I love these cars and I think you got a bargain. As someone who worked at a VW dealer for 10 years, my advice is as follows. Take it for MOT and ring Autoglass for the price of a rear screen. On the basis of this if you can do everything for £2K or less I would go for it. I think the front discs will clean up if the car is driven and the rears may be worth having skimmed. A rare, unusual and desirable car of that age and mileage with all its book pack, good tyres and reasonable service history is worth saving, especially a 4 motion version. I think it would be a tragedy to sell it for spares. I think these cars are future classics, please tidy it up and KEEP it, in another 5 years you will be glad you did. Think of it as a cut-price Bentley and not an expensive VW, cars like this will never be seen again.
We are unconscious when we are asleep or fainted. When we are unconscious, we have no thoughts, no emotions, and cannot see the world. When we are conscious, we know everything. Consciousness is thoughts, emotions, and everything in the world. This consciousness is one. Will consciousness be split in two? Consciousness is not divisible. Do you feel two consciousnesses when talking to a friend? Consciousness is felt only as one. Consciousness is one. I am Conscious and I am the World. Gospel of Thomas "For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one." Jesus said, "Two will recline on a couch; one will die, one will live." "For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness." Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup? Don't you understand that the one who made the inside is also the one who made the outside?" Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained. Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there." A [person said] to him, "Tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me." He said to the person, "Mister, who made me a divider?" He turned to his disciples and said to them, "I'm not a divider, am I?"
Personally, I would run it to a garage to see what it really needs, but I'd be fully prepared to not committing to the repairs. I'd say the first thing is to work out what it mechanically needs before anything else.
I do believe that I drove this car when it was new. I was a driver for Richard Alexander. Huddersfield. I drove it down to Gatwick Airport there and back twice . It was a dream car.
I think you answered your final question in your intro. They are quite rare, expensive to run and maintain and are without a doubt an enthusiasts car. Parted out this could be worth a multiple of what you paid. The interior looked good . Body panels seemed okay, lights and small parts, engine and gearbox. The fact that someone was forced to buy and fit a European shift lever tells you how rare these things are. I have a mate (I live in Germany) who had one of these and he said to me "It's great to drive when it's running, costs a fortune to run and God help you if breaks down and needs spares." In a case like that it's a sellers market. As you have commented on many occasions "It's just a rear light for 50-60 quid." but that was for freely available parts. Today 07.11.2023 here in Germany a set of used rear lights for this model costs 350 quid used! Overhauled engine 4 grand (just the block). Overhauled automatic gearbox 3,500 quid. 2,500 quid for a used set of seats and door panels similar those shown here. Food for thought?
Dangerous viewing is one thing, dangerous buying is another. I've not even watched it yet but I reckon it'll need at least another grand spent on it to be decent. Far too complicated and far too much kit to go wrong 😬
Me too😂 Such a pointless car.....I love them! I worked in a pub as a younger man and a regular turned up driving a brand new one , this was back in 2003, and it was the first one I ever saw, it was the awful gold/beige colour with the tan interior, it wasn't very pretty really but it was still cool when he parked it next to my MK2 Golf Driver! Turned out he was a VW sales manager and a little while later he turned up in the first R32 I ever saw, his usual ride was a high spec Bora or a Jazz blue MK4 GTi with full black leather, he was a cool guy, he turned up for his after work pint in an oak green mk2 GTI 16v once, the really rare one with the even rarer factory cream leather! It was a car that somebody had traded in at his dealership. So long ago now!
@@phoneitbuyitpickitup9212 That's a cool story. I wish I had some. I did work in a car dealership as a trainee salesman and they wouldn't let me drive a Lexus GS300 in cold weather because it was rear wheel drive. I did get to to drive a BMW 5 series once the weather was warmer 😂. Good Times
I’m not generally a VW guy but I’ve always really liked the Phaeton. A classy car. And I’m a sucker for grandad garden centre spec beige interiors. My advice would be to plough every penny you have into it.
I'm not a big fan of volkswagen cars but the phateon is the only German car I would consider buying because im a big fan of the interior. I would personally buy the citreon c6 because it is a better car.
Let's make this a group project! Put up a list of all the bits you need and we can have a competition amongst ourselves to source them as cheap as possible. Local scrappers, that sort of thing. Then maybe if it ever gets warm we could randomly pop into HPA and each tighten a bolt or something.
and then, once it is all fixed, a raffle, so one more or less lucky subscriber could win it. you have already enough cars you like and not drive much lol
This isn’t challenge anneka. Get rid of it for anything over the purchase price and move on. It’s done it’s job making a cracking video in the usual style. End of story
Hi Matt, its a solid car and could be a great project for someone. There is probably just as much, or more margin for you to punt it on for £1500-£2000 in its current conditon than you would get if you invested the time to sortout the issues. Its an ideal project for an enthusiast who doesnt have to pay for labour costs
Biggest expense is going to be the rear screen if you can find one. One on eBay in Leeds breaking for spares. The rest brakes etc are all available.Seems a shame to break this up as it isn't high on the miles
Low miles and clean leather interior mean it should be worthwhile at least properly costing up the repairs - we need to know what the Check Engine Light and Exhaust Workshop means!
I love the Phaeton's design. It's pretty much a 2000s masterpiece. Very elegant and solid at the same time. Yes it does look like a beefy Passat but that's not a bad thing.
Money pit as it is, this car has bucket loads going for it and deserves a fresh shot at life as only you can achieve. You could then raffle it to recoup your costs. The TH-cam content alone would be priceless and we would lap it up. Go on Matt, you know you cannot just walk away from this one.👍
I would love to see this car given another lease of life by you. Whether it is profitable is another matter. Whatever you decide. I hope we get a follow up video on your decision. P.s love the channel
The speed with which you can prod and poke a cigarette lighter or a sun visor never ceases to amaze me. You could have a second job as a sharp-shooter for SO19. Great channel ol' fruit. Keep up the good content.
Sounded sweet enough and with approx 80k miles it still has much life left in it to deliver. It probably isn't a good car for your business to turn round, but, a rough diamond for a home mechanic to put right over the course of a couple of spring months on his drive and use it for another 120k miles. Biggest aggro is the rear screen, the exhaust issue is likely down to too many short runs. She's probably a dream find for someone at the end of the rainbow with the time and skills plus the inclination to get a lowish mileage luxury motor for a bit less than they usually go for.
I'm enough of a fan of the Phaeton to know that you'd be opening up a world of hurt. Spares or repairs, someone with a similar one might be able to get one good one from theirs and yours.
