I agree it's the owners with the trophy dog on a chain. Irresponsible dog owners. They will replace their dog tomorrow they don't love their dog. They will also break the law and still own these dogs. This country always hits easy targets. which is the responsible dog owners who worship their pets. It's really sad to put healthy, loving dogs to sleep. It's so wrong!!
@@gaynor7947 you're so right. I'm 65 years old I have had staffie dogs most of my life and I've had nothing but love and joy from every dog. I am fed up with a lot of people looking down at me as I'm some criminal for owning these sweet dogs. It makes me sick of these idiots owning any type of dog. Extra large bullys I have met are gentle giants but they all have had good owners. Like the old saying goes a dog is good as the owner. Happy new year
Dog owners are such sensitive souls. ANY criticism of their dog means a criticism of them. They need to accept, like kids, it is YOUR choice to have a dog. Do not inflict your choices on other people.
@@Musa786-lx2ui it means exactly what it says ie alot of people arent very nice to eachother and thats why alot of dog owners choose to have dogs, alot of dogs love unconditionally, all they ask is to be walked everyday for at least an hour and be fed and given shelter and you get alot back if you give them that. with people that is often not the case, they nearly always have "conditions/demands". Theres one thing i agree with about Xl bullies and that is that they are like they are because of humans, they are a very manufactured/breed and i do think breeding of them should be banned as with any fighting dog breed, but i agree its not the animals fault they are the way they are, just like its not a border collie or a kelpies fault that they are hyper and cant stop rounding things up and they repetatively chase a ball and keep bringing it back and dropping it at your feet over and over again, it is human interference that created these traits, but constantly dropping a ball at your feet although annoying isnt going to maime or kill anyone.
I totally agree with you, but the problem is if your dog is big and you cant control it , and perhaps haven't done adequate training it can cause serious serious damage
@user-ro8jm2zf9v definitely not. I was walking past a pit bull had nozzle on and lead women seemed lovely and dog well looked after. It went mad at me the only thing i could think of is my white dangling earphones that may have upset it.she apologised and pulled it away. If that dog had no lead or nozzle I'd be a statistic
A woman or a man or both together are not capable of restraining a 40kg bully breed of dog once it has made the decision to engage in an attack on something, be it human or animal. And women in my experience usually just syand there panicing when their dog gets in a fight and if their dog happens to be a bull breed then Christ help us...
Exactly specially this breed ... The dog owner herself admitted she can't trust the dog 100% which why on lead n mussel that in itself is rare idk if was a slip up coz normally they will never admit this
@@Kiki_babies Licenses still won't help because unscrupulous people still won't get one why those who care about there dogs will 🤣 Also who's going to make sure everyone has one the police who already have trouble with their own jobs. Your not going to be able to make sure every single dog owner has a licence it's why the government got rid of them in the first place.
@@angelusgaston5922The don’t do anything because nothing ever works argument. The dumbest argument ever made. I have a better idea, why don’t we actually do stuff that works like licensing.
My dog got ripped to shreds by an xl bully who's owner walked him in the woods and through lakes daily, who spent hundreds so he could eat a raw diet every week and they was best friends who played together every day so all these people saying its not the dog its the owner needs to sit down and accept that your dog might be perfect to until you can't control them and then you risk prison if it was a kid in surgery instead of my dog and I'm 17stn and the owner was about 15 and his misses about 8 and it took about 3-4 minutes to get its teeth out of my dogs head so the average person won't be able to handle it if their dog turns one day. I understand that it's hard to accept that your dog is capable of that but that's pretty good proof that an xl with the best life any dog could have can become that dangerous for no reason and if you are not willing to register the dog and walk them without protection then you shouldn't have any dog regardless of the breed
Chances are the XL still didn't have the best start in life. Not many owners know how and where these dogs are bred. The problem starts with the breeder, before the dogs even open their eyes :(
@@thewr0ngchild oh for god sake, THE DOGS ARE HALF PITBULL, PITBULLS ARE FIGHTING DOGS, THEY COME FROM BULL BAITING LINES WHICH ARE BRED TO BITE AND HANG ON, THIS ABILITY WAS THEN BRED FOR DOG FIGHTING. MEANING THE DOGS WERE BREAD TO DROWN OUT THE NOISE OF A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE SCREAMING AT THEM, WHILE THEY KILL THE OTHER DOG. THEY ARE BRED TO KILL AND NOT LOOSE FOCUS ON THERE KILL.
@@thewr0ngchild the problem there though is everyone can claim they're a breeder with some doctored paperwork, the only other thing that would work is a dangerous dog licence with an id card a certificate and the same rules there is now but that's the problem with it now, nobody wants to follow the new rules to keep their dog so a licence wouldn't work either because people would still be protested
@@longshanks90 do you know most Pitbull are bread to be companion dogs. Only a small amount are bred for fighting and the breeders would not outcross their dogs, they are bread like race horses . Ask anyone who knows about fighting dogs not the government or the media stigma. Don't get me wrong I am against dog fighting I hate it. The Pitbull is the world's most people friendly dog and misunderstood. Please do some research by relyble course. It's true most people who give these dogs a bad name no nothing about them. Extra large bullys have champions dog fighters in them is government bullshit .
Why choose a cane corso? Why choose a presa canario? Why choose a dogo argentino? Why choose a rottweiler? Why choose a German Sheppard? Why choose a kangal? All these dogs are as strong, if not stronger in the xl bully. Banning breeds don't do anything to stop dog attacks? Marke my words, the cane corso is starting to become very popular, just like the xl bully did, and watch what will happen In a few years, they will do MUCH more damage than an xl bully, what are we gonna do ban cane corso? Maybe the system is flawed, certain breeds require certain owners and I think an owner should be able to prove they are capable of owning that dig before buying.
@@skater1048 'Maybe the system is flawed....' I agree. Maybe every breed of dog that can grow to in excess of 50KG as an adult should required public liability insurance. Certain breeds would become prohibitively expensive so simply unattainable for the vast majority of people.
@@skater1048 the Cane Corso is presently a very rare breed in the UK, as are a couple of others you've mentioned. However, if the violent idiot thugs and deluded fools who want a 'fur baby' capable of ripping a grown man apart decide to start purchasing said breeds, then I GAURANTEE the same ban will come into place for them. As for German Shepherds, they're a much more popular breed than xl bullys but statistically there are far fewer attacks by them. You do make a good point though :)
@@skater1048 cant buy them if they dont exist which they didnt always. Growing up in the 70s in Australia , we always had two or 3 dogs at a time. We bred and showed pedigree Collie Rough(lassie) which are more the size /weight of a german shepherd. In those days the people around us all had pure bred dogs like german shepherds, dalmations, golden retrievers, dobermans, old english sheepdogs and kelpies,generally dogs of similar size. (Although i did know a family that had great danes) but none with rottweilers or putbulls. My collies put german shepherds and dobermans down a few times when we were out walking, but they werent injured, just overpowered. Everyones dogs were intact, we seldom put leads or collars on them (unless in the showring) dog fights were common if you didnt sight a same sex dog before your dog did, but injuries from dogs fighting was very uncommon. This is because other non fighting dog breeds do not naturally fight to death or injury, the species could not survive if it did. Unfortunately though fighting dog breeds were bred to do that/go against natural instinct and kill and maime whatever they choose to attack. When in the showring we were in the working dog group, a show lead is a flimsy piece of nylon, all dogs in the showring were intact and you would show against males and females, your dog cant turn around and growl at another dog or lunge etc and they didnt. If you had a bunch of different fighting dog breeds at a showring i dont think the result would be quite the same. Point being, banning breeding of certain fighting dog breeds will stop dog attacks to the extent of death. In the first 30 years of my dog ownership i never saw one dogfight that resulted in severe injury or death of a human or other dog. However in the last 12 years of dog ownership i have seen several dog attacks that have resulted in severe injury or death to other dogs and/or people (too many to count) 98%of them the attacking dog was a bull breed, the other 2% were fighting dog breeds (1 rottweiler, 1 american akita). Havibg said that i have also met very well behaved akitas , rottweilers and bull breeds that play well with my dog, but it doesnt change the fact that in both worldwide statistics and my own 50plus years of dog ownership experience that bull/fighting dog breeds are nearly always the ones doing the damage.
Facts and they think bullies are big and powerful the Boerboel can be 240 pound athletic monster but I’m just glad I don’t live in there cause any dog of any breed can be dangerous pretty soon yall might not have dogs
What's the betting that every one of the owners of the 23 bully XL owners whose dogs killed 23 people in the UK during the last 3 years thought their dogs were safe and would have objected to their dog wearing a muzzle, then add onto that all the non fatal but life changing injuries these dogs have caused plus all the other dogs this breed has killed - no doubt the owners of those dogs thought that their dogs should not wear a muzzle too. Some of those dogs had never attacked before, it happened out of the blue.
I can speak from experience here as a life time dog owner and some one who has trained guide dog puppies for the blind. 6 years ago I was attacked by a pit bull in my drive way. I pulled into the garage and let my Mal/GSD out of my jeep and she obediently went to the door into the house. At the same time a loose pitbull dragging a chain came from nowhere, and charged me. All I could do is put my hand out and he grabbed it and wouldn’t let go. He was getting ready to shake it like prey when my dog hit it so hard he let go. One bite, broke my thumb in two places, my hand and burst tendons. My dog, suffered broken canine teeth and nine puncture wounds. I was never a fan of pit bulls, pit bully’s or whatever like breed and I certainly do not like them now. BUT…….. having had this traumatic experience, I know many great pitbulls owners. This Pit bull that attacked me was kept chained up and used to fight. I am also against banning pit bulls and agree with what these two people were talking about. The only thing these bans do is punish responsible pet owners. Unfortunately for the pit bull and other mastiff type breeds, is that they attract a certain type of nefarious, irresponsible people that want these powerful type dogs as a status symbol, to breed as a source of income, to fight them or many other reasons that do not have the dogs best interest at heart. These type of owners usually do not spay/neuter or vaccinate their dogs either. The “law” needs to crack down on these type of bad pet owners if there is ever any hope of preventing future harm to both people and animals. The pit bull that attacked me disappeared with his young punk owner, leaving us with a huge medical bill and my left hand permanently scarred and damaged. My dog Reagan saved me that day and is now nine years old and also permanently scarred. Thankfully she is still not dog aggressive and goes everywhere with me.
These people love these dogs until them or there dog are attacked by them my little dog was attacked by one of these monsters put them all down and I don't care if anyone writes a horrible comment about me I won't change my mind about these dogs.
@@melgrant7404 Absolutely. We have several rental houses on the border of Denver. Since they have reversed the pit bull ban, every tenet that has a pit bull has to provide proof of rental insurance, vaccines and proof of spay / neuter and pay an extra fee. Let’s just say the kind of renters that have these dogs, 90% of them decline to continue on with the rental application. When I say absolutely, any dog can bite for any reason. My dog is so gentle but she weighs 95 pounds and she is not over weight. I never allow any child to hang on her or run up to her, especially now that she is older. Although I’m pretty darn sure she wouldn’t bite anyone, she is a dog and I will not set her up to nip or snap at anyone because she might be startled or in pain. I think pit bulls are more dangerous because they are over bred and more popular than most other breeds. People don’t spend the time to exercise these high energy/ high prey driven dogs. A destructive dog is a bored dog. As soon as I hear someone say “oh, you have to know how to train a pit bull”, I just turn away. The truth is, IMO, for any breed, you have to know your dog’s temperament and start training from there. My last GSD did great with the dog packs he knew. But in a dog park, he would pick on and bully the submissive dogs. At 9 weeks old, He was socialized and raised going to dog parks and did great until he didn’t. So I had two options, train it out of him, or manage his behavior. Training worked for large dog parks but not small ones, so I never took him to the smaller ones. I also kept him quiet and in his kennel when kids were running around the yard playing because this triggered him and made him nervous, so he was kept happy in his kennel with a bone and I could enjoy our company without trying to mange his behavior.
