It quickly became evident that legendary runes weren't taken into account at all when they announced the relic plan. Without that 6th bonus, runes are likely to cost a few silvers, especially the ones that have multiple runes for the same stats. And the whole point of even crafting a 7th legendary rune was just for that bonus (which they're removing) to stay when underwater. Removing it to be on a relic makes that 7th legendary rune nearly worthless. Again, maybe a few silvers expense, as opposed the several hundred gold to craft the legendary version. I think it you have 7 legendary runes now, you should just get the relic when it finally comes out, just because that 7th rune is going to be so devalued. But it's fair-ish that if you have 6 runes you'd have to invest some to finish off your relic. This whole rune/relic situation has been the only park of the expansion that I've felt negatively about.
On another note, Anet has in a roundabout way confirmed that the Garrenhoff of the SotO trailer is an alternate version. If you go to Garrenhof and wait next to April she'll have a conservation with another villager who says that when they went to bed the Tower was there and when they woke up it was gone without anyone noticing. Given the events of the trailer, it's impossible that no one would have noticed given the loud noise, the bright light, and the fires everywhere.
I like the change. Some rune sets have always looked handicapped by their sixth tier effect, and are seldom used, so I like the idea of de-coupling the effects. I'm less interested in removing passive bonuses in exchange for more interactive effects - we've seen that mentality creep in with traits not so long ago and I found myself swapping out of some old favourites there. Add to that, ArenaNet have only shown elite skills as triggers, which for some characters can be a hold-until-needed skill, which in turn could diminish relic usefulness. I started wondering if we might see nine class based relics. Relic of the warrior triggers on burst skill, relic of the mesmer triggers on shatter, etc.
I am most interested to see what they will do with the 6th tier bonus when there are dublicates 😂 like healing + concentration attributes has 4 variations +125, +125, 10% boon duration and 10% healing. As you can see two of them are identical with different bonus which will become a relic. Altrium and Rebirth runes specifically 😂 there were many others. I hope the 6th bonus is useful balanced and done well. But what I am afraid is Harriers stats but with Condi instead of Power 😅 I want them so bad! They would be so OP
You know something I wonder is if they will expand the recipes of the crafting professions. Something I wished I could craft through the Artificer is consumables that summons minions.
I think that a minion system available through Relics would be really good! even better if it's implemented through crafting which would give so much value to that aspect of the game.
Not only that the new effects can be interesting and interactive, but they will be more streamlined, it's similar to legendary aspects from diablo which is easy to pick up and play with, ugh this and the leg armor got me super excited! Also it's a seperate item slot, so for people who don't have leg armor, you can switch and try them without worrying about an extractor, or worse, salvaging the armor piece or losing the already equiped rune lol
oh thats good point I wasn't even thinking of that! oh man having the runes slotted into armor n needing extractors can be such a pain sometimes. with relics being equipped same as trinkets, that means I can just unequip or swap. yay!!! ok thats a huge side effect improvement on top of the splitting stats from passive improvement
I feel ok with the change, sounds good to me. However I feel that people who worked so hard for the Legi runes should not have to grind for them again. They should be given them as a matter of course. Unfair to make them spend thier time and money to redo what they have already done so.
Just give me the choice of a legacy mode that has no relics and keeps my T6 rune bonus. I got all legendary runes and don't like them to be downgraded.
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It quickly became evident that legendary runes weren't taken into account at all when they announced the relic plan.
Without that 6th bonus, runes are likely to cost a few silvers, especially the ones that have multiple runes for the same stats.
And the whole point of even crafting a 7th legendary rune was just for that bonus (which they're removing) to stay when underwater. Removing it to be on a relic makes that 7th legendary rune nearly worthless. Again, maybe a few silvers expense, as opposed the several hundred gold to craft the legendary version.
I think it you have 7 legendary runes now, you should just get the relic when it finally comes out, just because that 7th rune is going to be so devalued. But it's fair-ish that if you have 6 runes you'd have to invest some to finish off your relic.
This whole rune/relic situation has been the only park of the expansion that I've felt negatively about.
Things are looking very exciting! Thankyou for the info
On another note, Anet has in a roundabout way confirmed that the Garrenhoff of the SotO trailer is an alternate version. If you go to Garrenhof and wait next to April she'll have a conservation with another villager who says that when they went to bed the Tower was there and when they woke up it was gone without anyone noticing. Given the events of the trailer, it's impossible that no one would have noticed given the loud noise, the bright light, and the fires everywhere.
I like the change. Some rune sets have always looked handicapped by their sixth tier effect, and are seldom used, so I like the idea of de-coupling the effects. I'm less interested in removing passive bonuses in exchange for more interactive effects - we've seen that mentality creep in with traits not so long ago and I found myself swapping out of some old favourites there. Add to that, ArenaNet have only shown elite skills as triggers, which for some characters can be a hold-until-needed skill, which in turn could diminish relic usefulness.
I started wondering if we might see nine class based relics. Relic of the warrior triggers on burst skill, relic of the mesmer triggers on shatter, etc.
I honestly would LOVE class specific Relics -- it could be an interesting element for future expansions.
all i care about is keeping my rock dog
And I want to keep my jagged horror
I want Doggo and Horrors -- but give us new demons & minions we currently cannot summon. Harpies, Skeletons, Fairies, etc etc.
I am most interested to see what they will do with the 6th tier bonus when there are dublicates 😂 like healing + concentration attributes has 4 variations +125, +125, 10% boon duration and 10% healing. As you can see two of them are identical with different bonus which will become a relic. Altrium and Rebirth runes specifically 😂 there were many others. I hope the 6th bonus is useful balanced and done well.
But what I am afraid is Harriers stats but with Condi instead of Power 😅 I want them so bad! They would be so OP
Hey KROOF!
First time logging in after SotO dropped. Which of these Core Relics do you recommend for Core Guardian?
You know something I wonder is if they will expand the recipes of the crafting professions. Something I wished I could craft through the Artificer is consumables that summons minions.
I think that a minion system available through Relics would be really good! even better if it's implemented through crafting which would give so much value to that aspect of the game.
Not only that the new effects can be interesting and interactive, but they will be more streamlined, it's similar to legendary aspects from diablo which is easy to pick up and play with, ugh this and the leg armor got me super excited!
Also it's a seperate item slot, so for people who don't have leg armor, you can switch and try them without worrying about an extractor, or worse, salvaging the armor piece or losing the already equiped rune lol
oh thats good point I wasn't even thinking of that! oh man having the runes slotted into armor n needing extractors can be such a pain sometimes. with relics being equipped same as trinkets, that means I can just unequip or swap. yay!!! ok thats a huge side effect improvement on top of the splitting stats from passive improvement
Very true!
I am excited for this.
This video inspired me to make a list of which runes with which effects my 28 characters use x-x
Ah yes. The relic of the Scholar. I like it but kroof xD
and there are legendary and ascended relics? only exotic?
I feel ok with the change, sounds good to me. However I feel that people who worked so hard for the Legi runes should not have to grind for them again. They should be given them as a matter of course. Unfair to make them spend thier time and money to redo what they have already done so.
Having Legendary Runes should clear an achievement that rewards a Legendary Relic or something
Nah your runes still have value and these effects are all new.
Same here with 5 relics
Didn't we just do this on Jebro's channel lmao with you reading the Web page lololol
Not on this channel baby. 💅✨
More like this, please 😁
Just give me the choice of a legacy mode that has no relics and keeps my T6 rune bonus. I got all legendary runes and don't like them to be downgraded.