Love the interior, very classy looking. This is the type of car that would suit a wedding car company or a funeral parlour. It oozes class and it would be great to see it looking all shiny and new again. The ultra low mileage for it's age and how nice the engine sounds suggests that there is quite a bit of life left in this car. You could imagine a driver in a chauffer outfit welcoming passengers into the rear compartment. It might be old but it really is a thing of beauty 😍
I think that’s a much nicer car than given credit for. It’s clearly sat up for a long time and the brakes with some use would surely come back. A good detail and a wheel refurb would leave it nice enough exterior wise. Then a decent service and it would probably do an MOT. Well worth doing and saving and it’s great content.
Had a friend who owned one of these. The electric boot lock failed, with no access through rear seats, so VW garage couldn't access the mechanism. The only solution was to cut a hole on the boot lid. I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. It's a total Friday afternoon afterthought of a design. It's a Markle car, looks good, rides well, multiple disappointed previous owners, but it has so many problems the owner will always regret ownership.
These are lovely cars and I don't think it needs that much to get back into reasonable condition, the biggest problems are the rear window and the transmission lever, the other parts could be after market parts and so not as expensive. I think it needs a good check over and then compile a list of what needs to be sourced and price it up.
Maybe see how much the parts are and then raffle shack it if it's viable? It's a lovely car and it's only done low miles. Be good for the channel to follow the progress. 🙂👍
I love the Phaeton. I've always wanted one but the potential for astronomical repair bills scared me off, especially with the air suspension. Oh and Phaetons are notorious for that corrosion, especially on the doors under the trim. Beautiful cars regardless.
I found one W12 6.2LT at a local dealer, like 2012 with seems real 190k km, seems in almost mint pristine conditions for like 10k... seems almost unreal, can be maybe the mainenace - repair cost?
I know you’re a business man and not a classic car renovator, but I’d love to see this given a new lease of life, maybe you should be kept within the TH-cam community on another channel that would get some decent content out of this car
Hi Matt, I owned an 06 3L and thought it was one of the best cars I had and did me for 7 years. Had a problem with the paint bubbling on the doors and took it back to VW. They resprayed the bottom half under warranty because it's an aluminium body with steel trim bolted through without proper separation washers. good luck with this one.
Might take a long while, but keep it till you find all the parts, & let us know as you find them. All people who REALLY love cars love the Phaeton, and it will be one more still on the road, & a good one to boot. I suspect the mechanical issues will be relatively minor, but I might be wrong.
Got a 06 w12. There's over a grand just in wheels and lights. Number 1 thing to do with any used phaeton is make sure that both batteries are good and charged. Bad batteries throw lots of false codes
Instantly clicked on this! A car that I dismissed as an enlarged Passat at launch……..but, when you look into the engineering, they are quite remarkable motors. You did well for a bag of sand!
Hi Matt. I think it's simple, but only due to it's rarity... If the rear screen and door mirror are cheap enough, do the basic jobs and stop spending money on wheel refurbs. Most people I know accept wheels get kerbed. If not break it for spares or pass it straight on. Take care.
I've got a 2010 XF-S. Lovely cars! The wheel nuts in the box are always worth having, the factory nuts are made of cheese and often snap when removing them if they've been overtightened! And this white XF has the optional 'Aero package' it has a different front bumper and curvy side skirts.
I’d personally suggest it isn’t worth the cost; which is a real shame as I’ve always had a soft spot for them. As you say, I’d be a little frustrated if I’d ploughed £80k into it from new and only got 80k miles out of it
Good point. One I've been trying to explain to people for years. Spend £120k on a car. Keep a full main dealer servicing at a cost of tens of thousands Do ONLY 80k miles Car falls apart and is worth nothing in the end. It's the modern plague of all these luxury brands Doesn't matter who makes it. A luxury car with only 80k miles is utterly worthless. Parts only ever get more expensive. Inflation. Car depreciates, but everything else inflates. Labour and parts. Why. Bother? Lease the bastard and dump it after 3 years. It's a mug's game buying old barges, as much as I love them and have bought many many old and cheap top spec BMW 7 Series and Merc S Class. Even if you're in the trade (cheap labour and they won't rob you). Life is too short to waste on these things. Unless you are M539 Renovations and can do it full time. Even then, it's only a few quid in profit. It's one thing enjoying these videos. It's another actually having to burn money in a skip fire. It's like trying to smother a skip fire by throwing so much money on it, that you starve it of oxygen and the fire stops.
@@ruk2023-- it's still a shagged car with only 80k miles. Someone always has to pay for it. You still pay for everything even when you lease it. I can't think of a bigger waste of time and money than old barges. I've wasted tens and tens of thousands. I could have easily have bought a 2 bed flat with the amount I've spent keeping a fleet of old BMW 7 Series maintained, which was my hobby. If you're a billionaire. Go for it. Hire a full time mechanic to work for you 24/7 with your own private aircraft hanger sized garage, so you can enjoy a nice Sunday drive in an old luxury barge in mint condition.
It’s NOT the cars fault if owners are rough with a car, and don’t maintain it… IF this car was properly looked after, it would be a lovely luxury vehicle, with low mileage, for its age.
I remember this car reviewed on top gear. It’s basically an S-Class/Bentley level luxury (for its time) for a cheap price. Car never caught on because of the badge. Thought about buying it, but it might be too big for me 🤔
@biv05 I seem to recall that the hinges on the one in the top gear vid were a fancy shaped and design aircraft style hinge, the ones on this car seem to be bog standard pressed steel. I could be wrong.🤔
This is what my old boss used to call a "council estate limo". Personally, I'm a man of low standards and simple pleasures. I'd do the brakes and use it for work until the back window falls out.
I don't know why but i've always wanted a phaeton because of it's mythical reputation (VW boss sticking two fingers up a the premium brands and throwing everything into this car) so i'd always say go for it and fix it up if anything because it's a bit of a unicorn
The boss was Piech but it's still a humble VW,very few paid 70k for a posh Passat...and as you can see here quite a few things need doing for just 80k miles.Nice air vents and boot hinges but way short of a 7 series in other ways,lots of cheap VW parts bin bits in there.Clever man,Golf's had nice interiors but cheaply made mechanical bits.
Think I’d look into the exhaust issue. That’s probably why they traded it in. Very rare car thou, once sorted it would be very nice and still very usable 👍
Very interesting video. As I commented in your previous Phaeton video, these are hugely under rated and overlooked capable cars but also quite complex with lots that can go wrong. Can be amazingly cheap to buy but big bills to fix. And as you rightly pointed out, due to the very low production numbers, spare parts can be a big challenge. I love a luxury barge too, especially when the purchase price is such an amazing bargin but if it was me buying, I'd be steering clear of the Phaeton. Even if I found a "good un" I'd constantly be worried about something going wrong or breaking and how difficult / expensive it might be to fix. A real shame, as I truly like these cars. In short, I would walk away from this one but with a very well deserved respect for it's engineering and barge like cruising comfort.