Your car is deadly in the wrong hands and so are dogs. Cane corsa and rottweilers are more deadly than the American bully and there's plenty more dog breeds more dangerous especially in the wrong hands. Don't ban the breed for man's mistakes help them instead of persecuting them. In 2 days time every bully. XL bully or any dog that looks like it might be as described on the government website will be PTS that's including pups. Have a heart and help the breed not crucify them
We don’t need to ban all dogs but there’s quite a lot of breeds that should have strict laws imposed on the owners with severe penalties if not abided by.
We certainly don't need to ban all dog breeds! Those that have killed might be banned, though. Certainly dogs that can't be controlled, when necessary. Some dogs are now too strong for even 3 or 4 men together to control, when they attack. Those dogs should be banned! Otherwise, we put out lives in the hands of dogs, which is insane!
The woman in the train station is the reason we need some sort of legislation .. She had zero control of those 2 dogs !!! I've had Bull breeds my whole married life and I have never had a dog behave like the dogs on this video. I agree something needs to be done
Not true. According to the man involved, he'd offered to hold one of her dogs for her as she was trying to adjust the harness of her other dog and couldn't do it AND hold both dogs. That's straight from the mouth of the man who was attacked. @@michaelalderman7896
just by their sheer size and power they are dangerous, any dog can attack but you do at least stand a chance against most , not these, I dont know why you would want one , this lady wants a dog that can hike , thats not a suitable breed for hiking , a licence wont stop attacks
It doesnt matter what anyone says, look at the numbers. We need to go after real hard truth facts not after peoples emotions. The numbers say that pits should have been banned a long time ago. Discussion over.
@@Azubjournithey should ban people like you and a lot of other people too it’s the owners not the dogs my pit is the nicest dog ever I’ve had Rottweilers and pit bulls never had a mean dog got bit my my own shih tzu tho
Yet to see an XL Bully that’s not dragging it’s owner down the street. Sick of hearing how gentle and loving they are. They look savage as f@€K which unfortunately seem to of attracted some shady owners. Sadly it doesn’t matter in the UK if you’ve got a XL or a pug the standard of dog handling is pathetic.
@@K3Y53R_S0Z3 No ! Because you seem like the type of person to just judge someone on their looks also. You have never owned one or Been around one or walked one so what would you know about them !? And if they aren't properly trained it's easier for them to pull abit especially if they aren't very well exercised as well. They are very strong to constantly hold back. As I can imagine a great Dane would be.
@@winbig1 I know something about them. They’re now on the banned list, because they’ve been bred away from the AKC standard by backyard breeders so every dimwit on the estate can be dragged about like they’re a player! You’re right about them being hard work walking, unless you get on top of the training. When you’ve got a dog that has the potential to cause the level of damage an XL can unleash it’s extra important to have it well trained and socialised. Sadly the state of affairs in the UK today has meant the Government has had to step in to regulate the breed. But it’s the XL owner’s that need to take a look in the mirror and ask what have they done (or not done) to bring on these measures.
I had a close call with an XL bully just a couple of days ago, I was walking down the street and passed a shop doorway, lurking in it were 3 people and their XL bully, as I passed, the dog lunged at me, fortunately as I had several layers on, including a large padded jacket the dog only caught my sleeve....now I'm a dog lover and sadly I wholeheartedly agree with the ban!....all you have to do is Muzzle, neuter and register, what is the big problem with that!....of course idiots will move on to other breeds, I'm already seeing Cane Corso's becoming more common locally, God help us all when they end up with idiots on the other end of the leash!!!..🐕
The ban has not come soon enough! People complaining need to stop for a minute and think about the damage these dogs have done. I guarantee if anyone opposed to the ban had been attacked themselves or lost a child or loved one to an XL bully attack they w ould have a very different view. The sheer size and capabilities of these dogs makes them too much of a risk to be in public: coupled with their incredible tolerance for pain, they are near impossible to stop. This breed along with some of the large mastiffs like the Cane Corso and Presa Canario are totally unsuitable for suburban living, as are many the livestock guardians like the Kangal. The dangerous dog act must be revised to encompass more of these breeds.
There already is a law that they must be on leads...just the other day i saw a man walking a dog i didnt recognise and when i got closer with my dog his dog started to tremble and shake and was absolutely terrified when i commented he explained she was actually a 4month old border collie puppy , she was nearly completely shaven, he turned her over and showed me she had a trail of stitches that went from her stomach full circle over her back and around the otherside, he explained they had been walking her on the footpath when a staffy came flying out the front door of a house and grabbed her picked her up and began shaking her...turns out the people that owned the staffy had "rescued" it from the rspca 3 weeks earlier and the staffy whilst great with its new owners apparently very affectionate and sweet with their children, it doesnt like puppies...whilst the border collie puppy has miraculosly survived the attack physically, i doubt this dog will ever be confident around other dogs and will probably be aggressive to other dogs itself once it matures.
Wrong, most dogs can kill, but don't want to. If they're threatened, they growl as a warning, then bite and release. But the key difference between most dogs, and pitbulls, is that pitbulls were bred to be willing to fight to the death (the trait called Gameness) To be relentless, to continue attacking no matter how much damage they've taken. Pitbulls aren't defensive fighters, they're offensive. They get excited, their prey drive gets triggered and they enjoy fighting. Not even wild animals like wolves are like that. Pitbulls are a monster of human arrogance a killing machine with the self-preservation bred out.
I’m sorry but however hard or well you train a dog they have an inherent nature to use aggression when cornered or under perceived threat. The fact is that a cornered Chihuahua can’t do much damage but an XL Bully dog can. It has physiological strengths which can overpower most things in attacks. I was brought up with dogs, I am a dog owner, but I know that certain dogs have a propensity to snap. Of course, an owner of one of these dogs will do the usual and say how angelic, how wonderfully cute and cuddly they are. Then you hear the “I don’t know what happened it never did this before” excuse when it’s too late. A little bit like the parents of a criminal saying how caring and loving they are despite doing something violent. It’s simply a selfish lack of awareness for some sort of perverse kudos and attention. This woman says that some people are scared of dogs, she fails to understand that certain dogs scare ALL people. As I say, I have been brought up around all sorts of dogs and would say that I am not scared of many, but if one of these dogs walking up to me unmuzzled I would be a concerned; how do I know if it’s trained or not? What I do know is that the likelihood of a positive outcome diminishes when one of these dogs is involved.
I agree with you. Another factor is when an owner loses interest in training and throws him in the back yard. Then they get another one to keep that one company. Then one day down the road they get lose or some kid hops the fence to get their ball and disaster strikes. The two dogs are more bonded to each other than their humans and develop that pack mentally and are even more dangerous. Social media is full of pictures of dogs cuddled up next to a baby with a banner declaring how gentle the breed is. I say how irresponsible it is to do that.
Sol do humans like the guy above said, should someone whos a bigger man get a harsher sentence than a smaller man if they commit a violent offence? just cos the bigger man is potentially able to do more damage? lol no doesnt work like that
There are already rules in place that the dog owner has a responsibility to keep other people, pet or animals safe from their dog. Yet we still have people who will goad their dogs to attack a cat. I once saw a guy that was throwing his staffy in the lake, and commanding it to attack the swans and ducks. A good owner who knows that their dog can be a danger to other people or animals, will do all they can to protect others and other animals.
Breeding boom made the dog cheep and easy for a certain group of people to buy ,once 5 k and after lockdown 500 quid …also bad breeding at 6 or 12 months ,pups giving birth to pups ,inbreeding
Im tired of the excuses. We do not want giant pitbulls in our community. XL Bully's are at least 50% pitbull. They have zero place in our society whatsoever. Anyone who knows dogs can spot one a mile off.
If you are on benefits and social housing.... YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FROM OWNING ANY DOG..... The government give you benefits to feed you and your kids, that money comes from us tax payers.... with the only exception being guide dogs, i bet most XL owners live in social housing or on benefits.....
They'll be on ESA and PIP too, and like having a drink and a smoke and buying lotto tickets, and having affairs with older married women who work in Asda or Tescos.
Ex racing greyhounds are predominantly muzzled when out in public because some of them have strong prey drive and can see other small dogs as prey. These dogs are muzzle-trained from very early days and it does not, in any respect, hinder their quality of life. Equally, the majority of ex racing greyhounds are not allowed off lead in public areas - purely because they are so fast and if they see something to chase you won't catch them. So people do the sensible thing and hire enclosed, safe fields for their dogs to blow off steam in on a weekly basis. I don't see that this is such a big deal for responsible XL bully owners to comply with.
Muzzle training can be a good thing for any dog breed though which is what I don't get. All of mine are muzzle trained incase of an emergency. Say if they get a serious injury and are in so much pain as to risk biting someone or me, pop a muzzle on your safe and so is the vet the dog isn't going to freak out and injure itself more. Ive seen dogs who going to the groomer get aggressive and snap at the groomer muzzle goes on freaking out more because they have never had one on yet your dog also bites at the groomer. Muzzles are literally a good aid to have and it isn't always used to stop aggressive behaviour. My Lurchers and Longdog wear one for lure coursing only to stop them grabbing the lure. My Collie is muzzle trained incase of emergencies were he needs one and every dog I have ever had has been muzzle trained for that reason. Honestly every dog should be muzzle trained in my opinion no matter what it's common sense for any thing that pops up.
A dog walker saved a xl bully that was gonna be put down, well the xl bully killed her within a month of being adopted by her. I guess she wasn't a responsible dog owner or she didn't know enough about them eh?
Graham, I’m shocked at some of the things that you’ve said in this video, one of them is that you mentioned JR’s and about them doing a lot of damage, in comparison to bully breeds they don’t do much damage and, what’s more, they are not killing people and dogs left right and centre!! They have killed TWO newborn babies in the time since records began, pit bulls, pit types and pit mixes have killed FIFTY people since records began and TWENTY FOUR people have been killed by ALL other breeds combined (including the 2 JR’s) since records began !! THAT i would say speaks VOLUMES
I see alot of people throwing around it's not the dog it's always the owner, it's how you raise them it's not the breeding. Yes alot of it is to do with breeding I see people claiming to be breeders of certain breeds yet not one mention of if you breed two dogs with aggressive tendencys your going to get aggressive puppies no matter what. Reputable breeders breed for sound temprements meaning sound puppies and TO STANDARD if your reputable breeders. Alot of these dogs are churned out just for fast cash meaning that the breeders don't care about temprements or standards it's all about making from people. I use to breed GSD's and can tell you for a fact that if I bred two dogs with iffy temprements I can sure as heck say that those puppies wouldn't be of sound mind. It doesn't matter how much training you put in to a dog if it has poor breeding its going to be dangerous no matter what.
Here's the thing. Accidents happen. Dogs can dart out the front door, escape from the backyard, snap out of its halter or leash. Some dogs like some dogs, but dislike others. Some dogs like all people, but some dogs don't. I don't want to be walking my pomeranian with a pitbull straining on his leash on the other side of the street. Sorry.
