415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, I thought chain rule only applied to functions? A circle isn't a function

    • @rosechoi7415
      @rosechoi7415 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also why does Sal refer to y being a function of x at 4:15?

  • @rifat.ahammed
    @rifat.ahammed 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greaaaaaaaaaaaat

  • @SF-og3fq
    @SF-og3fq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess you could call it a relationship...

  • @michaelcalcagni5825
    @michaelcalcagni5825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bless

  • @thevibe2316
    @thevibe2316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn’t this more difficult than what the the organic tutor taught? Or is it just me?

  • @Zoolixify
    @Zoolixify 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no audio

  • @abdirahmanbashirosman3433
    @abdirahmanbashirosman3433 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U are using complicated and hardway I can answer this question with 1 minute

  • @buddy3387
    @buddy3387 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When is this going to help me in life??? Thanks a lot school system.

    • @MrJessr0x
      @MrJessr0x 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      hmmm maybe never, but just because you are useless to the world.

  • @maximmerle
    @maximmerle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    t y

  • @dbmuehroom8658
    @dbmuehroom8658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHY DOES HE SOUND LIKE RANBOO

  • @shawnthesheep2369
    @shawnthesheep2369 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol

  • @-__-_-_--__--_-__-_____--_-___
    @-__-_-_--__--_-__-_____--_-___ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fucken hate watching these on the website