Well apart from asking your guys for a pre MOT I'd definitely look for the availability of that rear screen, and above all ask myself if this is the sort of car that will sell during difficult economic times. Probably one to move on through the trade, in my opinion Matt.
UPDATE - Autoglass should be able to help. On their Dutch website they are showing one rear window in stock at 699 Euros no doubt with trade discount it will be even less, not sure about the carriage though!!
Thinking to put new spares on car which worth around 1% of new price is absurd No way only good used spares glass cost 70% of car price that's why people are giving away them but if you clever you make ton of money
Hi Matt..interesting vid as always :) I think if you were going to keep it for yourself and run it for a good while it may be worth doing, after you've worked out exactly what it needs time and ££ wise...but if you can move it on for spares/to someone who loves them and wants a project that's what I'd do..good luck!
I've seen and read much about these cars and would love to see more . They are supposed to be fine cars but maybe a handful for maintenance. I'd love to see a test. Get it running well and daily drive it for a few months to see how reliable it is, then give us a real evaluation. Please don't just do one video and leave us hanging. I HATE THAT !!!
That rear window will be double glazed I guess. I had a D2 generation Audi A8. It needed a windscreen and we had to order one from Germany. It was the third to last one in Europe. Good luck
"Exhaust workshop" means the turbo is likely blocked up and needs rebuilding. Its something you really need to watch out for because if the oil feed mesh in the turbo becomes blocked it can starve the bottom end of oil and throw a rod. I'd strip it for parts.
The raffle model means you can afford to get an old car back on the road when it is otherwise unviable. This one would need a great deal doing to it but I think it can be saved because a few videos of the restoration work would whet viewers appetite if they see it done right. On the other hand, there are easier projects. Also I’d enjoy a few videos about how you break a car to make a profit!
I've always liked the idea of breaking my old cars, once they've become too uneconomical to maintain. Knowing that I could make way more money than the scrap man's average £200 offer is enticing. But what do you do when you're left with just the bare carcass on your drive? What scrap man is gonna want to pay you for it and and come a take the undrivable car away, once it's had all it's goodies taken off? You're left with a lump of metal that you need to pay to have shuttled away to a scrappy for free and that's if they'll accept it?
It would be cool if you could do a video going over different MOT histories to show examples of good, ok, bad, etc. , what to look out for, what to ignore and so on. Love your videos, as someone not originally from the UK they are extremely helpful!
The beeping when starting up would put me off for a start especially at 5.30 am in the morning for my work commute, would have been a stunning car in it's day 😎
Hi Matt, love these videos. As a trader you shouldn’t fall in love with your stock. Great parts car and I love the interior but too many downsides and even in the unlikely event that everything goes well there’ll be limited profit. Too time consuming (time is money) so maybe time to move it on? Keep up the great work
Love these videos Matt. Better you than me dealing with this that’s for sure 🤣 That was my first thought too, they’re pretty rare so parts will be a pain to source. I’d go for a high spec 2nd gen superb instead of the headache! Best of luck
Rusted discs and neglected. Get it on a ramp and check the underside. At this age there is the prospect of corrosion to inner-sills, bulkhead, and floors. Also, lots of electronics and "tricks" to go wrong! With older "barges" it is the bits you don't see that are often the most important. I have much experience of Jaguar XJs.
Thanks for the great content. My neighbor has a gen 2 Phaeton. Beautiful car. But having owned many Audis and VW's in my past, I couldn't take the constant worry about trips to service, emergency tows and shocking repair bills. I dumped my last A6 and made the switch to Lexus. I traded performance for reliability and accumulated money in the bank 😊
The W12 versions of the Phaeton are brilliant if you can find one. I have admired these cars since I first saw one in the mid 2000s. Stunning in person.
I used to own a 2006 3.0TDI Phaeton and would have ran from that one (from a purely business decision perspective). The rear window has about 5 antennas embedded in it in addition to the heating, I was quoted £1350 for 4 discs and pads from the main dealer, but I haggled them down to £750! Corrosion near the horizontal door trims is due to galvanic corrosion between the steel fixings and the aluminium door panels and is a recognised fault by VW. In relation to the boot hinges, the fancy alloy hinges are only present on models with the automatic opening/closing boot option (which mine had) the manual boot models just had pressed metal versions. Getting 4 nearly new "103" load rated tyres that can do 155mph+ will have got a bit of your £1k back though! Magnificent car though when everything is working. The build quality puts my current Merc to shame!
I was worried it would be a V10 for minute (RUN)! To do list: - Rear windscreen - Discs and pads all round - Paintwork - Wheel refurbishment - Nearside door mirror indicator lens and mirror glass - Interior trim - RHD gearlever - Thorough clean I'd run it by a VW specialist and see what they say it needs mechanically as well. ZF 6HP26A auto 'box will need a service ("sealed for life" - ha!) as you said. I'd be tempted to buy it but very wary of it quickly becoming a money pit.
I've got one, it's not too bad. Wouldn't give a dpf error till you tried to start the engine, the exhaust workshop warning is probably one of the O2 sensors. One at the dpf and one on the turbo. It looks in good enough nick but the front bumper should sell for £400 if it's mint.
Unless you can do all the maintenance and minor repairs yourself, as I have on my 2003 W12, stay away from it. There's a bit of trick sticking the gear lever back on. Most importantly pull out the button on the side and secure it before you pull it off and don't forget to remove the clip behind the badge trim.
Worth taking to your mechanic to see what ails the engine and gearbox, as that could be the make-or-break factor. A used rear screen can be found for around £400, and there are often pre-facelift Phaetons being broken for spares, so the various trim pieces can be found if you have time. If you can get the car back in good fully working order for another £3,000, it is probably worth doing and would make a great TH-cam follow-up episode!
As tempting as it is to fix up a cool old luxury barge.... I'd personally give it a swerve this time, Matt. It seems like there's just too much needs putting right. In my opinion, at least.
Noticed that there is a phaeton on ebay that is being broken for spares, maybe give them a call and check if the rear screen is available. It's in Worksop, pretty sure most other parts would be available from GSF or eurocar parts. If the rear screen isn't available, then it's not worth repairing and only suitable for breaking.
Though it would be a fine old thing if you brought it back up to standard, how sellable/desireable would it be once finished? (Those self-hiding front cupholders are almost worth it on their own though!)
A £1000 VW Pheaton old luxury car what can go wrong. Would be a cool project but not financial exeptable I think. Maybe sell it on so someone can sell the parts to keep others on the road.
The “responsible” side of my head says to get shut and cut your loses - but the passionate side of my head says to keep and do up over time - its an appreciating classic and could net you a great outcome in a couple years time…
From my conservative perspective, I'd rather move around in that than in a white Range Rover. The wheels may be OEM but I would change them to another option offered by VW at the time. Ultimately, the rear screen may be the deciding factor in whether to keep or break it. Edit: just checked and it's £630 a year to tax...definite breaker.