@@michaelalderman7896 Great. That's you. I can't tell you how many times the dog I owned at the time was chased down the street by German Shepherds, primarily. And ONLY ONCE did the owners apologize. Only ONCE.
Fascinating that no mention by the supposed "dog lovers" on this program was made regarding the too numerous to count dog/animal victims of bully type dogs doing precisely what they insanely created to do.
No worries princess you will be pleased to hear I got rid of my xl bully! Now we are looking for 2 new beautiful Rottweiler to train to scare wet flannels on the streets
@@marktsvetanov6038 From what I've seen IRL and on the internet, when an bully breed goes out of control, even their owners aren't able to stop an attack, they are relentless. Yet I've seen attacking Rotties stop as soon as they get a command from their owners. Thats the problem. I would be less nervous of your two Rotties if I came across them off leash in the park, then I would of one bully. Its a shame, because I know how loving and cuddly bullys can be to their owners and friends, and its not their fault that that lock-on, tenacious, totally focused aggression was breed into them..
Completely agree with Sophie and Graeme There should be a licence system responsible dog owners should teach basic commands such as how to correctly walk a dog and control them so they dont pull, sit, stay. Look. Close, down, off. Been able to recall your dog at any given time (the only dogs I have seen do this are responsible owners who have seen qualified dog trainers) Advanced training You could have dogs that are nervous/reactivity etc Different training for different size dogs Many factors. Dogs personalitys are different and a dog owner will never get the same dog twice!
Sadly though a good idea, that would be almost impossible to enforce.. and the police have far too much other stuff to do…it would possibly in fact end up with wrongly enforced destruction of perfectly behaved dogs…through bad and \ or biased policing .
@elizabethstockdale2784 agree that's why everything needs amending, and changing the DDA as it doesnt work, if you had to pay for a dog licence there are approx 13million dogs in the uk. If only half of the UK say 6.5mill paid for a dog licence at say £35 per dog per year, potentially the government would have over 227million every year and rising for a standalone department to police just dogs. Help get the back street breeders off the streets. And the irresponsible owners. That way the government are actually protecting the Citizens, because its only the responsible and good owners been affected, proven on news today back street breeders have already moved on to another breed ☹️😡🤬
All powerful dogs should require a license, training, and insurance. Make this training compulsory before purchasing, and it will weed out the majority of bad owners. This would likely be better than banning to reduce dog attacks, animal neglect, and future rehoming. For a nation of animal lovers, we are pretty quick to condemn thousands of innocent animals to desth. Additionally whats to be done about future litters of bully mixes? Accidents will no doubt happen, and when they do it takes til 2yrs old for the dogs get over size.....Do the govt really expect their owners to just hand over their beloved family pets for destruction?!? This is not well thought thro, and is less about fixing the problem and more about Rishi being seen to be doing something decisive for once.....
She says the vast majority that might be the case but it does not then deal with the minority that have killed / mauled people.even so called responsible owners dogs have attacked members of there own family and have killed/mauled them.
Yep this is what I said. Alot of the dogs come from backyard breeders who literally don't care about the dogs they pump out. Poorly bred with poor temperaments often aggressive is what are being produced. Puppies don't show it till there mature and people don't ask to see the parents alot of the time so they don't see the aggression. Its funny people complain about reputable breeders ( I complain when it comes to brachiphilic dogs) yet the issue is backyard breeders who charge just as much as a reputable breed for mutts
@@bonysminiatures3123 how would you like to be put on death row because the way you look like. You can't tar all dogs the same like you can't with any livin being. Have a heart.
Then you know nothing about dogs its in their instincts to chase after things that make a high pitch noise eg a scream and run thats any dogs jack russles all the way too cane corsos
I glad the presenter mensioned seeing videos of people training their xl bullies to be aggressive, cause that's exactly what it is. Some people train them to be aggressive, to go after cats, etc. My xl made sure he respected cat, foxs, all animals they would encounter. Now we've adopted two kitens and one 15 year old female cat. My xl gets along great with all of them and is gentle. It's the 15 year old cat that hates the xl and hate the kitens.... Its the owner that creates unstable dogs
It's not always the owner though. You probably got yours from someone who cared about the temprements of the dogs and not just churned them out for a quick buck. Many of these dogs are poorly bred and in the wrong hands no reputable breeder is going to be producing animals with poor temprements that's on those who don't care. I know someone who had one had the dog five years never abused it, had it fully trained as they were in the same training classes and dog display team as me. The dog just one day attacked and killed another dog she owned no provocation or anything just attacked. She got the dog at 16 weeks from her nephew who couldn't look after it when he started work she asked were he got it and he said he got it from a friend who had the parents two dogs who hadn't been done and shouldn't have been bred. Its funny hearing how it's all down to the owner yet I've seen first hand it's not always on the owner and I've seen many stories similar to this one as well.
Sorry but owners are to blame if u have a dog trained correctly any big dog can be dangerous it's a stupid law is ridiculous and the government have blood on there hands!!! Bring back the dog licence!
Handguns were strictly controlled in the UK yet after one incident caused by police corruption they were banned. Since then, armed crime has increased dramatically.
3months later they're still being sold on-line. Everyone contact the police and demand action. The police have to visit every single breeder and advertiser.
Seen plenty of bully dogs loose their temper and the owner fights to control them, thats a big dog that would be hard for anyone to control let alone a smaller person that is not very strong.
Nothing to do with the owner. The dogs have been bred to kill and that’s what they like doing. Two dog trainers/walkers with a lot of experience of dogs have been killed by them. Sophie Coulton is kidding herself: she is no safer from an attack by her dog than anyone else is.
Nothing to do with the owner are you serious!!! Most of them are softer than a brush. It's people who are responsible and it's people who kill more than any animal. People like you need to look at the science not the government and people who as never owned one. Punishment on good owners and letting the idiots getting away with it not to mention killing innocent dogs who have no decent home . Your kidding your self!!!
@@michaelalderman7896 firstly, Natasha Johnson was in her twenties and very experienced with dogs. Secondly, all bull breeds were bred for fighting, not to be companions. XL Bullies make up 1% of the canine population but are responsible for 44% of the attacks and maulings in this country.
You wont get many dogs larger than an XL bully though, its 50-60kg of muscle unlike say a St Bernard which isn't all muscle. They are also bred to kill, there that too.
What about increasing and improving dog facilities for training? Many parks are filled with family and children. If we have designated dog parks, this can help our dogs exercise and train on a daily basis.
bringing in new dog laws does literally nothing to stop the problem if those rules are not enforced. At present there are no ongoing checks ATALL to ensure that people who own dogs on the current dangerous dogs list are following the rules.. so adding more breeds to the list of dogs that need specific handling or safety measures achieves literally nothing if nobody is checking to ensure that all of the owners are actually doing it. There is a little old lady near me whos collie dog has bitten multiple people and animals while walking off lead at the local childrens park.. and the police and dog wardens do literally nothing about it even though shes been reported several times, has been clearly identified, and many of the attacks were recorded on video... so even if dogs required a licence, it would do nothing to prevent dog attacks like this if when those dogs do blatantly attack people the owners dont even get punished.
My daughter has a pure xl and he is the calmest dog you can imagine. He goes to doggy day care most days and is socialized with other dogs and people. Xls became a status dog because of how much they cost, pure bred imports from America £15000. To get round this they were cross bred to get the look of a bully but not the temperament.
@@paulentwistle1204I can't wrap my head around why you would own a strong powerful dog that has the capability to kill a grown man with relative ease due to its biteforce at best you'll end up severely disfigured for the rest of your life how stupid must someone be not worth it at all , its child neglect to have this kind of dog roaming around free in your house around your kid wether you know it or not you are playing russian roulette with the lives of everyone whose around your dog especially your kid , owning an xl bully or any dog that inflicts alot of damage and can kill you in a short space of time is just dumb its the equivalent of owning a chimp , training or not its not worth it even well trained dogs people have owned for years have attacked , if your daughter one day told you she's dating someone who went to prison for murder you'd be scared for her life and you'd advise her for her safety not to date him wouldn't you even if he was rehabilitated and appeared normal would you still feel uncomfortable with your daughter dating or even being around someone who has done that to someone you wouldn't would you because your a good smart parent who cares for their kids right , then why own an xl bully why trust a dog that is capable of such damage and putting you , your daughter or anyone else's lives in potential danger , you know there are hundreds of stories of dogs especially pitbulls ( who are just smaller xl bullies ) in the US that attacked and mauled their owners , children and other people's pets for absolutely no reason , dogs they have owned , trained and cared for since birth suddenly betray them and leave them in a pool of their own blood , playing around with their guts in their mouth like a chew toy , this future scenario is entirely possible for an xl bully owner , get a dog with less risk factor be smart use your brain and do the right thing , if your dog is to attack your daughter ( and it would most likely kill her ) you would feel guilty and forever tormented , you'd be thinking to yourself it should have been you and I agree if you own a dog like that and it does attack it should attack the owner no one else should face the consequences and bite the bullet for someone else's idiotic decisions , good luck and get rid of the dog
I want to know from the owners if they can train their dogs instinct to attack - I get scared easily if a dog comes running to me. My scared reaction arouses their instincts to charge and attack me - no amount of training by the dog owners can change that a dog isn’t a car which only requires the owners to drive properly. A dog is a living being with a mind of its own. What should a scared person like me do when a huge bully dog charges towards me while I’m going about my day? You might be a good dog owner but I’m a bad pedestrian as I am scared easily by a dog running towards me - and the dog is good till it encounters a scared pedestrian!
keep special treats ready in your pocket. ask owner if you can give the dog a treat. If you are scared, hand it to the owner. Tell the dog what a good dog they are. Since the owners aren't socializing their dogs, it would be great if others like you can let these dogs know that most humans are friendly.
I think it depends what area you live in as well. Interesting how they pick a sweet looking lady, the presenters, her and the TV dog expert, probably do not live on a council estate like myself. I love dogs, I own three, I love my community BUT bully dogs round here are a real problem. It is sad to say, young men who can barely restrain the dogs, they don't get enough exercise as most of them are living in flats. Easy to say don't judge them on what they look like, if you live in a twee part of the country, where financial, and lack of adequate housing etc is having a direct effect on working class people and as a by product causing a lot of aggression in the ' bully dog owners' let alone the lunging dog at the end of the lead.
Typical government rather punish innocent dogs and responsible owners. And the people who support this horrible law are just as bad. These poor dogs are abused by horrible people to make them that way. This so called government should be doing something to sort that out.
They should be banned but the owners of the existing bully’s should be allowed to keep them as long as they’re muzzled and on a lead while out in public. In fact all of these cross bred large dogs should be banned.
I do not have an Xl bully BUT I have a large breed dog (Mastiff x Rottweiler) and had Dobermans in the past, who are fantastic family dogs yet used to be called devil dogs. When I decided to have my first dog I went to dog training classes and it has given me the knowledge needed for my dogs since then. The problem is the owners, Willow is allowed off lead on walks, obviously not near roads. And if I see another dog on a lead she is put on her lead. Not to protect them but her. When someone passes by she is told to stand and wait. Then she is given permission to move on, I have people of all ages asking if they can say hello and she loves it. I have had many dogs go to attack her , often small supposedly family friendly dogs. Luckily my dog has NEVER EVER retaliated because she is well trained. If you have any dog , I don’t care if it’s a chihuahua or an XL Bully all dogs need training, given boundaries and manners not babying. All training with love and kindness. You can’t label a whole breed as bad because of the owners who can’t be bothered to put the work in with a puppy and reinforce it throughout the dogs happy existence. The government need to get a grip instead of using sledgehammer to crack a walnut ! We have a generation of teenagers who have no respect and are downright abusive and violent. Look at knife crime and attacks on their peers and older adults in the UK . Are the government going to put a ban on those breeding, maybe add permanent tags to them . Stop the idiots who buy dogs without any intention of training their dogs.
lol have you done any research on the breed and the amount of attacks that happen by them? It’s ridiculous. We label the breed because they need to be labeled. They are naturally aggressive and need to be banned. “ItS nOt tHe dOg, ItS ThE OwNeR”. No it is the dog breed lol. Statistics prove it. In 2019 it was reported that pit bulls are responsible for 91% of attacks on other animals. 91 percent lol. Are you kidding me? Again it’s def the breed.
