Thanks for your talk, Matt! Your comments on extinct species are enlightening. I recall a talk by the great scholar, Rosanna Rosanna Dana, on a SNL panel many years ago wherein she too expressed her concerns about "extinct feces" as well. Have you looked into her work? Her too early death was a great loss to American letters.
There were two conferences, the main one in August, which was live, and a virtual conference only on Book of Mormon issues, which this is from. It was a live-streamed event that is now being put online in separate videos. They're being published every other week, alternating with the presentations from the main conference.
Considering the Mayan Nephite connection the Book of Mormon describes the civilization as being so numerous, which is not the common understanding, however with LiDAR it's the new understanding that there were a lot more people in MesoAmerican than originally thought, which Joseph Smith could have never known
Interesting discussion. While I am more inclined towards the Heartland model, I thought he raised some interesting points about the preservation of artifacts, and the Israelite chariots were something I hadn’t considered. Such observations could also be helpful when looking at other modes for Book of Mormon evidence. I do wish he had shared more at the end, besides linguistic connections between BOM text and ancient Assyrian. I keep hearing stories about city names in Mesoamerica matching names in the BOM, but I haven’t heard them discussed by scholars. I’d like to know if those are only rumors or if there is some clues that point us to Mesoamerica.
Complete waste? I found it fascinating. Go ahead and apply all of his principles to the heartland model and see how well they add up. You may be surprised at what you’ll find.
Zachary Clark, someone else called it a complete waste of time because it didn’t reference the heartland model at all, sorry, my response was not intended at your comment.
The river Sidon flows North according to the text. The Mississippi flows south. Population numbers in the heartland never approach the levels in the text. The distances in the text are much smaller than half the current United States as proposed by that model. There were no volcanoes and earthquakes occurring in and around the upstate New York area at the time of Christ's crucifixion. The weather patterns in the text note a rainy season and a dry season, not the 4 season weather pattern of the proposed heartland theory. Since those don't match the text, why speak of those or other incidental matches? Plus he is speaking more of the limits of what may and not be found with environmental degradation over time in the Old and New Worlds in relation to things like swords and chariots rather than any particular theory. Specific theories were not part of this talk.
Thanks for your talk, Matt! Your comments on extinct species are enlightening. I recall a talk by the great scholar, Rosanna Rosanna Dana, on a SNL panel many years ago wherein she too expressed her concerns about "extinct feces" as well. Have you looked into her work? Her too early death was a great loss to American letters.
Great job, Matt! I always enjoy listening to your talks, and I always learn something new from them.
Sorensen dealt with many of these issues back in the 80s.
edit: Ok, he ends up mentioning Sorensen.
Was the conference not a live event this year?
There was an online component.
There were two conferences, the main one in August, which was live, and a virtual conference only on Book of Mormon issues, which this is from. It was a live-streamed event that is now being put online in separate videos. They're being published every other week, alternating with the presentations from the main conference.
Considering the Mayan Nephite connection the Book of Mormon describes the civilization as being so numerous, which is not the common understanding, however with LiDAR it's the new understanding that there were a lot more people in MesoAmerican than originally thought, which Joseph Smith could have never known
Interesting discussion. While I am more inclined towards the Heartland model, I thought he raised some interesting points about the preservation of artifacts, and the Israelite chariots were something I hadn’t considered. Such observations could also be helpful when looking at other modes for Book of Mormon evidence.
I do wish he had shared more at the end, besides linguistic connections between BOM text and ancient Assyrian. I keep hearing stories about city names in Mesoamerica matching names in the BOM, but I haven’t heard them discussed by scholars. I’d like to know if those are only rumors or if there is some clues that point us to Mesoamerica.
Complete waste? I found it fascinating. Go ahead and apply all of his principles to the heartland model and see how well they add up. You may be surprised at what you’ll find.
@@keithholgreen7294 Were you referring to something I said? I agree with you, but if I'm not mistaken I think your comment was meant for someone else.
Zachary Clark, someone else called it a complete waste of time because it didn’t reference the heartland model at all, sorry, my response was not intended at your comment.
@@keithholgreen7294 No worries. I thought that might be the case. I saw that comment, too.
This talk is a complete waste of time and I am completely annoyed that he refuses to look at all of the evidence of the Hopewell per Wayne May
The river Sidon flows North according to the text. The Mississippi flows south. Population numbers in the heartland never approach the levels in the text. The distances in the text are much smaller than half the current United States as proposed by that model. There were no volcanoes and earthquakes occurring in and around the upstate New York area at the time of Christ's crucifixion. The weather patterns in the text note a rainy season and a dry season, not the 4 season weather pattern of the proposed heartland theory. Since those don't match the text, why speak of those or other incidental matches?
Plus he is speaking more of the limits of what may and not be found with environmental degradation over time in the Old and New Worlds in relation to things like swords and chariots rather than any particular theory.
Specific theories were not part of this talk.
Bad comment.