Keep it as a winter smoker and don't spend a bean on it apart from an oil change. If the brakes work ok it doesn't need discs. Speaking as a professional tightwad, the art of cheap cars is to keep them cheap and not go looking for problems. A 2006 Phaeton has bugger all future so just enjoy the waft for a grand.
As Phaetons go this is a very base spec model, yes they come with good spec as standard for a £50k ish car from new. But without being looked after they will have the same issues as any other expensive car run on a budget. As it has minimal to no options its probably not worth investing in, they weren’t all available as AWD I believe early ones may have been front wheel drive. Looking forward to seeing what you decide to do!
Ordinarily Matt get shot of it but these cars are so rare if you can source parts to give it the tlc it needs it’s worth saving. Like others have said see how much it costs. If you can sort that back window without it costing as much as a space rocket hopefully the other stuff won’t be too bad, new brakes, fixing the stiff driver door,buff up the paint, wing mirror etc…and let’s pray the exhaust issue isn’t too expensive or any other issues appear. If you can save this one it’s worth it!
@@HighPeakAutos indeed. On a separate topic in your trade experience how do you find the Focus? I really don’t need the expense of another car, got mine nearly 18 months ago it’s not the EcoBoost it’s 1.6 last of the DuraTec VCT’s. It’s a mark 3, 68k when I got with full Ford history, cambelt/water pump changed now on 83K. Does not use a drop of oil and I always change oil and filter every 5K on every car. Can these clock high miles if really looked after? Oh and it’s a manual not the PowerShift auto that’s caused Ford so many problems! I’m guessing you see loads of “run of the mill” so just wondered what you thought?
Mat you said it yourself it is a rare car and in my previous searches finding one with the beige leather interior is even more rare and at only 80,000 miles. Obviously an elderly previous owner. I'd keep it going.
I really like your channel . Very informative, honest and watchable not like a few I have tried to watch in the past .keep up the great content . Also I really like your property channel. Being a property invester myself I know what you have to deal with but again good to see a honest person like yourself . Well done.
There's a lot of parasites in today's society. There's a lot of people such as landlords and 'investors' who don't do any real work. They just sit on there arse all day exploiting people - getting other people to pay their mortgage, getting something for cheap and then flipping it for a profit. You'd think they would want a proper job. Society is full of them.
Looks like a money pit to me , I'd get shot of it. If one or two further issues present themselves in the fix up you could be throwing good money after bad... very interesting vid tho 👌👍
I seem to spend half my life these days sitting on the sofa, watching Matt wanderining round a car park feeling sick!
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get a life
I love these cars and I think you got a bargain. As someone who worked at a VW dealer for 10 years, my advice is as follows. Take it for MOT and ring Autoglass for the price of a rear screen. On the basis of this if you can do everything for £2K or less I would go for it. I think the front discs will clean up if the car is driven and the rears may be worth having skimmed. A rare, unusual and desirable car of that age and mileage with all its book pack, good tyres and reasonable service history is worth saving, especially a 4 motion version. I think it would be a tragedy to sell it for spares. I think these cars are future classics, please tidy it up and KEEP it, in another 5 years you will be glad you did. Think of it as a cut-price Bentley and not an expensive VW, cars like this will never be seen again.
+1 agree
We are unconscious when we are asleep or fainted.
When we are unconscious, we have no thoughts, no emotions, and cannot see the world.
When we are conscious, we know everything. Consciousness is thoughts, emotions, and everything in the world.
This consciousness is one.
Will consciousness be split in two? Consciousness is not divisible.
Do you feel two consciousnesses when talking to a friend? Consciousness is felt only as one.
Consciousness is one. I am Conscious and I am the World.
Gospel of Thomas
"For many of the first will be last, and will become a single one."
Jesus said, "Two will recline on a couch; one will die, one will live."
"For this reason I say, if one is whole, one will be filled with light, but if one is divided, one will be filled with darkness."
Jesus said, "Why do you wash the outside of the cup?
Don't you understand that the one who made the inside is also the one who made the outside?"
Jesus said, "I am the light that is over all things. I am all: from me all came forth, and to me all attained.
Split a piece of wood; I am there.
Lift up the stone, and you will find me there."
A [person said] to him, "Tell my brothers to divide my father's possessions with me."
He said to the person, "Mister, who made me a divider?"
He turned to his disciples and said to them, "I'm not a divider, am I?"
they made it front wheel drive?
@@whiterabbit9938 yes I would like fries with that
agree - I'd follow this approach
Some of these videos really do need a part 2 to cover what happened in the end
Yes I looked through all his other videos very disappointing that there was no follow up on this.
Personally, I would run it to a garage to see what it really needs, but I'd be fully prepared to not committing to the repairs. I'd say the first thing is to work out what it mechanically needs before anything else.
Roll it straight in to an MOT...
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I do believe that I drove this car when it was new. I was a driver for Richard Alexander. Huddersfield. I drove it down to Gatwick Airport there and back twice . It was a dream car.
I think you answered your final question in your intro. They are quite rare, expensive to run and maintain and are without a doubt an enthusiasts car. Parted out this could be worth a multiple of what you paid. The interior looked good . Body panels seemed okay, lights and small parts, engine and gearbox. The fact that someone was forced to buy and fit a European shift lever tells you how rare these things are. I have a mate (I live in Germany) who had one of these and he said to me "It's great to drive when it's running, costs a fortune to run and God help you if breaks down and needs spares." In a case like that it's a sellers market. As you have commented on many occasions "It's just a rear light for 50-60 quid." but that was for freely available parts. Today 07.11.2023 here in Germany a set of used rear lights for this model costs 350 quid used! Overhauled engine 4 grand (just the block). Overhauled automatic gearbox 3,500 quid. 2,500 quid for a used set of seats and door panels similar those shown here. Food for thought?
I always think, oh the interior looks really good, until I realise Matt’s still in the Range Rover - gets me every bloody time!
Haha, same
especialy confusing when he's just bought an Astra
Me too! 😁
Okay then, so not just me. Last time when he picked up a Saab, I was like “hey, wtf?! my Saab doesn’t look like that modern.”
This will make dangerous viewing, I’ve wanted a Phaeton for ages 😂
There was one round the corner from me for years. Probably ultimate luxury sleeper. Renders you invisible in your own comfort bubble. Quite appealing.
Dangerous viewing is one thing, dangerous buying is another. I've not even watched it yet but I reckon it'll need at least another grand spent on it to be decent. Far too complicated and far too much kit to go wrong 😬
Me too😂 Such a pointless car.....I love them!