My neighbour had 2 bully dogs , both broke through my fences and roamed around my garden. She gave the 1st away, then the second couldn’t cope with them
People need to undergo basic dog owners training to qualify to get a dog licence before they are allowed to own any dog breed. I was bitten only once by a dog in my entire life so far. It was an English Cocker Spaniel. I was cycling. The dog was on a leash being held by an old lady. The dog stood across the bike path, so I had to stop. As soon as I put my foot on the ground it bit me on my thigh. No barking, no display of aggression. Just lunget straight at me and bit me. 🤷♂️
Thing is the people who shouldnt have dogs but still get them are the same people who would get the dog and not the license .there is no way of inforcing it .its the breeding what needs to stop
@@Lolodewednesday - Well, police could stop people walking dogs and ask to see the dog licence. If an incident involving a dog happens, and police or local authorities are called and they find out that the dog owner does not have a dig licence then the dog/dogs are taken away no questions asked and the dog owner penalised. Bottom line, having that licence requirement would be one extra layer of protection for the community. And it will make life a lot easier for dog owners as they would learn basic knowledge about how to handle a dog. Just watch videos of dog trainers such as Cesar Millan here on TH-cam and you can see how incredibly ignorant most people are when dealing with their own pet dog. And this causes major problems for the dog owners. And only after having problems they call professional dog trainers for help. A dog licence training will give dog owners the tools to properly treat their dog and fully enjoy having a dog, without having dog drama occurring in the first place. 🤷♂️ 🐕 🐕🦺
@@Lolodewednesday he also isn't a dog behaviourist his methods are old and outdated and been shut down as harmful by vets and actual behaviorists. His Alpha theory is an old outdated method actually debunked by the guy who originally wrote it.
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax and police would be to busy policing this to be able to do their actual job. Anything that is brought in would not be able to be carried out because there is far too many dogs who will be with out licensing. Its one of the reasons it was scrapped in the first place.
Has the c19 jab made a lot of people hate more. So much negativity and hate on a breed of dog. Shouldn't have to explain why you chose a particular breed of dog. I would do anything to protect my bully that's why he's exempt. Insured. Muzzle trained. All I see when I'm out walking both my dogs is people with dogs letting them do whatever they want whilst they drink their Costa coffees. Please take a step back and think of all owners with dogs not just yours. My bully has been attacked for no reason by smaller dogs usually spaniel type dogs. Maybe all dogs need to wear a muzzle.
Yes! Not long after sheeple ran to get the kuckoo flu juice,I started noticing severe behavior changes in many people I know, work with, and neighbors I have known and interacted with,for decades. You know after so many years of knowing people, you know their personality, quirks, likes and dislikes, etc- So I saw serious and strange changes, not all of them, but most of them. Just not acting right at all, some the opposite of how they were, some are now downright violent, or always crying.Too much to discuss here, but the answer is yes. Just look around at general changes that happened after the jab, all around the world, compared to how people acted before. (Telegram app doesn't censor. I get a lot of info there)
In the 1970's people got into the trend of having monkeys and gorillas. And they were lovely and they were kind and they could do sign language and then they started biting people's faces off and breaking their bones by hitting them and... Bullies eat babies. That's it. Ban them.
Most of these people who want these type dogs do it as a show of power for them and the dog. Lot of this comes from street gangster culture and it goes perfect with gangster rappers.
They can't do anything like as much damage though. People are even more lax about training small dogs, even though the smaller breeds can be highly tenacious. But ultimately, there's enough size differential between me and a Yorkie that I can get it off me. One of these mutants? No chance.
@randomhumanoidblob4506 yeah that is correct but a small dog if attacked a baby would likely kill said child. As you said the problem is the owner's not caring to train the dog properly
@fishkeeper3799 no because that don't make for headlines like a pitbull or xl bully's does. Just Google how many dog attacks happen in the UK every year and what dogs are involved
Xl bullies have about 5 different breeds in them one being the apbt you should never cross the apbt there’s no need there the ultimate dog and thats the problem scattered bred mutts that are unstable I’ve owned American pitbull terriers for over 30yrs never had one problem with human aggression not one
You have to take a generalised view of the issues regarding the dogs on the UK banned list. 30 years is a lot of experience with a high drive breed. However, I’ll bet you’re a no nonsense owner and a good leader to your dogs. Sadly this isn’t the case across the board with many owners of XL’s and other game dogs being incredibly weak as owners!
The person wanting a dog should be vetted…allowing meat heads any dog to abuse is wrong…vet the people who have dogs..I’ve grown up with all breeds of dogs..sat with them in their kennels…no bad dogs..bad owners..
@@GAMEDOG420 I'm afraid I've had bad experiences with ' Pitbull types' leading to vet bills. I didn't have time to ask for a DNA test, an apology from the dog owner would have been nice
At last a man who knows what he's talking about when judging dog breeds ...I'm over the moon ...and I loved his rapid response when that dimwit mentioned Jack russels...QUALITY beautiful dog loving owner and common sense for once 😂 hats off
Its bollocks and unfair. Like initiating a knife ban that affects all legitimate users when legislation is already in place to deal with those who used such devices as weapons, with minimal penalties.
My Bichón fríse is not aggressive by nature. He doesn't even tell other dogs off because it is not in his genetics. Furthermore he is not of a size that could kill an adult child or a baby.
Yall gotta remember these dogs only got popularity in pandemic times, the APBT was banned sadly so people looked at other options, my opinion is no breed should be banned, why on earth was the Japanese Tosa banned tho 😂, so ridiculous, I'm betting there was barely 20 in the country but they somehow got banned
The Tosa is banned or restricted in a lot of countries. It's another breed that was initially breed purely for fighting and all the traits that would make them good at that are hardwired into them. So despite there being very few of them in the UK at the time they were banned, I can see the logic of it. Nip the problem in the bud before it becomes a problem. If you ban one type of "fighting" dog, the people that want the dogs for nefarious purposes will seek out another and the once rare Tosa, suddenly becomes more and more common.
He said stay calm don't run... Hah!! Get something between you and it.. Cry out for help shout NO in the loudest, lowest voice you can muster, keep behind A bike a wall, a fence, a lamppost a gate a post box, another person! "a gate, a door, a car., a tree. And /Or Then if able get higher up than the dog they ain't great at climbing, on a car,, getting ready to keep kicking it back down, wall, up a tree etc good luck... Try not to stand there terrified like a complete ninny hoping it's owner shows like this bloke recommended... Poppycock... BS
All big dogs over a certain weight are dangerous you should have to pay a very expensive licence to own one also the owners should have them trained professionally
The people who do bad things with the dogs will just get a different dog. It's absolutely horrible to ban a breed like this it's incredibly ignorant and narrow minded.
Let's be honest some people shouldnt be allowed dogs period let alone xl bullys .
I agree it's the owners with the trophy dog on a chain. Irresponsible dog owners. They will replace their dog tomorrow they don't love their dog. They will also break the law and still own these dogs. This country always hits easy targets. which is the responsible dog owners who worship their pets.
It's really sad to put healthy, loving dogs to sleep. It's so wrong!!
Agreed@@gaynor7947
@@gaynor7947 you're so right. I'm 65 years old I have had staffie dogs most of my life and I've had nothing but love and joy from every dog. I am fed up with a lot of people looking down at me as I'm some criminal for owning these sweet dogs. It makes me sick of these idiots owning any type of dog. Extra large bullys I have met are gentle giants but they all have had good owners. Like the old saying goes a dog is good as the owner. Happy new year
@@MichealDay
Exactly that Micheal
Happy New Year 🥰
@@gaynor7947This ban is much like the handgun ban, it has a bigger effect on decent law abiding people.
Dog owners are such sensitive souls. ANY criticism of their dog means a criticism of them. They need to accept, like kids, it is YOUR choice to have a dog. Do not inflict your choices on other people.
Brilliant comment!
I been soo frustrated talkin to these dog owners
Mate your spot on with this comment 👍🏽
If all humans were nice, no one would need or want a dog.
@@australiansiberianhuskyspi4399 just wth does that mean?
@@australiansiberianhuskyspi4399 what's that supposed to mean u nutter 😂
@@Musa786-lx2ui it means exactly what it says ie alot of people arent very nice to eachother and thats why alot of dog owners choose to have dogs, alot of dogs love unconditionally, all they ask is to be walked everyday for at least an hour and be fed and given shelter and you get alot back if you give them that. with people that is often not the case, they nearly always have "conditions/demands". Theres one thing i agree with about Xl bullies and that is that they are like they are because of humans, they are a very manufactured/breed and i do think breeding of them should be banned as with any fighting dog breed, but i agree its not the animals fault they are the way they are, just like its not a border collie or a kelpies fault that they are hyper and cant stop rounding things up and they repetatively chase a ball and keep bringing it back and dropping it at your feet over and over again, it is human interference that created these traits, but constantly dropping a ball at your feet although annoying isnt going to maime or kill anyone.
Being a decent owner doesnt always stop a dog attack.
I totally agree with you, but the problem is if your dog is big and you cant control it , and perhaps haven't done adequate training it can cause serious serious damage
It's the owners dog to keep the dog and public safe. You can't have a dog off the leash with children around.
@user-ro8jm2zf9v definitely not. I was walking past a pit bull had nozzle on and lead women seemed lovely and dog well looked after. It went mad at me the only thing i could think of is my white dangling earphones that may have upset it.she apologised and pulled it away. If that dog had no lead or nozzle I'd be a statistic
A woman or a man or both together are not capable of restraining a 40kg bully breed of dog once it has made the decision to engage in an attack on something, be it human or animal. And women in my experience usually just syand there panicing when their dog gets in a fight and if their dog happens to be a bull breed then Christ help us...
Exactly specially this breed ...
The dog owner herself admitted she can't trust the dog 100% which why on lead n mussel that in itself is rare idk if was a slip up coz normally they will never admit this
So it's true, the owners only wanted the dogs because they are large and agressive. And will now seek even more dangerous dogs😂
The bad ones yes, that's why licensing is so important
@@Kiki_babiesLicences have stopped poor people owning pets, even like poodles! You don't need a licence to be subject to the law. Just have laws!
The answer is simple! Ban all big breeds of fighting dog! It's saddening, but at least we will be safe from idiots!
@@Kiki_babies
Licenses still won't help because unscrupulous people still won't get one why those who care about there dogs will 🤣
Also who's going to make sure everyone has one the police who already have trouble with their own jobs.
Your not going to be able to make sure every single dog owner has a licence it's why the government got rid of them in the first place.
@@angelusgaston5922The don’t do anything because nothing ever works argument. The dumbest argument ever made. I have a better idea, why don’t we actually do stuff that works like licensing.