I worked in a pub as a younger man and a regular turned up driving a brand new one , this was back in 2003, and it was the first one I ever saw, it was the awful gold/beige colour with the tan interior, it wasn't very pretty really but it was still cool when he parked it next to my MK2 Golf Driver! Turned out he was a VW sales manager and a little while later he turned up in the first R32 I ever saw, his usual ride was a high spec Bora or a Jazz blue MK4 GTi with full black leather, he was a cool guy, he turned up for his after work pint in an oak green mk2 GTI 16v once, the really rare one with the even rarer factory cream leather! It was a car that somebody had traded in at his dealership. So long ago now!
@@phoneitbuyitpickitup9212 That's a cool story. I wish I had some. I did work in a car dealership as a trainee salesman and they wouldn't let me drive a Lexus GS300 in cold weather because it was rear wheel drive. I did get to to drive a BMW 5 series once the weather was warmer 😂. Good Times
Same and then when the Arteon replaced it found myself wanting that aswell…
gotta love content like this ! 😍
Huh TH-cam?
Thanks!
What a legendary moment
go away corporation
Bring dislikes back cmoon
I’m not generally a VW guy but I’ve always really liked the Phaeton. A classy car. And I’m a sucker for grandad garden centre spec beige interiors. My advice would be to plough every penny you have into it.
I'm not a big fan of volkswagen cars but the phateon is the only German car I would consider buying because im a big fan of the interior. I would personally buy the citreon c6 because it is a better car.
Hahaha you’re not helping
@@HighPeakAutos ?
@Fredsucksatminecraft I don't think he was replying to you Fred 😂😂
@@fredsucksatminecraft2753 sorry wrong comment
Let's make this a group project! Put up a list of all the bits you need and we can have a competition amongst ourselves to source them as cheap as possible. Local scrappers, that sort of thing. Then maybe if it ever gets warm we could randomly pop into HPA and each tighten a bolt or something.
and then, once it is all fixed, a raffle, so one more or less lucky subscriber could win it. you have already enough cars you like and not drive much lol
Let’s not.
He'll end up with 3 back windows, 17 gear shifters, 12 passenger door mirrors...
@@danpaul4975 And a magic tree air freshener.
This isn’t challenge anneka. Get rid of it for anything over the purchase price and move on.
It’s done it’s job making a cracking video in the usual style.
End of story
Hi Matt, its a solid car and could be a great project for someone. There is probably just as much, or more margin for you to punt it on for £1500-£2000 in its current conditon than you would get if you invested the time to sortout the issues. Its an ideal project for an enthusiast who doesnt have to pay for labour costs
Alwaysthe labour costs that kill for skileld labour, understandable for skills but true, if good at something, dont do it for free...
Biggest expense is going to be the rear screen if you can find one. One on eBay in Leeds breaking for spares. The rest brakes etc are all available.Seems a shame to break this up as it isn't high on the miles
I agree, then raffle it off
Low miles and clean leather interior mean it should be worthwhile at least properly costing up the repairs - we need to know what the Check Engine Light and Exhaust Workshop means!
Much as I like the idea of keeping it on the road, other Phaetons in nicer condition but needing spares will benefit from this one's sacrifice.
Tru dat
lol good point.
Have to agree, sadly this one needs to be let go.
Passat boot hinges from 05 down, look the same
It must surely be worth a grand in spares alone. The engine, gearbox and interior perhaps 🤔
I love the Phaeton's design. It's pretty much a 2000s masterpiece. Very elegant and solid at the same time. Yes it does look like a beefy Passat but that's not a bad thing.
Money pit as it is, this car has bucket loads going for it and deserves a fresh shot at life as only you can achieve. You could then raffle it to recoup your costs. The TH-cam content alone would be priceless and we would lap it up. Go on Matt, you know you cannot just walk away from this one.👍
I would love to see this car given another lease of life by you. Whether it is profitable is another matter. Whatever you decide. I hope we get a follow up video on your decision. P.s love the channel
The speed with which you can prod and poke a cigarette lighter or a sun visor never ceases to amaze me. You could have a second job as a sharp-shooter for SO19.
Great channel ol' fruit. Keep up the good content.
Sounded sweet enough and with approx 80k miles it still has much life left in it to deliver. It probably isn't a good car for your business to turn round, but, a rough diamond for a home mechanic to put right over the course of a couple of spring months on his drive and use it for another 120k miles. Biggest aggro is the rear screen, the exhaust issue is likely down to too many short runs. She's probably a dream find for someone at the end of the rainbow with the time and skills plus the inclination to get a lowish mileage luxury motor for a bit less than they usually go for.
Wait for the gearbox to go.
That will be fun.
Beautiful perfect running engine. But totally shagged gearbox. How clever.
I'm enough of a fan of the Phaeton to know that you'd be opening up a world of hurt. Spares or repairs, someone with a similar one might be able to get one good one from theirs and yours.
Keep it!
So much better than all the new crap that is for sale these days, a GOOD SOLID ride, looks great!
All the best!
Love the interior, very classy looking. This is the type of car that would suit a wedding car company or a funeral parlour. It oozes class and it would be great to see it looking all shiny and new again. The ultra low mileage for it's age and how nice the engine sounds suggests that there is quite a bit of life left in this car. You could imagine a driver in a chauffer outfit welcoming passengers into the rear compartment. It might be old but it really is a thing of beauty 😍
I've always loved this model. Very nice shape, looks very sleek and despite it's age still looks modern. In good condition great cars.
I think that’s a much nicer car than given credit for. It’s clearly sat up for a long time and the brakes with some use would surely come back. A good detail and a wheel refurb would leave it nice enough exterior wise. Then a decent service and it would probably do an MOT. Well worth doing and saving and it’s great content.
Not with that cracked rear screen... It's a fail.
and the rust needs dealing with! Plus what is that engine light and exhaust problem???
Had a friend who owned one of these. The electric boot lock failed, with no access through rear seats, so VW garage couldn't access the mechanism. The only solution was to cut a hole on the boot lid.
I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. It's a total Friday afternoon afterthought of a design.
It's a Markle car, looks good, rides well, multiple disappointed previous owners, but it has so many problems the owner will always regret ownership.
"MARKLE CAR" ,I like that !
These are lovely cars and I don't think it needs that much to get back into reasonable condition, the biggest problems are the rear window and the transmission lever, the other parts could be after market parts and so not as expensive. I think it needs a good check over and then compile a list of what needs to be sourced and price it up.
Maybe see how much the parts are and then raffle shack it if it's viable? It's a lovely car and it's only done low miles. Be good for the channel to follow the progress. 🙂👍
To get around the gear knob problem simply convert it to left hand drive.
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😁😂
I would love to buy this 👍 I went on the VW course when this came out as a technician.
Offer Matt £1,500.
@@johnnunn8688 to much 🤣
Man’s got the badge in
I love the Phaeton. I've always wanted one but the potential for astronomical repair bills scared me off, especially with the air suspension. Oh and Phaetons are notorious for that corrosion, especially on the doors under the trim. Beautiful cars regardless.
Get a Passat B8 in top trim. You will be surprised how good it is. Damn close to old luxury saloons.
I found one W12 6.2LT at a local dealer, like 2012 with seems real 190k km, seems in almost mint pristine conditions for like 10k... seems almost unreal, can be maybe the mainenace - repair cost?
I know you’re a business man and not a classic car renovator, but I’d love to see this given a new lease of life, maybe you should be kept within the TH-cam community on another channel that would get some decent content out of this car
Hi Matt, I owned an 06 3L and thought it was one of the best cars I had and did me for 7 years. Had a problem with the paint bubbling on the doors and took it back to VW. They resprayed the bottom half under warranty because it's an aluminium body with steel trim bolted through without proper separation washers. good luck with this one.
I thought it was steel bodied and as a result heavy compared to the Audi A8 that was aluminium.
Must be on a different production line to mine then....which has a steel body though I think the doors are alloy.
Mmmm, I'm wondering if the "heavy" drivers door Matt referred to has been replaced with a steel one🤔
@@David-bl1bt I am pretty sure they are steel.
My parents used to have for a while a Phaeton W12 and they also used it as a car for their wedding, what an incredible car this was for its time!
Might take a long while, but keep it till you find all the parts, & let us know as you find them. All people who REALLY love cars love the Phaeton, and it will be one more still on the road, & a good one to boot. I suspect the mechanical issues will be relatively minor, but I might be wrong.
Love these longer videos, rennovating and making a profit. Simple and a nice watch during dinner.
Lol! I’m watching while having mine!
Got a 06 w12. There's over a grand just in wheels and lights. Number 1 thing to do with any used phaeton is make sure that both batteries are good and charged. Bad batteries throw lots of false codes
Instantly clicked on this! A car that I dismissed as an enlarged Passat at launch……..but, when you look into the engineering, they are quite remarkable motors. You did well for a bag of sand!
An overrated enlarged Passat.
It's not a modern classic.
Why did the car fail against BMW/Merc/Lexus?
@@patrickbateman9197 Wrong bagde.
Hi Matt. I think it's simple, but only due to it's rarity... If the rear screen and door mirror are cheap enough, do the basic jobs and stop spending money on wheel refurbs. Most people I know accept wheels get kerbed. If not break it for spares or pass it straight on. Take care.
And yet the wheel refurb is such a cheap bang-for the buck fix. It never seems to cost more than 200-300 GBP
@@Czechbound I agree just not on those wheels and not with the profit available
I've got a 2010 XF-S. Lovely cars! The wheel nuts in the box are always worth having, the factory nuts are made of cheese and often snap when removing them if they've been overtightened! And this white XF has the optional 'Aero package' it has a different front bumper and curvy side skirts.
I’d personally suggest it isn’t worth the cost; which is a real shame as I’ve always had a soft spot for them. As you say, I’d be a little frustrated if I’d ploughed £80k into it from new and only got 80k miles out of it
I doubt anyone did, it was likely leased.
@@ruk2023-- And abused by arseholes
Good point.
One I've been trying to explain to people for years.
Spend £120k on a car.
Keep a full main dealer servicing at a cost of tens of thousands
Do ONLY 80k miles
Car falls apart and is worth nothing in the end.
It's the modern plague of all these luxury brands
Doesn't matter who makes it. A luxury car with only 80k miles is utterly worthless. Parts only ever get more expensive. Inflation.
Car depreciates, but everything else inflates. Labour and parts.
Why. Bother?
Lease the bastard and dump it after 3 years.
It's a mug's game buying old barges, as much as I love them and have bought many many old and cheap top spec BMW 7 Series and Merc S Class.
Even if you're in the trade (cheap labour and they won't rob you). Life is too short to waste on these things.
Unless you are M539 Renovations and can do it full time. Even then, it's only a few quid in profit.
It's one thing enjoying these videos. It's another actually having to burn money in a skip fire.
It's like trying to smother a skip fire by throwing so much money on it, that you starve it of oxygen and the fire stops.
@@ruk2023-- it's still a shagged car with only 80k miles.
Someone always has to pay for it.
You still pay for everything even when you lease it.
I can't think of a bigger waste of time and money than old barges.
I've wasted tens and tens of thousands. I could have easily have bought a 2 bed flat with the amount I've spent keeping a fleet of old BMW 7 Series maintained, which was my hobby.
If you're a billionaire. Go for it. Hire a full time mechanic to work for you 24/7 with your own private aircraft hanger sized garage, so you can enjoy a nice Sunday drive in an old luxury barge in mint condition.
It’s NOT the cars fault if owners are rough with a car, and don’t maintain it…
IF this car was properly looked after, it would be a lovely luxury vehicle, with low mileage, for its age.
I remember this car reviewed on top gear. It’s basically an S-Class/Bentley level luxury (for its time) for a cheap price.
Car never caught on because of the badge. Thought about buying it, but it might be too big for me 🤔
I remember they all buzzed about the boot hinge 😅
@biv05 I seem to recall that the hinges on the one in the top gear vid were a fancy shaped and design aircraft style hinge, the ones on this car seem to be bog standard pressed steel.
I could be wrong.🤔
@@David-bl1bt nope that it
Braveheart playing on Classic FM, being as you are, brave enough to buy these old cars, that was quite fitting.
This is what my old boss used to call a "council estate limo". Personally, I'm a man of low standards and simple pleasures. I'd do the brakes and use it for work until the back window falls out.
Same
aint no council estate limo and never was............too rare and wrong badge.
I don't know why but i've always wanted a phaeton because of it's mythical reputation (VW boss sticking two fingers up a the premium brands and throwing everything into this car) so i'd always say go for it and fix it up if anything because it's a bit of a unicorn
The boss was Piech but it's still a humble VW,very few paid 70k for a posh Passat...and as you can see here quite a few things need doing for just 80k miles.Nice air vents and boot hinges but way short of a 7 series in other ways,lots of cheap VW parts bin bits in there.Clever man,Golf's had nice interiors but cheaply made mechanical bits.
Think I’d look into the exhaust issue. That’s probably why they traded it in. Very rare car thou, once sorted it would be very nice and still very usable 👍
Very interesting video. As I commented in your previous Phaeton video, these are hugely under rated and overlooked capable cars but also quite complex with lots that can go wrong. Can be amazingly cheap to buy but big bills to fix. And as you rightly pointed out, due to the very low production numbers, spare parts can be a big challenge. I love a luxury barge too, especially when the purchase price is such an amazing bargin but if it was me buying, I'd be steering clear of the Phaeton. Even if I found a "good un" I'd constantly be worried about something going wrong or breaking and how difficult / expensive it might be to fix. A real shame, as I truly like these cars. In short, I would walk away from this one but with a very well deserved respect for it's engineering and barge like cruising comfort.