My dog got ripped to shreds by an xl bully who's owner walked him in the woods and through lakes daily, who spent hundreds so he could eat a raw diet every week and they was best friends who played together every day so all these people saying its not the dog its the owner needs to sit down and accept that your dog might be perfect to until you can't control them and then you risk prison if it was a kid in surgery instead of my dog and I'm 17stn and the owner was about 15 and his misses about 8 and it took about 3-4 minutes to get its teeth out of my dogs head so the average person won't be able to handle it if their dog turns one day. I understand that it's hard to accept that your dog is capable of that but that's pretty good proof that an xl with the best life any dog could have can become that dangerous for no reason and if you are not willing to register the dog and walk them without protection then you shouldn't have any dog regardless of the breed
Chances are the XL still didn't have the best start in life. Not many owners know how and where these dogs are bred. The problem starts with the breeder, before the dogs even open their eyes :(
@@thewr0ngchild oh for god sake, THE DOGS ARE HALF PITBULL, PITBULLS ARE FIGHTING DOGS, THEY COME FROM BULL BAITING LINES WHICH ARE BRED TO BITE AND HANG ON, THIS ABILITY WAS THEN BRED FOR DOG FIGHTING. MEANING THE DOGS WERE BREAD TO DROWN OUT THE NOISE OF A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE SCREAMING AT THEM, WHILE THEY KILL THE OTHER DOG.
THEY ARE BRED TO KILL AND NOT LOOSE FOCUS ON THERE KILL.
@@brettharter143 I already know this, and you need a new keyboard, your caps lock is stuck.
@@thewr0ngchild the problem there though is everyone can claim they're a breeder with some doctored paperwork, the only other thing that would work is a dangerous dog licence with an id card a certificate and the same rules there is now but that's the problem with it now, nobody wants to follow the new rules to keep their dog so a licence wouldn't work either because people would still be protested
@@longshanks90 do you know most Pitbull are bread to be companion dogs. Only a small amount are bred for fighting and the breeders would not outcross their dogs, they are bread like race horses . Ask anyone who knows about fighting dogs not the government or the media stigma. Don't get me wrong I am against dog fighting I hate it. The Pitbull is the world's most people friendly dog and misunderstood. Please do some research by relyble course. It's true most people who give these dogs a bad name no nothing about them. Extra large bullys have champions dog fighters in them is government bullshit .
theres 100 breeds to choose from why choose this absolute beast , makes no sense to me
Why choose a cane corso? Why choose a presa canario? Why choose a dogo argentino? Why choose a rottweiler? Why choose a German Sheppard? Why choose a kangal? All these dogs are as strong, if not stronger in the xl bully. Banning breeds don't do anything to stop dog attacks? Marke my words, the cane corso is starting to become very popular, just like the xl bully did, and watch what will happen In a few years, they will do MUCH more damage than an xl bully, what are we gonna do ban cane corso? Maybe the system is flawed, certain breeds require certain owners and I think an owner should be able to prove they are capable of owning that dig before buying.
@@skater1048 'Maybe the system is flawed....' I agree. Maybe every breed of dog that can grow to in excess of 50KG as an adult should required public liability insurance. Certain breeds would become prohibitively expensive so simply unattainable for the vast majority of people.
@@skater1048 the Cane Corso is presently a very rare breed in the UK, as are a couple of others you've mentioned. However, if the violent idiot thugs and deluded fools who want a 'fur baby' capable of ripping a grown man apart decide to start purchasing said breeds, then I GAURANTEE the same ban will come into place for them. As for German Shepherds, they're a much more popular breed than xl bullys but statistically there are far fewer attacks by them.
You do make a good point though :)
@@skater1048 cant buy them if they dont exist which they didnt always. Growing up in the 70s in Australia , we always had two or 3 dogs at a time. We bred and showed pedigree Collie Rough(lassie) which are more the size /weight of a german shepherd. In those days the people around us all had pure bred dogs like german shepherds, dalmations, golden retrievers, dobermans, old english sheepdogs and kelpies,generally dogs of similar size. (Although i did know a family that had great danes) but none with rottweilers or putbulls. My collies put german shepherds and dobermans down a few times when we were out walking, but they werent injured, just overpowered. Everyones dogs were intact, we seldom put leads or collars on them (unless in the showring) dog fights were common if you didnt sight a same sex dog before your dog did, but injuries from dogs fighting was very uncommon. This is because other non fighting dog breeds do not naturally fight to death or injury, the species could not survive if it did. Unfortunately though fighting dog breeds were bred to do that/go against natural instinct and kill and maime whatever they choose to attack. When in the showring we were in the working dog group, a show lead is a flimsy piece of nylon, all dogs in the showring were intact and you would show against males and females, your dog cant turn around and growl at another dog or lunge etc and they didnt. If you had a bunch of different fighting dog breeds at a showring i dont think the result would be quite the same. Point being, banning breeding of certain fighting dog breeds will stop dog attacks to the extent of death. In the first 30 years of my dog ownership i never saw one dogfight that resulted in severe injury or death of a human or other dog. However in the last 12 years of dog ownership i have seen several dog attacks that have resulted in severe injury or death to other dogs and/or people (too many to count) 98%of them the attacking dog was a bull breed, the other 2% were fighting dog breeds (1 rottweiler, 1 american akita). Havibg said that i have also met very well behaved akitas , rottweilers and bull breeds that play well with my dog, but it doesnt change the fact that in both worldwide statistics and my own 50plus years of dog ownership experience that bull/fighting dog breeds are nearly always the ones doing the damage.
I got a feeling cane corsos and boerboel,s are next if these idiot owners get the hands on them
Facts and they think bullies are big and powerful the Boerboel can be 240 pound athletic monster but I’m just glad I don’t live in there cause any dog of any breed can be dangerous pretty soon yall might not have dogs
What's the betting that every one of the owners of the 23 bully XL owners whose dogs killed 23 people in the UK during the last 3 years thought their dogs were safe and would have objected to their dog wearing a muzzle, then add onto that all the non fatal but life changing injuries these dogs have caused plus all the other dogs this breed has killed - no doubt the owners of those dogs thought that their dogs should not wear a muzzle too. Some of those dogs had never attacked before, it happened out of the blue.
Exactly!
I can speak from experience here as a life time dog owner and some one who has trained guide dog puppies for the blind. 6 years ago I was attacked by a pit bull in my drive way. I pulled into the garage and let my Mal/GSD out of my jeep and she obediently went to the door into the house. At the same time a loose pitbull dragging a chain came from nowhere, and charged me. All I could do is put my hand out and he grabbed it and wouldn’t let go. He was getting ready to shake it like prey when my dog hit it so hard he let go. One bite, broke my thumb in two places, my hand and burst tendons. My dog, suffered broken canine teeth and nine puncture wounds. I was never a fan of pit bulls, pit bully’s or whatever like breed and I certainly do not like them now. BUT…….. having had this traumatic experience, I know many great pitbulls owners. This Pit bull that attacked me was kept chained up and used to fight. I am also against banning pit bulls and agree with what these two people were talking about. The only thing these bans do is punish responsible pet owners. Unfortunately for the pit bull and other mastiff type breeds, is that they attract a certain type of nefarious, irresponsible people that want these powerful type dogs as a status symbol, to breed as a source of income, to fight them or many other reasons that do not have the dogs best interest at heart. These type of owners usually do not spay/neuter or vaccinate their dogs either. The “law” needs to crack down on these type of bad pet owners if there is ever any hope of preventing future harm to both people and animals. The pit bull that attacked me disappeared with his young punk owner, leaving us with a huge medical bill and my left hand permanently scarred and damaged. My dog Reagan saved me that day and is now nine years old and also permanently scarred. Thankfully she is still not dog aggressive and goes everywhere with me.
These people love these dogs until them or there dog are attacked by them my little dog was attacked by one of these monsters put them all down and I don't care if anyone writes a horrible comment about me I won't change my mind about these dogs.
Don't you think though that even with decent owners these dogs are still dangerous.
Not the dog it's the owner I have bred and owned English bullterriers my dogs have been attacked but they can look after themselves.
@@melgrant7404 Absolutely. We have several rental houses on the border of Denver. Since they have reversed the pit bull ban, every tenet that has a pit bull has to provide proof of rental insurance, vaccines and proof of spay / neuter and pay an extra fee. Let’s just say the kind of renters that have these dogs, 90% of them decline to continue on with the rental application.
When I say absolutely, any dog can bite for any reason. My dog is so gentle but she weighs 95 pounds and she is not over weight. I never allow any child to hang on her or run up to her, especially now that she is older. Although I’m pretty darn sure she wouldn’t bite anyone, she is a dog and I will not set her up to nip or snap at anyone because she might be startled or in pain. I think pit bulls are more dangerous because they are over bred and more popular than most other breeds. People don’t spend the time to exercise these high energy/ high prey driven dogs. A destructive dog is a bored dog.
As soon as I hear someone say “oh, you have to know how to train a pit bull”, I just turn away. The truth is, IMO, for any breed, you have to know your dog’s temperament and start training from there. My last GSD did great with the dog packs he knew. But in a dog park, he would pick on and bully the submissive dogs. At 9 weeks old, He was socialized and raised going to dog parks and did great until he didn’t. So I had two options, train it out of him, or manage his behavior. Training worked for large dog parks but not small ones, so I never took him to the smaller ones. I also kept him quiet and in his kennel when kids were running around the yard playing because this triggered him and made him nervous, so he was kept happy in his kennel with a bone and I could enjoy our company without trying to mange his behavior.
Your car is deadly in the wrong hands and so are dogs. Cane corsa and rottweilers are more deadly than the American bully and there's plenty more dog breeds more dangerous especially in the wrong hands. Don't ban the breed for man's mistakes help them instead of persecuting them. In 2 days time every bully. XL bully or any dog that looks like it might be as described on the government website will be PTS that's including pups. Have a heart and help the breed not crucify them
I have a pet lion....... it won t hurt anyone if i walk it round town... trust me im a great owner who lives in my own self centered world
We don’t need to ban all dogs but there’s quite a lot of breeds that should have strict laws imposed on the owners with severe penalties if not abided by.
We certainly don't need to ban all dog breeds! Those that have killed might be banned, though. Certainly dogs that can't be controlled, when necessary. Some dogs are now too strong for even 3 or 4 men together to control, when they attack. Those dogs should be banned! Otherwise, we put out lives in the hands of dogs, which is insane!
The woman in the train station is the reason we need some sort of legislation .. She had zero control of those 2 dogs !!!
I've had Bull breeds my whole married life and I have never had a dog behave like the dogs on this video.
I agree something needs to be done
@@michaelalderman7896 but she still couldn't control them !!!!
And that's the point isn't it.
And what if they were in protection mode and a kid was in the way...
My point still stands also @@michaelalderman7896
Not true. According to the man involved, he'd offered to hold one of her dogs for her as she was trying to adjust the harness of her other dog and couldn't do it AND hold both dogs. That's straight from the mouth of the man who was attacked. @@michaelalderman7896
just by their sheer size and power they are dangerous, any dog can attack but you do at least stand a chance against most , not these, I dont know why you would want one , this lady wants a dog that can hike , thats not a suitable breed for hiking , a licence wont stop attacks
Yeah most xl bully owners are just hoping for the best.
It doesnt matter what anyone says, look at the numbers. We need to go after real hard truth facts not after peoples emotions. The numbers say that pits should have been banned a long time ago. Discussion over.
Still can’t understand why when Pit Bulls were banned with the same rules twenty years ago they are still around ,sterile dogs don’t have litters😏😉
@@michaelalderman7896 Anger issues?😂
@@Azubjournithey should ban people like you and a lot of other people too it’s the owners not the dogs my pit is the nicest dog ever I’ve had Rottweilers and pit bulls never had a mean dog got bit my my own shih tzu tho
Yet to see an XL Bully that’s not dragging it’s owner down the street. Sick of hearing how gentle and loving they are. They look savage as f@€K which unfortunately seem to of attracted some shady owners. Sadly it doesn’t matter in the UK if you’ve got a XL or a pug the standard of dog handling is pathetic.
Then you haven't lived. If you have never been around them then how do you know anything about them !?
@@winbig1 I don’t understand your comment. I haven’t lived because I’ve never seen an XL Bully being walked without pulling its owner down the street?
@@K3Y53R_S0Z3 No ! Because you seem like the type of person to just judge someone on their looks also. You have never owned one or Been around one or walked one so what would you know about them !? And if they aren't properly trained it's easier for them to pull abit especially if they aren't very well exercised as well. They are very strong to constantly hold back. As I can imagine a great Dane would be.
@@winbig1 I know something about them. They’re now on the banned list, because they’ve been bred away from the AKC standard by backyard breeders so every dimwit on the estate can be dragged about like they’re a player! You’re right about them being hard work walking, unless you get on top of the training. When you’ve got a dog that has the potential to cause the level of damage an XL can unleash it’s extra important to have it well trained and socialised. Sadly the state of affairs in the UK today has meant the Government has had to step in to regulate the breed. But it’s the XL owner’s that need to take a look in the mirror and ask what have they done (or not done) to bring on these measures.
I had a close call with an XL bully just a couple of days ago, I was walking down the street and passed a shop doorway, lurking in it were 3 people and their XL bully, as I passed, the dog lunged at me, fortunately as I had several layers on, including a large padded jacket the dog only caught my sleeve....now I'm a dog lover and sadly I wholeheartedly agree with the ban!....all you have to do is Muzzle, neuter and register, what is the big problem with that!....of course idiots will move on to other breeds, I'm already seeing Cane Corso's becoming more common locally, God help us all when they end up with idiots on the other end of the leash!!!..🐕
The ban has not come soon enough! People complaining need to stop for a minute and think about the damage these dogs have done. I guarantee if anyone opposed to the ban had been attacked themselves or lost a child or loved one to an XL bully attack they w ould have a very different view.
The sheer size and capabilities of these dogs makes them too much of a risk to be in public: coupled with their incredible tolerance for pain, they are near impossible to stop.
This breed along with some of the large mastiffs like the Cane Corso and Presa Canario are totally unsuitable for suburban living, as are many the livestock guardians like the Kangal. The dangerous dog act must be revised to encompass more of these breeds.
This dog is generally associated with a certain breed of people.
Iv got one... so want kinda breed of person am I then!???
@@Joseph-wo3tr incredible, people not person. That type of people
Not always.
air heads, probably covered in stupid tattooes@@Joseph-wo3tr
Can't there be a law saying all dogs should be on leads
True that but that does work all time if the dog can pull you over lol
There already is a law that they must be on leads...just the other day i saw a man walking a dog i didnt recognise and when i got closer with my dog his dog started to tremble and shake and was absolutely terrified when i commented he explained she was actually a 4month old border collie puppy , she was nearly completely shaven, he turned her over and showed me she had a trail of stitches that went from her stomach full circle over her back and around the otherside, he explained they had been walking her on the footpath when a staffy came flying out the front door of a house and grabbed her picked her up and began shaking her...turns out the people that owned the staffy had "rescued" it from the rspca 3 weeks earlier and the staffy whilst great with its new owners apparently very affectionate and sweet with their children, it doesnt like puppies...whilst the border collie puppy has miraculosly survived the attack physically, i doubt this dog will ever be confident around other dogs and will probably be aggressive to other dogs itself once it matures.
Most dogs are affectionate. But most breeds can’t kill you.
Wrong, most dogs can kill, but don't want to. If they're threatened, they growl as a warning, then bite and release.
But the key difference between most dogs, and pitbulls, is that pitbulls were bred to be willing to fight to the death (the trait called Gameness) To be relentless, to continue attacking no matter how much damage they've taken. Pitbulls aren't defensive fighters, they're offensive. They get excited, their prey drive gets triggered and they enjoy fighting. Not even wild animals like wolves are like that. Pitbulls are a monster of human arrogance a killing machine with the self-preservation bred out.
@@crazitaco i doubt a bishon frisse could kill lmao
I’m sorry but however hard or well you train a dog they have an inherent nature to use aggression when cornered or under perceived threat. The fact is that a cornered Chihuahua can’t do much damage but an XL Bully dog can. It has physiological strengths which can overpower most things in attacks. I was brought up with dogs, I am a dog owner, but I know that certain dogs have a propensity to snap. Of course, an owner of one of these dogs will do the usual and say how angelic, how wonderfully cute and cuddly they are. Then you hear the “I don’t know what happened it never did this before” excuse when it’s too late. A little bit like the parents of a criminal saying how caring and loving they are despite doing something violent. It’s simply a selfish lack of awareness for some sort of perverse kudos and attention. This woman says that some people are scared of dogs, she fails to understand that certain dogs scare ALL people. As I say, I have been brought up around all sorts of dogs and would say that I am not scared of many, but if one of these dogs walking up to me unmuzzled I would be a concerned; how do I know if it’s trained or not? What I do know is that the likelihood of a positive outcome diminishes when one of these dogs is involved.
I agree with you. Another factor is when an owner loses interest in training and throws him in the back yard. Then they get another one to keep that one company. Then one day down the road they get lose or some kid hops the fence to get their ball and disaster strikes. The two dogs are more bonded to each other than their humans and develop that pack mentally and are even more dangerous. Social media is full of pictures of dogs cuddled up next to a baby with a banner declaring how gentle the breed is. I say how irresponsible it is to do that.
Goys you know nothing about dogs stop talikg shite!!!
At last, a sensible person! Agree completely and I've got three dogs 🐕
So do most humans 🤷🏼♂️
Sol do humans like the guy above said, should someone whos a bigger man get a harsher sentence than a smaller man if they commit a violent offence? just cos the bigger man is potentially able to do more damage? lol no doesnt work like that
There are already rules in place that the dog owner has a responsibility to keep other people, pet or animals safe from their dog.
Yet we still have people who will goad their dogs to attack a cat.
I once saw a guy that was throwing his staffy in the lake, and commanding it to attack the swans and ducks.
A good owner who knows that their dog can be a danger to other people or animals, will do all they can to protect others and other animals.
I got my exemption no problem
Breeding boom made the dog cheep and easy for a certain group of people to buy ,once 5 k and after lockdown 500 quid …also bad breeding at 6 or 12 months ,pups giving birth to pups ,inbreeding
Im tired of the excuses. We do not want giant pitbulls in our community. XL Bully's are at least 50% pitbull. They have zero place in our society whatsoever.
Anyone who knows dogs can spot one a mile off.
Shall we all now own Lions and then we can say that our Lion is great with kids and would never turn on any one.
Precisely.
By that logic we should ban rotties, staffies, mastiffs, and German shepherds too.
rather own a lion, at least you'll know when its aggressive
If you are on benefits and social housing.... YOU SHOULD BE BANNED FROM OWNING ANY DOG..... The government give you benefits to feed you and your kids, that money comes from us tax payers.... with the only exception being guide dogs, i bet most XL owners live in social housing or on benefits.....
They'll be on ESA and PIP too, and like having a drink and a smoke and buying lotto tickets, and having affairs with older married women who work in Asda or Tescos.
You do NOT need a big dog to go hiking with!! In fact the opposite. If something happens to the dog it’s too big to carry out.
You can say the same for a person
And if anything happens to you the dog could pull you to safety 😂
But if u think like this u wouldn't do anything in life
So true, in fact there is no need for these things to be in society at all ... But these people don't have any type of rational thinking ...
@@jameslawrence8037 why? I have four dogs. I hike all over the place. None of my dogs are over 60lb.
Ex racing greyhounds are predominantly muzzled when out in public because some of them have strong prey drive and can see other small dogs as prey. These dogs are muzzle-trained from very early days and it does not, in any respect, hinder their quality of life. Equally, the majority of ex racing greyhounds are not allowed off lead in public areas - purely because they are so fast and if they see something to chase you won't catch them. So people do the sensible thing and hire enclosed, safe fields for their dogs to blow off steam in on a weekly basis. I don't see that this is such a big deal for responsible XL bully owners to comply with.
Muzzle training can be a good thing for any dog breed though which is what I don't get.
All of mine are muzzle trained incase of an emergency. Say if they get a serious injury and are in so much pain as to risk biting someone or me, pop a muzzle on your safe and so is the vet the dog isn't going to freak out and injure itself more.
Ive seen dogs who going to the groomer get aggressive and snap at the groomer muzzle goes on freaking out more because they have never had one on yet your dog also bites at the groomer.
Muzzles are literally a good aid to have and it isn't always used to stop aggressive behaviour.
My Lurchers and Longdog wear one for lure coursing only to stop them grabbing the lure. My Collie is muzzle trained incase of emergencies were he needs one and every dog I have ever had has been muzzle trained for that reason.
Honestly every dog should be muzzle trained in my opinion no matter what it's common sense for any thing that pops up.
A dog walker saved a xl bully that was gonna be put down, well the xl bully killed her within a month of being adopted by her. I guess she wasn't a responsible dog owner or she didn't know enough about them eh?
Graham, I’m shocked at some of the things that you’ve said in this video, one of them is that you mentioned JR’s and about them doing a lot of damage, in comparison to bully breeds they don’t do much damage and, what’s more, they are not killing people and dogs left right and centre!! They have killed TWO newborn babies in the time since records began, pit bulls, pit types and pit mixes have killed FIFTY people since records began and TWENTY FOUR people have been killed by ALL other breeds combined (including the 2 JR’s) since records began !! THAT i would say speaks VOLUMES
I see alot of people throwing around it's not the dog it's always the owner, it's how you raise them it's not the breeding.
Yes alot of it is to do with breeding I see people claiming to be breeders of certain breeds yet not one mention of if you breed two dogs with aggressive tendencys your going to get aggressive puppies no matter what.
Reputable breeders breed for sound temprements meaning sound puppies and TO STANDARD if your reputable breeders.
Alot of these dogs are churned out just for fast cash meaning that the breeders don't care about temprements or standards it's all about making from people.
I use to breed GSD's and can tell you for a fact that if I bred two dogs with iffy temprements I can sure as heck say that those puppies wouldn't be of sound mind.
It doesn't matter how much training you put in to a dog if it has poor breeding its going to be dangerous no matter what.
Here's the thing. Accidents happen. Dogs can dart out the front door, escape from the backyard, snap out of its halter or leash. Some dogs like some dogs, but dislike others. Some dogs like all people, but some dogs don't. I don't want to be walking my pomeranian with a pitbull straining on his leash on the other side of the street. Sorry.
@@michaelalderman7896 Great. That's you. I can't tell you how many times the dog I owned at the time was chased down the street by German Shepherds, primarily. And ONLY ONCE did the owners apologize. Only ONCE.
Fascinating that no mention by the supposed "dog lovers" on this program was made regarding the too numerous to count dog/animal victims of bully type dogs doing precisely what they insanely created to do.