I always appreciated the Phaeton, they're SUPER rare in New Zealand (for obvious reasons). I could never own one because of the - reputation.
Not as poor as Arderns' reputation....
Good finding a rare luxury car like the Phaeton. Hope it's in good condition. The Phaeton does do a lot of part sharing with the Audi A8.
Thats got to be worth saving , even if it’s for TH-cam content alone , I’d love to see it restored 👍
Well apart from asking your guys for a pre MOT I'd definitely look for the availability of that rear screen, and above all ask myself if this is the sort of car that will sell during difficult economic times. Probably one to move on through the trade, in my opinion Matt.
Think you should try and save it. You got the contacts. You like a challenge. As usual great content and Humour.
UPDATE - Autoglass should be able to help. On their Dutch website they are showing one rear window in stock at 699 Euros no doubt with trade discount it will be even less, not sure about the carriage though!!
at 699 Euros for a rear screen this car is basically a breaker already....
Thinking to put new spares on car which worth around 1% of new price is absurd
No way only good used spares glass cost 70% of car price that's why people are giving away them but if you clever you make ton of money
There there a rear screen on eBay for £218 s/h
Moneypit, I'd run away from this one. Also shocked by the build quality for a car that price.
Hello Mat.
Where are the second video of this amazing car ?
What do you do with it ?
Cheers
Hi Matt..interesting vid as always :) I think if you were going to keep it for yourself and run it for a good while it may be worth doing, after you've worked out exactly what it needs time and ££ wise...but if you can move it on for spares/to someone who loves them and wants a project that's what I'd do..good luck!
It screams ‘money pit’ to me. I’d move it on for spares or repairs.
Love your work 👍
Sell it for best price. £900 if u like.
I've seen and read much about these cars and would love to see more . They are supposed to be fine cars but maybe a handful for maintenance. I'd love to see a test. Get it running well and daily drive it for a few months to see how reliable it is, then give us a real evaluation. Please don't just do one video and leave us hanging. I HATE THAT !!!
Would like to see this car back on the road with everything fixed
That rear window will be double glazed I guess. I had a D2 generation Audi A8. It needed a windscreen and we had to order one from Germany. It was the third to last one in Europe. Good luck
That’s what worries me
"Exhaust workshop" means the turbo is likely blocked up and needs rebuilding. Its something you really need to watch out for because if the oil feed mesh in the turbo becomes blocked it can starve the bottom end of oil and throw a rod. I'd strip it for parts.
Get it sorted and raffle it off Matt, I would surely buy a few tickets. Great cars.
Id buy tickets too!
Me too
Mee three
The raffle model means you can afford to get an old car back on the road when it is otherwise unviable. This one would need a great deal doing to it but I think it can be saved because a few videos of the restoration work would whet viewers appetite if they see it done right. On the other hand, there are easier projects. Also I’d enjoy a few videos about how you break a car to make a profit!
I've always liked the idea of breaking my old cars, once they've become too uneconomical to maintain. Knowing that I could make way more money than the scrap man's average £200 offer is enticing.
But what do you do when you're left with just the bare carcass on your drive? What scrap man is gonna want to pay you for it and and come a take the undrivable car away, once it's had all it's goodies taken off? You're left with a lump of metal that you need to pay to have shuttled away to a scrappy for free and that's if they'll accept it?
Brave hart playing on the radio
I love this car doesn’t look dated for the age at all
The fact that the are rare and with low mileage deserves a little bit of magic sprinkled
Bet thats the lowest mileage one in the UK , if its gen
@@LOTPOR0402 theres 1 on autotrader with 28k miles a 2007 model :)
@@CarsofGlasgow Direct me to the ad i will buy it, but of course its genuine
@@LOTPOR0402 that check he does, says the mileage is iffy.
@@LOTPOR0402 I can't post an ad here, its not my car for sale either. just search on autotrader and filter by mileage.
Come on, keep this piece of German engineering greatness on the road… you have the connections 👍
Look at the build quality! Hahahhaha
German engineering greatness indeed...
Run Matt! Don’t look back! My advice is do a ‘Frozen’ and ‘let it go’
i think work your magic on it mate, its a lovely motor that just needs a bit of tlc and could last someone at least another 10 year. Go For It!!!
Could easily become a money pit and it will have a very limited market, spares and repair sale!
Great vid as always.
so can any car
look at BMW 🤣
It would be cool if you could do a video going over different MOT histories to show examples of good, ok, bad, etc. , what to look out for, what to ignore and so on. Love your videos, as someone not originally from the UK they are extremely helpful!
Great idea. Thanks
It’s a damn fine car. Just a shame it has a few discrepancies.. I’d say it’s worth saving..👍
You did the Lexus LS430, why not do this? Granted, the depreciation is insane but this car is worth fixing up in my book!
The beeping when starting up would put me off for a start especially at 5.30 am in the morning for my work commute, would have been a stunning car in it's day 😎
Hi Matt, love these videos. As a trader you shouldn’t fall in love with your stock. Great parts car and I love the interior but too many downsides and even in the unlikely event that everything goes well there’ll be limited profit. Too time consuming (time is money) so maybe time to move it on?
Keep up the great work
Could be great for someone to squeeze through an mot and smoke a little.
Love these videos Matt. Better you than me dealing with this that’s for sure 🤣 That was my first thought too, they’re pretty rare so parts will be a pain to source. I’d go for a high spec 2nd gen superb instead of the headache! Best of luck
Rusted discs and neglected. Get it on a ramp and check the underside. At this age there is the prospect of corrosion to inner-sills, bulkhead, and floors. Also, lots of electronics and "tricks" to go wrong! With older "barges" it is the bits you don't see that are often the most important. I have much experience of Jaguar XJs.
i hope you keep this and give it the love it needs
Thanks for the great content. My neighbor has a gen 2 Phaeton. Beautiful car. But having owned many Audis and VW's in my past, I couldn't take the constant worry about trips to service, emergency tows and shocking repair bills. I dumped my last A6 and made the switch to Lexus. I traded performance for reliability and accumulated money in the bank 😊
The W12 versions of the Phaeton are brilliant if you can find one. I have admired these cars since I first saw one in the mid 2000s. Stunning in person.
They look the same as the v8 version
I used to own a 2006 3.0TDI Phaeton and would have ran from that one (from a purely business decision perspective). The rear window has about 5 antennas embedded in it in addition to the heating, I was quoted £1350 for 4 discs and pads from the main dealer, but I haggled them down to £750!