No worries princess you will be pleased to hear I got rid of my xl bully! Now we are looking for 2 new beautiful Rottweiler to train to scare wet flannels on the streets
@@marktsvetanov6038 From what I've seen IRL and on the internet, when an bully breed goes out of control, even their owners aren't able to stop an attack, they are relentless. Yet I've seen attacking Rotties stop as soon as they get a command from their owners. Thats the problem. I would be less nervous of your two Rotties if I came across them off leash in the park, then I would of one bully. Its a shame, because I know how loving and cuddly bullys can be to their owners and friends, and its not their fault that that lock-on, tenacious, totally focused aggression was breed into them..
Billy is still a baby. They are all friendly as puppies... good luck with that.
Completely agree with Sophie and Graeme
There should be a licence system
responsible dog owners should teach basic commands such as how to correctly walk a dog and control them so they dont pull, sit, stay. Look. Close, down, off. Been able to recall your dog at any given time (the only dogs I have seen do this are responsible owners who have seen qualified dog trainers)
Advanced training You could have dogs that are nervous/reactivity etc
Different training for different size dogs
Many factors. Dogs personalitys are different and a dog owner will never get the same dog twice!
Sadly though a good idea, that would be almost impossible to enforce.. and the police have far too much other stuff to do…it would possibly in fact end up with wrongly enforced destruction of perfectly behaved dogs…through bad and \ or biased policing .
@elizabethstockdale2784 agree that's why everything needs amending, and changing the DDA as it doesnt work, if you had to pay for a dog licence there are approx 13million dogs in the uk. If only half of the UK say 6.5mill paid for a dog licence at say £35 per dog per year, potentially the government would have over 227million every year and rising for a standalone department to police just dogs. Help get the back street breeders off the streets. And the irresponsible owners. That way the government are actually protecting the Citizens, because its only the responsible and good owners been affected, proven on news today back street breeders have already moved on to another breed ☹️😡🤬
All powerful dogs should require a license, training, and insurance. Make this training compulsory before purchasing, and it will weed out the majority of bad owners. This would likely be better than banning to reduce dog attacks, animal neglect, and future rehoming. For a nation of animal lovers, we are pretty quick to condemn thousands of innocent animals to desth. Additionally whats to be done about future litters of bully mixes? Accidents will no doubt happen, and when they do it takes til 2yrs old for the dogs get over size.....Do the govt really expect their owners to just hand over their beloved family pets for destruction?!? This is not well thought thro, and is less about fixing the problem and more about Rishi being seen to be doing something decisive for once.....
She says the vast majority that might be the case but it does not then deal with the minority that have killed / mauled people.even so called responsible owners dogs have attacked members of there own family and have killed/mauled them.
Yep this is what I said. Alot of the dogs come from backyard breeders who literally don't care about the dogs they pump out.
Poorly bred with poor temperaments often aggressive is what are being produced. Puppies don't show it till there mature and people don't ask to see the parents alot of the time so they don't see the aggression.
Its funny people complain about reputable breeders ( I complain when it comes to brachiphilic dogs) yet the issue is backyard breeders who charge just as much as a reputable breed for mutts
Save our bullies? What about save our children?
I appreciate Sunak's new law on XL Bullies.
That's how much you know
me too
@@bonysminiatures3123 how would you like to be put on death row because the way you look like. You can't tar all dogs the same like you can't with any livin being. Have a heart.
Police can’t be relied upon. They don’t even know their arses from their elbows.
So who do you ring if a crime is committed against you……..the police
Laws are pointless if the police can't or won't inforce them.
Normal dogs do not attack when a human screams and runs. Why are we making excuses for these monsters???
Then you know nothing about dogs its in their instincts to chase after things that make a high pitch noise eg a scream and run thats any dogs jack russles all the way too cane corsos
@@ryanrigby27 let's just tip toe around them then in case it triggers them
I glad the presenter mensioned seeing videos of people training their xl bullies to be aggressive, cause that's exactly what it is. Some people train them to be aggressive, to go after cats, etc.
My xl made sure he respected cat, foxs, all animals they would encounter. Now we've adopted two kitens and one 15 year old female cat. My xl gets along great with all of them and is gentle. It's the 15 year old cat that hates the xl and hate the kitens....
Its the owner that creates unstable dogs
It's not always the owner though.
You probably got yours from someone who cared about the temprements of the dogs and not just churned them out for a quick buck.
Many of these dogs are poorly bred and in the wrong hands no reputable breeder is going to be producing animals with poor temprements that's on those who don't care.
I know someone who had one had the dog five years never abused it, had it fully trained as they were in the same training classes and dog display team as me.
The dog just one day attacked and killed another dog she owned no provocation or anything just attacked.
She got the dog at 16 weeks from her nephew who couldn't look after it when he started work she asked were he got it and he said he got it from a friend who had the parents two dogs who hadn't been done and shouldn't have been bred.
Its funny hearing how it's all down to the owner yet I've seen first hand it's not always on the owner and I've seen many stories similar to this one as well.
Sorry but owners are to blame if u have a dog trained correctly any big dog can be dangerous it's a stupid law is ridiculous and the government have blood on there hands!!! Bring back the dog licence!
Handguns were strictly controlled in the UK yet after one incident caused by police corruption they were banned. Since then, armed crime has increased dramatically.
3months later they're still being sold on-line. Everyone contact the police and demand action. The police have to visit every single breeder and advertiser.
Seen plenty of bully dogs loose their temper and the owner fights to control them, thats a big dog that would be hard for anyone to control let alone a smaller person that is not very strong.
Nothing to do with the owner. The dogs have been bred to kill and that’s what they like doing. Two dog trainers/walkers with a lot of experience of dogs have been killed by them. Sophie Coulton is kidding herself: she is no safer from an attack by her dog than anyone else is.
They are such ugly dogs
Nothing to do with the owner are you serious!!! Most of them are softer than a brush. It's people who are responsible and it's people who kill more than any animal. People like you need to look at the science not the government and people who as never owned one. Punishment on good owners and letting the idiots getting away with it not to mention killing innocent dogs who have no decent home . Your kidding your self!!!
@@michaelalderman7896 firstly, Natasha Johnson was in her twenties and very experienced with dogs. Secondly, all bull breeds were bred for fighting, not to be companions. XL Bullies make up 1% of the canine population but are responsible for 44% of the attacks and maulings in this country.
Retarded comment
You wont get many dogs larger than an XL bully though, its 50-60kg of muscle unlike say a St Bernard which isn't all muscle. They are also bred to kill, there that too.
Puppies are still being sold on pet websites, even now, today. Vets are refusing to put healthy dogs down.
What about increasing and improving dog facilities for training? Many parks are filled with family and children. If we have designated dog parks, this can help our dogs exercise and train on a daily basis.
I'm sorry , there to many incidents with xl bully dog!
Chav breed!
not at all - your talking complete garbage, jerks like you are what is the problem in todays society - discrimination at its best
Yeah and now woke leftie breed as well
bringing in new dog laws does literally nothing to stop the problem if those rules are not enforced.
At present there are no ongoing checks ATALL to ensure that people who own dogs on the current dangerous dogs list are following the rules.. so adding more breeds to the list of dogs that need specific handling or safety measures achieves literally nothing if nobody is checking to ensure that all of the owners are actually doing it.
There is a little old lady near me whos collie dog has bitten multiple people and animals while walking off lead at the local childrens park.. and the police and dog wardens do literally nothing about it even though shes been reported several times, has been clearly identified, and many of the attacks were recorded on video...
so even if dogs required a licence, it would do nothing to prevent dog attacks like this if when those dogs do blatantly attack people the owners dont even get punished.
I do find that dog owners are like car drivers , everyone thinks they’re the best and everyone else is the issue!
American Bullies never had a bad reputation until quite recently i would look into what happened in UK on the breeding
Exactly
My daughter has a pure xl and he is the calmest dog you can imagine. He goes to doggy day care most days and is socialized with other dogs and people. Xls became a status dog because of how much they cost, pure bred imports from America £15000. To get round this they were cross bred to get the look of a bully but not the temperament.
@@paulentwistle1204I can't wrap my head around why you would own a strong powerful dog that has the capability to kill a grown man with relative ease due to its biteforce at best you'll end up severely disfigured for the rest of your life how stupid must someone be not worth it at all , its child neglect to have this kind of dog roaming around free in your house around your kid wether you know it or not you are playing russian roulette with the lives of everyone whose around your dog especially your kid , owning an xl bully or any dog that inflicts alot of damage and can kill you in a short space of time is just dumb its the equivalent of owning a chimp , training or not its not worth it even well trained dogs people have owned for years have attacked , if your daughter one day told you she's dating someone who went to prison for murder you'd be scared for her life and you'd advise her for her safety not to date him wouldn't you even if he was rehabilitated and appeared normal would you still feel uncomfortable with your daughter dating or even being around someone who has done that to someone you wouldn't would you because your a good smart parent who cares for their kids right , then why own an xl bully why trust a dog that is capable of such damage and putting you , your daughter or anyone else's lives in potential danger , you know there are hundreds of stories of dogs especially pitbulls ( who are just smaller xl bullies ) in the US that attacked and mauled their owners , children and other people's pets for absolutely no reason , dogs they have owned , trained and cared for since birth suddenly betray them and leave them in a pool of their own blood , playing around with their guts in their mouth like a chew toy , this future scenario is entirely possible for an xl bully owner , get a dog with less risk factor be smart use your brain and do the right thing , if your dog is to attack your daughter ( and it would most likely kill her ) you would feel guilty and forever tormented , you'd be thinking to yourself it should have been you and I agree if you own a dog like that and it does attack it should attack the owner no one else should face the consequences and bite the bullet for someone else's idiotic decisions , good luck and get rid of the dog
@BruceWayne-sz3th just like any large dog could, or a Jack Russel could do to a small child.
@BruceWayne-sz3thStop being a sheep!!
Chavies dog.
I want to know from the owners if they can train their dogs instinct to attack
- I get scared easily if a dog comes running to me. My scared reaction arouses their instincts to charge and attack me - no amount of training by the dog owners can change that a dog isn’t a car which only requires the owners to drive properly. A dog is a living being with a mind of its own. What should a scared person like me do when a huge bully dog charges towards me while I’m going about my day? You might be a good dog owner but I’m a bad pedestrian as I am scared easily by a dog running towards me - and the dog is good till it encounters a scared pedestrian!
keep special treats ready in your pocket. ask owner if you can give the dog a treat. If you are scared, hand it to the owner. Tell the dog what a good dog they are. Since the owners aren't socializing their dogs, it would be great if others like you can let these dogs know that most humans are friendly.
I think it depends what area you live in as well. Interesting how they pick a sweet looking lady, the presenters, her and the TV dog expert, probably do not live on a council estate like myself. I love dogs, I own three, I love my community BUT bully dogs round here are a real problem. It is sad to say, young men who can barely restrain the dogs, they don't get enough exercise as most of them are living in flats. Easy to say don't judge them on what they look like, if you live in a twee part of the country, where financial, and lack of adequate housing etc is having a direct effect on working class people and as a by product causing a lot of aggression in the ' bully dog owners' let alone the lunging dog at the end of the lead.
Not long to go folks get your phone's ready if you see any not muzzled report report report report
Discrimination based on looks!
Is that acceptable rishi sunak?
Typical government rather punish innocent dogs and responsible owners. And the people who support this horrible law are just as bad. These poor dogs are abused by horrible people to make them that way. This so called government should be doing something to sort that out.