Corrosion near the horizontal door trims is due to galvanic corrosion between the steel fixings and the aluminium door panels and is a recognised fault by VW.
In relation to the boot hinges, the fancy alloy hinges are only present on models with the automatic opening/closing boot option (which mine had) the manual boot models just had pressed metal versions.
Getting 4 nearly new "103" load rated tyres that can do 155mph+ will have got a bit of your £1k back though!
Magnificent car though when everything is working. The build quality puts my current Merc to shame!
I was worried it would be a V10 for minute (RUN)!
To do list:
- Rear windscreen
- Discs and pads all round
- Paintwork
- Wheel refurbishment
- Nearside door mirror indicator lens and mirror glass
- Interior trim
- RHD gearlever
- Thorough clean
I'd run it by a VW specialist and see what they say it needs mechanically as well. ZF 6HP26A auto 'box will need a service ("sealed for life" - ha!) as you said.
I'd be tempted to buy it but very wary of it quickly becoming a money pit.
Driver's door
Interior light lens
Diagnostics & Service - Engine light and "Exhaust Workshop"
Finally an MOT
I've got one, it's not too bad. Wouldn't give a dpf error till you tried to start the engine, the exhaust workshop warning is probably one of the O2 sensors. One at the dpf and one on the turbo. It looks in good enough nick but the front bumper should sell for £400 if it's mint.
Unless you can do all the maintenance and minor repairs yourself, as I have on my 2003 W12, stay away from it. There's a bit of trick sticking the gear lever back on. Most importantly pull out the button on the side and secure it before you pull it off and don't forget to remove the clip behind the badge trim.
Worth taking to your mechanic to see what ails the engine and gearbox, as that could be the make-or-break factor. A used rear screen can be found for around £400, and there are often pre-facelift Phaetons being broken for spares, so the various trim pieces can be found if you have time. If you can get the car back in good fully working order for another £3,000, it is probably worth doing and would make a great TH-cam follow-up episode!
Best advice here Matt
Its only worth 4k tops.
@@stuartpeacock8257 Appreciate that Stuart!
As tempting as it is to fix up a cool old luxury barge.... I'd personally give it a swerve this time, Matt. It seems like there's just too much needs putting right. In my opinion, at least.
Noticed that there is a phaeton on ebay that is being broken for spares, maybe give them a call and check if the rear screen is available. It's in Worksop, pretty sure most other parts would be available from GSF or eurocar parts. If the rear screen isn't available, then it's not worth repairing and only suitable for breaking.
Though it would be a fine old thing if you brought it back up to standard, how sellable/desireable would it be once finished?
(Those self-hiding front cupholders are almost worth it on their own though!)
A £1000 VW Pheaton old luxury car what can go wrong. Would be a cool project but not financial exeptable I think. Maybe sell it on so someone can sell the parts to keep others on the road.
Absolutey nothing (everything) can go wrong 😬
The “responsible” side of my head says to get shut and cut your loses - but the passionate side of my head says to keep and do up over time - its an appreciating classic and could net you a great outcome in a couple years time…
From my conservative perspective, I'd rather move around in that than in a white Range Rover. The wheels may be OEM but I would change them to another option offered by VW at the time. Ultimately, the rear screen may be the deciding factor in whether to keep or break it. Edit: just checked and it's £630 a year to tax...definite breaker.
Dont tax it then.
@@martincassels7995 lol
I love these cars and always wanted one. Would be a shame to see it get scrapped 😢
Get your wallet out then ;-)
I know I would hate to see it scrapped too!
Keep it as a winter smoker and don't spend a bean on it apart from an oil change. If the brakes work ok it doesn't need discs. Speaking as a professional tightwad, the art of cheap cars is to keep them cheap and not go looking for problems. A 2006 Phaeton has bugger all future so just enjoy the waft for a grand.
I'd probably look to break it up, good interior and hopefully good engine make it worthwhile 👍
Tempting phaet on this one Matt 😂
As Phaetons go this is a very base spec model, yes they come with good spec as standard for a £50k ish car from new. But without being looked after they will have the same issues as any other expensive car run on a budget. As it has minimal to no options its probably not worth investing in, they weren’t all available as AWD I believe early ones may have been front wheel drive.
Looking forward to seeing what you decide to do!
Ordinarily Matt get shot of it but these cars are so rare if you can source parts to give it the tlc it needs it’s worth saving. Like others have said see how much it costs. If you can sort that back window without it costing as much as a space rocket hopefully the other stuff won’t be too bad, new brakes, fixing the stiff driver door,buff up the paint, wing mirror etc…and let’s pray the exhaust issue isn’t too expensive or any other issues appear. If you can save this one it’s worth it!
This is the trouble with rare cars
@@HighPeakAutos indeed. On a separate topic in your trade experience how do you find the Focus? I really don’t need the expense of another car, got mine nearly 18 months ago it’s not the EcoBoost it’s 1.6 last of the DuraTec VCT’s. It’s a mark 3, 68k when I got with full Ford history, cambelt/water pump changed now on 83K. Does not use a drop of oil and I always change oil and filter every 5K on every car. Can these clock high miles if really looked after? Oh and it’s a manual not the PowerShift auto that’s caused Ford so many problems! I’m guessing you see loads of “run of the mill” so just wondered what you thought?
@@ianwalters11 they’re decent cars. You’ve chosen the best one 1.6 Manual
Mat you said it yourself it is a rare car and in my previous searches finding one with the beige leather interior is even more rare and at only 80,000 miles. Obviously an elderly previous owner. I'd keep it going.
I really wish they still made a new generation of this car I’ve always been obsessed with it and it looks very elegant
It’s a nice car and with the mileage it’s definitely worth saving
Why don't you buy it and waste untold hours and thousands of £s?
If it's so definitely.
@@patrickbateman9197 Have a lovely day Mr Bateman
@@giff1669 you have a nice week Giff.
I don't think they make a cheap Phaeton! 🤭 But I do love it
(I don't know how much you earn from TH-cam videos as to whether it's "worth" fixing .. but you definitely should)
I really like your channel . Very informative, honest and watchable not like a few I have tried to watch in the past .keep up the great content . Also I really like your property channel. Being a property invester myself I know what you have to deal with but again good to see a honest person like yourself . Well done.
I appreciate that!
There's a lot of parasites in today's society. There's a lot of people such as landlords and 'investors' who don't do any real work. They just sit on there arse all day exploiting people - getting other people to pay their mortgage, getting something for cheap and then flipping it for a profit. You'd think they would want a proper job. Society is full of them.
Looks like a money pit to me , I'd get shot of it. If one or two further issues present themselves in the fix up you could be throwing good money after bad... very interesting vid tho 👌👍
100000% you are correct.
See all my posts on this video.
Interesting vid on "When To Walk Away" before this bankrupts you.