Did you stick your fingers in your ears and go, la, la, la, ,... ?
Just saying what I think of this useless government
@@martynridley3671 just saying what I think of this useless government
@@MichealDayI agree that they're useless too, but the topic here is dogs and there's dialogue to go with it which doesn't say what you said.
They should be banned but the owners of the existing bully’s should be allowed to keep them as long as they’re muzzled and on a lead while out in public. In fact all of these cross bred large dogs should be banned.
Dog ban doesn't work
I owned a pitt bull for 12 years banned since 90s is laughable
I do not have an Xl bully BUT I have a large breed dog (Mastiff x Rottweiler) and had Dobermans in the past, who are fantastic family dogs yet used to be called devil dogs. When I decided to have my first dog I went to dog training classes and it has given me the knowledge needed for my dogs since then.
The problem is the owners, Willow is allowed off lead on walks, obviously not near roads. And if I see another dog on a lead she is put on her lead. Not to protect them but her.
When someone passes by she is told to stand and wait. Then she is given permission to move on, I have people of all ages asking if they can say hello and she loves it.
I have had many dogs go to attack her , often small supposedly family friendly dogs. Luckily my dog has NEVER EVER retaliated because she is well trained.
If you have any dog , I don’t care if it’s a chihuahua or an XL Bully all dogs need training, given boundaries and manners not babying. All training with love and kindness.
You can’t label a whole breed as bad because of the owners who can’t be bothered to put the work in with a puppy and reinforce it throughout the dogs happy existence.
The government need to get a grip instead of using sledgehammer to crack a walnut !
We have a generation of teenagers who have no respect and are downright abusive and violent. Look at knife crime and attacks on their peers and older adults in the UK . Are the government going to put a ban on those breeding, maybe add permanent tags to them .
Stop the idiots who buy dogs without any intention of training their dogs.
I totally agree, well said. Shame more people don't think that way. Happy new year
@@MichealDay Thank you. And I wish you a Happy New Year
lol have you done any research on the breed and the amount of attacks that happen by them? It’s ridiculous. We label the breed because they need to be labeled. They are naturally aggressive and need to be banned. “ItS nOt tHe dOg, ItS ThE OwNeR”. No it is the dog breed lol. Statistics prove it. In 2019 it was reported that pit bulls are responsible for 91% of attacks on other animals. 91 percent lol. Are you kidding me? Again it’s def the breed.
My neighbour had 2 bully dogs , both broke through my fences and roamed around my garden. She gave the 1st away, then the second couldn’t cope with them
Descendants of the pitbull that was banned
They’ve got about a drop of pitbull blood in them there more mastiff then anything else
People need to undergo basic dog owners training to qualify to get a dog licence before they are allowed to own any dog breed.
I was bitten only once by a dog in my entire life so far. It was an English Cocker Spaniel.
I was cycling. The dog was on a leash being held by an old lady. The dog stood across the bike path, so I had to stop. As soon as I put my foot on the ground it bit me on my thigh. No barking, no display of aggression. Just lunget straight at me and bit me. 🤷♂️
Thing is the people who shouldnt have dogs but still get them are the same people who would get the dog and not the license .there is no way of inforcing it .its the breeding what needs to stop
@@Lolodewednesday - Well, police could stop people walking dogs and ask to see the dog licence.
If an incident involving a dog happens, and police or local authorities are called and they find out that the dog owner does not have a dig licence then the dog/dogs are taken away no questions asked and the dog owner penalised.
Bottom line, having that licence requirement would be one extra layer of protection for the community.
And it will make life a lot easier for dog owners as they would learn basic knowledge about how to handle a dog.
Just watch videos of dog trainers such as Cesar Millan here on TH-cam and you can see how incredibly ignorant most people are when dealing with their own pet dog. And this causes major problems for the dog owners. And only after having problems they call professional dog trainers for help.
A dog licence training will give dog owners the tools to properly treat their dog and fully enjoy having a dog, without having dog drama occurring in the first place. 🤷♂️ 🐕 🐕🦺
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax ceaser millan isnt a dog trainer he is a dog behaviourist big difference
@@Lolodewednesday he also isn't a dog behaviourist his methods are old and outdated and been shut down as harmful by vets and actual behaviorists.
His Alpha theory is an old outdated method actually debunked by the guy who originally wrote it.
@@ToxicVaccines_HivHoax and police would be to busy policing this to be able to do their actual job.
Anything that is brought in would not be able to be carried out because there is far too many dogs who will be with out licensing.
Its one of the reasons it was scrapped in the first place.
A smart travel man said to me once everyone says their dog doesn't bite
Dog licences will sort it no different to having a gun license do the same procedure. SIMPLE.
normal dogs don't attack everything and everyone like that.Some dogs can be agressive but it's because of breeding,training,their past etc.
They'll be buying Lions and Tigers next.
Then those irresponsible owners that get that bigger breed will end up getting them banned too .
So what you’re basically saying is we should allow these dogs that can snap in an instant and kill someone? What a crap excuse.
I’ve been thinking about adopting a Tyrannosaurus Rex 🦖 after my Bully has been destroyed….
Biggest dog was English mastiff 19 stone
Has the c19 jab made a lot of people hate more. So much negativity and hate on a breed of dog. Shouldn't have to explain why you chose a particular breed of dog. I would do anything to protect my bully that's why he's exempt. Insured. Muzzle trained. All I see when I'm out walking both my dogs is people with dogs letting them do whatever they want whilst they drink their Costa coffees. Please take a step back and think of all owners with dogs not just yours. My bully has been attacked for no reason by smaller dogs usually spaniel type dogs. Maybe all dogs need to wear a muzzle.
Yes! Not long after sheeple ran to get the kuckoo flu juice,I started noticing severe behavior changes in many people I know, work with, and neighbors I have known and interacted with,for decades. You know after so many years of knowing people, you know their personality, quirks, likes and dislikes, etc- So I saw serious and strange changes, not all of them, but most of them. Just not acting right at all, some the opposite of how they were, some are now downright violent, or always crying.Too much to discuss here, but the answer is yes. Just look around at general changes that happened after the jab, all around the world, compared to how people acted before. (Telegram app doesn't censor. I get a lot of info there)
In the 1970's people got into the trend of having monkeys and gorillas. And they were lovely and they were kind and they could do sign language and then they started biting people's faces off and breaking their bones by hitting them and... Bullies eat babies. That's it. Ban them.
I was attacked by a poodle don’t see them getting banned so we ban rishi
Most of these people who want these type dogs do it as a show of power for them and the dog. Lot of this comes from street gangster culture and it goes perfect with gangster rappers.
Holding people accountable for there dogs not just big dogs all dogs . People are the problem not the dogs
Its not the dogs that are the problem its the majority of the owners who quite literary couldn't take care of a cat
No it definitely is the dogs that are the problem.
I’ve had large dogs and small dogs and my experience is the smaller ones are more aggressive more unpredictable
They can't do anything like as much damage though. People are even more lax about training small dogs, even though the smaller breeds can be highly tenacious. But ultimately, there's enough size differential between me and a Yorkie that I can get it off me. One of these mutants? No chance.
@randomhumanoidblob4506 yeah that is correct but a small dog if attacked a baby would likely kill said child. As you said the problem is the owner's not caring to train the dog properly
@fishkeeper3799 no because that don't make for headlines like a pitbull or xl bully's does. Just Google how many dog attacks happen in the UK every year and what dogs are involved
Xl bullies have about 5 different breeds in them one being the apbt you should never cross the apbt there’s no need there the ultimate dog and thats the problem scattered bred mutts that are unstable I’ve owned American pitbull terriers for over 30yrs never had one problem with human aggression not one
You have to take a generalised view of the issues regarding the dogs on the UK banned list. 30 years is a lot of experience with a high drive breed. However, I’ll bet you’re a no nonsense owner and a good leader to your dogs. Sadly this isn’t the case across the board with many owners of XL’s and other game dogs being incredibly weak as owners!
My sons xl bully is softer than grease. He's a soft, well brought up dog and I love him to bits.
Until he turns on you
Banned dog breed’s what about terrorists and drug dealers
The person wanting a dog should be vetted…allowing meat heads any dog to abuse is wrong…vet the people who have dogs..I’ve grown up with all breeds of dogs..sat with them in their kennels…no bad dogs..bad owners..
All lock jaws should be BANNED
There is no such thing as a lock jaw .
@@Rena-ol7dn thats right no such thing in lock jaw. It's good to know someone knows what their talking about
Xl bullys are not a breed of dog it's a type of dog 🙄
The only bad experiences that I’ve had is with pit bull types/Staffie looking dogs, and I’ve had dogs for over 35 years
Theres no such thing as a pitbull type its either a pitbull or not
Ban them simple as that and I for one cannot wait.
@@GAMEDOG420let's split hairs shall we, you are missing the point.
@@maewest4098 the point is dont blame a pitbull wen its not a pitbull
@@GAMEDOG420 I'm afraid I've had bad experiences with ' Pitbull types' leading to vet bills. I didn't have time to ask for a DNA test, an apology from the dog owner would have been nice
At last a man who knows what he's talking about when judging dog breeds ...I'm over the moon ...and I loved his rapid response when that dimwit mentioned Jack russels...QUALITY beautiful dog loving owner and common sense for once 😂 hats off
Its bollocks and unfair.
Like initiating a knife ban that affects all legitimate users when legislation is already in place to deal with those who used such devices as weapons, with minimal penalties.
My Bichón fríse is not aggressive by nature. He doesn't even tell other dogs off because it is not in his genetics. Furthermore he is not of a size that could kill an adult child or a baby.
There’s no such thing as bad dogs just bad owners
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Lies. Some people are just plain evil, and the same is true of dogs.
I'm sure if Nicole Morey was still alive, she would have chosen differently. With these breeds it's just a matter of time... Why risk it?
Yall gotta remember these dogs only got popularity in pandemic times, the APBT was banned sadly so people looked at other options, my opinion is no breed should be banned, why on earth was the Japanese Tosa banned tho 😂, so ridiculous, I'm betting there was barely 20 in the country but they somehow got banned
The Tosa is banned or restricted in a lot of countries. It's another breed that was initially breed purely for fighting and all the traits that would make them good at that are hardwired into them. So despite there being very few of them in the UK at the time they were banned, I can see the logic of it. Nip the problem in the bud before it becomes a problem. If you ban one type of "fighting" dog, the people that want the dogs for nefarious purposes will seek out another and the once rare Tosa, suddenly becomes more and more common.
He said stay calm don't run... Hah!!
Get something between you and it.. Cry out for help shout NO in the loudest, lowest voice you can muster, keep behind A bike a wall, a fence, a lamppost a gate a post box, another person! "a gate, a door, a car., a tree. And /Or Then if able get higher up than the dog they ain't great at climbing, on a car,, getting ready to keep kicking it back down, wall, up a tree etc good luck... Try not to stand there terrified like a complete ninny hoping it's owner shows like this bloke recommended... Poppycock... BS
All big dogs over a certain weight are dangerous you should have to pay a very expensive licence to own one also the owners should have them trained professionally
What happened to the guy by the train? He was attacked then disappeared! Under the train? 😲
dont give them ideas. they will ban trains next.
The people who do bad things with the dogs will just get a different dog. It's absolutely horrible to ban a breed like this it's incredibly ignorant and narrow minded.
People can turn, why cant these dogs? ? Not for me, one day lady pet owner you are brave. No they are ugly !! Scary things
Surprise surprise, a dog called an "XL Bully" is considered dangerous